Offseason Outlook: New York Mets

The Mets' attempt to re-sign Jose Reyes will dominate their offseason and determine how much they can spend on other areas of need, like the bullpen.

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Arbitration Eligible Players (estimated salaries)

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As expected, 2011 was a year of transition for the Mets.  New GM Sandy Alderson did fine work in escaping Francisco Rodriguez's vesting option and maximizing the return on Carlos Beltran.  Alderson's most debatable decision, though, was not trading Jose Reyes at the July deadline.  Reyes' status is now likely to shape the Mets' offseason.

Reyes missed about six weeks of the season, enduring two separate DL stints due to a hamstring injury.  The Mets must determine whether they see Reyes as a player who can be depended upon for only 130 games a year moving forward, or one capable of returning to the 150-games-played plateau.  Reyes' season was phenomenal even with the time missed, and his strong finish bodes well for him in free agency.  Still, all five to seven year, $100MM+ contracts are very risky.  So far, Alderson's biggest risk as Mets GM was keeping Reyes.  If that July decision doesn't result in an offseason discount, the Mets will have to settle for a couple of draft picks.

Wright had a disappointing season as he missed more than two months with a back injury.  Trading him now would result in a disappointing return.  Wright can void his 2013 club option if traded, meaning Alderson only would be offering one season of the third baseman.  The Beltran formula might be applied here: Alderson could hope Wright rebuilds his value in the first few months of 2012 and becomes the best bat on the trade market.  Players like Pelfrey and Pagan could also become useful trade chips.  I'd tender contracts to both despite their disappointing 2011 seasons.

If the Mets don't re-sign Reyes, another consolidation season might be in order.  Daniel Murphy, Lucas Duda, and Josh Thole had promising seasons, and the rotation has useful pieces.  Still, the team is facing question marks all around the diamond and in the rotation.  I think they can contend if Reyes returns and Wright, Santana, and Bay also contribute star-caliber seasons, but that's unlikely and reason to find Alderson's decision to keep Reyes confusing.  In Alderson's defense, Reyes spent half of July on the disabled list, perhaps cutting down his trade value to the point that two draft picks wasn't much worse.

A $110MM payroll would give the Mets plenty of flexibility, and the bullpen will be one focus.  I expect Alderson to make improvements, yet still exercise caution and avoid a big commitment to any one reliever.  The rotation is a similar issue, with Alderson needing to make a few more Capuano-type signings.  Hopefully if Reyes leaves there won't be an expectation to spend the entire surplus just for the sake of spending.  The team just has too many questions to make 2012 contention likely.

Plenty of questions remain in Irving Picard's lawsuit against Mets owners Saul Katz and Fred Wilpon, but the tide seems to be turning in the owners' favor with a judge capping their potential loss at $386MM.  Should Picard fail to prove the Mets owners were willfully blind to Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme, they might have to pay out less than $100MM.

Perhaps by 2013 the Mets can have the Picard lawsuit settled and the decks mostly cleared of bad contracts.  Alderson can make determinations on the futures of Reyes and Wright, while his other big-money players, Santana and Bay, will be entering their walk years barring vesting options.  The Mets will have more clarity on players such as Ike Davis, Jon Niese, Bobby Parnell, Duda, and Murphy, while Jenrry Mejia should be fully recovered from Tommy John surgery.  If Alderson continues laying a proper foundation, the Mets should be competitive by '13. 


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  1. Lastings 4 years ago

    The Mets offseason began back in April and lasted until September. It’s November-March when they are most active, and they aren’t even that active during that time.

    • diesel2410 4 years ago

      Offseason outlook: New York Mets: 

      a) Get a winning record
      b) Don’t come in last
      c) If within reach for a playoff spot (big if), then don’t choke
      d) ūüėÄ

      • rwdavis22461 4 years ago

        Coming in last place or 2nd plalce does not matter if your not in the hunt at all. They do not give rewards to Almost as the Red Sox.. So we need to build regardless if Jose is or is not here.  The question is if we sign Reyes what then will happen to Wright. both should be part of the future at 28 and adding younger players like Ike and Tejada and Niece to the mix is a good starting point but you still need more.  But more then a player or two Mets need luck in the health aspect . If they keep players on the field then they will be tougher 

    • diesel2410 4 years ago

      Offseason outlook: New York Mets: 

      a) Get a winning record
      b) Don’t come in last
      c) If within reach for a playoff spot (big if), then don’t choke
      d) ūüėÄ

    • And I thought Bob Hope was dead!

