NL East Notes: Nationals, Hamels, Pelfrey, Braves

Jimmy Rollins announced on Twitter that he has a mild grade 2 groin strain and will be on the disabled list until September. Here's the latest on the 81-44 Phillies and the rest of their division…

  • Ryan Zimmerman repeated to MLB.com's Bill Ladson that he'd like to spend his entire career in Washington. The third baseman is set to hit free agency after the 2013 season.
  • Scouts tell Bob Nightengale of USA Today that the Nationals will be powerful in a couple of years and would compete in the NL West right now (Twitter link).
  • The Phillies and Cole Hamels want to work out a long-term deal this offseason, according to Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Gelb shows that Jered Weaver is about as statistically similar to Hamels as possible and suggests that the Phillies and Hamels could agree to a contract that mimics Weaver's recent five-year, $85MM extension. Hamels should earn more than Weaver, given his higher 2011 salary and proximity to free agency. 
  • Mets manager Terry Collins asked starter Mike Pelfrey if he'd be up for becoming the team's closer in 2012 and Pelfrey said he "absolutely" would, according to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News. However, it's unlikely that Pelfrey will become the Mets' closer, since GM Sandy Alderson is opposed to the idea, Martino writes. Check out CloserNews.com for more on each team’s bullpen. 
  • Braves GM Frank Wren told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that he has focused on adding speed in recent years, bringing in players such as Jose Constanza and Michael Bourn.
  • Braves reliever Eric O'Flaherty switched agents and is now a client of Dan Lozano's Icon Sports Group, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown (on Twitter). Steve Canter formerly represented the left-hander, who will be arbitration eligible for the second time after the season. Keep track of each player's representation with MLBTR's Agency Database.


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37 Comments on "NL East Notes: Nationals, Hamels, Pelfrey, Braves"


HTF
4 years 13 days ago

Braves would be smart in trying to trade O’Flaherty in the offseason off his career year. His arb bump is going to be significant. We have Vizcaino more than ready to assume the 7th inning role. 

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

I agree that EOF is fixin’ to get way richer, but he is currently fairly affordable at $895K. And I am not 100% sure that the organization views Vizcaino as a bullpen guy for forever. If they do then I’m all for selling high on EOF.

inkstainedscribe
4 years 13 days ago

Do the Braves have any lefties in the high minors that might replace EOF? Or at least be a LOOGY if not a one-inning guy?

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

No, but you can always get a LOOGY for under $1M. I personally say keep EOF and pay him what he gets in arbitration, I was just saying if Vizcaino is viewed as a reliever then I could see the logic of trading high on O’Flaherty since this almost certainly will be his career year. But even if he “regresses” to his 2010 numbers he would be worth his arbitration raise for one more year.

Jeff
4 years 12 days ago

I think we’d have to re-sign Sherill and EOF.  Nothing wrong with that.  Venters is also a LHP if needed.

Jeff
4 years 12 days ago

EOF at $2-3 mil next year is still a steal, even if his ERA regresses to 2.25 or 2.5.

Moylan’s the one who has to go, he’s still very good, but Gearrin’s a cheaper Moylan.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

I don’t disagree that Moylan and his relatively high salary seem expendable, but the “EOF at $2-3 mil next year is still a steal, even if his ERA regresses to 2.25 or 2.5″ part is sketchy to me. It assumes that is the worst that will happen, and the fact is that is still significantly better than his career numbers AND it doesn’t take into account the workload EOF will have seen by year end. If I could look into the old crystal ball and see that EOF would put up 2010-like numbers for 2011 and 2012 then I’d jump all over offering him a 2 year/$4M contract, but I am less than confident that he can do that (albeit very hopeful).

Don’t forget that the whole reason EOF got his shot with the Braves is because they were unwilling to give Will Ohman a 2-year deal worth about $4M and in retrospect that seems wise.

bigpat
4 years 13 days ago

Why in the hell would Mike Pelfrey become the Met’s closer? His only good quality is providing semi-respectable innings. I don’t think he has the stuff to excel at closer, that would be pointless. 

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 13 days ago

Well his splits do show he’s better going through the batting order the first time around… so there is an argument, albeit a weak one.

Though I’m not sure an ineffective $6M closer is better than an ineffective $6M starter.

4 years 13 days ago

I guess with Pelf as the closer, we can delay that 6th inning collapse until the 9th inning.

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

Agreed… I don’t think a lot of managers would look at a 1.406 WHIP, 5.0 SO/9, and a 1.77 SO/BB and think “THAT guy should be my closer”. As a Braves fan I’m all for it, though.

Joseph Wilson
4 years 13 days ago

Vizcaino never going to crack the starting rotation?!?! Are you smoking crack?!? Lowe and Hudson gone in the next 2 years, and we are paying only Hanson or JJ, NOT BOTH. Vizcaino throws 98 and our #@HTF:disqus  SP prospect. He will be in that rotation in less than 2 years. The ONLY reason he is in the pen right now is because we capped his innings this year and moved him to the pen less than 2 months ago because he was reaching his innings cap.

