Yankees On Soria’s No-Trade List

WEDNESDAY: Soria can also block deals to the Red Sox, Tigers, Phillies, Cardinals or Cubs, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. The reliever’s 2012 option vests at $6MM if he finishes 55 games in 2011. It would be difficult for Soria to reach that mark if he weren’t closing games, but his trade protection provides him with some leverage.

TUESDAY: The Yankees are one of six teams on the no-trade list of Royals closer Joakim Soria, reports ESPN's Andrew MarchandWe learned yesterday that the Yankees made a "big proposal" for Soria, even dangling Jesus Montero, but the Royals were not interested.

Marchand notes that in the unlikely event the Royals and Yankees do reach an agreement for Soria, the no-trade clause might simply provide leverage for the pitcher.  Maybe that means he requires all three club options to be picked up or even a contract restructuring, but we're getting ahead of ourselves.


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222 Comments on "Yankees On Soria’s No-Trade List"


Tim Valencia
5 years 1 day ago

Im now waiting for the subsequent posts about Soria not having the guts to be able to pitch in New york and how he is a wuss.

anthonymurillo
5 years 1 day ago

I certainly get the concept that not every single player in the MLB wants to be a Yankee…

However, the Yankees offer the best chance to win a championship. Why wouldn’t players want to be apart of that? Probably because their hesistant about handling the pressure, the constant criticism.

5 years 1 day ago

Soria talked with a couple of Mexican sport journalists during the 2009 winter, and they said Soria mentioned the Yankees as a place he would love to pitch BUT also was concerned about the treatment Joe Girardi gives to latinos, specially mexicans (basically the same treatment Joe Torre has towards mexicans), i guess he knows better since there are a few mexicans with the Yankees organization (Peña, Aceves, a pretty good thirdbasemen at AAA in Vázquez, and in 2009 Hairston, another mexican, was not very happy with the way JoeG treated him). All that happened during the off season, when he also said he was very happy with the people of Kansas City because right now he lives a normal life and not that of a superstar and with his first child and all, he wants to live as peaceful as he can.

Bxjohn139
5 years 1 day ago

The bottom line is that pitching in NY, especially with the Yankees creates an unbearable pressure and most can’t handle it. I suspect Soria is one. You have to have an attitude Like the news players Swisher, Tex and Thames. The old core are use to the pressures, they were brought up in the system and the Yankees got lucky.

5 years 1 day ago

Thames? lol

Bxjohn139
5 years 1 day ago

Thames?LOL. I think a better explanation is needed. Not the one you gave.

Table
5 years 14 hours ago

He just doesn’t want to be behind Rivera. Who knows when that guy will retire.

5 years 13 hours ago

Thats my initial thought. Perhaps the Yanks and Sox are listed due to having closers in place already

fitz
5 years 1 day ago

He has good taste, sorry.

bonestock94
5 years 1 day ago

Maybe he’d prefer the ugly chicks and early offseason in Boston.

fitz
5 years 1 day ago

Hey, don’t be bitter because your city sucks too much for Soria.

5 years 1 day ago

Hey don’t be bitter cause your team just plain sucks =D

5 years 1 day ago

Well the only reason your team is any good is because they have a $220 million payroll, with that much of a payroll they should be damn near undefeated. The fact that they have that much of a payroll and “need” to add players is quite pathetic IMO.

homerthehomie
5 years 1 day ago

Stop with the “payroll” BS! The Red Sox have a high payroll too! Lots of teams have very high payrolls. The Mets have a high payroll. They suck!

5 years 14 hours ago

It’s not payroll BS when the Yankees have a payroll that is $50 million more than the closest team.

lug
5 years 14 hours ago

ha ha that is an excellent point.

5 years 12 hours ago

As far as I know games are won and lost in the field. No matter how much money you spend, that will not insure a championship. The thing that people hate the most of the Yankees is that they are a very special group of guys with a great love for the game and the right attitude in competition. But no matter what we say it is an issue of payroll. I guess some people will never learn. Sorry!

5 years 4 hours ago

Actually what people hate the most about the Yankees is that they spend so much money and steal players away from teams and people are just tired of watching the Yankees win with the largest payrolls in MLB history. Almost everyone who plays in the MLB are a great group of guys who have a great love of the game and have the right attitude in competition. I guess many Yankee fans just can’t realize that money goes a long way for a team to win it all, hence why the Yankees have won 27 championships. They have bought their way to every championship since they bought Babe Ruth from the Red Sox, considering the Yankees hadn’t won a championship until they did that.

fitz
5 years 1 day ago

Hmm yeah I bet the Yanks would be doing great if they lost Cano, Posada, Gardner and Sabathia.

