Cardinals Open Extension Talks With Albert Pujols

The Cardinals have opened extension talks with Albert Pujols, according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Negotiations between the team and agent Dan Lozano have been “positive” so far, Strauss reports.

The Cardinals are discussing potential deals with considerably more urgency than they were a year ago, when Pujols was two seasons away from free agency. The first baseman is now just months away from the open market, so he’s the team’s top remaining offseason priority.

Lozano did not exchange figures with Cardinals GM John Mozeliak when the pair discussed a Pujols extension at last month’s Winter Meetings. Pujols has said he will not negotiate once he reports to Spring Training in February, so the sides have less than two months to work out an agreement.

 


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141 Comments on "Cardinals Open Extension Talks With Albert Pujols"


Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

please just don’t go over 8 years and 30million a season. 7yr/200million would be ideal, cards don’t have to go an exorbitant amount of length and Pujols gets to be the highest paid player in terms of AAV of his contract.

Redbirds16
4 years 7 months ago

Just keep him in StL. Albert is/will be iconic (although certainly not Stan). That’s almost worth a handful of World Series wins in and of itself. A WS, especially in today’s sensationalist society, is almost all too quickly forgotten. Stan and other iconic players have left an impact upon the city (and through the team’s spread-out fanbase, a huge territorial region of the country) that is much more valuable to a club than a Series win, in my opinion.

And it’s not like paying the best player in baseball what he’s worth automatically keeps the Cards from seriously contending for a World Series… it might just make it a little harder than if they could spread the money around.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

7 for 200? are you serious. Albert is the best player in baseball right now and has been the best since coming to the bigs. If he stays healthy He could very well go down as the best position player ever. If the cards give him 7/200 you can make it a certainty that he will leave, unless he decides to take a pay cut to help the team. But i can bet you 100% there are at least 5 teams that will offer him more than 7/200. And considering how he instantly makes the team better and will put buts in seats every where his contract wont hurt as much. If im the cards GM I start at 8-10 years 250-275 mill (maybe even defer some of it) and go from there

Lanidrac
4 years 7 months ago

The Yankess, Red Sox, and Phillies are already out, so only the Mets, Angels, Cubs, and maybe the Dodgers could possibly get involved, and not even all of them would be willing to go that far, especially in years.

justme
4 years 7 months ago

if u believe sox wouldn’t make a run at him you must be insane,they would have no qualms moving youk back to third if they could aquire albert,i do understand yanks not going there cause there wouldn’t be anywhere to put him,ditto with the phils,certainly the mets would give just about anything he wanted and then some,as well as the angels,as much as the cubs would like to they couldnt find the cash i believe being swamped with to many bad contracts as is.And im sure at leats a half dozen other teams would make a run for him.

Lanidrac
4 years 7 months ago

It has nothing to do with Youkolis (sp?). The Red Sox are going to extend Adrian Gonzalez as soon as the luxury tax deadline passes.

studio179
4 years 7 months ago

Oh, they are talking about extending THAT GUY. At this point, it is anyone’s guess. I’ll give mine. Albert extends for less than many think. It will be a lot, but just not a break the team amount.

David C. Ruckman
4 years 7 months ago

I think Pujols and the bottom line won’t look nearly as bad with heavy deferments well after he’s retired (say, 2030). If we see 8+ yrs./$250MM+, I would not be shocked at all.

studio179
4 years 7 months ago

I can easily see deferred payments to Albert years later. He will want to make sure the Cards can compete by signing other people when needed.

The Busch family has not owned the team for a long time. So I guess the Cards can’t give him a beer distributor like they did to Ozzie Smith back in the day. I’m sure Pujols will take deferred money and like it.

Lanidrac
4 years 7 months ago

Don’t forget that he’s already getting deferred money from his current contract throughout the 2020’s.

studio179
4 years 7 months ago

I knew he was getting deferred money, but was not sure how long it was on the current deal. Well, he will get more deferred money…or he will get to take the Arch home with him.

studio179
4 years 7 months ago

I can easily see deferred payments to Albert years later. He will want to make sure the Cards can compete by signing other people when needed.

