Michael Young Wants Out Of Texas

After hearing his name in countless trade rumors and seeing his infield position filled by Adrian Beltre, Michael Young has "grown disillusioned with his diminished role" on the Rangers and wants out of Texas, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown. According to Brown, Texas has told Young that they will push to trade him in the coming days.

The Rockies and Angels remain the primary potential destinations for Young. Any trade would have to include salary relief, as he's owed $48MM over the next three years. Young would likely slot in as the everyday second baseman in Colorado or the everyday third baseman in LA, though Texas would probably prefer to avoid dealing him within the division. We heard yesterday that Jose Lopez would be a part of Colorado's latest offer.

Young's name originally hit the trade rumor circuit back at the Winter Meetings when he was first connected to the Rockies. The longtime Ranger has a lifetime .300/.347/.448 slash line and has played second base, shortstop, and third base regularly at various points throughout his career.


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316 Comments on "Michael Young Wants Out Of Texas"


4 years 5 months ago

trade him to the Yanks so they can trade Cano for a big time arm!!!!!!!!!!!

4 years 5 months ago

What a depressing thought.

4 years 5 months ago

Depressing? I’ll tell you what’s depressing. Getting forced out of being a one team player because the media and your own team’s front office destroys your image as a lifelong ranger with so many rumors that eventually it becomes true.

4 years 5 months ago

If there true there not rumors, and its his own fault for not staying humble and letting his pride get the better of him. Look at what Craig Biggio did with the Astros. He moved like almost 5 times for the team as an everyday player like Young. But he never complained to the media about it and her only cared to do what was best for the team, which Young seems to not care about any more and only cares about his image as a player and not going back to the World Series.

Beau Buchholz
4 years 5 months ago

Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever read on this website, Joshua. You have OBVIOUSLY never watched or read anything about Mike Young or the Texas Rangers before. Please only comment on something when you have rational, well thought out comments. Or for gods sake something you have a clue about. Mike Young is the ULTIMATE team player (one of the main pros in an argument to keep him).

As someone on these boards likes to say, may god have mercy on your sole.

johnsilver
4 years 5 months ago

Young became a team player with one of the most over paid contracts in the game and does not have the power for any of his positions (1B,3B) still able to play remotely well required for most teams. What he does have will quickly evaporate once he leaves the friendly confines of Arlington.

Sure he used to play for his life long team with out griping, but that time has stopped now for sure and he wants out in a big way and is making far more money than any team is going to be paying a to be 35YO corner IF that will have little to no power outside of 2-3 stadiums and little range to boot, plus would be far more than a defensive liability at his old middle IF positions he was once decent at years ago.

Sit back and collect your dough and shut up Young.. Texas did you a huge favor back in 2008 and rewarded you more than enough.

Beau Buchholz
4 years 5 months ago

Lol oh, I was unaware that Michael Young has been bashing the Rangers left and right, because I have YET to find a single quote anywhere on the internet of Michael Young saying ANYTHING bad about the Rangers (let alone wanting to be traded). It wouldn’t surprise me if he wants out the way he’s been treated this off season. So i really have absolutely no idea where you’re getting your information, but if he “wanted out in the worst way” then I’m sure he would have atleast 1 quote.. just saying.

And for the record, he is 34, not 35. One of the main potential landing spots is in Col which is just as good of a hitters park as Tex, he hit 21 HR’s last year, so he obviously has pop. He will/would be fine playing in the field if he has a SS that can cover a lot of ground. Watch or atleast do some research before you make such strong opinions that are obviously out of place.

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

I hate the Yankees, and would like to see them fail completely, but wanting Young over Cano is patently insane. I can only assume that’s a joke.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

they’re not the angels. can’t happen.

4 years 5 months ago

If you can trade Cano for a Felix Hernandez i don’t see the problem. If you can’t though then you keep the future MVP.

4 years 5 months ago

Funnier than Young-as-Cano-replacement joke.

4 years 5 months ago

Why would the Mariners ever trade King Felix for Robby Cano??? To win championships you need pitching. Makes no sense for the Mariners.

SmackSaw
4 years 5 months ago

LOL!

Mariners…win…championship…!

LOL!!

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

no no no no no no no no no no. cano is their best hitter and he’s only 28. don’t even joke about something like that.

4 years 5 months ago

Yea but Cano only has two more years left under his belt and want sign an extension and he just hired boras.. trade Cano for a guy like Fleix who is under contract for the next 6 years for a very very cheap price and get MY… you can always get rid of him later.. Rollins, Reyes, Weeks are all FA’s this year and Brandon Phillips will be a free agent after next year.. You can always replace Middle infielders they need arms so they can win now

4 years 5 months ago

Ok, so Cano is going to price himself out of New York eventually…….so that means the Mariners would want him for Felix?

4 years 5 months ago

montero and cano and two arms and theres no way in hell any team turns that down .. cano is a top 5-8 player in the league right now n montero is a very very high talent prospects who the marines would like to have apparently after demanding him for cliff lee last year.. it makes perfect sense for everyone

4 years 5 months ago

You need to stop being a ‘fan’ of baseball, because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Wouldn’t surprise me if you didn’t know anything at all.

4 years 5 months ago

Lets see I have coached 9 draft picks in the last seasons and coached on the 9th ranked college baseball team in the nation last year… does that sound like I dont know anything?

4 years 5 months ago

No, it sounds like you’re 12 years old.