  2. Rick Garcia 4 years ago

    I hope they re-sign Reyes but I’m not sure if another large contract is what the Mets need

  3. mike piazza 4 years ago

    trade pelfrey and wright in june when hopefully they rebuilt their value
    non tender paulino and pagan
    let reyes walk

    • chicothekid 4 years ago

      There is absolutely NO reason whatsoever to non tender Paulino.¬† He’s making peanuts and is a serviceable backup and with another year and a little more playing time, could become a type B FA.¬† If they gave him a few more starts, they could play their way into an extra draft pick and hopefully, light a fire under Thole.

      Paulino will be in a Mets uniform next year unless he gets traded in the off season, but that contract will get offered, and you can take that one to the bank. 

      Why don’t you and doc go back and come up with some more creative trade proposals for Lincecum or Verlander now?

      • mike piazza 4 years ago

        mike nickeas can take ronny paulinos place both are right handed back up catchers
        nickeas is cheaper and younger
         

        • Mike Nickeas might have been the most frustrating player to watch on the Mets last year.¬†

          • mike piazza 4 years ago

            no that would be ryota igarashi

          • MetsFanXXIII 4 years ago

            Carrasco was worse.

          • eh, I expected him to suck … same with pelfrey

            most frustrating for me was Parnell, he just could not lock down the closer role

          • Are you joking? Mike Nickeas?? Are you talking about the guy that is a career .237 hitting in 8 minor league seasons and hasn’t done anything in the majors as well?

            Sorry, I’d rather have Paulino.

        • icedrake523 4 years ago

          Nickeas? He’s 28 and bounced back and forth between AAA and AA the last 4 years. There’s no reason why he should take Paulino’s spot.

          • mike piazza 4 years ago

            if not nickeas than any other minimum catcher
            just saying that paulino is an average backstop and he is one place that the mets could cut back on their payroll
            no disrespect to paulino he seem like a good dude

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

            Paulino’s contract is less than $2M. Getting rid of it will barely make an impact. Considering how Thole regressed, they’re better off keeping Paulino. There’s no way Nickeas could be a backup catcher or split time 50/50 with Thole. He may be cheaper than Paulino, but you get what you pay for.

          • LongTimeFan1 4 years ago

            I disagree. I’d rather have Nickeas over Paulino, hands down. Nickeas is an excellent, well-prepared backstop, a calming presence, and with proper instruction at the dish and better game plan, there’s no reason he couldn’t contribute with the bat and be a Jerry Grote type.

            It seems to me he’s spent so much time on being good defensive catcher, that his hitting development has taken back seat. He has good hitting mechanics and shows pockets of good plate discipline. The tools are there, he just needs to better apply them.

          • LongTimeFan1 4 years ago

            I disagree. I’d rather have Nickeas over Paulino, hands down. Nickeas is an excellent, well-prepared backstop, a calming presence, and with proper instruction at the dish and better game plan, there’s no reason he couldn’t contribute with the bat and be a Jerry Grote type.

            It seems to me he’s spent so much time on being good defensive catcher, that his hitting development has taken back seat. He has good hitting mechanics and shows pockets of good plate discipline. The tools are there, he just needs to better apply them.

          • Guest 4 years ago

            You’d save $1 million.¬† Are the Mets there?

          • mike piazza 4 years ago

            that million could go to the bullpen

  4. mattmosher 4 years ago

    The Mets won’t be competitive until 2014 at the absolute earliest. There’s no way in hell Reyes stays, because they wont top the highest offer. Nor should they.

    • guydavis 4 years ago

      2013 is by no means written off. 2012 is a push for sure.

