Odds & Ends: Sheets, Padres, Scutaro, Nationals

A few links to check out while the Yankees play their first game without George Steinbrenner at the helm since 1972…

  • Susan Slusser of The San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Phillies have had a "top scout" on hand for the A's last four series, though Oakland isn't going to move Mark Ellis and Ben Sheets isn't scheduled to pitch this weekend. 
  • James Schmehl of MLive.com says that Sheets could be a "rather inexpensive" trade option for the Tigers if they're looking to add a starting pitcher. 
  • MLB.com's Corey Brock reports that Padres' GM Jed Hoyer told reporters he would like to make a move to improve the team, not just a cosmetic one (all Twitter links). He says the prices must first come down, and that he has the resources to add multiple pieces.
  • WEEI.com's Rob Bradford says (via Twitter) that the Braves did not talk to the Red Sox about a potential Yunel EscobarMarco Scutaro deal. He says that the Blue Jays were the only team Atlanta spoke to about an Escobar trade.
  • Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo ranked the team's international free agent signings for MASNSports.com's Ben Goessling.
  • Dylan Hernandez of The Los Angeles Times tweets that the Tokyo Giants have a scout attending tonight's Dodgers-Cardinals game. If nothing else, it shows that Japanese teams scour the U.S. for talent just like MLB teams do in Japan.


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46 Comments on "Odds & Ends: Sheets, Padres, Scutaro, Nationals"


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Sniderlover
4 years 11 months ago

Not sure why the Sox would consider a Scutaro-Escobar swap since Scutaro has been great for them and they are contending themselves.

I do find it interesting that Jays are the only team they talked to about Escobar. I guess they must have really liked what Jays had to offer and felt like they didn’t need to shop Escobar.

Oh and Escobar is making his debut today and playing pretty well.

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Steve_in_MA
4 years 11 months ago

Not a huge Scutaro fan, but definitely don’t want a head case like Escobar, no matter how talented and young he is. A-Gonz was my fave Red Sox shortstop since Nohmah. Defensively, he is the bomb. Scuts just doesn’t have the range or give you the same set of confidence when in the field. Scuts does draw more walks though (woohoo). And the patently obvious reason the Braves didn’t approach the BoSox about Scuts is because he’s making $6MM a year. They’d have net increased their payroll rather than decreased it by getting Gonzalez at less than $3MM per year.

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Sniderlover
4 years 11 months ago

Scutaro is still above average defensively, he is not Gonzalez or Escobar but he’s still fairly good.

As for the walks, I would much rather prefer a Scutaro type player (offensively) and Gonzalez type player. Gonzalez just hits HR and doesn’t bring much other than that. It’s great to have power but as a Jays fan, I would much rather see Scutaro type because the walks and the fact he gets on base often creates problems for the pitcher and gets hitter into better counts.

Scutaro does fit in well with the Sox though. I believe he is leading-off right now and does a solid job at it. However, he would be much more effective if he had some speed.

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aap212
4 years 11 months ago

Sheets would be really inexpensive for the Tigers. They would probably just need to send the A’s an A-ball arm and an ambulance to pick up Sheets and drive him to Detroit.

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Sniderlover
4 years 11 months ago

Sheets has been pitching rather good in the past 10 starts or so and if he can continue to pitch well in the next few starts before the trade deadline then teams may give up a decent prospect(s). If they can also agree to absorb rest of his salary then they can get even more back.

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Civilization
4 years 11 months ago

We’ve got this really nice first/third base prospect named Jeff Larish that you’ll just love! Scouts say he’s got real power potential and other… attributes.

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Heliosphan
4 years 11 months ago

Like his ridiculous strikeout rate.

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

I don’t know how I feel about dealing with Billy Beane, but Sheets could be interesting.

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aap212
4 years 11 months ago

Ted Lilly for Bobby Kielty. Aaron Harang for Jose Guillen. Andre Ethier for Milton Bradley. Tim Hudson for Dan Meyer.

Great GM, but he can be beaten.

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

Yeah, I know. I just don’t like him.

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aap212
4 years 11 months ago

Because he wrote that book, Mr. Morgan?

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verlander
4 years 11 months ago

Well played, aap212.