Slopeboy
4 years 5 months ago

Stick to coaching then, because trade proosals are not your forte!

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
4 years 5 months ago

You can’t trade Cano, the best hitter in his prime on an already old team, Montero, who is slotted to be the DH for the next decade, AND 2 pitching prospects for one pitcher unless it is Walter Johnson or Bob Gibson. Pitchers are volatile and for some one as young as Felix to have so many innings on his arm, he could definitely drop off quick (not saying he will but its absolutely within reason). Also who cares about Cano’s contract how is that going to matter to the Yankees? Will they not sign let alone RE sign the best position player on the market in the off season. And let’s not forget that Felix is making roughtly 20 million AAV his last 3 years which ENDS in 2014 when he would be 28 and demanding another MONSTER contract

4 years 5 months ago

Oh I like the respect you gave to Walter Johnson but even for those four, I would not part with The Big Train. And let’s get real, Yankees are keeping Cano around. He is right now the best 2B in the league. Why would they let him walk?

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

BTW – Chase Utley says hello … and also requests that you check his stats. His 43 WAR since 2005 (covering 3885 PA’s) are a tick better than Cano’s 19 WAR (covers 3732 PAs) over that same time period.

Brad426
4 years 5 months ago

In fairness, he did say “the best 2B in the league”, which could mean the AL.

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

You are going to have a roster crunch if you slot Montero into DH. A-Rod’s 7 years and poor defense at 3rd make him a prime candidate to DH. Montero apparently should not be handed a mit under any circumstance. I guess if you think A-Rod can handle a corner outfield slot long-term then maybe it works. Most likely Montero will need to be dealt.

For what it’s worth – no way do the M’s take Cano and Montero for Felix. Cano is a solid player. Any guy that puts up 4.5 to 5 WAR consistently deserves a lot of credit. That said, Felix has put up back to back 6+ WAR seasons. He’s cheaper, younger, and signed to a better deal. Given that the M’s don’t look like contenders in 2011 I don’t see them wanting Cano. They hold onto Hernandez and hopefully right the ship before he bolts for greener pastures.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

ya, and im albert pujols uncle. i gave him his first bat and glove the rest is history. sure u r bud

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

yeaaaaaaaa no. no way. first off, no one is too rich for the yankees’ blood. second, the yankees will not get rid of their best hitter, who is still improving and is actually a good defender. cano is awesome, and sure having felix hernandez would actually be one of the few things better, but the Ms will not trade felix and certainly not for someone who has only 2 years left and will be too expensive for the yankees (according to you).

jwsox
4 years 5 months ago

dude no one is too rich for the yankees

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

Cliff Lee!

wait, that was the other way around

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

Cano is a top 5-8 player in the league. You say this yourself. So that means the Yankees should trade him? How does that compute? Sign him to a monster deal and keep him forever. There is never any reason for the Yankees to trade someone because they are worried they will cost too much. That’s ridiculous.

4 years 5 months ago

Felix might be the best pitcher in baseball.. middle infielders are a dime a dozen, they can always get new infielders.. solid actually number 1 type arms arent replacebale.. I understand that Cano is a great player, maybe even the best player on the Yanks but without another solid arm it want matter how good he is… Anthoher arm like Felix who will give you 20 wins and with CC getting around 20 wins that almost have of your team victories for the season now all you need is AJ Hughes and a water boy to get by and theyll have a great season…

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

Holy cow. You are just throwing out fictional trades at this point. Why don’t the Yankees trade Derek Jeter for Roy Halladay? That would work right? I mean, you can just randomly throw two names out and that’s a realistic trade idea, right?

4 years 5 months ago

how is that a fictional trade because I threw out an idea that I thoughht would work?

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

Hernandez is going to be paid 20M a year over the last three years of his contract. So the Mariners, who likely will have to trade him because they cannot afford him, are going to trade him for a 2B whose club options cost 14M and 15M the next two years, and would likely cost 20M a year after that. What is the value of a ridiculous trade like that?

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

You do realize that the company that owns the M’s is worth $200 billion right?

I don’t think the M’s have had to trade a player because they couldn’t afford him. In most cases it was because they felt they couldn’t compete with more attractive markets.

CrustyJuggler
4 years 5 months ago

Bingo! The M’s have $$$. Especially considering they will only have Felix and Ichiro making North of $10M in 2012. They have no issue paying Felix. Its whether or not they see themselves competing by the time he becomes a FA that will factor in a potential trade. Not the money.

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

Since they are now floating close to a 90M payroll, you are probably right. But that makes the point just as well. Why would they trade Hernandez at all if they can afford to keep him?

NL_East_Rivalry
4 years 5 months ago

I don’t get why the guy wants Felix when all he does is bash him and raise up his players saying the trade can’t be done. Sly trading technique, but unless you have a special use, no one in their right mind will buy it. It’s like saying Felix has neg trade value, Cano has pos, then adding on your best prospect. If he was right before, he wouldn’t need to give up Montero.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

wait wait wait. aj burnett and derek jeter for roy halladay and cliff lee!

EdinsonPickle
4 years 5 months ago

Maybe if the Yanks throw in Ramiro Pena they can get Hamels too.

kdub53
4 years 5 months ago

ur dreaming guy

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

He’s not dreaming, he’s joking.

kdub53
4 years 5 months ago

seriously…people get offended pretty easy on here dont they…SORRY MAINESOX!!!

