Odds & Ends: Listach, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Hill

Saturday evening linkage as the Phillies and Giants kick off the NLCS…


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  1. Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

    Apparently, from what we’ve witnesses, Eric Wedge does interviews like nobody else.

  2. Threat_Level_RedSox 5 years ago

    Really dont see Mcdonald beating out Ryan Kalish/Mike Cameron out for the 4th outfielder, and if the sox do in fact sign one of Crawford/Werth he probally wont even be in the orginization next season.

    • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

      maybe Kalish is a trade chip to acquire bullpen help…No?

      Just as an example…What about Ryan Kalish for somebody like Sergio Romo or Phil Coke…

      • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 5 years ago

        Sergio Romo might work. Detroit is converting Coke to starting, so I doubt they’re ready to part with him.

        Someone please give Darnell McDonald a roster spot. I see him as a good fit for the White Sox. They aren’t going to fret about what he can’t do. They’ll just try to get the best out of what he can do.

        • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

          I agree.

        • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

          I agree.

        • Potrzeba 5 years ago

          Kalish isn’t gunna be traded for a relife pitcher, that would be stupid. Maybe a big bat if that. I would trade kalish for prince or Adrian staright up. Kalish could be a Ryan bruan.

          • BentoBox 5 years ago

            I agree that Kalish shouldn’t be traded for a relief pitcher but he won’t be the next Braun. He could be the next David DeJesus or Choo but not Braun.

      • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 5 years ago

        Sergio Romo might work. Detroit is converting Coke to starting, so I doubt they’re ready to part with him.

        Someone please give Darnell McDonald a roster spot. I see him as a good fit for the White Sox. They aren’t going to fret about what he can’t do. They’ll just try to get the best out of what he can do.

      • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

        My bet is Kalish won’t be moved unless it’s part of a larger deal. Best bet is he starts in AAA with McDonald claiming the 4th outfield spot. Of course if Boston does sign Werth or Crawford then McDonald’s fate will be tied up in Ellsbury and Cameron’s health.

        As for the pen, I’m guessing the Sox sign Downs, re-sign Atchinson, then fill out the rest with in house potentials and who ever is on the scrap heap.

        • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

          This sounds crazy, but I say ellsbury isn’t wearing a red sox uniform come opening day ’11.

          • I don’t think it’s crazy, there are a lot of people calling for him to be dealt. I don’t think he will, because the Red Sox probably value him more than most organizations. He isn’t untouchable by any means, but I just can’t envision a package that would please the Red Sox. Their outfield depth isn’t exactly great after this season with Cameron and Drew leaving.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Only for the right price… and only if they sign Crawford or Werth.

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            On to werth, I think he would fit much better with the sox than Crawford.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Well Werth has been steadily improving every year but he’s at the age where declining is inevitable, especially in a long term deal. Oh by the way, go to his page on baseball-reference. The guy sponsoring the page hilariously misspelled fury.

            As for Crawford, I disagree about the fit. I think he’d fit in fine… but there’s something about the potential contract that he’s going to get that screams potential bust to me.

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            Well I just like werth’s swing at Fenway.

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            Well I just like werth’s swing at Fenway.

          • johnsilver 5 years ago

            Another option over Werth and also 31YO next season is a player Epstein has coveted for years in Josh Willingham and the Nationals, maybe fed up with the antics of the speedster Njer Morgan may approach Boston with regards to a possible deal of Willingham and some other useful prospect for Ellsbury if Epstein and the FO is indeed looking to move him and going with a Cameron/Kalish combo in CF, Drew in RF and Willingham in LF.

            Willingham still has a year left under control and has superb pull power from the RH side at far less cost than Werth.

          • johnsilver 5 years ago

            Another option over Werth and also 31YO next season is a player Epstein has coveted for years in Josh Willingham and the Nationals, maybe fed up with the antics of the speedster Njer Morgan may approach Boston with regards to a possible deal of Willingham and some other useful prospect for Ellsbury if Epstein and the FO is indeed looking to move him and going with a Cameron/Kalish combo in CF, Drew in RF and Willingham in LF.

            Willingham still has a year left under control and has superb pull power from the RH side at far less cost than Werth.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Well Werth has been steadily improving every year but he’s at the age where declining is inevitable, especially in a long term deal. Oh by the way, go to his page on baseball-reference. The guy sponsoring the page hilariously misspelled fury.

