Marlins Intend To Trade Uggla

After breaking off extension talks and gauging interest in their second baseman, the Marlins now plan to trade Dan Uggla, writes Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Marlins are "down the road" in discussions with a few teams and could make a deal within the next week, according to Rosenthal's source. Rosenthal identifies the Nationals, Tigers, Braves, and Blue Jays as potential suitors who are in on the 30-year-old.

When Rosenthal ran down the list of teams who could have interest in Uggla, he noted that not every club would view the Marlin as a second baseman. Many teams with question marks at third base are considering making a play for Uggla. Meanwhile, Rosenthal indicates the Cubs and Angels are among the teams who don't have interest in acquiring Uggla, despite having a need for offense.

Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post believes that Uggla and the Marlins could still agree on an extension, but concedes that the two sides are currently "very bitter at each other." He expects Florida to actively shop Uggla at this week's GM meetings, though he suggests the team will be demanding a significant return (all Twitter links).


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162 Comments on "Marlins Intend To Trade Uggla"


HerbertAnchovy
4 years 9 months ago

I’m hoping if he comes to The Blue Jays it’s at 3B. I think he would be a lot more suitable there.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Possibly…But I fear that if he can’t play 2B defensively, how much better will he do at 3B?

With that said here are the trade ideas that I have in mind…

Blue Jays: Carlos Perez/Brad Emaus/Danny Farquahar
Tigers: Brayan Villareal/Ryan Perry/Fernando Martinez
Nationals: Brad Peacock/Derek Norris
Twins: Ben Revere/Anthony Slama
Braves: Brett Oberholtzer/Randall Delgado/Jordan Schaefer
Angels: Fabio Martinez Mesa/Hank Conger
Cubs: Brett Jackson/Hak Ju Lee
Rockies: Esmil Rogers/Christian Friedrich/Charlie Blackmon
Red Sox: Casey Kelly/Oscar Tejeda
Cardinals: Niko Vasquez/D’Marcus Ingram/Jason Motte

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

i sincerely doubt the red sox give up Kelly.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Uggla’s a Type A and Kelly is very overrated. With that said, their still needs to be one top prospect or Major League piece in any deal.

marlinsfanatic
4 years 9 months ago

I agree Uggla is underrated too.

$1529282
4 years 9 months ago

Agreed. Casey Kelly alone is worth more than Revere + Slama. I think there’s a pretty wide range of value among all of those packages. I highly doubt the Cubs are interested in moving Jackson anywhere either.

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 9 months ago

I think he’d at least be a bit sounder at 3B. I don’t know that him coming to Toronto is a great idea regardless.

4 years 9 months ago

Delgado is just a shade less untouchable for the Braves than Teheran is. We’re not giving him up for someone who may just be a one-year rental.

NYBravosFan10
4 years 9 months ago

I doubt the Marlins would want Schafer and I don’t blame them. I would think that Mycal Jones or Cody Johnson would be better options. You’re dead on with Oberholtzer and Delgado though.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Thanks.

Jones would be interesting. They already have Ozzie Martinez who is blocked. But I guess you assume Jones is an OF?

NYBravosFan10
4 years 9 months ago

no, mycal jones is an infielder whom I believe can play 2nd, ss and 3rd. I don’t know much about the Marlins farm system so I don’t really know who is blocking who

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Well I thought he was a 3B/SS as well but they could use him at 3B soon. Just not SS which he told me he wants to play at the Major League level.

42214221
4 years 9 months ago

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4 years 9 months ago

I like Uggla, but not sure he is worth trading for to make a 1B, for the Nats. I guess Espinosa could be part of the deal, and play him at 2B. But that doesn’t make sense to me.

arkeen
4 years 9 months ago

He’s a great fit in San Francisco and is very good friends with Cody Ross.

Reaper87
4 years 9 months ago

See I personally think he is not a great fit, based on what it will take to get him. He’s a free agent after 2011, so we’d be giving 2-3 of our best prospects away for 1 year of Uggla, with the hope they can re-sign him after, and we may not have the money to do so. If we get him, I’d like to wait until hes a free agent and make a play if we have the funds

YourBase
4 years 9 months ago

Plus, I don’t like his defense and I don’t want to lose any of our good prospects. We won last year and we still have Freddy for a year.

Friscofan101
4 years 9 months ago

Ugla is no use to us until next year when fredy won’t be there.

4 years 9 months ago

I wonder if he could be a corner outfield option for the Tigers….

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

Braves in LF? I don’t know about the defense, but I’d sure love the bat. Would fit great behind McCann and in front of Freeman. Maybe they could take McLouth off our hands for him?(just kidding) But they seem to have no outfield; Maybin and Ross traded, Coughland’s a 3B now. Mike Stanton seems to be the only lock.