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

I’m not offended, and you didn’t need to apologize. It looked like you thought he was serious so I was letting you know that he wasn’t.

4 years 5 months ago

That’s all the callers on WFAN do, pick random names and say why don’t the Yanks trade them

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

first things first: pitcher wins mean NOTHING. cano is a 5 win player. as in 5 WAR. as in he will add five wins to the team’s record over a replacement player. felix is about a 5-6 win pitcher. so he is better, but not hugely better.

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

Isn’t it a stretch to call Cano a 5 WAR player? He’s had exactly ONE season in which he was worth 5 or more WAR. He’s had 2 that were in the mid 4’s, one that was right at 2 and another under 1 WAR. He’s been worth roughly 3 WAR on average over the course of his career.

Hernandez is 3.5 years younger. He has already posted back to back 6+ WAR seasons. Before that was 3 seasons where he averaged 4 WAR. Before that was his rookie year, as a 20YO where he racked up more than 2.5 WAR in less than half a season. Hernandez has averaged between 5 and 6 WAR for his career.

The M’s control Hernandez through his age 28 season. He has 4 years left at $67m. The Yanks control Cano through his age 30 season. He has 3 years left at 3/$39. When you consider that Cano might be looking at an $18-20m payday the gap in dollars to cover the 4 years is pretty insignificant.

I think it’s fair to say that going forward Hernandez could easily be worth 2+ extra wins over Cano/season. That makes him quite a bit better than Cano.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

well of course felix is better. just as i think that felix is a true talent 6WAR pitcher after 3 seasons of 4 WAR, i think that cano is a true talent 5WAR player after a couple 4 WAR seasons. he has shown the same ability with the bat two years in a row, and UZR has never liked him, even while he has dropped his error totals and features a great double arm. cano’s 2008 season was an aberration from his normal line so i view it as such. my point here was that the Ms would never ever trade felix for a player that cost more and they had for a shorter time. and the yankees would never ever trade their best hitter who still has 2 more affordable years. felix is better than cano, but he is not the kind of better that is worth giving up your best young hitter on a team that is aging quickly, especially when there is no replacement ready to step in.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

what? that made no sense what so ever.

jwsox
4 years 5 months ago

montero who cant really catch and will, if traded, be moved to 1st which the mariners have smoak there…

CrustyJuggler
4 years 5 months ago

Montero loses a lot of value if being dealt to Seattle because he, A: will not be a catcher and, B: will have to DH right out of the gate. Combine that with the way Safeco hurts right handed power and Montero is a bad fit for Seattle.

$1545094
4 years 5 months ago

priced out of NY? I don’t think there is a player in baseball that could be priced out of NY.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

enter albert pujols.

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
4 years 5 months ago

He isn’t priced out of NY they just don’t have a spot for him. If it made sense they would do it but Unless you are gonna rotate 1B Tex/Pujole 3B A Rod/Tex and DH A Rod/Tex/Pujols, its a lack of spots, not money.

4 years 5 months ago

Scott implied that, not me.

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

If he managed to price himself out of New York he would also have priced himself out of baseball.

4 years 5 months ago

Im not saying price himself out of NY im saying Felix is under for 6 years at a very very very cheap price.. Cano is already making 14 M a year thats gonna go up to 18-20 M a year when they can sign another middle infielder to do around the same amount of work…

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

and why would the Ms do this by the way?

Whowonthe2009WorldSeries
4 years 5 months ago

He is under contract untill 2014.

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

That is what makes it a fictional trade, my friend. What value is there to the Mariners? They lose a great pitcher, and get stuck with yet another player they probably cannot afford long term. What’s the point?

jwsox
4 years 5 months ago

felix is only under contract for 3 more season(until 2014)….why would the M’s trade their home grown pitcher who is already in the top 5 of right handers in the entire MLB who is under contract untill 2014 and only 24!!!!! for a 28 year old secondbasemen who just HIRED SCOTT BORAS….in other words they would trade their ACE one of the best pitchers in baseball for a very veryvery very good older second basemen who hired the best agent in all of sports and will get a 20+ per year deal? does not make sense stop trying to justify it

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

I’m pretty sure Felix is under control for 4 more years, and the last couple aren’t THAT cheap. But regardless, the Yankees don’t care if Cano is going to command 20M per year after his contract is up, they’ll pay him his money and be happy to do it. They also aren’t going to find another middle infielder who produces anywhere near what Cano does for much less money, so they would either have to pay someone else anyway or get MUCH less production out of their second baseman.

Also in your scenario they are getting Young from Texas to replace Cano, Young is a MASSIVE (someone give me a better word than massive…) downgrade from Cano and is making 16M per year fo the next 3 years, that’s more than Cano is getting now and nearly as much as Cano will likely get in his next contract.

Why would the M’s do that trade? That would be foolish. They would be getting a guy who is great but leaving in 2 years anyway (which is sooner than Felix by the way), a catcher/DH who would fit their needs pretty well, and a couple of pitching prospects, which they have several of anyway. In all likelihood they would not be looking for current stars in return, it would make most sense to ask for (bunches of) guys who are still prospects or have, at most, one year of service; guys that could be cheap and under team control for several years, Montero fits but Cano certainly does not especially considering their top prospect is a 2B.

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

Great post

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

Feliz is signed @ 4/$68. You just mentioned that Cano is probably the best 2B in baseball and now you just want to replace him with just whoever.