Flavius_Belisarius
5 years 1 day ago

You tell em, fitz! The Yanks would be doing horrible if they lost Cano, Posada(who they lost already a few times), Gardner, Sabathia, Rivera, Jeter, Hughes, Robertson, Swisher and Babe Ruth.

SirLoinCloth
5 years 1 day ago

I bet Boston would do soooo much better without Youk, Beckett, Lester, and Pedroia. See I can play that game too

Potrzeba
5 years 13 hours ago

We have done decent without predroia, Beckett, v-mart, varitek, elsbury. For Gods sake, our lineup there for awhile was a spring training lineup. Mcdonald, nava, cash, Patterson.

Nivarsity
5 years 13 hours ago

Cam down. Both your teams are obnoxious assholes who spend like crazy.

5 years 1 day ago

its because the yanks already have a closer and he dosent want to be a setup guy he wants to be paid like a closer, give him a couple years if hes still any good than the yanks can get him

Table
5 years 14 hours ago

Mariano Rivera, hello! Soira obviously wants to remain a closer, because teams pay way Way more money to closers than they do set up men. Soria probably has career goals as far as saving a certain number of games etc as well. That is why he has no trade clauses to certain teams, not just because he hates NY or whatever else is being said.

I am just saying… Doesn’t it mean that? I would say the same thing if he didn’t want to pitch for Boston.. What is a reason you wouldn’t want to play for a team that wins every year besides not liking the media or the pressure (maybe his ego of wanting to be closer)? You get paid more than anyone else and you win more than anyone else…. only a few reasons why you wouldn’t play for them.

anthonymurillo
5 years 1 day ago

Exactly. Why wouldn’t Soria want to play for a team that:

1) Are defending World Series Champions
2) Has a brand new ball park
3) First place in the toughest division in baseball
4) Could set-up the greatest reliever of all time
5) Could eventually replace the greatest reliever of all time
6) If successful, could be a bigger name in baseball

start_wearing_purple
5 years 1 day ago

Set up… not close. Maximum I’ve seen a set up man get is around $5M-$6M a year. The max I’ve seen a closer get is $15M. And considering Mariano is aging like a fine wine, I don’t see the yanks offering the job to anyone else any time soon.

5 years 1 day ago

Actual reasons one might not want to play for the yankees:

1) Rumors (true or untrue) regarding unfavourable treatment of your ethnic group
2) A preference to not live in NY
3) A dislike of the (successful) manner in which the NYY conduct business in the MLB
4) A desire to not have his personal life scrutinized by a relatively intrusive and often hostile media (and media market)
5) A desire to maintain his role as a closer: a) because he enjoys closing; and b) because come his next contract he could make a lot more money if he has been closing for the previous years

Other possible (however unlikely) reasons could include:
6) A desire to stay with the home he has created
7) A desire not to pitch in the difficult (and only getting more difficult) AL east
8) Aspirations to live in a different geographical part of the country

and so on…

5 years 1 day ago

Oh and possibly not playing for an organization that is quicker than most to dump you at any sign of trouble. It is probably smart business by the Yankees, an ability made possible in large part by their availability of resources. Less awesome for the players though.

5 years 1 day ago

The Yankees don’t just dump the players they have when they are struggling or doing poorly. See Joba Chamberlain, Carl Pavano, Alex Rodriguez (postseason struggles), Robinson Cano, David Robertson, etc. NY roots hard for their players to succeed and if Soria is too concerned with screwing up than of course he is gonna screw up. To play in NY you have to be bold and you have to trust your stuff. If you have no confidence then you will surely fail. So if this is the type of guy soria is then he will do poorly in NY…

5 years 1 day ago

Judging by their contracts, are you really surprised the Yankees didn’t dump ARod/Pavano? Also, Chamberlain hasn’t struggled until this year and a lot of people have him out the door already…? He was a mediocre 4th/5th starter last year, they didn’t need him to pitch like an ace and expected a growth period. Lastly, when did Robinson Cano really struggle? I remember him going through a tough stretch early, but the fact is it didn’t last that long and he ended up with a line of .297 / .320 / .458 with 18 HRs.