4 years 9 months ago

Morrison and Stanton in the outfield is a pretty good start.

MetsEventually
4 years 9 months ago

Thank god.

4 years 9 months ago

Prado plays the outfield almost every year in winter leagues. i’d be willing to bet he goes to left if the braves can pull this off. it’s obviously going to cost one of those top pitching prospects that the braves have (teheran, vizcaino, delgado, minor, beachy). as a braves fan, it’ll be hard seeing one of those guys face us 3-4 times per year, but uggla would fill a big hole that the braves have had for ages.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

2nd base is more of an elite defensive position than LF. We need better defense on our terrible infield. Prado would stay put, Uggla would go to LF. And I don’t think it would take a top prospect, but a package of mid level prospects. Beachy is a nice starting point, considering they want a better bullpen.

4 years 9 months ago

there’s no way that a few mid-level prospects would get uggla. the marlins could just keep him and pick up 2 draft picks next year. if it’s beachy, minor, delgado, or vizcaino, there’ll need to be another top 10-20 prospect and a throw in. uggla will not come cheap. i’d bet my life on it.

bobby spoke often last year about prado’s versatility saying that he could play 1st, 2nd, 3rd, lf, or rf. uggla has never played outfield. i’d also bet my life that prado goes to left. however,the braves could shop him for a cost-controlled outfielder. i love prado and his grit, but he probably is at peak value right now.

azdsnd
4 years 9 months ago

Prado would stay at second, Uggla would temporarily move to the OF, and then move to third when Chipper retires or his body falls apart again.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

I think Prado would move to 3rd before Uggla would. Prado’s a natural 3B.

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Have you seen Prado’s numbers at second? Not that impressive. Prado is still better than Uggla at second though. Beachy is the 6th starter, so don’t expect him to be traded.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

We have plenty of 6th starters in the minors. Beachy is a luxury at this point. And his stock is pretty high. Beachy, Mike Dunn, and a couple of of B prospects. Beggars cannot be choosers. The main point of them trading Uggla is to get some bodies in return for the $10m salary relief. If they cared solely on his money, it would be a non-tender. If they cared solely on the bodies they get in return, they’d let him walk as a free agent and get the draft picks.

stl_cards16
4 years 9 months ago

When you have a 2B very capable of hitting 30 HR’s you can be a “chooser” I would expect a minimum of 10 teams that would have serious interest in trading for Uggla. They will have plenty of offers to choose from. And as you said, they can get 2 draft picks for him, that only improves his value.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

I highly doubt any teams with a huge hole at 2B are going to take on a $10m bad defensive 2B for only 1 year and sell the farm to do so.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

who said anything about selling the farm for him? i doubt you have to go to that extreme. This isn’t a Roy Halladay/mark teixeria player. he is good, but he isn’t a superstar.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

The guy all the way at the top that was talking about the Braves trading one or more of the best pitching prospects in the game and our top prospects.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

beachy and dunn? seriously? that is anything but selling the farm.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

Did you not read correctly? The guy mentioned trading Teharen, Vizcaino, Delgado, and/or Minor.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

ok, i read the wrong thing. But so did you. The guy at the very top said “one of” their top pitching prospects. not the entire minor league pitching core.

BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

And, out of those 6th starters are ready for the majors? None.

4 years 9 months ago

Front office has indicated that Teheran could be up in 2011 if there’s an injury and he keeps putting up those crazy numbers. He’s the closest, although he’s pretty much untouchable.

I think if the Braves try this, they’ll go with Minor as the center piece. Minor, Infante, and maybe Bethancourt, considering the Braves have McCann locked up and the lack of depth the Marlins have at catcher. I think that could get it done. Gives the Marlins a promising starter, a 2nd baseman, and a decent catching prospect.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

I think they have Minor penciled in as 5th starter next year. They need a lefty in the rotation. Beachy is more likely. Medlen would be a great trade chip if he wasn’t hurt.

marlinsfanatic
4 years 9 months ago

Beachy? The Marlins are demanding high so they would most likely ask for Minor, Delgado, or Vizciano for a start. I personally wouldn’t trade him within division but Braves and Nationals have best prospects out of the teams listed.

NL_East_Rivalry
4 years 9 months ago

Minor, Delgado, Vizciano? That’s the problem with trades these days. It’s either junk for junk or untouchables for 1 year rentals. If it starts with Delgado or Vizciano, there wont be anything else (good) added in.

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Brandon Woodworth
4 years 9 months ago

Exactly what I’m trying to say.

4 years 9 months ago

Medlen would be perfect, but yeah. Minor is in the rotation for next year, but he’s the most likely of the starters to get traded. Beachy doesn’t have much value, he’d be a throw-in in most deals.