JerseyJohn32190
4 years 5 months ago

Cano is one of the best 2nd baseman in baseball, but they could just sign anyone to do the “same amount of work.” If that’s the case, why would the Cards want to re-sign Pujols? They could just sign any old player to do the same amount of work. Why would the Yankees even want Felix? They already have some pitchers who can do the same amount of work, right?

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

10 years 500 million.

moneyball_dirtdog
4 years 5 months ago

>>>price himself out of New York eventually

You don’t understand how this game works, do you?

4 years 5 months ago

I reckon i’ve never heard of this Robinson Cano fella yall keep speaking of.

4 years 5 months ago

Or just keep Cano as he’s better than all of those guys and resign him because you’re the Yankees and have endless pockets… since when has Boras been a barrier to the Yankees.

Teams won’t trade prime pitching that’s under team control for an expensive second baseman ($14M and $15M options for 2012 and 2013).

4 years 5 months ago

Cano cant pitch.. Settle would take Cano and Montero and a couple of plus prospects and arms and give up Felix.. there trying to rebuild as it is why not take on a stud catcher and a face of the MLB in Cano they just got there future 1st baseman in the Cliff Lee trade

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

This is my favorite comment in this whole string. Tons of laughs here. I myself had no idea that Cano couldn’t pitch. I thought he won the Cy Young last year.

jwsox
4 years 5 months ago

by all of your ligoc the M’s should trade ichiro as well….dude just stop yeah a cano+montero+2 pitching prospects+(since its the yankees, eating some if not most of canos deal and taking on most of it not all of felix’s) for felix might make sense in a fantasy baseball/video game sense but in real life i doubt the yankees would trade their best player(the secondbasemen in the yankees system are nothing to brag about) who is young and had a break out year for a pitcher who the market next season is flooded with quality arms. PLUS and the biggest of all!!!! The M’s are not in full rebuild mode, their division is pretty weak it makes literally no sense to trade their second best player(behind ichiro) and the other face of the franchise(again behind ichiro) for an expensive player….also it would not make sense to trade a pitcher of the quality of felix to another AL team…if ANYTHING and thats a HUGE!!! IF!!! they would trade him to the NL so they dont ever have to play against him except for a random interleague play and the highly unlikely possiblity of a world series…which is why the Blue Jays didnt trade halladay to the yankees or whitesox even though there were supposedly deals in place for that.

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

Wait a second …

Halladay wasn’t traded to an AL East team because the Jays didn’t like the offers they were receiving. It was pretty clear that the Yanks could have had Halladay but they bet on him being available as a FA so they passed on giving up top shelf prospects.

When can we dump this AL West is a pretty weak division crap. The Angels routinely win 95+ games. The Rangers played in the WS in 2010. The A’s have one of the best young rotations in baseball. Would it really surprise that many people if the AL West had 75% of it’s teams above 500 in 2011? I don’t think it’s the best division in baseball but there are plenty that I would put below it.

Finally, the M’s are in rebuild mode. It is clear the direction they are taking. After being active in the 2009 off-season, they were silent this year. There are a lot of gaps on that squad but the team seemed content to take it easy and not load up for 2011. Now, the M’s could certainly be a strong team in 2012 and beyond (deep pockets, some very interesting prospects) but I would definitely say that 2011 is marked as a throw-away season.

0bsessions
4 years 5 months ago

“the market next season is flooded with quality arms”

Come again? I think the market for SP next year might actually be worse than this year.

SmackSaw
4 years 5 months ago

Where?

4 years 5 months ago

“Fail” on so many levels.

TheHitman23
4 years 5 months ago

Who plays second then? Michael Young? Ramiro Pena? The thought of these just haunts me. I’m sorry, but I’d rather have Cano and his contract extension rather than Rollins or Reyes or even King Felix at this point. Yes I said it. Cano is just too good to trade. Plus they’d have to give up at least two top prospects including Montero. Way too much for just King Felix. The Yankees will give Cano whatever he wants. He’s the next face of the franchise.

jwsox
4 years 5 months ago

felix is signed for a long time for a team friendly deal considering his talent there is no way he gets traded….yes cano is awsome but Felix is only 24 the past two years he has finished 2nd and won a cy young and has room to improve which is scary. last season at 28 may have been canos best season of his career(including future) not saying he wont repeat but who knows maybe it was a flash in the pan maybe it was a sign of things to come…but people need to stop the whole felix is trade bait stuff…if he was he would not have been extended untill 2014…to get felix it would have to be cano+top pitching prospect+another top prospect

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

a) This ain’t Pittsburgh, the Yanks willpay top dollar tokeepone of their own preductive players and they have a great working relationship w/ Boras (Arod, Soriano, Tex, Brackman, others).
b) Felix is only under contract for 4 more years, not six, and while he’s signed for under market (not CC or Lee money) I would not call ab avg of $16.5 mil cheap.
c) Felix would probably be the only player they might consider trading Cano for but the M’s are not going to make that deal because of one of the very reasons you suggested the Yanks get rid of him for. He’s 2 years away from FA and he just signed Boras as his agent.

bjsguess
4 years 5 months ago

$16m is cheap for a 6 WAR pitcher. And I’m not sure there are many people out there who think Felix has hit his ceiling. Would it surprise anyone if Felix accumulated 28 WAR over the next 4 years? That would provide $140m in value for less than $70m.