Granderson would’ve been a better example but I suspect if they weren’t in 1st place you’d hear people calling for his head.

5 years 1 day ago

In 2008 cano hit .271 and people were freaking out because he could not hit with RISP to save his damn life. Now he is one of the most feared number five hitters in the league. I don’t quit on players but if they don’t deserve praise then they are certainly not gonna get it. That was AROD’s problem. He wanted everyone to like him so he sucked in the playoffs and with RISP. Soria would be the same way. He would worry about what other people think of him instead of just playing like the All-Star he is capable of playing as since he is afraid of coming to NY and is afraid of the pressure and Media that NY has to offer. He won’t see it as a potential place to make a name for himself so he will continue to rot in KC… yay for him!

5 years 1 day ago

How did we go from suggesting possible reasons why Soria might not want to play in NY to stating as fact that Soria does not like high-pressure situations. Come on now, the guy IS a closer after all.

Otis26
5 years 1 day ago

You obviously haven’t read much about Soria. He has ice-water in his veins. Confidence is not a problem.

What IS amusing is the Yankee fans posting their shock and dismay that not everyone is interested in playing there. Amusing. Not surprising. Just amusing.

Bxjohn139
5 years 1 day ago

I notice one thing about your post. They are senseless just as you are concerning BB and living in NY. I guess living home with mommy made you a sheltered little girl.

5 years 1 day ago

I’m not sure I understand what is being asserted in this post. Something about the grammatical construction or word choice leaves much to be desired.

Examples: 1) You mention “one thing” you notice, but then do not identify that “one thing.”
2) You suddenly introduce the pronoun “they” but fail to indicate its referent.
3) There must be a preposition missing in the last sentence…”at” perhaps.
4) It is unclear how a person’s growing up in a home with their mother would turn them into a “sheltered little girl,” particularly if that involved a gender change. However, perhaps you were suggesting that I STILL live at home with my mother, in which case you are simply asserting a false, groundless proposition.
5) Your use of “senseless” seems either to have a technical sense with which I am not familiar or you used it incorrectly. Surely, you must have noticed how other people seemed to understand the intended meaning present in my posts. If we loosely take sense and meaning (i.e. semantic content) as the same thing, it hardly makes “sense” (hahahah) to call my post(s) senseless.

Bxjohn139
5 years 1 day ago

All your BS now confirms everything I said, you are a sheltered little girl. No need to respond I feel sorry for you. Living a sheltered life especially for a little girl that’s heartless.

start_wearing_purple
5 years 1 day ago

You’re 12 right? I find it pathetic when people online try to pump themselves up and argue with name calling. Seriously, weak dude.

5 years 1 day ago

Agreed. Thank you.

Yankees420
5 years 1 day ago

You do realize that it’s people like you that give Yankee fans a horrible name, don’t you? I mean seriously, how hard is it to have an adult conversation about baseball with a fan of another team? Please mature before coming back to these message boards, thank you.

5 years 1 day ago

thanks for the grammer lesson

5 years 1 day ago

maybe he just thinks your team, management, town, and fans are a bunch of dbags
:shrug:

should i get the box of tissues out yet?

Nivarsity
5 years 13 hours ago

Yankees fans epitomize arrogance.

If say, the (first-place) Rangers were on the short list of no-trade teams, no one would bat an eyelash. Hell if any team in baseball were on there, no one would say anything.

But oh, the Yankees, they’re soooooooooo great!!!111!!! Everyone wants to be a Yankee!!!!111!!!!

Get over yourself.

5 years 1 day ago

My thought on it would be, you put the NYY on your list because if they get to the point where they want to trade for you, you shoot for a boost in your contract.
I know that every Yankee fan gets pissed about how everyone is “trying to fleece” them whether via FA or trades…but wouldn’t you think that putting yourself in the driver seat with the Bank of America would be a good idea?

I don’t necessarily think it is being scared of any place…smart business decision by Soria’s agent.

andrewyf
5 years 1 day ago

This is exactly the reason why.

RBomb2844
5 years 1 day ago

This is exactly what I was going to say. First of all, he knows that he is with a club (KC) that is not a contender and could most likely trade him, so, by putting the Yankees on his no trade list, he is guaranteed to get what he wants out of a trade, probably knowing that if the Yankees want him bad enough, they will give him much more money. This is smart. Why settle for letting a club that doesn’t compete trade you to a high market team only to get the same undermarket value you would have in your other team?