  5. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    That’s great news about the lawsuit.

  6. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    That’s great news about the lawsuit.

    • Infield Fly 4 years ago

      Not if it means the Wilpons are going to remain the owners it isn’t. :(

      • Baseballfan83 4 years ago

        They where never going anywhere lawsuit or not. 

        • Infield Fly 4 years ago

          At the time the lawsuit was first filed nobody could have realistically predicted what would happen – as shown by the many competing theories and alternate scenarios that were thrown around at the time. It seemed just as possible that the Wilpons might win their case as Picard & Co. might win theirs, and certainly if things had gone a different way and the lawsuit had cleaned the Wilpons out, they would have been forced to sell. There were never any guarantees of anything.

          This is one of those 20/20 hindsight deals.

          • Baseballfan83 4 years ago

            I never saw any reason to¬†believe¬†the Wilpons would lose and most¬†legal¬†analysts¬†said the same. It’s not 20/20 hindsight if it’s what you said all along. There was never any point when there ownership was questioned or at risk. Investors in a Ponzi do not repay the full loss and there is no¬†proof¬†Wilpon was anything more than an investor.¬†

    • Infield Fly 4 years ago

      Not if it means the Wilpons are going to remain the owners it isn’t. :(

  7. It’s unfortunate, but with the exception of Reyes, this offseason will largely resemble last offseason; looking for cheap, slightly above replacement level players as stop gaps until contract and ownership situations resolve themselves, and some of the farm hands are ready to contribute.

    The bullpen needs significant work. Buchholz and Carrasco were good signings at the time that didn’t pan out, Parnell struggled, and Igarashi was flat out terrible. Izzy, Acosta and Byrdak were all pretty good, and Herrara was a nice surprise, but not much to hang your hat on heading into 2012.

    As for Reyes, I will be very disappointed if they don’t re-sign him. Durability issues aside (though he has shown he can play a full season, 2005-2008) there is no way the Mets will be able to even sniff his production on shortstop if he walks.

  8. It’s unfortunate, but with the exception of Reyes, this offseason will largely resemble last offseason; looking for cheap, slightly above replacement level players as stop gaps until contract and ownership situations resolve themselves, and some of the farm hands are ready to contribute.

    The bullpen needs significant work. Buchholz and Carrasco were good signings at the time that didn’t pan out, Parnell struggled, and Igarashi was flat out terrible. Izzy, Acosta and Byrdak were all pretty good, and Herrara was a nice surprise, but not much to hang your hat on heading into 2012.

    As for Reyes, I will be very disappointed if they don’t re-sign him. Durability issues aside (though he has shown he can play a full season, 2005-2008) there is no way the Mets will be able to even sniff his production on shortstop if he walks.

  9. Infield Fly 4 years ago

    I hope they non-tender (or trade) Mike Pelfrey. He’s nothing but a a cheap warm body and a bunch of guaranteed losses – something no GM should be shooting for. It definitely wouldn’t kill me if they found a way to get rid of Parnell either. Talk about 2 guys who just don’t learn!

  10. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    For how good Santana used to be, who would have though that contract would become a huge issue.

    • East Coast Bias 4 years ago

      It isn’t, yet. If Santana comes back and is close to his old self, he will earn his $. The fault lies in ownership/leadership not surrounding him with sufficient talent during his prime.

    • Not4 4 years ago

      I think you have that backwards.¬† Regardless of how good Santana was (and hopefully will be again), who didn’t have at least some concerns about giving a pitcher with a history of arm and knee problems a 7 year mega deal?¬† I was equally glad and concerned at the time it was given (just being a jaded Met fan who figured he blows out his knee in his first spring training and never comes back).¬† Even now, I don’t see his contract as an albatross yet as East Coast noted.¬† Hopefully he comes back as good as ever – maybe with a little less “stuff”, but with all the competitiveness and pitching smarts that made him great in the first place.

      So, in fairness, “who would have thought” isn’t quite the right way to look at it.

  11. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    For how good Santana used to be, who would have though that contract would become a huge issue.

