Tigers In Serious Talks With Adam Dunn

2:04pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets that a source says talk about Dunn going to the Tigers is "way too premature." Detroit likes the first baseman/outfielder/DH, but they're not that far along in talks.

12:42pm: Adam Dunn is moving closer to a deal, maybe with the Tigers, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York PostSI's Jon Heyman tweets that Dunn and the Tigers are in serious talks, but big man is not close to an agreement with any team.  The powerful left-handed slugger is known to be among Detroit's targets.  He could fit as their regular left fielder, perhaps getting the occasional start at DH or first base.  The Tigers have been aggressive so far this offseason, and to secure Dunn this early they'd probably have to guarantee four years.


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144 Comments on "Tigers In Serious Talks With Adam Dunn"


LiveFastCyYoung
4 years 9 months ago

I want Dunn but what the hell are the Tigers going to do with Guillen now? I think this definitely says Magglio is gone.

4 years 9 months ago

Guillen will see a lot of time at the DL position.

Guillen will likely see time at LF and 2B when healthy. You can’t really count on him starting 150 games anymore.

4 years 9 months ago

You cant count on him to start 150 innings anymore…

4 years 9 months ago

The Tigers essentially spread Guillen’s contract out another year when they added a fourth year to his deal. His agent was using Miguel Tejada as the benchmark, and he was a shortstop at the time. That only lasted a year, which instantly made Carlos over- paid. The right number for him was 39- 42 mil over three years, but they went to 48 and four. So just take whatever the team can get from him in 2011 and consider it gravy on the cake. When he’s healthy, he can still handle a bat. But Dunn can’t handle a glove no matter how healthy he gets.

snapcase8p
4 years 9 months ago

Pls Pls Pls do not sign Dunn. He is a lifetime .231 hitter with RISP. That’s not protection. And for all of you that are going to say “yeah but he walks 100 times.” That just means its going to take 2 hits minimum to drive him in. Even with a ball in the gap he’s only getting to third. Not to mention his highest hit total in a season is 151. Fork over the extra 8 mil or so a year for Crawford slot him into the 3 hole and resign Magg or VMart for 5th. Step it up Cubs before the Tigers do something stupid. We will regret signing Dunn if it happens.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

I think it was kind of their plan going in that Guillen would be used as a supersub in between DL stints. If that doesn’t work he could be traded (tigers pay almost his entire salary) or straight up released. The tigers have shown in the past that they’re not scared to eat bad contracts.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I knew he’d sign a deal with an AL team…I want to see them get this done.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

Who cares what they do with Guillen lol. Who would you rather have, Maggs or Dunn? Add V-Mart to the mix and we are all set, except for the manager of course. Leyland will probably still bat Sizemore in the 3 hole lol.

Wockenfuss
4 years 9 months ago

I think the market, more than anything, determined that Maggs would be gone.

snapcase8p
4 years 9 months ago

Pls Pls Pls do not sign Dunn. No more slow station to station runners. He is a lifetime .231 batter RISP. Hardly what you would call protection. Fork over the 8 mil. more a year for Crawford. Slot him into 3 hole and resign Maggs for 5th or VMart. Whatever you do, just don’t sign Dunn. It will be a bad move. Step it up Cubs before the Tigers do something stupid.

$1529282
4 years 9 months ago

Well let’s see, they gave Joaquin Benoit 3/16.5…. so an Adam Dunn contract will probably be something like 9/200. :)

ToledoFan
4 years 9 months ago

LOL, seriously though, I see a deal ranging from 4/48 to 4/60 for him.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

I’m thinking 4 year 75-80

4 years 9 months ago

You two are nuts if those are serious proposals. At least I hope you are. He’s a DH for us, nothing higher than 3/40 for him and I’d be pretty angry.