So yeah – I agree that in a vacuum $16m is NOT cheap. That is a lot of money. However, in the case of Hernandez, $16m/year represents tremendous value.

4 years 5 months ago

felix isnt signed for a very cheap price. He signed a 100 million dollar deal last offseason

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Young for Sabathia then. Sounds like a deal.

4 years 5 months ago

Yeah and while you’re at it trade Hamilton for Ramiro Pena and a bag of balls

4 years 5 months ago

Why are we talking about the Yankees? Come on Rockies, make a move. We need his bat!

Redsoxn8tion
4 years 5 months ago

The Rangers are foolish for pushing Young out of Texas. He was a huge part of the reason they made it to the WS last year. As a Boston fan I don’t think Beltre is going to be as consistant ever year.

4 years 5 months ago

wait, the Rangers are foolish for having upgraded their defense in every position that Young plays? I thought pitching and defense wins games… If you remember, all this trade talk started when other teams came and asked the Rangers about Young, not the other way around.

Redsoxn8tion
4 years 5 months ago

Dumping Young

EdinsonPickle
4 years 5 months ago

Bahahahahahahahaha! Trade Cano and replace him with Young! That’s a good one! Oh wait…You were serious. Wow. Why on God’s green Earth would you even think about trading Cano. He’s finally become the player that the Yankees have wanted him to become, and you want to take him and replace him with a 34 yr old with a poorer bat and glove. Quite the shrewd baseball man you are.

Janssen
4 years 5 months ago

What happened to Nolan Ryan saying everything was fine and dandy? Seems like that turned around quick.

4 years 5 months ago

Nolan doesnt run the entire show…
its time we ask the people in the forum, trade Young and sign Hamilton to an extension or keep young and let hamilton go…

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Nolan said MY was staying, but if the article is correct, it is MY who is demanding to get out…so that negates what Nolan promised about MY being on the roster on opening day. I knew Nolan saying that publicly was a mistake because with such a volatile situation, you couldn’t predict that MY was really going to make it even to opening day.

jb226
4 years 5 months ago

It’s worth noting that “Michael Young is staying” was followed almost immediately by “Rangers shopping Young” or something along those lines. In other words, I think Michael Young is just tired of being told one thing and reading another in the paper and has decided it’s time to go.

Maybe Ryan is simply lying. Maybe he thinks he’s being helpful to try to stop the press enquiries while nobody knows what’s happening. Maybe it’s a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Either way, from the press accounts it’s fairly obvious that they were trying to deal Young as Ryan was out there talking about how he’s staying. If that pisses Michael Young off, I certainly couldn’t blame him.

EdinsonPickle
4 years 5 months ago

I was waiting for this to happen. It really is a damn shame because Young has been such a big part of the Rangers since 2001. I was hoping he wouldn’t get shipped out, but it appears as if that’s going to be the final outcome of this whole thing.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Assuming this is truth and not another false rumor that ends up getting shut down by the Rangers and MY. But, if true, then it isn’t exactly like it was a surprise when they said they were pursuing Beltre.

4 years 5 months ago

Man I feel for Young. They are treating him like trash. Pathetic.

4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, I feel absolutely terrible for Michael Young. First off, he’s only made roughly $43 million in his career, and is set to make a mere $16 million per year for the next 3 years. Surely a defensive liability who’s posted an OPS above .800 once in the past 4 years is worth more than that.

Shame on Texas for upgrading his position and trying to move a bad contract. Pathetic.

flickadave
4 years 5 months ago

That doesn’t change the fact that he has been the consummate pro and has repeatedly changed positions for the good of the team only to be thanked with another slap in the face.

This is a chance for the Angels front office to redeem itself but it might be tough to talk a divisional rival into sending Young plus cash to Anaheim.

4 years 5 months ago

Maybe not, but the Rangers don’t owe Michael Young anything. He was rewarded for his selflessness with that big extension, which again is going to pay him above what he’s worth for the next 3 years.

4 years 5 months ago

You are the exact reason I despise most fans now. No team loyalties anymore whatsoever.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

You root for the uniform, not the face. (Unless it’s Mike Lowell)

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
4 years 5 months ago

I’m sure this is a joke thats flying right over my head, but what makes Mike Lowell so special?

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

his face

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
4 years 5 months ago

Interesting

Philip Marlowe
4 years 5 months ago

It’s true. Have you ever looked into his eyes? It’s like the first time I heard the Beatles.

4 years 5 months ago

agreed. he is a great guy, definitely a leader, but when it comes down to it, im ready for my rangers to keep winning, and if that means moving the big contract to keep my good guys here, its just the way it goes.

if he wants to stay here.. how about you cut your salary 10mill the next 3 years and we keep you on no problems..

Beau Buchholz
4 years 5 months ago

If your “good guys” doesn’t include Mike Young then you’re not a Rangers fan.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

What a load. MY will get his money. He is a good guy and a leader, but he can’t play the infield anymore in a manner better than other players on the team. While I’d like him to stay on the roster as a backup, if he can’t hack that, then the Rangers will TRY to trade him…but they aren’t just going to give him away. The Angels will have to try and salvage their crappy offseason somewhere else. Unless they want to give the Rangers Santana for Young and eat MY’s contract.

4 years 5 months ago

I agree with the idea that Texas is justified to unload Young if they feel it helps them, his loyalty be damned.

