Stark On Greinke, Jeter, Phillies, Uggla

It's looking more and more likely that MLB will add a second wild card team to each league, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark. He also has the latest rumblings from around the league; here they are:

  • Clubs that have spoken to the Royals say Kansas City would only accept a bunch of front-line players for Zack Greinke. One of those players must be a pitcher with a Greinke-like ceiling, so GM Dayton Moore expects a lot for his ace.
  • Clubs that have checked in with the Royals believe Greinke would veto a deal to any major market East Coast team. However, one official says the pitcher “would at least think about the L.A. clubs.”
  • Joel Sherman of the New York Post recently suggested that the Yankees make Derek Jeter a Yankee for life with a 25-year contract that would keep him involved in the organization once his playing days end, but Stark hears that Jeter’s next deal will be “a baseball contract. Period.”
  • A Phillies source summed up the chances of Jayson Werth returning to Philadelphia concisely: "No chance. None. Zero.
  • "The Phillies are working aggressively to re-sign Jose Contreras, according to Stark.
  • GM Ruben Amaro Jr. told Stark that he has been working the phones this week. "We've made contact with 40 free agents, predominantly bullpen guys." He said. "Left-handed relief is a priority for us."
  • Teams that have contacted the Marlins about Dan Uggla see definite signs that if extension talks don’t go anywhere, the second baseman could soon become trade bait.


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121 Comments on "Stark On Greinke, Jeter, Phillies, Uggla"


4 years 9 months ago

I would love to see Zach in a Chicago Cubs uniform but I wonder two things:

1. The asking price.
2. Would he wilt under the pressure of a big market?

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

KC probably has a better chance of being a contender than the Cubs

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

When? Next year or in the future? Both would be wrong. The Cubs play in the worst division in baseball. It is up for grabs every year by 5 of the 6 teams.

EdinsonPickle
4 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t, not for the price. It will cost the Cubs best prospects, and they are in kind of a rebuilding phase right now. I’m positive they would ask for Vitters and Jackson. Would Moore want Castro as well?

Either way I don’t see it happening.

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

I doubt they would want Vitters at this point. SPAN has it about right. Lee, Archer, Jackson and Cashner. Way to much from the Cubs standpoint.

hawkny1
4 years 9 months ago

“When you wish upon a star”
“Makes no difference who you are”
“Your inviting, fires igniting, pockets tightening”
“Your big deal’s to much too frightening, from afar…”

j6takish
4 years 9 months ago

Greinke to Detroit? Anyone?

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

I would rather hold onto our prospects then sell the farm for Grienke. Verlander is a proven ace, Scherzer was phenomenal last season and Porcello deffinitly has ace potential. It would be a sick rotation but I’d rather hang onto our big pitching prospects (Turner, Oliver, Crosby, Furbish) who have high ceilings and are under team control.

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Turner is really the only guy there I’d hesitate to give up. Crosby has a bum elbow and Furbish and Oliver have limited ceilings. If the Tigers could give up any three prospects not named Turner, they would probably pull the trigger.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

the sort of package the royals are asking for made me think of the Rangers. Package centered around Derrek Holland and Julio Borbon, add maybe Alexi Ogando.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I was thinking Derek Holland/Martin Perez/Engel Beltre (a toolsy younger Borbon), and Jurrickson Profar.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

their is not a chance in this lifetime i would give up both Perez(even if he regressed this year) and Holland for Grienke. and you are adding Beltre? i’m not familiar with Jurrickson and Profar but they have awsome names.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Jurrickson Profar is one person.

myname_989
4 years 9 months ago

Even better, Jurickson Profar is one man.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I think he’s still a kid. I’m barely older than him he was born in ’93.

myname_989
4 years 9 months ago

Touche. Lol

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

93? Yeesh…let’s just say I have a diploma dated 1993. Won’t tell you which diploma that is though. haha.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Law School diploma? Can’t imagine you’d say no to that one. But nevertheless, you definetly know your Baseball.

yazpik
4 years 9 months ago

Ackley, Pineda, Franklin = No way
Ackley, Pineda = No way
Ackley= No way

Greinke is good but not the greatest pitcher ever, he´s not cheap, he has problems with the pressure…

Tko11
4 years 9 months ago

Greinke is so ridiculously overrated which is why I would love the Royals to trade him this offseason. It seems like his value is really high right now and Moore setting the bar high drives up the price even more.

4 years 9 months ago

I see the Reds as a great place… Leake, Wood, and Stubbs.