Natinals
4 years 9 months ago

If you dont go higher than 3/40 youre not gonna get him. He wants four years

jphenix2002
4 years 9 months ago

get ready to be angry nick the Tigers have to overpay to nab FA’s. 4 years and 75 mil is ridiculous though

4 years 9 months ago

Cabrera and Dunn back to back is scary !

4 years 9 months ago

Like Stephen King scary.

the_show
4 years 9 months ago

And the tigers will still suck, they need pitching

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

How do you figure? Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Coke, Oliver/Turner/Gallarraga/free agent or trade isn’t bad at all.

the_show
4 years 9 months ago

Porcello sucks Detroit fans continue to over hype that guy

Gallarga isn’t good

The tigers do not have great starting pitching plain and simple

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

What are you, a disgruntled White Sox Fan lol? Switch to decafe dude.

chreeschan
4 years 9 months ago

Porcello is 21 years old and just finished his second major league season. Most prospects are older than him. I’d say he’s doing pretty well.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t think you can write off Porcello that quickly.. if he finished top 10 in Cy young voting next year i dont think any one would be shocked, he has filthy stuff, last year was just a hiccup on a count of being rushed through the minors so quickly..

He’s still 22 and bonafide stud.

the_show
4 years 9 months ago

I didn’t know you can suck and be labeled a “stud”

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

//The tigers do not have great starting pitching plain and simple//

This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten Justin Verlander?

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten that Verlander pitches just once every five days?

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten that Scherzer was even better than Verlander for much of last season?

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

Ok, so the Tigers had a mediocre starting rotation when Scherzer was good in the second half of 2010.

WOOHOO!

Three points here:

1. Detroit hasn’t signed Dunn yet.

2. Big offense doesn’t equal a winner.

3. Let’s see some consistency from Porcello and Scherzer before we go nuts over them.

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

Scherzer was pretty consistent after his Toledo stint.

And Porcello improved in the second half, as well, and has all the talent in the world. It’s not that unrealistic to expect him to rebound from his ’10 season.

4 years 9 months ago

The Tigers team ERA was 12th out of 14 in the league.
The rotation ERA was 11th of 14 in the league.
I like the top three, although Porcello is still a work in progress. If they think that moving Phil Coke from the pen is all that they need to do, I think that’s foolish, but I have to believe that some sort of upgrade for the rotation is in order, considering that $ 34 million was allocated to starting pitchers that are gone. The Tigers still need help in the rotation

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

How is Justin Verlander not a great starting pitcher?

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

I never said he wasn’t.

I just implied that there’s a huge difference between having “great starting pitchING” and having one “great starting pitchER”.

Hoosierdaddy92
4 years 9 months ago

Verlander is great. Scherzer is great, and Porcello is pretty good and has the potential to be great. Oliver, Crosby, Turner, Furbush, Smyly all represent potentially great future top-mid rotation starters. The Tigers don’t need to spend money on pitching. It’s on the way.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Lol. Way to give up on a 22-year old because of a sub-par second season…

jphenix2002
4 years 9 months ago

This guy is a joke, dont take him seriously. I do agree that Galarraga is average at best though.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Don’t get me wrong I do too. Just saying there are options for open competition among the young guys and gallaraga.

4 years 9 months ago

But they just signed Joaquin Benoit! :)

kaf64
4 years 9 months ago

NOoooo! The A’s need Dunn’s power. Beane better start multitasking.

not_brooks
4 years 9 months ago

Dunn is about the only power hitter on the FA market whose power would translate to McAfee.

I’d love to see Adrian Beltre in green and gold, since he’s essentially Big Kouz with a bat, but I wouldn’t count on much more than his Seattle numbers in that stadium.

Of course, I wouldn’t want to see Dunn at first over Barton and the outfield is way to crowded. So I wouldn’t expect the A’s to make a serious run at Dunn unless he actually is willing to DH 75% of the time.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

I hope you’re right Timmy. Don’t toy with my emotions.