5 years 1 day ago

I think the reactions to Yankee fans are just as bad as than Yankee fans themselves. Pot and Kettle.

5 years 1 day ago

You’re right Valencia. It couldn’t be any other reason. I like the info on how Yankees treat mexicans. Should have boycotted that All-Star Game. Anyway, why can’t anybody just not like the Yankees? Maybe he’s against the idea of fielding the best team money can buy.

mizzoubd
5 years 1 day ago

His stats pitching in NY for the Royals seem to be just fine. The pressure is not the problem, it is the team itself.

5 years 1 day ago

Pitching against the Yankees in New York is not the same as pitching FOR the Yankees in New York… especially when you have Rivera taking the saves, and with how dominant he has been over the years, eventually replacing him… its a lot more pressure than going in for 6-8 games/year pitching against them…

5 years 1 day ago

I agree with your post but let’s be honest… is he actually gonna be able to close out 6-8 games against the Yankees when the Yankees take 6 or 7 out of 8 from the Royals every year, lol.

MaineSox
5 years 1 day ago

Maybe I’m wrong but your logic seems flawed. Wouldn’t it be a lot more stressful to pitch AGAINST a team full of all-stars and perennially one of the best teams in baseball than to pitch FOR them? Lots of great pitchers have poor numbers against New York because of the offense they put out there everyday and if this guy has good numbers AGAINST them he could certainly pitch for them and put up good numbers FOR them. I don’t buy that he couldn’t handle it, I think it is a lot more likely that he simply wouldn’t want to deal with it, which is completely different.

5 years 1 day ago

This guy must be a whimp. How can you not want to play on a World Series Contender. That dude does not have the balls to play in NY apparently. If you were on one of the worst teams in baseball and had the chance to get traded to the cream of the crop how could you say, “eh, don’t really feel like it.” This guy is either smoking some good stuff that is making him lose his mind or he is simply put a whimp. End of story.

chaifetz10
5 years 1 day ago

Not everyone sees the Yankees as the crown jewel of baseball. Just because a player doesn’t want to go to your city doesn’t make him a whimp.

barbarino2000
5 years 1 day ago

Yeah. It isn’t everyone’s dream to play for NY…especially when the position you play (Closer) is already taken. So you and your greasy friends in here should lose the NY Ego. To the rest of the country that ego is looked at as a joke. Not something that is admired.

5 years 1 day ago

It’s not an ego is A FACT. Who has 27 titles? who is leading the league in wins? Who just won the World series last year? The Yankees are first class. They give back to the community. They put a winner of the field every single year. They give to the fans unlike the owners in your cities who just take the money and put a $50 million dollar team on the field.

MaineSox
5 years 1 day ago

The Yankees aren’t the only ones who have a legitimate shot at winning year in and year out, there are several other teams a player could go to and have a shot at the playoffs every year. Maybe it has nothing to do with being able to handle New York and it’s pressure, maybe he wouldn’t like living in New York and would be happy with 5-6mil living somewhere he would enjoy and doesn’t need 10-12mil while living somewhere he wouldn’t like living. (I know, taking less money, or even winning less, and still being happy sounds crazy right?)

frank_costanza
5 years 1 day ago

It may be silly for them to even trade Soria. They have him for what? 4 more years? And his contract is far less than what he should be paid.

magnushanso
5 years 1 day ago

No way. It’s a no brainer if you’re offered a top 5 prospect in all of baseball for a closer.

Dayton Moore is a colossal moron, so it would not be a surprise to me if he turned down Montero for Soria.

Closers are the most overvalued players in all of baseball.

wolf9309
5 years 1 day ago

It could well be he turned it down because Soria said “no”

Ferrariman
5 years 1 day ago

well obviously. but no one is going to offer 5 top prospects for a reliever. no matter how good he is, whether he be Mariano Rivera or Leo Nunez. no one is worth that much unless your name is Albert pujols, Ryan Braun, Evan Longoria, or…well..thats it.

5 years 1 day ago

He said top 5 prospect not 5 top prospects… and it is probably because Soria said no…

dbreer23
5 years 1 day ago

I’d ask for Romine or Murphy and another prospect over Montero. Fills an organizational need in the case that Myers gets moved to RF (and Romine would beat Myers to the majors anyhow), and it’s not as if the Royals are lacking for 1B/DH types – Montero will not be a catcher long-term…or even short-term.