The Busch family has not owned the team for a long time. So I guess the Cards can’t give him a beer distributor like they did to Ozzie Smith back in the day. I’m sure Pujols will take deferred money and like it.

55saveslives
4 years 7 months ago

Call the team the St. Louis Pujols and get it over with!

55saveslives
4 years 7 months ago

Call the team the St. Louis Pujols and get it over with!

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

Nooooooo!!!! He’s supposed to play 1b for the Cubs; I blame hendry

ubercubsfan
4 years 7 months ago

lol
I just noticed your username. You got a beef with Al?

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

On the contrary, his site is one of the funniest trainwrecks on the net; it’s like the Fox news of Cubdom.

ubercubsfan
4 years 7 months ago

lol
I just noticed your username. You got a beef with Al?

firealyellon
4 years 7 months ago

Nooooooo!!!! He’s supposed to play 1b for the Cubs; I blame hendry

4 years 7 months ago

i’d love to see him go to free agency. half just to see the anticipated “albert-watch”. also i think he could wind up with the mets; heres why: (im only going to talk about big market teams)with the yankees already having a gold glove MVP type first basemen i doubt they will sign pujols and move him or tex to DH. the red sox just got a powerhitting first baseman and he has a very good glove as well. the dodgers are going through financial problems with the owners divorce. The phillies already have tons of money commited and they have howard. the angels have morales.(i could see them DH’ing him though). the cubs i could see signing him. the mets have tons of money coming off the books. beltrans 18.5, castillos 6, perez, 12, and jose reyes is coming off(i think he makes 9 per yr). so thats over 55mil per yr coming off the books. thats a lot of money that plus enough to sign pujols and another big name player or two

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

This really doesn’t matter because there is a less than 2% chance he makes it to free agency in my opinion, but I thought I would just mention that the Sox have yet to extend Gonzalez and if the Pujols extension doesn’t happen by spring training I could see them putting off the Gonzalez extension until they know what happens with Pujols and the Cards.

4 years 7 months ago

Do you really think the basics to a deal with Gonzalez are not already in place? They won’t sign him before opening day for luxury tax purposes and i dont think you can really compare Pujols and Gonzalez… Pujols is out there on his own little island looking back at everyone else… Im thinking Gonzalez has a deal looking around Tex (maybe a little less) but the Pujols contract should have very minimal effect on the Gonzalez deal.

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I’m sure that the basics to a Gonzalez deal are already in place, but do you think that if Pujols doesn’t re-sign with the Cards that the Red Sox wouldn’t rather have him than Gonzalez?

I was in no way comparing Gonzalez to Pujols, simply saying that if by some crazy chance the Cards don’t extend Pujols then the Sox may put off the Gonzalez extension in hopes that there is a chance they could land Pujols instead.

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

This really doesn’t matter because there is a less than 2% chance he makes it to free agency in my opinion, but I thought I would just mention that the Sox have yet to extend Gonzalez and if the Pujols extension doesn’t happen by spring training I could see them putting off the Gonzalez extension until they know what happens with Pujols and the Cards.

jwsox
4 years 7 months ago

the redsox could wait to extend adrian to see what happens with albert, if albert goes to spring training without an extension look for the sox to do the same with adrian…The cubs might have the money but if their owner stays true to him self they wont have enough to spend on albert. Yeah the cubs have spent money this season but not a ton. The mets are very interesting they do have a ton of money but they have a very good cost controlled 1stbasemen going into only his second season this year. The angles might try and lose out tlike they did this year. The mariners could make a play or the A’s(they seem to be willing to spend the money on the right guy)..If Texas continues to improve look for them to make a play at him….Maybe the twins could come out of no where and sign him and move justin to DH…

RahZid
4 years 7 months ago

Regardless of Pujols, AGon won’t be extended until opening day at the earliest. Of course, this is for luxury tax purposes.

