Odds & Ends: Dodgers, Upton, Damon, White Sox

Sunday night linkage..

  • Confidential documents in the McCourts' divorce hearing reveal that the Dodgers may seek to spend on players at level pace while doubling ticket prices and revenue through 2018, writes Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times.  This is bad news for Dodgers fans as the uncertain financial status of the club has limited their activity this winter.
  • The Indians are keeping mum on their feelings about Edward Salcedo's reportedly impending deal with the Braves, writes Paul Hoynes of The Plain Dealer.  Salcedo, according to a Dominican paper, was signed by the Tribe in 2007.  The club denied this and word that the prospect lied about his age followed.
  • Todd Wellemeyer is fighting for a spot with the Giants in Spring Training, writes Andrew Baggarly of the Mercury News.  Wellemeyer had a disappointing 2009 for the Cardinals, posting a 5.89 ERA with 5.7 K/9 and 4.2 BB/9.
  • Even though the D-Backs find themselves with two starting-caliber catchers in Miguel Montero and Chris Snyder, GM Josh Byrnes won't try to trade the latter, writes Gilbert.  Snyder was nearly dealt for Lyle Overbay in November before the Blue Jays got cold feet.
  • Justin Upton has had discussions with the Diamondbacks regarding a contract extension, writes Steve Gilbert of MLB.com.  The 22-year-old is under contractual control for four more years.
  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports writes that some Scott Boras detractors believe he sacrificed Johnny Damon for Matt Holliday.  Some rival agents and club executives assert that the super-agent declined to negotiate with the Yankees regarding Damon early on, allowing the possibility that they could pursue Holliday.  Boras scoffed at the notion when asked about it by Rosenthal.
  • Jake Peavy would have liked to see Damon join the White Sox, writes Scott Merkin of MLB.com.


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61 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Dodgers, Upton, Damon, White Sox"


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dtownwarrior
5 years 4 months ago

The fact that an extremely talented pitcher like Peavy is now looking at Detroit as a different club with him makes me wonder what young and inexperienced pitchers now feel about the heart of the Tiger lineup? There is inexperience in the order (Sizemore, AJax) but there is also PLENTY of protection for Cabrera who has been extremely devoted to turning his life AND skills on the diamond around this year. He now will have Andres Gallaraga as a mentor and I can think of nothing better than someone like the Big Cat (Oddly enough, the BIG CAT!!) showing a still very young Cabrera the right way to go about life. With Damon, Ordonez, Guillen and others on base in front of him all year, I see a possible MVP season in store for Miggy and that just may be enough with a very strong pitching staff to bring Detroit the AL Central title!! Thoughts?

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

I think the White Sox and Twins are still both better teams but I agree with a lot of the things you said. I’m not sure how much better Cabrera can be (He had a really good 2009 season).

Jackson could really be the catylyst for the Tigers but it all depends on how he performs in the leadoff spot. If he doesn’t get on base, Cabrera and Damon have nothing to drive in.

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Detroitchik
5 years 4 months ago

Actually it will be Damon who we’ll be counting on to get on base, so the power that comes up behind him has something to drive in…

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rlegear
5 years 4 months ago

Cabrera can improve by not getting drunk as a skunk with the White Sox players and then go 0-4 when you are fighting for the Division Championship.

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Ricky Bones
5 years 4 months ago

Don’t forget beating the hell out of his wife.

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Detroitchik
5 years 4 months ago

I LOVE the idea if us getting the AL Central title. Why stop there, our pitching is good enough to take us further than that, imo.

And if biggy keeps his head together, there is no reason he cannot win the AL MVP.

Great attitude!

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Ricky Bones
5 years 4 months ago

Have you seen the Tigers pitching staff lately?

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alphabet_soup5
5 years 4 months ago

1. Verlander
2. Scherzer
3. Porcello
4. Bonderman
5. Galarraga/Robertson/Willis

Top 3 is what makes the rotation. If Bonderman and whoever wins the 5th starter spot return to form, it’s unstoppable.

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Detroitchik
5 years 4 months ago

Yeah, the question is have you? Our bull pen is predominantly lefties, and decent ones. And our first three starters, well… JV led the league in strike outs last year, and Rick he’s damn good too Scherzer he has it made the first couple times around because no one in the AL is familiar with his style yet, he’s got the advantage… I am telling you our pitching is outstanding, sorry Ricky … POP. there goes your bubble.

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Ricky Bones
5 years 4 months ago

Scherzer was a decent pitcher for a bad Diamondbacks team. He’s entirely unproven in the American league & really doesn’t have much of a body of work for the National League either. He struggles to go 6 innings & breaching that mark is something of a rarity (14 of his 30 starts lasted less than 6 innings, 9 starts went exactly 6). That’s not a number two starter, not in the American League & not on a contending team. Porcello has the makings of a fine pitcher but let’s see him in his sophomore tour of duty before getting too excited.