That said, I find the implication that nothing that happens to a player is really so bad as long as he still has big piles of money to swim around in, a la Scrooge McDuck is distasteful and silly.

It takes more than greed to be a good baseball player, more even than talent. It takes drive, competitiveness, and pride, and the situation Young is in is enough to cut all of those off at the knees.

Sure, he’s better off with those millions than many folks, but it wasn’t so long ago he thought of himself as a valued player, and now he’s forced to hope for a ticket out of town, just to avoid being an overpaid joke on the bench. That sucks. Millions or not, that sucks. It’s not like he got worse as a player just to spite you personally. His best just isn’t what it used to be.

4 years 5 months ago

He’s still a human. He makes a ton, but that’s how it is. Welcome to the world, grow up and stop whining about players making money. That being said, the Rangers have every right to want to trade him, but it must be annoying to have your name brought up as Young’s is

Todd Smith
4 years 5 months ago

Seems like it’s the other way around to me. Young went on and on about how he didn’t want to be traded, he would play DH, anything – he just wanted to stay in Texas. Now that all the big DH free agents have signed elsewhere, NOW he wants out. Cheap move.

4 years 5 months ago

Did you not read the part of the article which said he wanted out once he saw the swirling rumors?

Yeah, skipped over that one I see.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

I think it’s the other way around. Seems to me that they just commited to a DH when they traded for Napoli. And it also seems that the Rangers never quite stopped shopping him and only after the news came out a few days ago that they were still in talks that he decided to open his mouth up about the situation.

I guess it all depends about HOW and WHEN these rumors are leeked but it seemsmore about Texas not wanting him, rather than him not wanting to be with Texas.

kdawg89
4 years 5 months ago

He wants out cause the Rangers keep screwing him..he’s moved positions 3 times now and after they got Napoli they want him to be a utility guy?? Sorry but if I bent over backwards for a team to accomodate them for a decade just to have them ask me to bend over forwards and grab my ankles…I’d be pissed and want gone too. This is the problem with baseball now..No loyalty from players to their teams and when one is loyal the team treats him like crap. Hope he does go to Colorado..he’ll probably hit .350 there.

Todd Smith
4 years 5 months ago

Seems like it’s the other way around to me. Young went on and on about how he didn’t want to be traded, he would play DH, anything – he just wanted to stay in Texas. Now that all the big DH free agents have signed elsewhere, NOW he wants out. Cheap move.

Todd Smith
4 years 5 months ago

Seems like it’s the other way around to me. Young went on and on about how he didn’t want to be traded, he would play DH, anything – he just wanted to stay in Texas. Now that all the big DH free agents have signed elsewhere, NOW he wants out. Cheap move.

bomberj11
4 years 5 months ago

Dude I’ve seen a double post before, but a triple? That’s pretty epic.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, a $16 mil per year piece of trash. Right. Business is business and Young has played himself out of every position in the infield. Time for him to move on so the Rangers can give the roster spot to someone who holds more value to the club.

4 years 5 months ago

i love young, but i love the rangers as a whole winning and having more $$$ to sign some players…

EDIT: this meant contract extensions mainly

m4r1n3r
4 years 5 months ago

My thoughts exactly. Way to treat a good guy who’s played very well for your organization.

ryankrol
4 years 5 months ago

Dude… Why on Earth would you ever push a player like Michael Young away to the point where he wants off your team after you just made it to the World Series for the first time?

If he goes to the Angels, Anaheim will have smashed the gavel on all the criticisms as well as many people’s assumptions that the Rangers are a growing franchise ready to succeed the Angels in the West.

If this is an accurate post, then Nolan Ryan is basically pulling the same crap Buzzy Bavasi pulled in 1979 that prompted Ryan to sign elsewhere.

And of course, one can look at it that way as well and figure not only shutting up the nay sayers, but also making up for that big mistake the Angels made in 1979.

However you look at it, this has got to be one of the most bizarre situations I’ve seen such a great player be involved in.

flickadave
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, it sure seems like Young deserves better.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

how can the angels afford to take on another bad contract?

ryankrol
4 years 5 months ago

They can afford a lot more than what they have. Their owner is a billionaire and knows what it takes to generate even more revenue.

Define a bad contract these days.

Your icon indicates you’re a Yankees fan, so tell me how many bad contracts you have on your team.

Actually none of NY’s contracts are really that bad because you have to overpay a little if you want to spend with the big boys.

And the money that Vernon Wells makes will be a more common salary in the next few years.

The Angels can afford it.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

well the difference is that the yankees’ biggest advantage is the ability to absorb bad contracts. jeter’s was a huge overpay, though it’s understandable because most of the money is because of his legend status with the yankees. arod is… just… never again lol. aj burnett was a shi**y decision. so far CC has been worth every dollar. posada’s contract is almost done, cano is still relatively cheap as is granderson and swisher and gardner. tex is being paid a lot, but he is a great hitter and a great defender. those contracts will hurt a lot in a few years, but the yankees’ payroll can probably afford it better than any other team. the difference is that the yankees did not trade for a contract that they already knew was bad. you see there was a big market for wells when he was signed, but hindsight has shown that the contract is one of the worst in baseball. to trade for the contract AFTER history has shown its failing is what the inexplicable thing is. everyone knows that arod’s contract is bad now, so someone trading for it. that would be ridiculous. or aj burnett’s contract. so yes the yankees have bad contracts, but they are extremely fortunate to be able to afford it. and at least they havent traded for zambrano or zito’s contract (yet).