            As for Crawford, I disagree about the fit. I think he’d fit in fine… but there’s something about the potential contract that he’s going to get that screams potential bust to me.

          • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

            On to werth, I think he would fit much better with the sox than Crawford.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Only for the right price… and only if they sign Crawford or Werth.

        • I don’t think the Red Sox will go into the season counting of Cameron, Drew and Ellsbury to start. I think Cameron needs to be looked at as a 4th outfielder who will get a lot of playing time. I hope they don’t go after Crawford too hard, but I would love to see them make a run at Werth. Anyways, I could see Kalish, Cameron, Drew and Ellsbury each playing around 120 games, give or take 20 for each individual guy. McDonald could be on the roster as a 5th outfielder, since Scutaro or Lowrie will serve as a super utility option and Saltalamachia can play both catcher and first, assuming he’s the back up catcher. Either way I’d like McDonald to be on the team, but if you look past his story it’s not like he’s essential by any means.

          As for the bullpen, I’d like to see them move Papelbon and re-allocate that money to sign Soriano. If they could add Soriano and Downs along with Bard, the bullpen goes from their biggest weakness to maybe the best in baseball. I realize Papelbon won’t get much back in terms of value, but I think some team would take on his full salary on a one year gamble of a guy in a contract year and a chance at 2 draft picks at the end of the season. I wouldn’t be shocked if Papelbon has a real bounce back year, but I’d rather the Red Sox move on now and go after Soriano. If they move him, deal Dice-K and replace him with Doubront, the Red Sox would gain a lot of payroll flexibilty while perhaps getting better. Under that scenario, they could sign Downs, Soriano, Werth, and very possibly re-up Beltre and Vmart while maintaining the same payroll as 2010. But of course none of this will happen lol.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Every now and then I hear about the idea of trading Papelbon but it really comes down to who? Many of the teams who can afford him have an established closer and many teams looking for a closer would probably want a cheaper option.

          • start_wearing_purple 5 years ago

            Every now and then I hear about the idea of trading Papelbon but it really comes down to who? Many of the teams who can afford him have an established closer and many teams looking for a closer would probably want a cheaper option.

  3. nesportsfan 5 years ago

    What about Rich Hill?

  4. nesportsfan 5 years ago

    What about Rich Hill?

  5. JDortmunder 5 years ago

    MCDonald’s ok but I’m not sure what kind of options they’ll have on him next year. If they can’t send him to aaa occasionally, I don’t know how long he’d last on this roster?

  6. mrsjohnmiltonrocks 5 years ago

    I’m not surprised that Rich Hill and the Red Sox are in talks. I got the sense from everything I read about his DFA was more about needing his roster spot than not really wanting to keep him around, at least for left handed depth.

  7. redsox4120 5 years ago

    If the Sox were to have a fifth outfielder on the roster, I’d personally prefer to see Kalish there. However, Darnell would be my second choice. He can play all OF positions with plus D, gives you some speed and a pretty good bat off the bench. He’d also be a nice option to have if someone gets hurt. Plus, everyone in Boston seems to love him and he seems to love Boston. Why not bring him back? He’d be pretty darn cheap as well. But as JDortmunder pointed out, he probably won’t have those options to allow him to be bounced from AAA to MLB. Therefore he’ll have to play his butt off with the time he does get so he can prove his worth on the Sox roster.

  8. BoSoXaddict 5 years ago

    I think D-Mac played well enough this year that he will get a starting OF or 4th OF gig somewhere. Even if the Sox were to trade Ellsbury, with Drew, Cameron, Kalish, Reddick and the possibility of Crawford or Weth coming in to the fold I don’t see a spot for D-Mac, much as I’d like to give him one.

    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 5 years ago

      He was a bit of a life saver there for awhile, wasn’t he?

      I think they try to keep him, but not at the expense of upgrading the outfield. They ought to be able to make a low level deal for him. White Sox, Dodgers, Indians, Astros, are all a little light on outfielders at the moment.

  9. Potrzeba 5 years ago

    2011 outfield for the red sox
    LF- Crawford
    CF- kemp
    RF-drew

    Cameron is the 4th outfielder, kalish will begin the year In AAA, ellsbury will be traded.

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