Odds & Ends: Brewers, Red Sox, Werth, Gonzalez

Exactly one year ago, the Marlins signed Brendan Donnelly and the A's traded for Scott Hairston. Here are some links to check out today…


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5 years 1 month ago

cargo is in the top 15 already

Kitfisto007
5 years 1 month ago

Top 10? I don’t think so. Good and getting better, but average baserunning ability and poor patience and discipline. Maybe he’ll crack it within the next couple of years.

dawgpaddlez
5 years 1 month ago

his overall statistical ability..pretty sure i agree with zack D

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

i think everybody whose not a rockies fan thinks you and zack D are crazy.

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

I’m not a Rockies fan in particular, and I really like Carlos. Maybe not next year, but if he stays healthy, he’s got a lot of potential. He plays hard… the right way in my opinion

gigantes2425
5 years 1 month ago

if he stays healthy he does have a lot of potential you can add him to the list of every other baseball player. i’m not denying that he’s good cause i think he is but the article says next year. that’s not going to happen.

mowses
5 years 1 month ago

If he would have said 10 best NL outfielders, then maybe. But 10 best NL players? Doubt it. He currently ranks 47th in WAR for NL position players and 35 in wOBA if I counted correctly. Average fielding, average baserunning and poor plate discipline won’t do him any favors.

dawgpaddlez
5 years 1 month ago

oh shoot, youre right, i thought we were only talking outfielders..it is difficult to put him in top 10 of overall NL players..

5 years 1 month ago

name ten players better than him next year

bringbackericthered
5 years 1 month ago

Joey Votto
Albert Pujols
Adrian Gonzalez
Chase Utley
Han-Ram
Andre Ethier
Josh Hamilton
David Wright
A-Rod
Mauer

Kitfisto007
5 years 1 month ago

Kevin Youkilis
Ryan Zimmerman
Justin Morneau
Prince Fielder
Pablo Sandoval
Ichiro Suzuki
Kendry Morales
Dustin Pedroia
Ryan Howard
and on and on…

5 years 1 month ago

Since when did Josh Hamilton, A-Rod and Mauer play in the NL? But as far as the overall point, yeah he’s not going to be top 10..but that’s not to say he isn’t a great player already.

BravesRed
5 years 1 month ago

Prado, McCann, Heyward, Lincecum, Halladay, Hart, J. Johnson, Jurrjens, T. Hudson, Rollins, Victorino, Leake, Holliday, Jimenez, Tulowitzki, Cain, and more.

5 years 1 month ago

Tulo isnt better than Carlos G but ok…

BravesRed
5 years 1 month ago

Tulo is a top-5 player and CG isn’t even in the top-30 in all of MLB. Keep telling that to yourself.

BentoBox
5 years 1 month ago

Uh yes Tulo is better than CarGo. This shouldn’t even be a question. Why is everyone in love with Carlos Gonzalez all of a sudden ?

Tulo’s WAR
2007 – 5.4
2008 – 0.9
2009 – 5.7
2010 – 2.6

Cargo’s WAR
2008 – 0.9
2009 – 2.1
2010 – 1.4

5 years 1 month ago

Corey Hart is better than Carlos Gonzalez??…no…just no. Neither is Victorino,mcann,leake, and an argument can be made for heyward…

BravesRed
5 years 1 month ago

Looking at all the major stats, and not including Leake, they all outnumber Gonzalez. So, to call him better than all them makes your statement false. You can look up the stats if you want, since i’m lazy right now to type them out.