  12. NyMetsBoy31 4 years ago

    Thole had anything but a promising season, both at the plate and behind it.

  13. Loody 4 years ago

    Outside of their attempt to resign Reyes, I do expect it to be a relatively quiet offseason. However, unlike last offseason, I do think that there is the potential for the Mets to look into making some potential trades that could help them for 2012 and possibly beyond. I don’t think the Jason Bay contract is as untradeable as others (obviously I could be wrong). But there seem to be similar bad contracts out there that perhaps the Mets could look to swap. I have been harping on it for a while, but I have always thought that the Mets and White Sox could get together on a Jason Bay for Jake Peavy swap. With his connections to the front office (Alderson and DePodesta were in San Diego) and a return to the NL, I always thought Peavy would thrive. I also always thought he could potentially be turned into a devastating closer (he has a reputation for being able to warm up quickly and has been open to the idea). Bay would be going back to the AL where he had his best years. This is not only a case of contract for contract, but also a case of two players who probably need a change of scenery.

    It would be creative trades like these that I think the Mets might be able to pull off in the offseason. Of course there is risk involved for both teams. 

    • juliusvernon 4 years ago

      Bay’s best years weren’t really in Boston.¬† He had a couple of great years with the Pirates.¬† This isn’t a league issue with Bay, it’s a “he’s done” issue.

  14. The Orioles need a bit more of this themselves: The rotation is a similar issue, with Alderson needing to make a few more Capuano-type signings.

    Heck, I want Capuano as well!

  15. greggofboken 4 years ago

    I would take the reverse of the stance advocated here, and take the risk of non-tendering Pelfrey, and keeping Pagan.¬† The risk of Pelfrey not rebounding and having no trade value is too great.¬† (He’s been this poor before.)¬† Pagan performed below expectations and could have value however.

    Paulino has fallen in disfavor b/c of a failure to follow game plans.¬† Still, the point is well-made that he’s imminently affordable.¬† Catching being in short supply as it is around the majors, re-up him and try to move him.

    Everything this off-season revolves around Reyes, including the future of Wright.¬† Reyes becomes as nearly as much a stress test of how big a hit the ticket revenues can take as his on-field value.¬† If Reyes isn’t re-upped, Wright goes nowhere unless the club is completely in the tank at the break.¬† If he is, Wright becomes a trade candidate.¬† While Alderson may prefer to avoid the risk of a reasonable (5 yr/$90M) deal for Reyes (perhaps more w/incentives), he does not operate in a vacuum.¬† He will have to weigh the declining ticket revenue and the difficult financial straits into this equation.¬†

  16. PRKnight 4 years ago

    There are alot of things the mets have to decide on this winter, and as a guy who has a lot of family who are met fans they are just fed up with the disappointments but things got to happen before this mess can be turned around.  Some suggestions i have are 
    1. Let reyes walk. As much as i love him as a player the contract stuff just won’t add up to the future plans. Just get the picks and hope they turn out descent¬†2. Keep the non tender candidates. I like pegan but knowing how some met fans want him gone, keep him till his value is better than trade him. ¬†I don’t think pridie is the answer at all.3. Get Pelfrey out of NY. He is just terrible! I would keep him for the year to eat up some innings but once the chance comes get him out.4. Build up trade value for Wright. ¬†I used to think that reyes and wright could some day do something positive but it hasn’t happen and its just time to cut ties. ¬†I would of kept one of either Wright or Reyes but more and more i watch this team i can handle both gone. ¬†I would want the losing ways free from the locker room. PLus i just don’t feel he’s a leader at all. A lot of ya might disagree but i just don’t see it in him. ¬†5. Endure all the scrutinizing from the media for the losing. ¬†Its going to take time for sure but mets fans r just going to have to realize this is a working progress and Alderson is doing well.