Hudson, Hanson, Lowe, Jurrjens, Beachy/Kawakami…….I could live with that if they can get a .350+ OBP and 30 HR guy in the middle of the lineup.

roberty
4 years 9 months ago

No way the braves trade Minor for 1 year of Uggla.

4 years 9 months ago

People need to remember how petty FLA owner Jeffrey Loria is. He was the only stop on the Cox retirement tour not to acknowledge Cox because of how Cox called out Loria for firing now the Braves manager, Fredi Gonzalez. If they did trade him to us, they’d only do it because we offer them a much better package than the rest of the league, which is possible. I just wonder about the financial end of re-signing Uggla. He turned down a 4-year extension from FLA averaging $12M per year. Not sure if ATL could do much better with the uncertainty of Chipper, Lowe coming back, and Hudson. Do you think the guy that attacked Nancy Kerrigan is decently priced for Chipper? (Authorities: I’m joking.)

roberty
4 years 9 months ago

And he would fill it for one year. Not worth it.

Dan
4 years 9 months ago

It’d be sweet if the red sox got Uggla for third. He’d be a beast at Fenway.

mattchu12
4 years 9 months ago

My thoughts exactly. He’d be cheaper than Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder, but he would be just as good playing at Fenway Park as either of them. Perfect fit. As a Yankee Fan, this makes me sad inside.

danthebaseballman
4 years 9 months ago

same with me,since i’m a yankee fan

4 years 9 months ago

Dan Uggla would be just as good as Adrian Gonzalez? WOWWWWWWWW

YourBase
4 years 9 months ago

LOL

mattchu12
4 years 9 months ago

With the way that Uggla would use the Green Monster? Gonzalez would be about the same, hitting away from Petco’s benefits would be weighted down by the better pitching in the AL. Meanwhile, Uggla would explode the way Mike Lowell did, except Uggla is a better hitter than Lowell ever was, so you do the math.

4 years 9 months ago

The AL doesn’t have better pitching.

fishfan4life
4 years 9 months ago

He’s already a beast :)

syphercx
4 years 9 months ago

He is going to the Cardinals for a signed Stan Musial cap.

ellisburks
4 years 9 months ago

Red Sox 3B? Thoughts?

JST1331
4 years 9 months ago

I truly feel bad for Marlins fans. Once again their franchise traded away a great player.

4 years 9 months ago

Once again? It hasn’t even happened yet.

JST1331
4 years 9 months ago

Assuming he will, then my comment would imply.

azdsnd
4 years 9 months ago

I don’t. The Marlins have demonstrated time and again that they know how to run their franchise. The 1997 and 2003 World Series wins are proof that the last thing you need to feel towards Marlins fans is pity… just ask the Cubs.

4 years 9 months ago

Speaking as a Marlins fan, I’m not going to be terribly upset if we trade him as long as the return is good. We offered him a fair deal and he turned it down. I don’t blame the Marlins for not wanting to give him that 5th year.

YourBase
4 years 9 months ago

I agree. The guy is already 30, can hit, but, not a strong fielder. 12 million a year for 4 years sounded good to me. I mean, he’s no Chase Utley.

fishfan4life
4 years 9 months ago

They offered a fair long term deal and he turned it down. This isn’t another “fire sale” move.

4 years 9 months ago

Would love him at 3B for the Jays. No idea what kind of package it would take.

danthebaseballman
4 years 9 months ago

i would say starting pitching,like marcum,or romero since the jays have depth with drabek and rzepcynski

4 years 9 months ago

Romero for a year of Dan Uggla? Yeah no.

machine_beard
4 years 9 months ago

How bout Rzepczinsky, Accardo, Eric Thames and Henderson Alvarez for Uggla and Leo Nunez

4 years 9 months ago

Done. I was thinking Zach Stewart + Thames for Uggla.

Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

I wish… would love that trade but I doubt it.

I don’t really see why the Jays would need Uggla. He is a great player and all but he would just be a rental and Jays really need to address their lead-off position more than anything IMO.

danthebaseballman
4 years 9 months ago

The jays could re-sign him on a long-term contract.

mozelpuffski
4 years 9 months ago

rzep for uggla straight up and i would consider if i was AA

marlinsfanatic
4 years 9 months ago

Are you crazy? A 25 year old pitcher thats ERA was almost 5 for Dan Uggla? That’s a negative % chance of happening.

4 years 9 months ago

In how many starts? It is about upside with young pitchers. If you have 10 starts, and the Yanks and Sox each beat you up one time, you’re going to have a ballooned ERA. It’s hardly indicative of a players caliber.

mozelpuffski
4 years 9 months ago

a young controllable arm with mid rotation potential. last year was a bit rough for him starting with hand issues from line drive in spring training. got healthy but 5th spot was his till he got hurt. in 09, avg a k an inning with mid 3 era in roughly same amount of innings as this year. uggla is on his way out and marlins and all of us know it too.

