Giants Claim Bell On Waivers; No Deal Reached

FRIDAY: Bell is staying put, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter).

WEDNESDAY: The Giants have been awarded the waiver claim on Padres closer Heath Bell, tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.  Olney expects the Giants' level of concern with closer Brian Wilson's elbow to be a factor in the ensuing trade talks.  If the teams cannot reach an agreement, the Padres can pull Bell back, but then won't be able to trade him elsewhere.  A trade is unlikely, hears Dan Hayes of the North County Times

Though Bell projects as a Type A free agent, National League non-contenders elected not to claim the righty with an eye on draft pick compensation.  With the Padres at least, Bell has said he'd accept an arbitration offer.

Bell, 33, has a 2.55 ERA, 6.8 K/9, 3.2 BB/9, 0.34 HR/9, and 43.2% groundball rate on the season.  He has $1.44MM remaining on his contract.

The two division rivals last struck a deal in July of 2003, when the Giants traded Clay Hensley and cash to the Padres for Matt Herges.  Before that, they hadn't made a deal since '92.


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131 Comments on "Giants Claim Bell On Waivers; No Deal Reached"


3 years 11 months ago

Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain for Heath Bell.

marinest21
3 years 11 months ago

Psh, not even close. Posey better be in there as well.

3 years 11 months ago

If we’re throwing in Posey we have to have APTBNL in return.

marinest21
3 years 11 months ago

Alberto Gonzalez should work.

3 years 11 months ago

You couldn’t trade the entire Padres roster for those three.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

Ummm…. Blanks, Headley, and Maybin would all be upgrades for SF in my opinion. Latos and Luebke are no scrubs. Lets not go on pretending like the Padres don’t have an excellent¬†young foundation to build on.

JacksTigers
3 years 11 months ago

You would know. You are the Padres future.

Ohhhplease
3 years 11 months ago

Really really tough when you don’t get the most obvious of sarcasm……

3 years 11 months ago

Boy, this is really gonna help the Giants non-existent offense.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

What is?

Coollet
3 years 11 months ago

Stpuid Giantss, i hatess them

edit: there was suppose to be a pic of Gollum from LOTR but it didnt show

Infield Fly
3 years 11 months ago

We getss it…we doess…my preciouss…

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The_BiRDS
3 years 11 months ago

I was wrong.. WINNER!

The_BiRDS
3 years 11 months ago

That might be the g@yest post I have seen on here yet.

JacksTigers
3 years 11 months ago

It is SanFran.

3 years 11 months ago

I’m not even a Giant fan, in fact, I prefer seeing the great story of D’Backs make the postseason but to see Bell set up for Wilson, that’s just something I have to see.¬†

guydavis
3 years 11 months ago

Isn’t Wilson on the DL? Maybe the injury’s worse than it seemed?

padreshobo
3 years 11 months ago

I wish it was someone outside of our division, but I don’t really want the Padres to get stuck with paying Bell whatever he will get awarded in Arbitration next year. What are the odds that SF and SD could actually reach a deal?

giantsfan4life
3 years 11 months ago

If SF is serious about acquiring him and not simply putting in the claim to block the D’backs or Phillies then it’s possible but would take a decent prospect or 2.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

You hit it… the proverbial nail. SF has no intentions of making a “serious” offer to the Padres. Very low risk move by the Giants… they either get Bell for almost nothing(I don’t believe the Padres would be dumb enough to dump him for nothing) or they block other contenders.

itlynstalyn
3 years 11 months ago

No trade will ever happen, it was just a block.

jhawk1000
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah look at what happened the last time SF blocked a team by claiming a pitcher- they got stuck with what’s his name back in the 90s. Really bad contract, even worse pitcher. They were blocking ATL at the time.

3 years 11 months ago

Then again, the Giants claimed Cody Ross last year as a block and look what happened with him…

itlynstalyn
3 years 11 months ago

Not even close to the same situation. 

Beersy
3 years 11 months ago

I believe you are talkng about Randy Myers and it was the Padres who blocked Atlanta.  But the bad contract and even worse pitcher part was right.  :)

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

Bell is in final year of contract, no chance the Padres simply allow the Giants to take him.

Joe Momma
3 years 11 months ago

Unless the padres are planning on Bell taking up 1/5 of their payroll next year it’s better to get something rather than nothing

NWDC
3 years 11 months ago

How the hell do all these guys either clear waivers or make it all the way to the Giants?¬† First Delmon Young — nobody wanted a 25 year OF that finished 10th in the AL MVP vote last year?¬† For $2 million annually?¬† Are you kidding?¬† Heath Bell, All-Star closer for pocket change (about $1.5 million for the rest of the year).¬† Why doesn’t a team like the Nats or Mets claim him just to screw with the Padres or re-waiver him to another team?¬† Seems like a lot of collusion here.¬† Plus wouldn’t the Nats/Mets get draft picks if Bell left in free agency next year?¬† $1.5 million for a top tier closer for 1 month, chance to trade him or pick up some draft picks.¬† Seems like a no brainer.