MikeDroid
4 years 5 months ago

bingo, theres a difference between not being able to spend money and just not spending it… as an angels fan i wouldnt mind getting young as long as we dont give up anything of value. if that means taking most of his contract so what? we need to inject another bat in the infield.

4 years 5 months ago

If you don’t want to give up anything of value, then you better be ready to take on ALL of the contract.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

I don’t think anyone objects to spening lot’s of money or even on overpaying. The objection comes out regarding WHO they choose to spend big on and WHY they agreed to overpay. If the Angels had signed Crawford for something crazy like 8/$180 I think ppl would’ve pooped in their pants but would’ve prefered that to trading for Wells and eating his entire contract.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

That depends on what the Angels would give up to get MY. Would you trade a top of the rotation pitcher for him? How about taking on his whole contract?

ryankrol
4 years 5 months ago

It may come down to the Rangers taking what they can get since it appears that Young wants out now, and that if they want to trade him to a contender, they will likely have to take prospects because a team like the Rockies isn’t depleting their pitching when they are as close as they are already.

4 years 5 months ago

no and no

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

If he goes to the Angels, then the Angels just had the worst offseason in history

Bighoot
4 years 5 months ago

GTFO Texas they have treated you like crap! I understand you moved over for the kid at SS but you have been playing awesome since you came to the majors! Now this? I agree good move time to move on you are an evey day player and a greaty hitter!

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Let him be mediocre as a fielder for a team where that is considered an upgrade.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

Texas treated Young like crap by setting his children’s children’s children and maybe even their children for life

4 years 5 months ago

How about Young to the Angels for Vernon Wells and that absurd contract? Hah!

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

How about Young to the Angels for Santana and Dan Haren and cash (from the Angels to the Rangers)? Actually given the Wells trade, I kind of expect this to happen.

dwarfcatt
4 years 5 months ago

Texas has shown a remarkable lack of class in the way they have handled Michael Young these past few months. For years, the man was the face of the franchise and did virtually anything that was asked of him (including learning three infield positions). He was a consistent, positive influence through all of their lean times, truly embodying what it meant to be a Texas Ranger.

Now that he’s getting on in years and is no longer an exploitable commodity they go and publicly shop him all over the universe. Forcing the man to read the writing on the wall that the Rangers kindly painted for him in neon, glow-in-the-dark paint.

The Baseball Karma gods are watching you, Texas. They have long tempers.

Slopeboy
4 years 5 months ago

You’re absolutely right concerning Young. His downfall is that there is no alligence to him from the new ownership. He carries a large salary and is no longer vital to their success. These are the NEW Texas Rangers, remember!

4 years 5 months ago

I understand Michael Young isn’t that great, but loyalty is a big issue to me. This is ridiculous. As a Ranger’s fan, this disgusts me.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

A mediocre team can afford to be sentimental towards long term players, but a winning team can’t.

4 years 5 months ago

Nice generalization with no evidence whatsoever.

4 years 5 months ago

Yankees and Babe Ruth. Released by Yankees at the end of 1934. Ruth should have bowed out on his terms but I don’t think Yanks let him.

4 years 5 months ago

like the Yankees and Jeter?

4 years 5 months ago

One good season and all of a sudden the Rangers are a winning team and not mediocre? Even your amazing season last year yielded you only 90 wins. I’ll be surprised if tex ends up in second place in the west.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah…the Rangers should go the Astros way like they did with Biggio, Bagwell and Berkman and keep “popular” players well past their primes when they can’t play any position particularly well. You want sentimentality in MLB? Good luck in finding that when sentimentality=mediocre.

I can’t believe there are still “baseball fans” around who haven’t gotten it through their skulls that the game is about money and winning now. The owners want to win and the players want money. Happens in all the sports actually, which is why the only ones who were stunned by Lebron leaving Cleveland were just the average fans in Cleveland. Everyone else knew he was going to go for the big bucks somewhere else.

4 years 5 months ago

Yea you’re absolutely right. Because people can’t understand a concept if they don’t agree with it…..

dwarfcatt
4 years 5 months ago

There is a big difference between understanding that the game is about money & winning and liking it. Let’s face it, the world is about money & winning. That doesn’t make it right.

I disagree with your over-generalizations. Not all teams stab players in the back the second it seems to be advantageous. Not all players extort top dollar at all costs. Kerry Wood is playing for a fraction of his market value because he loves Chicago. Jim Thome turned down more from Texas to remain in Minnesota.

I just think there’s a better conclusion then “well, the moral here is Michael Young was an idiot for being loyal.” I think we are too prone to overlook the obvious fact that championships are not won solely on paper. There’s something to be said for motivation, for trust and respect.

Every player in that Rangers locker room is watching. Every player down on the farm is too. All this represents to them is what Shea Hillenbrand put on Toronto’s whiteboard a few years ago: “Play for yourselves!” Don’t worry about the team. Don’t worry about championships.

4 years 5 months ago

Perfectly said. Let’s see if Hamilton signs an extension to a team that is taking their FOTF and saying screw you.

4 years 5 months ago

I’m not sure it was actually about a difference in money for Lebron…it was more about his ego and trying to create a “legendary” force.

bigredmachine13
4 years 5 months ago

How about Zito for Young? Both teams get rid of crappy contracts, the Giants get a real 3B, the Rangers get a solid pitcher with a buyout clause…everyone is happy.