Bonderman? Come on now. If you’re going to drink that Kool-Aid then good luck to you.

Having a lefty heavy rotation can be an alright thing but I’ve never heard a lefty-heavy bullpen classified as good thing. One or two is generally plenty barring them being a real stud & I’m not seeing any of that going down the list. Maybe Bobby Seay has some tricks up his sleeve. There’s not one name in that bullpen that causes me any pause except for Valverde. He’s a top closer but he’s only of value if a lead can be maintained for the previous 8 innings.

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Ricky Bones
5 years 4 months ago

Que?

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alphabet_soup5
5 years 4 months ago

I agree Cabrera is primed for an MVP season. Even if Ordonez has lost some of his power, he hit for a high average last year and will get on base this year. Hopefully Jackson can get on base so Cabrera can drive in Jackson, Damon, and Ordonez, while getting protection behind him from Carlos Guillen.

If Bonderman is healthy and performs like he did in 06 and Galaragga performs like 08, they would definitely win the division. Realistically not those both won’t happen, but this will be a close division.

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redsandyanksfan
5 years 4 months ago

does anybody know if damon was offered arbitration by the yanks? i dont think he was but im not sure

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CosaOne
5 years 4 months ago

He was not, the Yankees didnt offer anyone arb this season or the last.

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redsandyanksfan
5 years 4 months ago

i didnt think so but thanks for answering my question

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CosaOne
5 years 4 months ago

No prob

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

They really should have. Not only would he have accepted it but it was a win win because if he rejected it, they would have gotten the first round pick of which ever team signed him.

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CosaOne
5 years 4 months ago

Thats not really true, they had a specific amount that thought Damon was worth and were probably unwilling to risk having to pay the guy 10-12 million for one year. Especially since his counting stats were heavily influenced by his favorable home park.

Say he Accepted arb and was awarded 10-11 million that might have meant no Nick Johnson and Miranda at DH or some other lesser quality player.

Also if the Tigers signed him, Im not sure that the Yankees would have gotten the #1 pick from them since they also signed Valverde and im not sure which was ranked higher.

The Yankees offered him the best contract he received all offseason, he misread the market and rejected it. Cant really ask the club to do more then that.

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

Was Damon an A or a B type FA? Regardless it kinda reminds me of the Sox and Varitek. Boras had him decline arb despite he clearly would have made more accepting arb. For as good as he is, Boras always seems to be over confident.

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CosaOne
5 years 4 months ago

Damon was a type A. I agree that Varitek was also a huge misplay on his part. If I recall correctly was he asking for a Posada-like contract?

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Guest
5 years 4 months ago

Just to let you know I’m also replying to your comment up there as well.

Damon was asking for a Posada like contract.

You have some good points and I do think that Valverde was ranked higher so good job on that one. Also I agree with the fact that Damon would have gotten more money if had accepted the Yankees offer and Arbitration or not, Damon and Boras made some big mistakes.

I think that most People would rather have Damon than Johnson, but Damon can still play left field, not very well but he can still play. The most recent contract that the Yankees offered him was to play left field. So my point being, he could have played left with Miranda (who has plenty of Power) could have been the DH. Or a simple Damon DH with Grandy and Gardner in some combo of Left and Center Field.

If they had to go to Arbitration, you can almost expect that they would have gone to a hearing, which would have probably gone the Yankees way due to the fact that Damon wanted the Money he got 4 years ago and his range in Left is declining while he is getting older and is obviously 4 years older than he was when he signed that previous contract with Yankees prior to the 2006 season.

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 4 months ago

I think Boras mentioned that before the offseason began that year but nobody ever heard word one about what Tek himself wanted. Then again there were rumors about Boras setting a hard line for Strausberg at $50M.

Guest
5 years 4 months ago

I don’t think so. If they gave him arb, he could have accepted and got more than he would have on the open market. 3+ million dollars more, in fact. That probably is break-even with the added value of getting extra draft picks. In fact, they would have very likely been caught holding the bag.

Damon got 13 million last year and could only have had a 20% salary decrease, at maximum. But that forgets that Damon had a very good year last year. He actually earned his 13 million. So why would he have had any salary decrease in arbitration? He could have earned at minimum 11 million and would have probably earned closer to 13 million again. So I mean… is it worth it to overpay by 5 million just to net some draft picks? Generally, it’s not, unless you’re very positive about the options of that year’s draft.

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bjsguess
5 years 4 months ago

The 20% reduction rule DOES NOT apply to players who are outside the first 6 years of team control. The Yankees could have offered him league minimum if they wanted.

That said, Damon would have received at least $13m through arbitration. The fact is, players do not take paycuts in arb when they are coming off great years (which Damon was). The Yankees were smart in not offering arb.

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switchhitingjesus
5 years 4 months ago

Justin Upton has awesome written all over it.

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5 years 4 months ago

Scoffed? Wait, you mean Boras was a bumptious prat about something? Surely, you jest.