  17. Blue387 4 years ago

    Why has no one mentioned Ruben Tejada? I want the team to keep Reyes because Ruben Tejada would be the shortstop if he leaves and Tejada is not a good hitter. He has a sub-700 OPS in 96 games in 2011 with no home runs. He is good defensively but I don’t see Tejada suddenly developing more power, especially at 22 years old playing at Citi Field. A 22 year old ballplayer is mostly developed at that point and I don’t see Tejada as a good replacement. I don’t see him getting better and I cannot accept replacing all-star Jose Reyes with .696 OPS Ruben Tejada.

    It’s like replacing a Mercedes-Benz with a Mini Cooper.

    The Mets should also look into improving the bullpen. Just from memory alone: the Mets blew a June game against Milwaukee at home and Jason Isringhausen blew a save against Milwaukee in August. D.J. Carrasco balked in the game-ending run in Atlanta in June. And Bobby Parnell blew a save against Washington in September by loading up the bases and gave up a bloop single to right. The Mets need better relievers.

    Mike Pelfrey also needs to be cut.

    • mike piazza 4 years ago

      even with reyes we would still be a .500 team at best. id rather see them rebuilt so we could be a real contender a few years from now

    • Baseballfan83 4 years ago

      Why are so set in the SS needing to have power. There are very few that do and Tejeda looks to be a solid average major league SS. 22 is not fully developed either i don’t know where you got an idea like that.¬†

      • HobokenMetsFan 4 years ago

        “22 is not fully developed either i don’t know where you got an idea like that.”¬†¬†¬†¬†¬† I was a bit perplexed by this too, especially since players dont hit their prime until 27/28. Hell, I’m gunna be 28 in december of this year and I’m much bigger/stronger now then i was at 22….

  18. Dave_in_Spain 4 years ago

    The pen was bad in part because of who they were, but in large part because the starting pitching couldn’t go deep. I think the Mets need at least one other SP who can go deep and provide a better WHIP than Pelfrey. I’d trade Pelf and sign a couple of FAs or trade for some mid-range durable pitchers. I wonder what E.Jackson will command on the market this year? Some of the minor league pitching prospects like Harvey, Familia, Mejia, and Wheeler might get some ML work in 2012, but even in 2013 they’ll just be coming up and will have some rough patches to go through. They won’t have much impact until 2014 anyway. Some stability beyond Dickey would be nice.

  19. The Mets would have been competitive this year if not for all the injuries.¬† Even if ’12 is primarily a rebuilding year there’s no reason we can’t be in the hunt, as long as we’re healthy.

  20. I think the Mets need to resign Reyes and look to build an infield of Davis, Tejada, Reyes and Wright. I’m hoping that by moving the walls down 8 ft, it’ll have an impact on both Wright’s and Bay’s bat. Duda should be suffient in RF and I think going after a high risk/high reward guy like Siezmore for CF would be good (I’m assuming that Cleveland will let him go).

    You certainly can make an attempt to sign a workhorse like Buehrle (assuming he becomes a FA as well) to give you a rotation of Santana, Buehrle, Dickey, Niese and Pelf.

    And, of course, there are plenty of CP on the market as well as BP guys to add.

    I’m not saying that would win the Division but it may make the Mets a serviceable team for the next couple of year until their Minor Leaguers can develop – they’ve got a lot of talent in the pipeline…

  21. Christopher Soto 4 years ago

    First: Re-sign Reyes. If we can get him back to Queens for 5-6 yrs and 16-18 mil a year, pull the trigger.

    Second: tender Pelfrey a contract for $5mil and let Pagan walk.

    Third: Sign a closer for no more than 2yrs/$7mil per year (preferably 5 a yr)

    Fourth: Sign CF Nate McLouth. Give Kirk Nieuwenheis an opportunity in ST to win the job. If not he’s in AAA McLouth is the starter and Pridie is the 4th OF. If he wins Kirk starts, McLouth is the 4th, and Pridie is DFA’d

    Last: 3 year Extension to Niese and 4 yrs extension to Davis effective 2013. Lock these guys up now while they are cheap to avoid likely heavy raises in Arbitration years. (especially with Davis) 

    • Christopher Soto 4 years ago

      Those moves will make the team look like this:

      SP Santana            $24M
      SP Dickey               $4.75M
      SP Niese                $min
      SP Pelfrey              $5M (after arb)
      SP Gee                  $min
      CL Broxton??           $5M
      RP Parnell               $min
      RP Acosta              $0.75M (after arb)
      RP Brydak               $1.2M? (anyone know what his extension was for)
      RP Herrera              $min
      RP Beato                $min
      RP Carrasco            $1.2M
      C  Thole                $min
      1B Davis                $min
      2B Tejeda              $min
      SS Reyes               $18M
      3B Wright               $15.25M
      LF Bay                   $18.13M
      CF Nieuwenheis       $min  
      RF Duda                 $min
      C Paulino                $1.75M (after arb)
      IF Turner                $min
      IF Murphy               $min
      OF McLouth            $3M (made $6.5M last year so its a 50% cut)
      UT Evans                $min

      Total Salary (assuming league minimum is $500k): $104.53. I think Alderson will be very happy with this number.

      • jayl78 4 years ago

        Guys who have been up for a while (Niese, Murphy, etc) don’t make the league minimum, they can’t.¬† So that 104 number is a bit low, so probably looking closer to a 110 number, which is why they may non tender Pelfrey as well

        • Christopher Soto 4 years ago

          nope they still make league minimum due to the fact that they are not arbitration eligible yet.

    • I’d say go after Siezmore, instead of McClouth. I’d also kick the tires on Buehrle and see what he’s asking for. He’s an innings eater and would be a solid #2 behind Santana; 2/3 year contact, tops.

    • MR1213 4 years ago

      That’s pretty smart

  22. Jason 4 years ago

    Mets should let Jose Reyes walk use some of that money and the picks to spend big on the draft. Then make a run at Matt Kemp next year.

  23. MR1213 4 years ago

    Don’t trade wright

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Why? If somebody’s willing to overpay for him, they should do that deal in a heartbeat.

      They shouldn’t trade him for some team’s crap but if they get a deal that’s going to make their organization better in the future, they should do it.

      • alphakira 4 years ago

        Why would anyone overpay for him? The Giants only gave up a solid AAA pitcher for a half of a year Beltran – why would someone give up anything more for 1 years worth of a questionable Wright?¬† The smart business move would be to NOT trade Wright.¬† No one’s coming out to a ballpark where Reyes OR Wright won’t be there. As a Mets fan I’d rather have another year rooting for Wright to get back on track than having to hope for a prospect to turn into what Wright used to be.

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          You won’t be saying that in 2-3 years when David Wright is gone and there’s nobody to replace him. Or if he gets hurt next year and never turns into the player he should be.

          I understand not wanting to watch the franchise player leave but some team sees him as the missing piece of a championship caliber ball club. It’s Alderson’s job to find that team and get pieces to help them win in the future… The best way to do that is by trading Wright, not delaying the rebuilding process by appeasing to the fans.

          He already made that mistake with Jose Reyes and he’ll be lucky to get a 1st round pick and a supplemental round pick for him.
          _______________

          As for Beltran… the Giants gave up their best pitching prospect and one of the best prospects in baseball… They significantly overpayed for Beltran… somebody would do the same with David Wright, who’s a better player on and off the field.

          • the thing you’re not getting here is¬†if reyes leaves, wright is more than likely going to get extended. i’ll take the chance and see if wright has a serious enough injury that he “never turns into the player he should be.”

            but even if the mets do go the route of trading him, why do it now and completely eliminate any chance of this team being contenders for the next few years? at least let the season play out a little, have him rebuild some more trade value (change in citi field dimensions/wall height next season) and then if they decide that’s what they want to do pull the trigger then. i just don’t think they’d really get blown away with an offer this offseason, in contrast to early next season when he hopefully gets off to a hot start

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Why? If somebody’s willing to overpay for him, they should do that deal in a heartbeat.

      They shouldn’t trade him for some team’s crap but if they get a deal that’s going to make their organization better in the future, they should do it.

  24. pretty much every single one of you is dead wrong on mejia/wheels/familia/harvey.  at least one will make the team next year.  the LAST of the 4 will make an impact in 2014.  dont forget mejia is at the point where he can be a sufficient starter barring health issues.