LUWahooNatFan
4 years 13 days ago

Scouts tell Bob Nightengale of USA Today that the Nationals will be powerful in a couple of years and would compete in the NL West right now (Twitter link).

Well yeah, it’s the N.L. West..

angryredmenace
4 years 12 days ago

Exactly, the N.L. West is hands down the worst division in all of baseball, and it been that way for years now.If you put any team in the national league west into another division, say the N.L. East OR A.L. East they would most likely be at the bottom of the division year in year out.

JacksTigers
4 years 13 days ago

Tim Brown is terrible. He actually wrote an entire piece about how Tigers color commentator, Rod Allen, is racist towards hispanics and that he should be fired because of it. Those statements were false. I refuse to read anything that he writes.

FacelessGeneralManager
4 years 13 days ago

Nationals, Please lock up Zim! Give him a tulo type deal!!

kräftig. entschieden
4 years 13 days ago

The Nationals should listen to offers on Zim this offseason, coming from a Nats fan. If he was put on the market, he’d be twice as valuable as anyone presently on the trading block, with two years of team control over one of the best overall players in the game. If they can get a monster deal for him, they should swing it. It would be tough for any team to put together a package good enough to land him, though.

FS54
4 years 13 days ago

Are you kidding me? Why would Nationals trade one solid everyday player? They can not possibly justify this deal to their fans. Besides Werth and maybe Morse, everyone else including Danny, Desi, Ramos, and others are still adjusting to ML pitching. And you are suggesting that trade that one all-star player we have?

As far as I know, signing Zimm to a long term contract is one of the top priorities this off-season.

nats2012
4 years 12 days ago

No way.

dylanp5030
4 years 13 days ago

Does Zimmerman throwing to first base scare anyone else? I’ve never seen a third baseman look so awkward throwing to first base. If he makes a couple really bad throws, it could get in his head and be like Knoblach. I’m a huge Zim fan, but that would scare me a bit if I’m the Nats.

nats2012
4 years 12 days ago

He made those adjustments after the injury and after this season he will go back to his regular motion.

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

He’s had a great year, no doubt, but he almost certainly won’t repeat this performance (his ERA is more than 2 full runs better than his career numbers and his FIP is almost a run better). Having said that, with Venters and Kimbrel making less combined than EOF, I wouldn’t hate to see them spend a little to lock him up.

inkstainedscribe
4 years 13 days ago

Well, McDowell has been able to coach up several castoffs from other organizations. Perhaps he can work that magic on another free agent reliever this off-season if the Braves decide to trade O’Flaherty.

4 years 13 days ago

“I agree Vizcaino is never going to crack the starting rotation”

Eh? Some scouts like this guy more than Teheran. I’d say the odds of him cracking the rotation at some point after this season are at least 50-50, unless he’s traded…..obviously.

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

I seriously doubt that the Braves would pay Hudson $9M for 1 more year after his contract is up (and he could certainly get another 3 year deal somewhere) with all the cheap depth they have. They could conceivably have a rotation making less than Hudson alone in 2013. That’s hard for a mid-market team to turn down.

4 years 13 days ago

I really hope Jurrjens is flipped in the offseason…..

4 years 13 days ago

Dont forget Medlen.

migueljablonski
4 years 13 days ago

couldn’t agree more. Seems like an injury waiting to happen

kräftig. entschieden
4 years 13 days ago

You obviously don’t care about the Nats if you think Burnett is part of a good pitching corps. Also, where does Morse play if you have Harper and Werth in the outfield corners?

LUWahooNatFan
4 years 13 days ago

Ramos, Espinosa, Zimmerman, Zimmermann, Clippard, and Storen are a good start

Farm system has a lot more talent in it then the barren piece of s*** the MLB left the Nationals when they moved to D.C.

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

I would take my chances with a rotation of of Hanson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Teheran, and Minor/Delgado/Vizcaino (or even Medlen). Hudson has a $13M club option for 2013 and I just can’t fathom a scenario where it gets picked up with that many talented young arms waiting in the wings.

Brad426
4 years 13 days ago

I would take my chances with a rotation of of Hanson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Teheran, and Minor/Delgado/Vizcaino (or even Medlen). Hudson has a $13M club option for 2013 and I just can’t fathom a scenario where it gets picked up with that many talented young arms waiting in the wings.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

According to Cot’s he has a $13M option for 2013. And I would call McCann the leader of the team, for what that’s worth.

And I guess I should have said “I can’t imagine a PROBABLE scenario where the Braves would pick up the option”, as if several guys got injured or didn’t pan out I could see it. I just don’t see a team with a self-imposed salary cap paying $13M to a 39-year-old pitcher when they have a stable full of younger, cheaper arms waiting to go.

Time will tell, I guess, but I feel strongly that I will end up being right. If I’m not, I’ll man up and buy you a $7 beer at a game or something.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

Not according to Cot’s.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

Not according to Cot’s.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

You’re right.

Brad426
4 years 12 days ago

You’re right.