Yankees420
5 years 1 day ago

That’s not smart whatsoever. I understand that the Royals are jammed with 1B/DH type players, but when making a trade you get the most valuable package possible, especially when one of the top prospects in the minors is (reportedly) being offered. Its not like DM couldn’t turn around and trade Montero for something he needs, or trade one of the other 1B/DH’s.

Devern Hansack
5 years 1 day ago

Joakim Soria: The Anti-LeBron James.

ronny9
5 years 1 day ago

Joakim Soria: not even close to the best player in the league.

Joakim Soria: not a free agent

5 years 1 day ago

Joakim Soria: Not taking his talent to the Bronx.

ronny9
5 years 1 day ago

which is a good thing in my opinion.

edmcm
5 years 1 day ago

Good man:)

Ferrariman
5 years 1 day ago

is it bad that i can’t stop laughing uncontrollably?

:0

ronny9
5 years 1 day ago

Is it bad that you keep putting cardinal hats on players that will not be playing for them in the near future?

Ferrariman
5 years 1 day ago

lol chill out bro. check out the forum website once in a while. lots of guys are doing it.

DMCj
5 years 1 day ago

Know who would look really good in a Yanks uniform? Matt Capps.

Know who would look even better in a Nats uniform? Jesus Montero.

Am I crazy to think this is even remotely possible? Guilty as charged.

5 years 1 day ago

Montero has been linked to Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, and Joakim Soria. Matt Capps is not nearly in the same category as them…

DMCj
5 years 1 day ago

Oh I know … but a guy can dream.

bonestock94
5 years 1 day ago

Neither is Soria.

Pat_M
5 years 1 day ago

Joakim Soria isn’t nearly in the same category as Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay if you want to get picky. Sure he’s under control for longer, but they would have extended Lee or Halladay had they traded for them anyways.

5 years 1 day ago

yes you’re right lol soria isn’t either

5 years 1 day ago

Whether Soria is in the same category is a matter of how the Yankees want to use him. As a setup man, no he isn’t. But tell me the Yankees don’t value their current closer way too much as it is. If Soria is the future closer, the Yankees would value him pretty high. Too high.

5 years 1 day ago

Doesn’t sound like Mo wants to call it quits anytime soon, so it’d likely be setup man. He’d sure be a hell of an heir for when he finally does retire though.

Pat_M
5 years 1 day ago

Yes I’m sure they do value Mo very highly, as they should. But its worth noting that Cliff Lee has 4.3 WAR and Roy Halladay 4.8 WAR so far this season. Mo Rivera has never generated that much WAR in a season, ever. Thus why Soria (or any closer) is not in that category.

MB923
5 years 1 day ago

False. 1996 he did with a 4.4 (On FanGraphs WAR)

Doesn’t make a difference though who had a higher WAR. Rivera is a hall of famer. And as of right now, Halladay or Lee aren’t. Halladay prob has a better chance in the near future, but he isn’t if retired right now.

I don’t use WAR though, not a fan of it, and yes I know what it is and everything but I find no use for it to be honest. I really only use FanGraphs for stats like UZR for defensive stats, but I don’t find WAR useful much. But that’s just me lol.

5 years 1 day ago

It makes you wonder what the Yankees really think of Montero. That they would dangle a potential MVP caliber bat for any relief pitcher (even an amazing/cheap one) has me wondering if they are reevaluating their projections of the kid.

5 years 1 day ago

A potential MVP caliber bat, but not a very good catcher, so his time with the yankees could be as a DH, and there are a lot of PROVEN hitters that could be DH’ing for NYY in 2011.

On the other hand, Soria has been one of the best, if not the best closer in the MLB the last three years (except for Mariano Rivera).

5 years 1 day ago

I love how you consider Montero a potential MVP Caliber Bat….and Soria as “Any Relief Pitcher” yes you do consider him amazing and cheap but come on, thats like buying a car but never driving it because it has the potential to get in an accident…Soria is a game changer NOW, Montero might someday maybe if they can find a position for him be a game changer…

Yankees420
5 years 1 day ago

Montero does have a potential MVP caliber bat, it’s just a matter of whether he reaches that potential in the majors, which I’m not saying he will.

I think you’re misreading the reference of Soria as “any relief pitcher” (like I did at first). I think what he is saying is that he’s surprised they would trade Montero for a relief pitcher at all, even one as good as Soria.