  25. tom you make it sound like 130 games of reyes isnt better than 150 from just about any other ss

  26. let reyes go, im convinced hes not a winner after what he pulled on the last game of the season. make jason bay the center fielder. Hes been the mets best defensive out fielder the last two years. move davis to right field. have murphy play 1st. trade pelfry. sign burele and dotel  

  27. the team will be alot better the bullpen was horrid and they need a reserve play who can hit timely. a marlon anderson in his prime type guy

  28. lovebaseball74 4 years ago

    there wrong i would of traded reyes before the deadline when was healtly there no need to sign him its gonna cost of 100million either way u look at it.. and even he resigns the mets still a 500 team and thats a big if … play tejada at short… hereswhat i think trade wright and pelfrey should be able to get someone good in return..trade santana at the deadline…look into signing players like sizemore and mccloth and some starters like buehrle kazmir webb and look closers like nathan and papelbon there not asking for to much…trying bring back capuano also not the greatest idea but he had a good year

  29. They have an injection of youth about to happen in a year or two with their top pitching prospects, but they dont have much in terms of hitting. Nimmos too far away to project. I like Duda a lot, and Murphy could be a solid complimentary player on a good team. I’d trade Wright for the right (hahah) package, and I’d let Reyes go, they need payroll flexibility when they are contending in a few years and the last thing they need is an aging injury prone SS making 20 million over 6. They have to rebuild. Their pitching looks promising, yet they have work to do in the hitting department.

  30. They have an injection of youth about to happen in a year or two with their top pitching prospects, but they dont have much in terms of hitting. Nimmos too far away to project. I like Duda a lot, and Murphy could be a solid complimentary player on a good team. I’d trade Wright for the right (hahah) package, and I’d let Reyes go, they need payroll flexibility when they are contending in a few years and the last thing they need is an aging injury prone SS making 20 million over 6. They have to rebuild. Their pitching looks promising, yet they have work to do in the hitting department.

  31. gverdejo 4 years ago

    Money is an ¬†issue and¬†the Mets are not going to do any better even if they sign Jos√© Reyes. My personal opinion is to let Reyes¬†or David Wright go and use the money to get a couples of good closers (relief Pitchers).¬†¬†Pelfrey, Parnell, Carrasco, Igarashi must be traded or let go too.¬† The Mets lost must of their games because we didn’t have good pitching or relieve pitching.¬† The Mets had to score more than six runs to win¬†most of their games.¬† The Mets were among the tops scoring team last year but our pitching staff failed to do their jobs.¬† The Mets offensive players got tired of scoring so many runs and loosing games they should have won.¬†¬† The Mets offensive wasn’t the problem.¬† It was the pitching staff and the pitching coach that lost most of the games. I would rather keep Reyes than David Wright is there is an option. Everything looks that Reyes wants $100million and Reyes alone can’t win games. A¬†couple of good¬†closer can be the Mets best option¬†instead of keeping Reyes.

  32. bhrnjez 4 years ago

    Mets linuep in ’12:

    Reyes SS
    Murphy 2B
    Wright 3B
    Prince 1B
    Bay LF
    Duda RF
    Pagan CF
    Thole

    Santana
    Felix
    Dickey
    Pelfrey
    Niese

    Sign reyes, trade Ike and Mejia for King Felix, and sign prince. 

  33. sheaitaintso 4 years ago

    Anyone thinking Reyes is coming back is out of their minds…¬† Also anyone thinking the Mets can’t get top value for Wright now is also out of their minds – there are so many teams that need 3B help they could easily pull in a top package…

    2012 NY Mets

    C Thole/Paulino
    1B Davis
    2B Turner/Tejada
    SS Lowrie
    3B Murphy
    LF Bay
    CF A. Jackson
    RF Duda
    IF Tejada/Turner
    IF Branyan
    OF Chavez
    UT Punto

    Jackson
    Turner/Tejeda
    Murphy
    Davis
    Duda
    Bay
    Lowrie
    Thole/Paulino