Ferrariman
4 years 9 months ago

wow! please let this package happen

timmytwoshoezzz
4 years 9 months ago

You want two years of Grienke at $13.5M per for three players with good upside, all making league minimum, and 16 years of total team control? No thanks.

Reds need a solid left fielder to either leadoff or drive in 100 runs. Their pitching is not an issue, let their young staff develop

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

“Leake, Wood, and Stubbs”

Please no. It would have to be centered around Mesoraco and Hamilton.

Yanks48
4 years 9 months ago

Wow, thats a great trade for the royals but not that good for reds

EdinsonPickle
4 years 9 months ago

Why?

timmytwoshoezzz
4 years 9 months ago

Because Hamilton is a switch hitting shortstop that stole nearly 50 bases in the Pioneer league. He’s flat out sick

EdinsonPickle
4 years 9 months ago

Brilliant, so let’s not trade him for Grienke.

4 years 9 months ago

There have been rumors of the Red Sox talking about making a run at Uggla and trying to move him to third. Personally I wouldnt want to go that route, but you never know.

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

A second wild card team hmm… Cool, now the playoffs will consist of 60% of the AL east every year!

moonraker45
4 years 9 months ago

How would it work though, an extra team would throw off the balance? I’m confused.

BlueCatuli
4 years 9 months ago

The two wild card teams would play a best of three, I believe.

ThinkBlue10
4 years 9 months ago

I was thinking that the team with the best record gets a bye. Thats the only way i can see it working with an extra wildcard team.

Beauford
4 years 9 months ago

OT : Mariner announcer Dave Niehaus passed away today.

EdinsonPickle
4 years 9 months ago

Just saw the news. Absolutely tragic. He was one of my favorite announcers. That really is a loss for the game of baseball.

coolstorybro222
4 years 9 months ago

Let’s have Matt Holliday for Grienke.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

i hope your kidding, there is no way the royals take on his contract(considering its probably the size of their entire payroll)

jth532
4 years 9 months ago

No way I would want to take on Holliday’s contract.

angel31
4 years 9 months ago

What about the Angels that we would think about! Maybe a trevor bell,trevor reckling and joel pienero? or a trevor bell, trevor reckling, and kaz with (65%) of contract?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Please, please tell me your kidding…

That package would hurt the Royals before helping them.

angel31
4 years 9 months ago

How about pienero, Dillion baird, Trevor bell and Randal Grichuck

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

What are the Royals supposed to do with Joel Piniero?

angel31
4 years 9 months ago

its a rental for only cheap money and can spark something cuz i doubt the angels would give up santana and i can only see them maybe doing a trade for pienero or kaz. unless they do a three team deal to get rid of pienero or kaz

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

No. Conger/Bourjos/Martinez Mesa/Jimenez/Richards. 3 of the 5.

angel31
4 years 9 months ago

that works for me, just not bourjous and conger. The others could be in the deal and maybe trevor bell or reckling, but they would probably have to do a three team deal or find a way to give them or someone Kazmir

vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Not even that gets it done IMO. Royals would start that conversation with Mike Trout and then within seconds, Dayton Moore would be getting a dial tone.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Well obviously, but I think he’s staying out right? The Angels can NOT trade him. Maybe Jordan Walden gets in to the mix. Conger, Bourjos, Walden, and Jimenez. That’s really light and I don’t think Greinke is going to the Angels anyway. I like the idea of Hicks/Gibson/Morales/Waldrop

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

Greinke for wakefield dice k and paps???? Theo make it happen!!!

4 years 9 months ago

The Red Sox might have to add J.D Drew or Mike Cameron.

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

Maybe throw in Lou Merloni.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 9 months ago

we can also throw in John Farrell :)

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

throw in YAZ too

wickedkevin
4 years 9 months ago

No! He’s doing a signing on the 20th. I want to get my 1979 Yaz pennant signed.

4 years 9 months ago

Do it! LOL

Bobby Boykin
4 years 9 months ago

Greinke has shown signs of being a great regular season pitcher. But once the playoffs start, assuming he goes to a team that makes the playoffs, how he reacts to that pressure is completely unknown. It would be hard as a Rangers fan to risk Holland, Beltre, and Perez for Greinke. Having said that…I am salivating over the idea of Lee, Greinke, Wilson, Lewis, Hunter…..I smell a repeat!

twentyfivemanroster
4 years 9 months ago

Jut to let some of you in on an unknown tidbit outside of KC apparently, In 2009 Kauffman stadium resembled a playoff atmosphere when Greink took the mound. That place errupted with every strikeout. It’s not like Greinke has pitched in only mild atmoshere.