Matt Smith
3 years 11 months ago

This was done to block the Phillies from placing a claim. I’m convinced there is absolutely no other reason but to screw the Phils.

NWDC
3 years 11 months ago

So why didn’t the Nats and Mets make a claim?¬† Not worth their time to file the paper?¬† I don’t get it.¬† Nothing to lose by filing a claim, lots to gain if you can work out a good trade or just let SD dump him.¬†

TheFreak2011
3 years 11 months ago

Because they’d have to give up their number one draft pick next year as part of the compensation for him.¬† They’re both building through the draft.

NWDC
3 years 11 months ago

No they wouldn’t — you only have to give up draft pick if you sign as a FA and also you have to be a top half team, neither is right now.¬† No draft picks lost.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

Are you by chance a Phils fan?

3 years 11 months ago

Hey, in the post season you gotta have what everyone else has…NL Setup/Closers

Brewers; K-Rod/Axford
Braves; Venters/Kimbrel
Phils; Lidge/Madson
Giants: Bell/Wilson

proof2006
3 years 11 months ago

Except Lidge is not the setup man or closer..

itlynstalyn
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah except Giants have a R/L split at setup already in Romo and Lopez who are absolutely ridiculous.

rainyperez
3 years 11 months ago

Bell would be also considered a RH specialist just look at his splits. 

So that means Bell pitches the 7th, Romo/Lopez for the 8th, and Wilson closes it out lol. Plain ridiculous.

East Coast Bias
3 years 11 months ago

then maybe you can get that mariano rivera guy for the 6th. RIDICULOUS!!

Dan Wohl
3 years 11 months ago

Don’t forget the Giants already have Romo in the setup position who has been ridiculously good this year. 53/4 K/BB.

rainyperez
3 years 11 months ago

Except having Lopez, Romo, Bell, and Wilson patrolling your backend of the bullpen that=best bullpen in baseball. 

Of course Atlanta’s no slouch but those 4 up there have the experience.¬†

If Giants SPs get at least 6 innings maybe 7 its an automatic win for them. Think how psychologically that would affect other teams in the playoffs.

marinest21
3 years 11 months ago

If Bell goes to the Giants I will throw up.

Ohhhplease
3 years 11 months ago

As a Pads fan, I understand, but I would rather see him go to the Giants now, than accept arbitration this offseason and collect 20% of the Pads salary….would be nice if they could convince him to not accept arb and let him pick where he wants to go in FA (LA, Anaheim) than hold them hostage with an arb acceptance.

TheFreak2011
3 years 11 months ago

Good comment, and that’s why I think the Padres will deal him to the Giants.¬† Pitching is what it’s all about in the playoffs.

cjmsd
3 years 11 months ago

The Padres could release him if he was to accept arbitration. 

3 years 11 months ago

They would still have to pay him regardless.

cjmsd
3 years 11 months ago

If a player accepts arbitration, the team can then release the player prior to the season and only have to pay him a small amount of his contract. It would be a waste of money but they could still get out of the contract were they not able to trade him. 

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

They would not need to release him. Even if he gets a ridiculous $12m in Arb, it would only be 1 year and thus leaves him tradeable still. They may not get as much in return in that situation, but would be better than just releasing him. Plus the threat of trading him to Toronto or some other place he doesnt want to go could disuade him from accepting ARB.

marinest21
3 years 11 months ago

Good points, however let me play Devil’s Advocate for a minute. Say we trade him to the Giants, who offer him arb. at the end of year and he rejects, giving SF two draft picks. I cannot understand how the Padres think they can win by doing that.

2 mos. of Bell plus the Giants getting a 1st and supplemental round draft picks OR having SF resign Bell and put him in the back of the bullpen w/Wilson for the next 3 is just too much.

3 years 11 months ago

If Bell signed with the Padres in free agency that 1st round pick would be protected.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

This is why a deal wont happen without the Giants giving up at least 1 good prospect.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

Not gonna happen unless the Giants pony up!

3 years 11 months ago

Hey Giants You Need Offense!

TheFreak2011
3 years 11 months ago

As they proved last year, it’s not as important as pitching in the playoffs.

guydavis
3 years 11 months ago

They didn’t prove anything in one postseason. Far too small a sample size to say what’s more important.

JacksTigers
3 years 11 months ago

Yeah. You could say that if they got eliminated in game 7 of the NLCS. But they won the World Series. They have nothing else to prove.

guydavis
3 years 11 months ago

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. Yes they proved themselves and whatever, but one winning postseason doesn’t mean that pitching wins postseasons. It’s too small a sample size. I don’t like that people jump to that conclusion just because the Giants managed to do it that way.