    SP Santana
    SP Dickey
    SP Niese
    SP Gee
    SP Harang
    CL Rauch
    SU Isringhausen
    RP Parnell
    RP – L – Byrdak
    RP – MacDougal
    LR – Mitre

    Trade Pagan/Pelfrey
    Wright/Pagan to Detroit for Turner/Jackson/Suarez
    Pelfrey to Boston for Lowrie

    Sign Free Agents
    SP Harang
    SP Penny (Minor league deal) – compete with Harang for 5th starter
    CL Rauch
    RP Isringhausen
    LR – Mitre
    RP – MacDougal
    UT- Punto

    In-Season Trades –
    Attempt to trade (basically anyone) РSP J. Santana/LF. J. Bay/SP. Dickey/SP. A. Harang

    Rotation sets up nicely in a couple of years – Turner/Wheeler/Niese/Gee – add good starter in 2012 (Marcum/Cain)

  34. metsadhd 4 years ago

    I don’t know about the rest of youse but this line-up gets my heart racing.
    Where do I sign up for season tickets.
    Meaningful games in February, for sure.

  35. Christopher Soto 4 years ago

    Your actually really close to an ideal winter….One too many relievers though. Interesting thing you bring up though with Rule 5…..Anyone know of potential Rule 5 Starters or CF’s that could be of interest?

  36. MetsMagic 4 years ago

    Mejia should not be delegated to long relief, he has far too much upside for that. He should be given the chance at starting when he’s healed and developed. Beato, Carrasco, and Stinson shouldn’t be anywhere near a major league bullpen at this point, and who knows if Buchholz will have recovered by next year if at all.¬†

  37. guydavis 4 years ago

    No this doesn’t cut it I’m afraid, especially when you take injuries into consideration (ie at least 2 people here are going to get injured). This is too much of the same from last year except banking way too much on Johan Santana. They need more of a change than this if they’re going to compete in the NL East.

  38. metsadhd 4 years ago

    Snark, my friend, snark.
    Another year of the same misery, only we are all a year older.
     

  39. robert ffff 4 years ago

    Actually, no. He can, and if the changes at Citi field will benefit Wright at all, will do worse than Wright would do. Trading someone who not too long ago was your best player (8.9 WAR (!!!) in ’07) is not worth a couple of prospects, and all it will do for the team until they will be serious competitors come ’13 will kill attendance.¬†

  40. didn’t mean to like that. a) daniel murphy would not offer nearly the same production as wright. b) seriously doubt teams would be willing to overpay for wright right now

  41. guydavis 4 years ago

    Not sure how I didn’t get this. Guess there are fans out there (above + below) who actually believe that this could cut it

  42. Loody 4 years ago

    I would love to dignify a response to your post but I just can’t because your post is grammatically the worst written post I have seen in my entire life. I literally have no idea what you were trying to say. They invented commas and periods for a reason.¬†

  43. Christopher Soto 4 years ago

    You seem to forget that Alderson’s high range is $110M. The team you have presented (with correct salary figures) is already over that mark without even including the bullpen or the bench.

  44. Christopher Soto 4 years ago

    That and CJ Wilson has been reported as looking for a 100M dollar deal…..sorry but pass.

  45. MetsMagic 4 years ago

    Molina? I’d rather them sign Rocker. Either way, there is no need to sign premium FA starters considering the slew of of young arms in the farm system, not on this budget.¬†

    I’d also rather Gee not be in the starting rotation right away, I’d let him compete with Schwinden or maybe Cohoon for the job in the spring or maybe sign a Kevin Slowey or Jeff Francis type pitcher.¬†

  46. HobokenMetsFan 4 years ago

    I think I may be dumber now for reading this……

  47. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    … no.

  48. lovebaseball74 4 years ago

    really so let me guess i bet you want to give reyes 7 years 150million sorry hes not worth it..so there smart guy gm what do you think the mets should do…like me guess sign fielder or pujlos right…that would a great move if he had a pitching staff…sorry we have the worst staff in the national east…

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