4 years 9 months ago

You hope Sherman and Heyman are right…they’re the ones with the scoop.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

True. Don’t worry I won’t kill the messenger.

rwdavis22461
4 years 9 months ago

Dave Kingman of the 21st century with Dunn in LF he better hit 50 hrs he be letting in 50 extra runs in LF . lol

4 years 9 months ago

Ever seen Raburn/Guillen out there? I’m used to the ball landing in left field anyway, at least Dunn can hit.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Very true comment. I hate when people on here talk about Raburn like he is a defensive improvement over even Ordonez. Raburn is the worst major league player I have ever seen at picking up fly balls off the bat.

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

Raburn is an adventure in the outfield.

4 years 9 months ago

Adam Dunn makes Ryan Raburn look like Carl Crawford in left field.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Is he worse out there than Marcus Thames? I actually thought Thames was better in the field than Raburn.

RiverKKiller999
4 years 9 months ago

No no no not LF.. Put him in CF lol…

4 years 9 months ago

That would be an interesting lineup. Do you put Cabrera in the 3 hole now if it happens?

rbeezy
4 years 9 months ago

I still think they want Maggs back as long as it is reasonable and healthy to play RF. The line up would be a contender:

Jackson
Sizemore
Ordonez
Cabrera
Dunn
Raburn
Peralta
Inge
Avila

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

Why do you put sizemore in the two hole, because as per Leylands style, we need an automatic out somewhere hitting in front of Miggy? Either Maggs or Guillen could hit out of the two hole and Miggy in the 3 hole. I think the Tigers are still going to sign V-Mart.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

If Dunn and VMart end up on the tigers, Ordonez is gone. Guillen can be in the 2 hole for the 45 games he is healthy.

melonis_rex
4 years 9 months ago

Dunn and Magglio in the same outfield? Austin Jackson can’t cover all that empty range.

Motor_City_Bombshell
4 years 9 months ago

If they nab Dunn…he better be the DH. I will not stand for his horrid defense patrolling right or left, especially in the spacious Comerica Park.

That said, the Tigers have been getting busy the past couple hours. I’m loving it.

caseyo4
4 years 9 months ago

Dunn+Crawford would be the real coup…

4 years 9 months ago

If they really plan on putting Dunn in the field, we need another speedster on the opposite side to allow for Jackson to play more left-center to cover Dunn.

4 years 9 months ago

How about Crawford in left center, Jackson in right center, and Dunn in foul territory with explicit instructions to never enter the field of play.

Pawsdeep
4 years 9 months ago

That sounds about right!

Tigerfan93
4 years 9 months ago

Not an unreasonable thought either. Longshot, yes. Impossible, HELL NO

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

Noooo, that can’t happen. I’d have a heart attack from the AWESOME.

4 years 9 months ago

DETROIT BE CRAZY YO.

ToledoFan
4 years 9 months ago

Interesting development. I had thought that if the Tigers were trying hard to sign Victor Martinez, that getting a full time DH would be out of the question because of the need to rest VMart often, yet keep his bat in the lineup. Perhaps they are less eager to sign VMart because the Red Sox will now go all out to keep their catcher, and the Tigers don’t want to go that high on Vmart? So either the Tigers are going away from Vmart or they really do intend for him to take on full time catching duties, which if you ask me, is a big risk. This is of course assuming that Dunn will be a DH. I suppose you could play him in LF, but that will be scary. Either way, Guillen is certainly now destined for a platoon roll at 2B/DH/LF. Defense could be an issue though.
Peralta SS
Guillen 2B
Dunn LF
Martinez C.
Tiger pitcher better bring their A game on those days.

4 years 9 months ago

It’s looking like we are wanting a new 2B (as is apparent by going for Uggla). I wouldn’t be shocked if we went after a pitching and 2B combo in a big trade. I’m willing to also say that I think that 2B will be a defensive type of player.

mistermonkey
4 years 9 months ago

Orlando Hudson is expected to become a free agent — he signed with the Twins last year for only $5M for one year. That would be a pretty nice upgrade from what the Tigers have and fairly inexpensive — and he’s a switch hitter, as well.