4 years 9 months ago

If the Tigers get him, he and Jhonny Peralta would form the worst defensive middle infield in baseball…. but they could really benefit from his bat.

danthebaseballman
4 years 9 months ago

True.

SneakyLongBalls
4 years 9 months ago

The Uggla Blue Jays Formula
Package of players + contract commitment + age = not what Jays are looking for
Rather move prospect for prospect and get the 3 bagger the Jays want.

4 years 9 months ago

Not a lot of high-upside young 3B available. Grab Uggla if you don’t have to overpay, if Jays tank in first half – flip him at deadline.

OklahomaBrave
4 years 9 months ago

The Braves need to be all over this and work out an extension. His 30 bombs from the right side would overlook his possible defense liability in left for a year or two. We had GA in left and a combo of Diaz/Hinske there last year. He could slide in at 3rd for chip when he calls it quits. We will be needing a 3rd baseman and there’s not much depth there in the system.

dizzle4
4 years 9 months ago

I’d be leery of signing him with the intention of moving him to left field. Not that he couldn’t do it (I really have no clue if he could), but it’s a big transition for a guy you’re getting for one year, and expecting to make a big impact in that year.

BraveNewWorld
4 years 9 months ago

Would be nice, but trading within the division would cost us. They’d probably want more of a haul then let’s say trading them to a team in the AL. He’s a nice guy to have around, I’m just not sold on giving up top prospects for him.

OklahomaBrave
4 years 9 months ago

I agree that trading with the Marlins would cost us more I just don’t see a better option. Braun’s not going anywhere and I’m tired of the Pat Burrell types. If Chip were to retire then we could be in on Crawford/Werth but that’s not happening. We have a lot of depth at pitching prospects and we could stand to lose a vizcaino and some mid level pieces.

gamehawk
4 years 9 months ago

Uggla would stay put at 2nd and Prado would move over to 3rd(his natural position) when chipper steps down or gets hurt.

roberty
4 years 9 months ago

Why not wait until he is a free agent?

4 years 9 months ago

I think Uggs would be a good fit for the Rangers or Red Sox who need help at the either corner position. Sure he doesn’t have the pop or defensive ability as Gonzalez, but I don’t think AGon will be going anywhere without mortgaging the entire farm. As a Yankee fan it would worry me more if the Rangers signed him which would make that offense even more powerful, but Uggla could go to town with the Green Monster as well. It’s going to be an interesting offseason to say the least.

4 years 9 months ago

Wait, why do the rangers need help at a corner position? I’m pretty sure they’re happy with Moreland and Young (even if his defense is apparently slipping)

4 years 9 months ago

I came to the assumption that the Rangers were looking for a first basemen after trading away Smoak, and since Chris Davis was performing poorly.

JaySchu
4 years 9 months ago

Mets please.

4 years 9 months ago

I don’t know what the Nats are looking for here, although Uggla is a good addition to a batting order. I suppose that Espinosa can go back to the minors for at least another year.

Redbirds16
4 years 9 months ago

I would think Uggla’s cost wouldn’t be high (this is essentially a salary dump), but with him being a fit for so many teams, his cost could go up a lot higher than he’s actually worth. Someone will overpay for his services. Hope it’s not my team. Although, admittedly, he would be a great pickup for the Birds.

The cost will likely be 2-3 solid prospects reflecting to his soon-to-be type A free agent status and then a 50+ million dollar contract. Uggla’s a great player, but the team that lands him is going to have to pay in both terms of prospects and money. Understanding that Uggla could be left to free agency and the money not being an essential factor, I don’t think clubs will be enticed to lose a good portion of their minor league talent for a rental player, even if 2 draft picks come back their way.

4 years 9 months ago

I don’t think it is a salary dump. The Marlins no longer think they can resign him, so they want to get some talent in return. They don’t want to lose him and have nothing to show for it. That seems importantly different then a salary dump, where the objective is offload a contract.

Redbirds16
4 years 9 months ago

An important point, for sure. Perhaps salary dump was not the correct term.

My point was the Marlins don’t seem to want to pay Uggla what he’s worth, whether for a 1-year arb or over a long-term contract. Or maybe Uggla really just doesn’t want to be in Florida, so he’s demanding an outrageous sum. Either way, that works against Florida in the trade negotiations. But what works for them is the fact that he could be a fit for so many teams. I still think someone is going to overpay for him.

mauerfan
4 years 9 months ago

Minnesota Twins