4 years 7 months ago

i’d love to see him go to free agency. half just to see the anticipated “albert-watch”. also i think he could wind up with the mets; heres why: (im only going to talk about big market teams)with the yankees already having a gold glove MVP type first basemen i doubt they will sign pujols and move him or tex to DH. the red sox just got a powerhitting first baseman and he has a very good glove as well. the dodgers are going through financial problems with the owners divorce. The phillies already have tons of money commited and they have howard. the angels have morales.(i could see them DH’ing him though). the cubs i could see signing him. the mets have tons of money coming off the books. beltrans 18.5, castillos 6, perez, 12, and jose reyes is coming off(i think he makes 9 per yr). so thats over 55mil per yr coming off the books. thats a lot of money that plus enough to sign pujols and another big name player or two

Madraider
4 years 7 months ago

Who is “worth” more? a tainted Alex Rodriguez or an apparently clean Albert Pujols? Do you go all in and say sign him til 2020 for 300 million? Offer an ownership stake at the end of his career?

In my opinion, he’s one of the iconic names in the Cardinal’s history, along with Stan Musial, I just don’t know what is an amount that makes sense for both sides.

4 years 7 months ago

Well said.

Where is the point where he gets what he deserves without blowing up his own team’s future?

4 years 7 months ago

Well said.

Where is the point where he gets what he deserves without blowing up his own team’s future?

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

I’m on the same page, Madraider. I brought up the part-owner idea on another blog. I’ve been told that it is (unfortunately) illegal. I think you’re onto something, tho, in the sense that STL will need to be creative and throw in some non-traditional perks aside from a large stash of hard $ to sweeten the deal and make it happen. Maybe with each milestone, offer him not only a hefty $ bonus (a la A-Rod contract), but also donate to a non-profit tied to relief in the Dominican(?) That’s just one idea. STL’s FO should have a long list of others, if they want The Machine to stay.

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

I’m on the same page, Madraider. I brought up the part-owner idea on another blog. I’ve been told that it is (unfortunately) illegal. I think you’re onto something, tho, in the sense that STL will need to be creative and throw in some non-traditional perks aside from a large stash of hard $ to sweeten the deal and make it happen. Maybe with each milestone, offer him not only a hefty $ bonus (a la A-Rod contract), but also donate to a non-profit tied to relief in the Dominican(?) That’s just one idea. STL’s FO should have a long list of others, if they want The Machine to stay.

4 years 7 months ago

Big Mac kept it reasonable on his last contract and took fraction of ticket sales over 3 million sold so that they could focus on getting more talent. Didn’t Albert also encourage ownership to lock up Matt Holliday first and worry about him later? I think Albert gets 10 years/$280 million with big chunk deferred either through cash or ownership options.

Lanidrac
4 years 7 months ago

Without the Yankees as a suitor, nobody’s going to pay him $28M when he’s 40 and 41 years old.

Madraider
4 years 7 months ago

Who is “worth” more? a tainted Alex Rodriguez or an apparently clean Albert Pujols? Do you go all in and say sign him til 2020 for 300 million? Offer an ownership stake at the end of his career?

In my opinion, he’s one of the iconic names in the Cardinal’s history, along with Stan Musial, I just don’t know what is an amount that makes sense for both sides.

gocrazy
4 years 7 months ago

Yay!

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Albert,

Here’s a signed blank check.

Sincerely,

John Mozeliak

foxtown
4 years 7 months ago

John,

An unspecified AL East team handed me a blank check with a prettier logo. Do you have a counter-offer?

Signed,

Albert

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

yeah, John would have this AL East team charged with tampering because Pujols is still under contract.

4 years 7 months ago

I feel confident that foxtown was kidding, but thanks for the joke-murdering clarification of the obvious.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Which AL east team exactly? The one with Mark Texeira or the one with Adrian Gonzalez??