I mean, this wouldn’t suck, and it’s totally doable, and they’d still have $$ left over:

CF Jackson
2B Hudson
LF Crawford
1B Cabrera
DH Dunn
SS Peralta
RF Raburn/Boesch
3B Inge
C Avila

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Hudson would be a really good fit. That lineup makes me drool, don’t think Dunn and Crawford would happen though.

dskirsa
4 years 9 months ago

If the Tigers are willing to spend so much on Benoit, then they should be more than willing to give some cash to V Mart.

mistermonkey
4 years 9 months ago

I doubt Guillen plays 2B this year. He’s coming off another leg surgery. In fact, he’s a prime candidate to get flat-out released, like Sheffield did two years ago. At any rate, counting on him at all seems like a mistake.

4 years 9 months ago

I’m with you dude, if we get Dunn I don’t want V Mart anymore. We can’t be investing that much in essentially three guys than can play like 1.5 positions.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

If Dunn is playing in the field I think it’s more likely that he would be in RF.

ToledoFan
4 years 9 months ago

Hell no. RF at Comerica is larger than LF. RF is where you stick Crawford or Werth if you get them, or you go with Raburn or Boesch if you don’t. You need guys who can MOVE patrolling RF. As good a fielder as Ordonez was, he still had problems from time to time track balls down out there.

williswinning
4 years 9 months ago

For those wondering what to do with Maggs, I say sign him for DH. He is still better than most options out there, and we could get him reasonably cheap. Plus you have Guillen that I would put in the Omar Infante role that he had for Atlanta last season.

Pawsdeep
4 years 9 months ago

He is still the best overall FA RF on the market IMO. Putting mags in right field isn’t crazy, it makes perfect sense

williswinning
4 years 9 months ago

Yeah, but if we get Dunn only one can play RF, Dunn or Maggs can not cover LF. At least I don’t think so.

Pawsdeep
4 years 9 months ago

Dunn DH, mags in right. Makes perfect sense

You’d have mags, cabbie, Dunn as the 3-4-5. They would be offensive juggernauts.

williswinning
4 years 9 months ago

Well might make sense to us, but not to Dunn. He will not sign a contract to be a DH.

Pawsdeep
4 years 9 months ago

Then he better be willing to take a pay cut because no one is going to sign him for his glove.

williswinning
4 years 9 months ago

LOL, true but the 35 HR’s and 100 RBI’s he will get will make up for it.

4 years 9 months ago

Mags can cover LF a whole lot better than Dunn!

williswinning
4 years 9 months ago

Either can cover it better than Billy Mays aka Raburn

4 years 9 months ago

Just what the Tigs need, another 200 Ks. Makes sense with the signing of Inge (139 SO avg/yr) and Peralta (142 SO AVG/YR). Cabrera, Dunn is scary? What is scary is thinking about Dunn running around the outfield Comerica Park. Austin Jackson will have to play Left-Center all the time. Longtime Tigers fan who would veto the hell out of this signing if I had any say. Why not go after Crawford? He can do everything Dunn can’t do which is everything but HRs? He is who we need.

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

I am not so worried about Dunn’s defense. Is it awful? Yes. But we didn’t exactly have a gold glover at the corners with Maggs, Raburn, or Guillen anyways. Dunn brings 40 home runs, close to 100 RBI, around 100 walks, and he does it all from the left side of the plate. I have been wanting to get Dunn for years, heres to hoping we finally get ahold of him.