BentoBox
5 years 1 month ago

I’ll take a stab
Hanley
Braun
Zimmerman
Wright
Tulo
Pujols
Votto
Braun
Kemp
Holliday

fpz
5 years 1 month ago

In the NL

5 years 1 month ago

whatever you all think about carlos gonzalez we already know that billy beane regrets what he did

icedrake523
5 years 1 month ago

Infante should be traded so Ryan Zimmerman can replace him on the All-Star Team.

baseball52
5 years 1 month ago

It’s a crime he and Votto didn’t make it.

souldrummer
5 years 1 month ago

Matt Capps getting picked by the players is the accomplice to the crime. Because the players picked Matt Capps, the Nats had one representative. If they didn’t have that one representative, Manuel has to choose a representative for the Nats who is likely Zimmerman (although Josh Willingham might have been worthier) and Infante gets left off. Plus picking Matt Capps removes flexibility from the manager to pick Billy Wagner, a lefty out of the pen who is a better reliever.

Matt Capps, about average closer, all-star assassin.

jdub220
5 years 1 month ago

And Josh Willingham.
But the biggest is that OMAR INFANTE made the team.
As Charles Barkley would say, “That’s turrable!”

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 1 month ago

Off topic, but is anyone else seeing the political ads on this site? Tim, I have great respect for what you do on your site but I didn’t like the scientology ads when they were on an I don’t like the political ads now. I come to a site like this to get away from politics and cults masquerading as religion.

HerbertAnchovy
5 years 1 month ago

You need an ad-blocker. I would go insane (er) without one.

ykw
5 years 1 month ago

I can totally understand Infante’s confusion. If I were him, I wouldn’t have expected anyone to tell me I was named an All-Star, either — a subpar offensive season (even for him) marred by significant injury time, a brutal season of infield defense relieved only by occasional plus-work in the OF, and I’m going to Anaheim? Don’t think so. (Even the plays-lotsa-positions excuse doesn’t hold; they already took Omar’s teammate Martin Prado for that.)

5 years 1 month ago

No. They took Prado because he leads the NL in hitting and has the most hits in all of baseball. Prado is the best active 2nd baseman in the NL at this point in time – that’s why he made it.

ykw
5 years 1 month ago

I mean, Prado is capable of playing all over the infield and was already an All-Star reserve, so the NL PTBs didn’t need to take another utility guy (and certainly didn’t need to take =that= utility guy).

5 years 1 month ago

Problem with these young outfielders like J Upton and Carlos Gonzalez is that they are inconsistent, hack-and-slash approach, and plate discipline issues makes them volatile and more prone to streaks. You just don’t know what you are going to get with them from a week to week basis.

Threat_Level_RedSox
5 years 1 month ago

You have to give them some credit though, starteing in the majors at such a young age can really effect the learning curve, it could also be argued that being put in the majors so early might have effected how much better they might have been right know, Would ryan braun have been any better if started in the majors at 22 and not 24?. Probally not.

Any way they are doing pretty well given the added pressure of being young guys in the bigs, does any one else remeber how some people were floating arould that Delmon young was a dud who could’nt live up to the hype? just look at the season he’s haveing know at the ripe ould age of 24.

jdub220
5 years 1 month ago

Upton is inconsistent, but he doesn’t really have plate discipline issues.
He has a .350 OBP, and that’s while being pretty bad (for his talent and previous production) for the majority of the season so far.

5 years 1 month ago

Seems like Omar Infante didn’t even think Omar Infante was an all-star

BaseballFanatic0707
5 years 1 month ago

Shocking I tell you!

rocks4life
5 years 1 month ago

I think that you can’t understand cargo’s ability until you watch the amount of games that he has played. Since the middle of last year he has been one of the most productive players in the league. Looking at his stats up to this point in his career do not tell the full of his potential. First off… cargo is possibly the BEST defensive outfielder in the game 2day. He makes tough catches look easy, and never misplays balls. Not to mention his rocket arm. Like everyone mentioned b4 the one thing he can improve upon is his approach to hitting. He is at times to aggressive. but as far as the person who compared him to justin upton… he still hits the ball hard every time he gets to the plate. He can hit it to all fields with power and he has top shelf speed. Once he gains just a little more maturity he will become an NL MVP (unless voters decide that colorado players are still not allowed to win awards because of the prestige of coors field, and instead they give mvp honors to players in phili where my grandma could hit one out). Just watch and by next year he will be hitting over .323 35 home runs 130 rbi and 30 steals