Cards_Fan_93
4 years 7 months ago

No the one with no firstbaseman, the Blue Jays

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

i have a hard time believing we couldn’t outbid the blue jays.

4 years 7 months ago

the Jays are owned by Rogers communications… Anthopolous has a green light to improve the team however he sees fit… I don’t think there are many teams that could outbid the Jays on players they truly want (as long as they are within the FO’s perceived value)… but i have an unfortunate feeling they are more like the Angels.. “We’ll spend big money on free agents” every off-season but once the Angels perceived price is blown out of the water by the Yankees, Bo Sox, etc… They are out of the running. Did anyone really see Crawford signing for as much as he did? And he was on the top of the Angels wishlist…

Ferrariman
4 years 7 months ago

well the cardinals are owned by Bill Dewitt Jr who is one of the richest mans on the plan
et(forbes had him on there top 20) and the cardinals who are perennial leaders in attendance. They also have an edge over other teams for Pujols because he lives in STL and has been here for longer. If the difference is a handful of millions, he will probably choose STL.

BlueCatuli
4 years 7 months ago

Bill Dewitt Jr isn’t even on the Forbes top 100 in the US let alone the planet. Also, I’m fairly certain Pujols lives in Kansas City, MO in the off-season. Having said that, I doubt the Blue Jays are going to be major players for Pujols. He will most likely be a Cardinal for the rest of his life. No other team would be willing to pay him the amount of money it is going to take to sign him, or give him the amount of years he wants. The Cardinals would have to be the only team he would allow to defer money over several years after his retirement.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

rogers comm is so rich yet Jays big offseason signing was octavio dotel. woopie.. they are a rich corp but they do not care about the jays

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I’m a blue jay fan, and I can never envision Pujols leaving the Cards to come to Toronto, its pretty absurd.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

I’m a blue jay fan, and I can never envision Pujols leaving the Cards to come to Toronto, its pretty absurd.

Cards_Fan_93
4 years 7 months ago

No the one with no firstbaseman, the Blue Jays

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

Probably the AL East team that only “officially” has Gonzalez until the end of the season, that would be my hunch at least.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

gimme a break

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

I didn’t say I thought it was going to happen, simply that my guess was that was who he was implying.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

gimme a break

bleachercreature
4 years 7 months ago

the one with Adam Lind

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Ya.. Pujols always did say his dream was to play in Toronto.

C’mon man, be serious

bleachercreature
4 years 7 months ago

please, Albert Pujols to the Blue Jays is the definition of serious

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

Ya.. Pujols always did say his dream was to play in Toronto.

C’mon man, be serious

foxtown
4 years 7 months ago

I already said the one with the prettier logo. Geeze….

MaineSox
4 years 7 months ago

See Lunchbox, I told you he was talking about the Red Sox. Those funny looking Socks are awful pretty!

RahZid
4 years 7 months ago

Clearly the Rays! They have the prettiest logo in the AL East 😛

not_brooks
4 years 7 months ago

“Prettier logo” guys.

Everyone knows that the Oriole is a prettier bird than the Cardinal and the Blue Jay.

Plus, I intercepted this correspondence between Pujols and Mozeliak:

“John,

The unspecified AL East team also offered a 430,000 square foot home that would be custom-remodeled to fit anything that my heart desires. They have informed me that this home is located about 432 feet from where I’ll go to work every day.

Can the Cardinals match that?

Sincerely,

Albert”

Craig Cutler
4 years 7 months ago

It doesn’t get any prettier than a bright, radiant red Cardinal bird.

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

Good joke, xub. Don’t think that would work, tho. Even tho he could easily buy a multi-million $ mansion, Pujols’ STL home is quite modest for a superstar. IIRC, it was under 500K.

not_brooks
4 years 7 months ago

Modest schmodest.