4 years 9 months ago

The 40 HRs, 100RBI, 100 walks from the left side is a legitimate plus and something the Tigs need, but what he lacks can’t be overlooked. First, Dunn doesn’t want to be a DH but he isn’t suited to play ANY position. Will he be a cancer in the clubhouse if he doesn’t play the field? Second, if he does play LF as this article suggests there will be routine outs that will become hits and singles turned to doubles and doubles to triples while he is trudging around the outfield. He isn’t worth it in my opinion and if he gets overpaid like the Tigs have done so far with their signings, it is a big mistake. Put the money into the best talent and get an all-around player. Crawford fits Detroit perfectly and he can do it all (except HRs). He can hit the gaps and run forever, get on base for Cabrera, steal bases, score runs, and play great defense in one of the biggest outfields in the MLB. Dunn is not only a detriment in the field but also on base. He is a double play waiting to happen. Walks don’t mean much if you don’t get to second base. My opinion: Sign CC to play LF and VMart to DH/C. Wishful thinking? You’re damn right, but don’t sink $12M on a guy who strikes out 200 times a year and can’t play a position.

4 years 9 months ago

Dunn in the OF should scare you. He’s by most metrics considered one of the worst OFers of all time. He basically cancels out most of his value when you put him in an OF corner. I wouldn’t mind the signing but he’s got to be in a 1B/DH platoon with Cabby.

penpaper
4 years 9 months ago

Dunn provides protect for Cabrera no matter how many times he strikeouts. I do agree that playing him in the OF often isn’t a good idea but every 1-2 a week shouldn’t be a problem.

4 years 9 months ago

If Dunn goes to DET, Victor is back in Boston

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

Not necessarily. You never know how deep Mr. Illitch will reach into his pockets. A DH/C and DH/RF/LF could still fit into an everyday lineup.

Tom
4 years 9 months ago

His pockets aren’t so deep now that he has the Pistons as well…

verlander
4 years 9 months ago

Ilitch hasn’t bought the Pistons yet.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

It’s going to happen eventually though.

4 years 9 months ago

Yeah, I too would not count him out just yet. He said he wanted to get 2 of the big 4 available.

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

Texas

4 years 9 months ago

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!!!

rwdavis22461
4 years 9 months ago

I will say i respect Dunn he is a very good if not great player year in year out to jack out 40 hrs legitly and his fielding is ok not terrible i was teasing. come on Tigers fans have a sense of humor. I am a Mets fan i do . lol

tigers22
4 years 9 months ago

OH HECK YEAH

Wockenfuss
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t think they are done even if they sign Adam Dunn. Crawford will be the next target. I would also like them to go after a veteran starter coming off a bad year such as a Kevin Millwood or Aaron Harrang type. I also think Rayburn, Galarraga, Oliver, etc. could be used in a trade for pitching as well.

If they get Dunn and Crawford, it’s a pretty nice lineup:

A. Jackson – CF
C. Crawford – LF
R. Raburn – RF
Miggy – 1B
A. Dunn – DH
J. Peralta – SS
A. Avila – C
B. Inge – 3B
C. Guillen platoon w/ Sizemore or Rhymes – 2B

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

I’d love to sign Harang to a cheap deal to be the #5 starter. Coming off a few bad years, but he’s an innings eater.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

Why bat Raburn in the 3 hole? Just because Leyland has gotten you use to his style of putting an automatic out in front of Miggy, lol? Move em all up one spot and put Miggy in the 3 hole.

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

Since when is Magglio an automatic out?

4 years 9 months ago

Pretty simple Yoda, this is the lineup during the 6 weeks next season when Raburn is one of the top 5 hitters in the league. For the other 7 months of the season, Raburn will hit 7th/8th.

YODA777
4 years 9 months ago

I guess you have a crystal ball as to when Raburn will hit and when he
wont? How many games are you willing to lose with this experiment?

4 years 9 months ago

I was kidding. I was merely pointing out that Raburn is ridiculously streaky.

airohpue13
4 years 9 months ago

LOL. Raburn batting 3rd…how quickly people forget that he batted like .180 in the first half last year.

Pawsdeep
4 years 9 months ago

As a platoon player. Look at his BA when he plays an everyday role over the last 3 years. He hit over 300 with an obs of 700 in over 60 games in that stretch as an everyday player.