Overall, it’s not worth it, 6 years of a top 5 prospect in the game for a player that would be your set up man? I’d rather wait till Joba’s ERA begins to reflect his FIP.

stl_cards16
5 years 1 day ago

YES YES YES! I posted yesterday, asking if I was the only one that found it alarming that all of the sudden this untouchable future superstar is all of the sudden being offered up for anyone the Yanks think they could use. I’ll say it again. This should tell us ALOT of what the Yanks REALLY think about Montero’s future.

bonestock94
5 years 1 day ago

I think they REALLY think that he’s not a great defensive catcher, which every scout has already said. What could they REALLY think about a 20 year old’s bat raking in AAA?

stl_cards16
5 years 1 day ago

If he is that big of a talent on the offensive side, you find a position for him. If he really has the chance to be anything close to Miguel Cabrera, you would trade him for a reliever? Just seems like that he was so untouchable and now, anything they like they will offer him up. I could be reading too much into it, and if he’s really that good the Royals made a huge mistake. Only time will tell though

bonestock94
5 years 1 day ago

You’re right, that’s why I struggle believing this rumor at all. I don’t think the Yanks would make it and I don’t think the Royals would decline.

5 years 1 day ago

I saw this on a Royals forum yesterday, and it made me laugh. So I will share with you all.

Montero AAA Age 20: .274/.350/.462/.812
Billy Butler AAA Age 21: .291/.412/.542/.954

I know there is a 1 year age difference, but to me, Montero was aggressively promoted. And it won’t make that much of a difference at that level. He also does not walk enough to be adequate at 1B without an incredible batting average.

The point is not that Billy Butler is a better player (an Billy is MLB average offensively at the position now), but that Montero’s numbers do not necessarily project to “MVP Caliber,” especially as the consensus emerges that he will not stick at catcher. Montero will hit in the Majors, but I would bet against him even being much of an above average bat at 1B or DH without quite a bit of further development in plate discipline. Unless the guy is Ryan Howard or Vlad Guerrero, you just do not see these types of big bats work out without a 11-15% walk rate.

I suspect the Yankees, as well as the rest of the MLB, know he is a decent player, but his prospect status is over-inflated. They want to cash in now while the hype is there. That is likely why they will give him up for a player they really like, but it would seem that they would overpay a lot. Next year, his stock might not be so high. And if he hits the Majors and people find out he is not the greatest bat “in the history of whatever”, then his value would go down a lot.

Perhaps the Royals don’t want to buy retail on a bat that will be on sale two years from now…

5 years 1 day ago

The only thing they may be questioning is his future position. Many people project him as a 1B or OF. The Yankees obviously have 1st tied up for awhile, and as for catcher, they have two other very highly thought of guys that are good hitters and much better catchers than Montero.

Zeppelin5083
5 years 1 day ago

If I were Soria or Greinke I would’ve requested a trade years ago. Royals are going nowhere. At least teams like the Rays, Padres and Reds have built a decent team. Royals just sell every year.

Otis26
5 years 1 day ago

I cannot argue that the Royals at the major league level haven’t made a lot of great moves. For every Soria there’s a Crisp and Jacobs.

However, to say they’re ‘going nowhere’ is inaccurate I think. If you take the time to look at their farm system and see how stocked it has become under Moore the last 4 years you may be surprised. What was once probably the worst farm system in the Majors is now top 10 or possibly top 5.

They are going in the right direction…but likely it won’t be until 2013 before the fruits of the investment in the minors pays off.

dbreer23
5 years 1 day ago

It also took each of those teams nearly a decade to build the teams that they have…new mgmt needs 8-10 years to watch their vision come to fruition. The Yankees sucked for 15 years before they grew their own talent, why should the Royals be any different?

RBomb2844
5 years 1 day ago

Have you even seen the farm system? They are rebuilding and that is why they are looking to 2012 or 2013. There farm system is one of the best in the league. Why would you sell guys that are locked up for 4 years and well below-market value? Greinke, Butler, and Soria are the heart of the franchise and are locked up. These are the guys whom you build your team around if you’re rebuilding. You don’t sell them.

bonestock94
5 years 1 day ago

Maybe it’s my “typical New Yorker” attitude, but that’s so bizarre to me. Whatever, trading Montero for a reliever is retarded (in my and WAR’s opinion) so this is a huge relief to me.