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sacu
4 years 11 months ago

Me neither, and I’m an A’s fan.

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coachofall
4 years 11 months ago

I agree in retrospect those deals don’t look too hot. But giving up Harrang for jose Guillen allowed them to reach the playoffs. Milton Bradley did the same. You have to give up quality to get quality and both those players (Bradley and Guillen) led to playoff appearances.

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aap212
4 years 11 months ago

Fair enough. The Reds and Dodgers still won those trades, and my overarching point was that even Billy Beane has a blooper reel (which, as you pointed out, applies more to the Lilly trade. Ouch).

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zonis
4 years 11 months ago

Well, in context, it still was stupid, but slightly defensible.

During that off season, the A’s were courting Keith Foulke to resign him. Foulke used the A’s basically to make the Red Sox give him a bigger contract. In order to free up money to sign Foulke, the A’s had to trade Lilly (and in tern, believed they were getting a solid starting OF diamond in the rough), but Foulke ended up signing with the Sox instead, causing the A’s to not only miss out on Foulke, but on their 2nd choice Gordon, and a couple others, and have to settle for complete disaster Arthur Rhodes, and trade for Mark Redman who ended up having a similar salary to Lilly.

It is a mistake that the Phillies also made, as well as quite a few teams, and it always perplexes me as to why they do it, especially during the off season. Teams look at their budget, and decide that to make Deal X, they have to trade Player Y to free up the salary for Deal X. But what I never understood is why the team does not just make Deal X, then figure out how to make the salary work, even if it is trading Player Y, AFTER they make Deal X instead of before it. After all, they don’t have to start paying the player salary until the season starts, and it protects the team in case the deal falls through, as well as gives the team leeway and better leverage instead of having to sell low (as happened with Lilly and Lee) by having more time to make a deal. And hey, it might convince them that dumping a crappy player might be a better idea than dumping a good player.

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Steve_in_MA
4 years 11 months ago

Schmehl must be smoking crack. Sheets is due at least $4MM on a $10MM deal that was and is a ridiculous overpayment. He’s a rehabber and the early numbers show this. I’m sure Oakland is not gonna agree to eat salary just to get him off their roster. No doubt, he’s an inning eater. But so are tons of guys who make between $400K and $2MM per year. That’s why it was simply foolish for Beane to sign Sheets at $10MM.

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aap212
4 years 11 months ago

You’re so out of touch with reality. If he was smoking crack, he probably would have sold his computer for more crack by now.

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coachofall
4 years 11 months ago

The Sheets deal may appear to be an overpay, but it is often overlooked that small market teams get a large amount of money in Revenue sharing. A’s had to spend money (they threw big money at Beltre and Scutaro) and they settled for a gamble with the potential ace/flip in sheets. The A’s had free money and used it wisely or not that can be debated.

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Steve_in_MA
4 years 11 months ago

All of this is true, but I still hate the precedent Beane created by doing so. Now, rehabbers will be pointing to the Sheets deal as the starting point for their first contracts back after major surgery.

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4 years 11 months ago

The A’s were feeling pressure from the player’s union to spend money since they had only 1 player making over $5 million. The 10 was a gamble and will not pay off but it is better to try then not to gamble at all. The A’s can wait until after July 31st and get rid of his remaining money through waiver since someone will bite but its better than having a Perez or Zambrano with years remaining and nobody wants them.

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Steve_in_MA
4 years 11 months ago

Thanks for pointing this out, which I had not considered. But I must say I regret that Beane did this with Sheets. He made a market for a rehabber demanding front-line starter pay. The previous market was reasonable (Penny/Smoltz at $5MM). Now, guys returning after major surgery are going to point to the Sheets deal to demand these big dollar contracts when they have not yet proven they are front-line capable. You also have to be wary of creating precedents when you proceed on a deal.

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dawgpaddlez
4 years 11 months ago

does anyone think sheets may have made a bad decision by signing with an AL team..perhaps during his early struggles..in a league like the NL his peripheral and overall numbers wouldnt look quite as bad and his numbers when he started clicking would look even better…perhaps settling for a couple of mil less from an NL club may have led to more money from him later…

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portmexjr96
4 years 11 months ago

please get sheets out of Oakland but after we get our 2 starters off the DL!