Albert would love the orange and black Apache helicopter and the matching orange and black helicopter landing pad on top of his new home. And for Albert, the O’s would forget about Brooks Robinson and slap a big number 5 on the chopper and the landing pad.

And they would get rid Brooksie’s #5 in the retired numbers courtyard and replace it with a 100 foot tall solid gold, diamond encrusted statue of Albert wearing #5.

4 years 7 months ago

I hear the Rays are offering St. Pete Beach to sign Albert.

foxtown
4 years 7 months ago

John,

An unspecified AL East team handed me a blank check with a prettier logo. Do you have a counter-offer?

Signed,

Albert

studio179
4 years 7 months ago

Ah, just like the Red Birds did in another era and with another man…Stan ‘The Man’. I doubt that happens, but it makes a nice thought for the Cards fans.

silverslugger
4 years 7 months ago

I guess the Cardinals must choose between competing and signing Albert Pujols longterm.

I’d much more prefer his free agency, the buzz will be great like never before!

Cards_Fanboy
4 years 7 months ago

If the Cards have Pujols, Holliday, Rasmus, Wainwright, Garcia, and Molina for several years to come they will be competing.

4 years 7 months ago

So it begins

4 years 7 months ago

I can see the Cards getting put into a corner here and getting wrangled into a 7 year $222 million contract, or maybe even more cash than that, the dude is worth it

Just a hunch

Everything is about to get VERY interesting

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

If it came down to the team being handcuffed financially by Fat AL’s new deal, I really Can’t see Pujols allowing that to happen..

For how good he is, he probably wants a few more rings to go down as one of the best who ever played, sure he wants to get paid, but I have a feeling the contract will be modest. Enough to feed his Great great grandkids but also not enough so that the cards end up a consistent 3rd place team

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

If it came down to the team being handcuffed financially by Fat AL’s new deal, I really Can’t see Pujols allowing that to happen..

For how good he is, he probably wants a few more rings to go down as one of the best who ever played, sure he wants to get paid, but I have a feeling the contract will be modest. Enough to feed his Great great grandkids but also not enough so that the cards end up a consistent 3rd place team

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

“Open” extension talks. Jeez, Mo. Did your mama not school you on procrastination? Extension talks should have “opened” at least a year ago.

*crossing fingers*

InTheKZone
4 years 7 months ago

They probably were opened before. There was a gentlemen’s agreement to avoid releasing any information regarding extension talks to the media if I recall correctly.

InTheKZone
4 years 7 months ago

They probably were opened before. There was a gentlemen’s agreement to avoid releasing any information regarding extension talks to the media if I recall correctly.

Triteon
4 years 7 months ago

Pujols has never negotiated during the season, and extension talks stopped before opening day 2010. They may have been going on for the last month but knowing how Pujols operates I do doubt that happened.

Triteon
4 years 7 months ago

Pujols has never negotiated during the season, and extension talks stopped before opening day 2010. They may have been going on for the last month but knowing how Pujols operates I do doubt that happened.

mattevilspawn
4 years 7 months ago

“Open” extension talks. Jeez, Mo. Did your mama not school you on procrastination? Extension talks should have “opened” at least a year ago.

*crossing fingers*

4 years 7 months ago

The Cards can declare bankruptcy and use the bail out money to sign Pujols. God bless America.

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

well done!

Lunchbox45
4 years 7 months ago

well done!

4 years 7 months ago

The Cards can declare bankruptcy and use the bail out money to sign Pujols. God bless America.

Im_Batman
4 years 7 months ago

This is were the Pirates swoop in and snatch Pujols away! They’ve been saving for years for this moment, nearly bringing the franchise to complete bankruptcy in order to sign Albert Pujols as he becomes a free agent. 15 YEARS 350 MILLION DOLLARS!!! HAHAHAHAHA

But seriously, he’ll give St. Louis a discount in exchange for the key to HIS city and change the capital to Albert St. Pujols.