Odds & Ends: Green, Oswalt, Mets, Gaudin, Werth

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  1. bigpat 5 years ago

    Werth deserves a huge deal. He benefits from playing in a stacked lineup in a good hitter’s park, but he is still one of the best outfielders in the league. He can do it all and he should have some good years left since he got started late. He deserves more than Bay who just got a big contract because of name recognition and a desperate franchise.

    • souldrummer 5 years ago

      The flip side of this is that teams may see this as Jason Bay II, a deal where other clubs see how the Mets overpaid and how Werth, especially with comments like those above, may be more interested in earning his big payday than delivering once he gets on the other side of it.

      • kssj4 5 years ago

        You can’t fake the type of passion Werth shows for the game. Every player plays for the money. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to be media savvy. “Playing for the love of the game” is all well and good, but I don’t really see many players who are worth 10 mill going out and taking the league minimum. You play and get paid what the market says you are worth. We talk about players not speaking their mind, well we can’t judge those who do. Just because a player doesn’t say he is playing for the money doesn’t mean he isn’t and on the flip side just because a player does say he is playing for the money doesn’t mean he doesn’t love the game.

        • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 5 years ago

          I’d say Jason Werth is playing for the love of the game AND the money he’ll get paid. He had to overcome a lot to get where he is with extensive injury time outs. You don’t go through that if you’re not motivated to play the game-and reap all rewards.

          So yeah, I agree with you. I love Werth’s game, and I hope he can continue at this level for years to come.

    • Zack23 5 years ago

      Werth may ‘deserve’ more than Bay, doesn’t mean he’ll get it.
      All about the market, what are his demands, who else is out there, how many teams need a corner OF, how many of those teams can pay him 15-18m a year, etc.

      I predict he ends up in Detriot though, assuming they don’t let Magglio’s option vest. If they dont they have around 50m coming off the book.

      • johnsilver 5 years ago

        really hope the Tigers do not let ordonez get another charity contract like last year and get those AB’s, even if he does put up decent numbers. 18M for 2010 was more than enough to dole out for what he has done last year and whatever numbers he will do this year, giving him 15M next is FAR above what a defensive liability and a DH playing a corner OF spot that is 3 years past prime.

        If he wants to stay in Detroit, let him and Boras negotiate a fair contract after the season, something in the 3-5M range.

        Can see Werth hitting more than 80M only if somebody like Anaheim makes a quick sign on Crawford and takes him away from the NYY, then they will possibly offer the typical boatload of cash to get their man, who could hit the 40HR total with ease in NY. A perfect fit in NY, probably better than Crawford, but just have a feeling that Crawford is there man who would also fit in Anaheim perfectly also.

        • Zack23 5 years ago

          “then they will possibly offer the typical boatload of cash to get their man”
          Which is different than how other teams sign FAs?

          And Crawford’s agent would be foolish to have him sign quickly without going to the Yankees to get a counteroffer.

          • johnsilver 5 years ago

            It was not meant as an affront to the NYY to make a huge offer right off to Werth *IF* Crawford was to sigh was with someone else like Anahein, they have been know to do this before (ARod) and is a good tactic for a player who fits that stadium perfectly.

            Reason think that Anaheim might be inclined to another place (if feeling is mutual and a large offer is made fast) is think that Crawford may not like the huge spotlight playing in a media mega market like, say NY and even Boston would bring.. Just a hunch from being in Tampa and reading/watching him over his career. Could be wrong of course.

        • jwredsox 5 years ago

          how would werth hit 40 hrs in yankee stadium? The power spot is right field and he has only hit 2 of his hrs to right all year. Plus the park factor has regressed (last I saw) to becoming a less hr friendly park. And Citizens Bank Park isn’t really a pitchers park either. I’d see some regression moving from the NL to AL but similar numbers to his Philly years.

          • Yankees420 5 years ago

            There is no logic behind the notion that a hitters numbers will regress due to a switch from the NL to the AL. That argument really only works when discussing pitchers because of the DH in the AL. Now if you want to argue a possible regression due to ballparks, age, weaker lineup, etc. you could make a case. But it’s not like the AL has better pitchers than the NL.

  2. Ian_Smell 5 years ago

    Maybe I’m missing something, but Ianetta seems overrated. He does well at throwing people out, but his stats don’t seem to justify how high people are on him.

    • aap212 5 years ago

      He has an 800 career OPS while playing catcher and is considered disappointing. That says a lot. How many catchers can hit that well and actually play the position? Now imagine if the Rockies ever left him alone at the big league level without demoting him after EIGHT games of slumping or putting Torrealba in his way. Plus he’s always gotten great marks for makeup and he’s still pretty young. I’d love to have him on my team.

  3. AisoRed 5 years ago

    What the Brewers did with the spare money aside, I think we got the better end of the Gomez-Hardy deal. Gomez has a better upside in my opinion and Hardy, while he may be an idol among the women, was playing himself out of a spot in Milwaukee. He may play solid defense, but his range and speed is no match for Escobar’s.

  4. Werth should pick his new team wisely. He bats in the middle of a stacked lineup in a hitter friendly park. If he signs with a team who doesn’t have the caliber lineup of the phillies and a huge park he may be hearing the same things people are saying about Bay this year.

  5. Guest 5 years ago

    F-Mart package for Oswalt? Might as well. Crawford becoming a FA should mean the end of Frenchie…I hope.

    • diehardmets 5 years ago

      Imagine the lineup if they sign Crawford:


      The only problem is that I don’t think they have enough money to retain Oswalt AND sign Crawford. Plus, wven with Oswalt, they’ll need another pitcher. Though, if Vasquez keeps sucking he’d probably come cheap, and he’s an NL stud.

  6. AisoRed 5 years ago

    Well he’s off to a great start so far batting .291

  7. iwishihadaclue 5 years ago

    I said the same thing. You can find ANYTHING you want in NYC.

  8. Infield Fly 5 years ago

    Tim McCarver is right behind Joe Morgan on my list of sportscasters who need to shut the [expletive] up already!

  9. jwredsox 5 years ago

    except a winning basketball team

  10. Infield Fly 5 years ago

    Morgan, sure he has the background, but I find him to be a pompous know-it-all, and that makes him unbearable to listen to.But don’t worry, Jon Miller is right up there too:1) For all the idiotic statements he’s made about our team (and others) without getting his facts straight,2) For his pathetic stop-and-start delivery when he calls a game, and, 3) For the ridiculous way he suddenly goes from a normal speaking tone to absolute hysterics out of nowhere, in the middle of a comment. WTF??!Where does ESPN GET THESE BOZOS??

  11. Infield Fly 5 years ago

    [Like you] I love my Mets with passion…but I also know we have more than one kind of “history.” All the same I am sitting on the edge of my seat (when I can actually sit) living & dying with every pitch…and daring to dream that the team can inspire itself beyond some of their more regrettable tendencies – this season. So despite my realistic streak, I also have a strong appreciation for optimism as well. :-)

    Oh, and let me tell you: it’s a wonderful thing not having to listen to Morgan & Miller!! >:)

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