TheFreak2011
3 years 11 months ago

I think it’s a block move on the D’Backs, but if the Giants get in to the playoffs, not a lock for sure, they’re going to be trouble for anyone with that pitching staff, provided they make a deal for Bell.

SP-Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner and Vogelsong
RP-Mota, Ramirez, Affelt, Casilla, Lopez, Romo, Bell
Closer-Wilson or Bell

They’d match up with the Phillies and Braves in a short series since good pitching will usually stop good hitters in the short term.

But, they have to get there first.

3 years 11 months ago

Not exactly a shocker with Wilson down, and KT’s (Az.) interest in Bell in the division. Still unlikely. Unless they want to unload Bells contract in stern. We’ll know soon. Giants wouldn’t have to give up that much. Probably less that what’s being reported, in matching two comp picks if the Padres are seriously concerned about Bell accepting arbitration. He’s (Bell) said he would, I’m not so sure.

padresfuture
3 years 11 months ago

What contract? $1m? If his remaining salary was their concern, he would have been traded at the deadline.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 11 months ago

Giants are just mad the Padres are going to sweep them and could possibly do some major damage with 18 games left vs. the Giants and AZ. Go Pads! 

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 11 months ago

Kyle Blanks going yard off the Ambulance was pretty sweet too! Take that Matt Cain

sf55forlife
3 years 11 months ago

Jonathan Sanchez’s triple.¬†

That is all.

jwp619
3 years 11 months ago

Jonathan Sanchez’s guarantee sweep over the Padres in 2010… Opps!
Jonathan Sanchez losing a 1 hitter to the Padres… THAT IS ALL!!!

sf55forlife
3 years 11 months ago

If that gives you satisfaction then bless your soul.

jwp619
3 years 11 months ago

What gives me satisfaction is Barry Zito’s contract.

3 years 11 months ago

And yet they still won the division last year over the padres and the world series.  THAT IS ALL!!!

candlestick22
3 years 11 months ago

Actually that’s not all: Jonathan Sanchez beating the Pads (including hitting a triple) and clinching the NL West last day of the season, and Jonathan Sanchez no-hitting the Pads. I think I’ll take those 2 preeeeeetty much any day of the week.

vatocuz619
3 years 11 months ago

Obviously the point is dude hits a homerun 2 days ago, giants fans brings up Sanchez’s triple from last year. Whats the point. If that’s the case, Yanks beat giants in the ’62 world series… suck it SF

Ohhhplease
3 years 11 months ago

Ok Giants fans, what would you realistically give for Bell?¬† Please don’t tell me that your backup catcher for the Flying Squirells is a future hall of famer…

Alex (not Pav)
3 years 11 months ago

Depends on how badly Romo and Wilson are hurt. Romo should be back within a week or so but Wilson is the key. If he’s hurt worse than anyone is letting on, I can see Surkamp + a fielding prospect for Bell and maybe some cash? I know the Giants were adamant about not really dumping anymore bats but for Bell I would. Especially since the Giants could seemingly offer him Arbitration and see him decline and get tons more money in the free market (if he’s a FA, wasn’t sure) and get draft picks in return.

ramjamrock
3 years 11 months ago

There is absolutely zero chance of them trading Surkamp. He was the reason they felt they were able to send Wheeler to the Mets. Now with Zito and Sanchez hurt (it was reported that Sanchez will not make his next start, either), there is a possibility they could bring up Surkamp to take the 5th spot in the rotation this week.

They won’t trade Brown, and they couldn’t trade Panik if they wanted to (draft/trade rules)

I think if they were willing to trade anyone, it would be from the 40-man roster, and would be from a the pool of: Waldis Joaquin, Clayton Tanner, Conor Gillaspie, or Darren Ford.

I’m not saying a combination of the above is a fair price, just what I believe the Giants FO would be willing to part with from the 40-man. There may be other minor leaguers they’d be willing to trade, but no one who would make a large impact at the Major League level.

keepinthefaith23
3 years 11 months ago

I guess the Giants don’t like losing to the Padres and would hate to have the Padres get something in return for Bell.¬† Also, forcing the Padres to offer arbitration to Bell (which he will accept) and locking up 20% of the Padres expected salary for next year (50MM).¬† I hate you, Sabean.

ramjamrock
3 years 11 months ago

It has nothing to do with hurting the Padres. It has everything to do with blocking the Diamondbacks.

Sure, hate Sabean for your player holding your team hostage with the arbitration. That’s logical.

dc21892
3 years 11 months ago

Nice. Curious to see how this one plays out.

Bye Bye Baby Bonanza
3 years 11 months ago

Nice.¬† Hopefully they get a deal done.¬† If not it’s a good block to prevent their competitors from getting better.

3 years 11 months ago

intrigued by the Bell situation. Make something happen Hoyer!