Mauerneau
5 years 1 day ago

Wow there’s a refreshing story.

fishfan4life
5 years 1 day ago

Royals rejected Montero for Soria? yikes

5 years 1 day ago

What kind of person ENSURES that he can’t make it on a team that has a chance to win every dang year? I know there’s a ton of pressure but come on! He could be replacing Mo Freakin’ Rivera someday if he went on the Yanks. I honestly just don’t understand Soria’s logic.

EDIT: I forgot that Rivera is going to pitch until he’s 70. Sorry, Soria.

5 years 1 day ago

I’m a royals fan and it’s very obvious that kc is trying to build for the future. But trading soria is NOT the way to build for the future. He’s 26 and is our shut down closer. It would be wise if the royals kept him. I don’t understand why they’re even listening to offers for soria

Zeppelin5083
5 years 1 day ago

Are they building for the future? It seems like the Pirates and the Royals have been “building for the future” for years.

5 years 1 day ago

@Zeppelin5083 yea but we suck at it. We’ve had terrible management up until Dayton Moore. He seems like he’s the only one actually making an effort. This is his 5th year. He’s had some great draft picks and our minor leagues are PACKED with talent but we just need to keep developing them and HANG on to them. Which seems to be our hardest problem. (Carlos Beltran, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Damon)

5 years 1 day ago

Ditto on Nathan beck’s post. Moore has been the GM that has been most patient, although signing free agents like Pods, Ankiel, and Kendall is hurting his reputation. Before Moore, we only said we were building for the future.

start_wearing_purple
5 years 1 day ago

The real problem is one the Royals tend to rush their next best prospect into the limelight before they’re ready. See Alex Gordon. Anyone who loves the Royals tends to see their next power hitting prospect and say “Look, it’s the next George Brett.” And management tends to respond by rushing them up before they’re really ready. The real question is how are they going to deal with Moose, Hosmer, and Mongomery next year.

5 years 1 day ago

Pods and Ankiel are not the problem. Those were one year rentals to try and field a legitimate team fans would come to see. OF prospects for the Royals does hit AA and AAA this year, so those signings were to prevent from rushing players and destroying their development.

The Guillen signing, Farnsworth signing, and Betancourt trade were much more indefensible.

schellis
5 years 1 day ago

If Soria is really out there the Reds need to be calling the Royals hourly. Bring him on board and push everyone down a peg. Soria is one of the best closers in the game and he’d be wasted in NY.

I’m sure that he has his reasons for not wanting to go to NY, I know I wouldn’t want to go anywhere if I signed that kind of contract to stay in KC.

Guest
5 years 1 day ago

Good.

5 years 1 day ago

@Zeppelin5083 yea but we suck at it. We’ve had terrible management up until Dayton Moore. He seems like he’s the only one actually making an effort. This is his 5th year. He’s had some great draft picks and our minor leagues are PACKED with talent but we just need to keep developing them and HANG on to them. Which seems to be our hardest problem. (Carlos Beltran, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Damon)

CosaOne
5 years 1 day ago

Drayton Moore is a terrible GM its like he doesnt understand the concept of on base percentage. He does however like you accurately said, have a fantastic eye for drafting. Make him the Scouting Director and get a new GM and that team would be in much better shape. Hes done a superb job bringing in amatuer talent and now the Royals have a top 1-3 system (Rangers or Rays in the mix)

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
5 years 1 day ago

I wish more guys would have that same No – Trade Clause.. Good man

blaze81
5 years 1 day ago

The article says that the clause could be used as leverage, not that he definately wouldn’t go there. I for one would NOT want to see him in pinstripes though.

ramos2407
5 years 1 day ago

As a Yankees fan, I would admit management tends to be short-sighted….the mentally is what can we do to win now? The bullpen is a glaring weakness and with another top catching prospect in AA they could afford to lose Montero. Soria will be a instant 8th inning shut down pitcher and heir apparent to Rivera. I would prefer not to lose Montero, the kid hits to all fields and has raw power (25-35HR a year potential). Can we trade Chamberlain somewhere as a starter + a prospect for a relief pitcher?

BWOzar
5 years 1 day ago

Frankly, (and I say this is a Yankee fan) every single player that signs a contract with team options years and gets no-trade protection should put the Yankees on their list. Why? Because the Yankees are the team that, financially, can most easily pick up an option year or two at the time of acquisition.