5 years 1 month ago

So my question to all the haters outside the rocky mountain region…have any of you SEEN a Rockies game? Have you watched him play on a regular basis? My bet is on probably not, unless you have a baseball package with your satellite/cable provider the only Rockies action you see is on Baseball Tonight..since it is a given that only the Yankees, Red Sox, and Stephen Strausberg exist in the baseball universe take some time to watch this kid play on a regular basis NOW and you’ll see a legit 5 tool player. It is about time a mid market club and its players got some recognition for playing the game the right way.

windycitywarrior
5 years 1 month ago

How about Paul Konerko getting snubbed? He paced all of baseball in home runs! Has an almost .300 average and is tied at the top for HR’s! He has more home runs than any of Joe Girardi’s Yankees! Not quite sure why he was passed over. Even if you are not a Chicago White Sox fan, for the validity of this all star farce, please vote for Paulie to make it as the last member. There will be plenty more for Youkilis and Swisher and all the others but P.K. deserves it more than just about any player on there. He homered the White Sox into an 11 game winning streak. How is that not All Star caliber?

BoSoxSam
5 years 1 month ago

I agree, Konerko has had a great season. However, the 1B position is stacked in the AL. Morneau and Cabrera have have absolutely phenomenal seasons, andeven with the home runs, they are better. Youkilis is next, and besides slim leads in home runs and RBIs, Youk beats him in nearly every other offensive category. He also is a much more respected defensive player. So, I think he’s fourth on the 1B depth chart for the AL team, and just barely misses the cut.

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

Giants are interested in Braun? Sure, everyone is interested in Braun. No one will get the face of our franchise though, sorry.

invader3k
5 years 1 month ago

Yeah, not sure what Schulman was smoking on that one. Fielder and Hart available? Probably. Braun? Hell no.

55saveslives
5 years 1 month ago

As a Giants fan, Schulman is a tool! Braun would cost us Lincecum PLUS Posey.

$1529282
5 years 1 month ago

Braun is a “potential target?” Add him to the list next to Longoria, Mauer, Pujols, Strasburg, and Heyward, just to name a few.

What a stupid comment from Schulman.

I_Like_Baseball
5 years 1 month ago

That’s the knock off Ryan Braun link you have attached, I’m looking for the real Ryan Braun

5 years 1 month ago

I think Sabean said Braun but is really in the hunt for Fielder/Hart

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

“scouting potential trade targets Corey Hart, Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun”To even mention that in an article is stupid to be honest.

Don’t get me wrong, Hart and Fielder are likely to be traded at some point but Braun is untouchable.

slr5607
5 years 1 month ago

If we want Braun we need to be willing to give up Tim Lincecum and possibly a prospect swap will need to be involved. Not saying I wouldn’t trade Lincecum for Braun, but that is the reality of the situation.

Sniderlover
5 years 1 month ago

Uhh, I am no Brewers fan but are they seriously going to consider trading Braun?

AisoRed
5 years 1 month ago

No.

losingfaithinmightymelvin
5 years 1 month ago

There is no chance the Brewers even think about trading Braun. He’s signed for an absolute steal of a contract until 2015 I believe. These reporters need to do their homework before they come up with these rediculous “trade rumors”.

ramiro magana
5 years 1 month ago

I would give up masturbating if we got Braun lol, I’d be happy with Prince though, but of course the player I don’t want (Hart) is probably who the giants will get, and brewers will get Zachary wheeler + a few others.

ThePaulCrew
5 years 1 month ago

i think they are gonna want something thats a little more of a sure thing than wheeler.. hart will be a bit cheaper, so wheeler and some guys could get it done.. to get fielder, they are gonna have to pony up more than a guy at low A ball.. im guessing they’ll center a deal around bumgarner

JCTGiants
5 years 1 month ago

Corey Hart is not a proven hitter. Prince Fielder is. I can see the Giants signing him at least 3 years. I am excited.