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 9 months ago

Why is Greinke being so picky about where he is potentially traded to? Does he not realize he has been with Kansas City his whole career?

YanksFanSince78
4 years 9 months ago

Ummm comfort. $26 mil and in two years he can say where he wants to go. I’ll give him credit. He understands whatever his mental/emotional issues are and doesn’t want to go places where that can be a problem for him. He’s in control of his destiny to an extent so what’s wrong with that? I’m 85% sure wherever he goes will be in a more competetive place than the Royals.

MasterDave
4 years 9 months ago

Would you want to repeat going to a shitty team with no future?

He’s being picky because he can be. If you have any amount of control and a desire to play for a potential world series team before you retire, you want to at least try and make a good decision.

jwsox
4 years 9 months ago

dear kenny williams please please please please look into getting ugla….dude is young and has crazy good power, yes the whitesox have gordon beckham…but if you can get ugla without getting rid of sale or beckham please please do it, slot ugla into 1st…or keep hiim at 2nd, move beckham back to 3rd(he seemed more comfortable there) and either let morell get some conditioning at AAA or trade him along with a pitcher for the left handed power bat we NEED…pull off that deal for ugla..then trade floyd+quentin+morell for colby rasmus….eh?

MasterDave
4 years 9 months ago

I’m still %100 against trading Colby Rasmus, but hey if a package of Rasmus and a couple of AA guys can get it done, I say do it. If the alternative to keeping Rasmus is watching him stagnate on the bench while in Tony’s Doghouse, might as well ship him out while the value is high, rather than low when he’s pissed off and tired of playing for a team where he’s not getting a fair shake (in his opinion at least, maybe not the rest of the baseball world).

4 years 9 months ago

I’ve been a big fan of Greinke’s and hope he continues to make progress with his issues. Having said that, its kind of a joke that he won’t consider all of the east coast contenders and he’ll “consider” the LA teams. Either don’t complain about being on a noncontender in KC or suck it up and try a big market. Telling KC you want to be dealt to a team that contends and has no media pressure doesn’t leave a lot of options.

4 years 9 months ago

by “the baggage that comes with Greinke”, I am sure you mean his Cy Young award, right? and not the social anxiety disorder he has been on medication for since he was diagnosed with, without further issue?

It’s ok…Boston made his no-trade list. I’m sure it would have something to do with the intelligence of the fans he’d have to go pitch in front of at home.

4 years 9 months ago

Whoa! A little hostile there buddy. Too bad a recent sports radio study ranked Boston as some of the most highly educated sports fans in the country. Same with New York, Chicago and San Fran. Don’t mistake passion for stupidity. Also somehow I think his anxiety level would be a little higher pitching in the AL East than in the black hole that is KC. Medication isnt a cure. Different situations cause different levels of reactions. Take it from someone who knows.

4 years 9 months ago

Here is an article from Forbes mag. Or are their writers not intelligent enough for you?http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/02/best-fans-teams-lifestyle-sports-fandom.html

4 years 9 months ago

One more for ya. thedailybeast.com/galleries/787/1/?redirectURL=http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-04/americas-

4 years 9 months ago

Obviously if he is dead set against big market teams then obviously it is a issue.

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

Could be that the Boston fans are too humble and unassuming for his taste…?

Bino9
4 years 9 months ago

Could someone please elaborate as to how MLB will add a 2nd Wild Card team into the playoffs? So now it’s going to be 5 teams in the playoffs from each League? How do you make that bracket? Does the team with the best record in that League get a bye for the 1st round, because it’s obvious that the only way to do a 5 team bracket is to give the team with the best record in that League a series off, but then at the same time that’s not fair to the other 4 teams as they won’t have a week off to rest all their players

4 years 9 months ago

If your adding a second wild card team I can only assume the team witrh the best record gets a first round bye.

Bino9
4 years 9 months ago

Could someone please elaborate as to how MLB will add a 2nd Wild Card team into the playoffs? So now it’s going to be 5 teams in the playoffs from each League? How do you make that bracket? Does the team with the best record in that League get a bye for the 1st round, because it’s obvious that the only way to do a 5 team bracket is to give the team with the best record in that League a series off, but then at the same time that’s not fair to the other 4 teams as they won’t have a week off to rest all their players

Slopeboy
4 years 9 months ago

What I’ve heard being thrown around, but not officialy is that the two Wild cards would play a single game elimination. The winner moves on as they do now, except that all the series’ would be best of seven. This is just to draw more fan interest and raise revenue
(How shocking!!)