4 years 5 months ago

Oh that makes sense. Get rid of a big contract to gain a big contract. What a smart way of running of business. Go be a GM please. Oh and for the Giants, that’d be awesome.

bleedDODGERblue
4 years 5 months ago

It does make sense, actually. Yes, they are both big ugly contracts, but Young fits the Giant’s needs better and Zito fits the Ranger’s.

4 years 5 months ago

Zito would be the opposite of a solid pitcher in Arlington….

4 years 5 months ago

Zito actually has very good numbers at Arlington especially during his Oakland days.

$1545094
4 years 5 months ago

maybe Texas should have never given Young the large amount of money that they did.
can’t blame Texas for wanting to improve in the positions he has played in the past. Beltre for an example is an improvement. they can’t really be like the Yankees and pay Young lots of money based on what has already done just to keep him around similar to Jeter.
can’t also blame Young at this point for wanting out. it’s just going to take something creative because of the contract that he doesn’t really deserve.

MadmanTX
4 years 5 months ago

Yes, you get it. It is all about improving a team that lost the World Series. Loyalty to Young can only go so far when there are better players ready to fill any position he can play.

$1545094
4 years 5 months ago

is that sarcastic as in the Rangers are doing wrong to Young?
they didn’t win the World Series, so improvement is necessary.
what would loyalty give the Rangers? make fans happy? I think fans will be happier if the team is trying to win.

4 years 5 months ago

You shouldn’t cherry pick when reading comments. Madman stated multiple times above this comment that he’s perfectly fine with the Ranger’s getting rid of Young.

Dev0
4 years 5 months ago

Ah player demanding out, means reduced cost, enter AA

$1545094
4 years 5 months ago

I’d like to see Young as a player for the Jays at 3B, but the Rangers would have to eat A LOT of money. the only player the Jays have to give back to Texas to balance out “some” salary would be Juan Rivera($5.25 MIL in 11). then Batista could play RF and Snider could be in LF.
again, Texas would have to eat A LOT of money. then other than Rivera, no clue who else would be involved.
just speaking statistically and not contract, I do like the numbers Young could put up.
still highly unlikely it would happen though.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

true that. AA has a knack for picking up guys at their lowest value and getting rid of TERRIBLE contracts at their highest value…

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

I don’t want Young playing 3B. He’s as equal a butcher as EE.

Jose Herrera
4 years 5 months ago

Ok michael the hell with you. we dont need you anymore. you couldnt get us the ultimate prize. &%*( you.

4 years 5 months ago

You clearly don’t get it….

4 years 5 months ago

You must be a bandwagon Ranger fan.

4 years 5 months ago

yeah we dont want him to go? we just want to move the contract for help with Hamilton/Cruz/Wilson… and even Feliz/Andrus

4 years 5 months ago

Young for Soriano

BlueCatuli
4 years 5 months ago

$24MM difference, an extra year and a full no trade clause make that highly unlikely. I love your enthusiasm though.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Young for Aram who healthy enough to DH part of the time with Texas and Grabow and the Cubs pick up most of the remainder of the salary for a guy who can hit and restore credibility to the Cubs with his leadership.

BobbyJohn
4 years 5 months ago

The two questions for the Rockies (my team) are: Can we live with diminshed defense at 2B in favor of his bat, and how much is O’Dowd willing to part with in order to get him?

Right now I don’t see him going anywhere but here, and as long as Texas chips in significantly to his salary (like at least half) then I am okay with it.

Maybe Jose Lopez, Eric Young Jr., and a decent pitching prospect for Young plus $25 million?

4 years 5 months ago

young at second isnt going to be terrible. he will be average defensively and above average batting. i know people alway say how terrible his glove is, it isnt the worst one out there, just not great in any terms

mkorpal
4 years 5 months ago

It’s bad at 3rd, So I can’t imagine it being average at 2B, although Tulo will help cover some ground. His bat is average at 3B, but should be above average at 2B (and better than anything the Rockies have had at 2B in a very long time)

4 years 5 months ago

idk i wish people would watch him play… he isnt terrible with the glove. i mean his range isnt great but it does the job.

InLeylandWeTrust
4 years 5 months ago

Shame what this has turned into

4 years 5 months ago

He would be the perfect 2-hole hitter for the White Sox
Kenny get it done.

4 years 5 months ago

yeah we will give ya feldman and young for peavy and we both wash on the salarys

4 years 5 months ago

Now the Angels will consider Young and his salary? Even after taking on Wells?

If the Angels are that willing to eat dough on middling players, I wish they’d take [insert name of my team’s bad contract] here.

phoenix2042
4 years 5 months ago

take AJ burnett! and then give jered weaver and ervin santana to the yankees!!!!

4 years 5 months ago

Wow. Amazing. I’m sorta flabergasted.

4 years 5 months ago

Hit the nail on the head. It’s Young’s fault the Rangers flat out played him.

Just stop.

4 years 5 months ago

Unbelievable, I would have demanded a trade as well if I were Young. They are treating him like absolute crap for no apparent reason. He is a stand up guy who has been with them forever, put up solid numbers, and now he is cast aside like he is worthless.

Slowly filling up every position on the field as he sat and watched, and was told numerous times he was not being traded is a complete slap in the face to the man. I don’t know how the Rangers cannot be frowned upon heavily for their handling of this whole thing.