Angels Notes: Wilson, Pujols, Fielder, Dipoto

In yesterday's collection of Angels notes, we heard that the team has touched base with C.J. Wilson. GM Jerry Dipoto said his club is "intrigued" by the possibility of signing the left-hander away from the rival Rangers, according to Mark Saxon of ESPN Los Angeles. Let's round up a few more Angels-related links….

  • Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio tweets that Wilson, who is from Southern California and is living there this winter, has "serious interest" in the Angels.
  • Within his ESPN.com blog (Insider only), Buster Olney says baseball people that have talked to the Angels don't think the club will be among the bidders for Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder. Dipoto said earlier this week that, while an impact first baseman isn't the team's most pressing need, the Angels "don't want to lock the door" on the possibility of signing Pujols or Fielder.
  • The baseball people who spoke to Olney also feel like Dipoto is "in full control of the decisions" for the Angels, with Mike Scioscia entirely focused on managing.


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126 Comments on "Angels Notes: Wilson, Pujols, Fielder, Dipoto"


slider32
3 years 9 months ago

The Angels might have the best rotation in baseball if they land Wilson.

Devon Henry
3 years 9 months ago

The Angels WILL have the best rotation in baseball if they land Wilson.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

And the Amazing part of Angels Top 3 if Cj signs is that there all CALI NATIVES! and what IF richards pitches awesome then 4 out of 5 guys will be Cali natives likewise goes to chatty

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

Not really,

Phillies still have 2 pitchers better than any of the angels staff members.

 

3 years 9 months ago

i would argue that weaver is better than lee

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

Weaver had his best year in 2011 and Lee’s numbers across the board are still better.

So how do you expect to win that argument?

Andy_B
3 years 9 months ago

Weaver had a great year, but he’s not at cliff lee’s status yet.

3 years 9 months ago

Maybe not yet, but if Weaver can keep up the pace, he will be soon. 

Ta-Kuan Fuan
3 years 9 months ago

Cliff Lee’s track record isn’t all the long when you really look at it. He had an outstanding 2008 (after a decent 2006 and a terrible 2007), followed by a good 2009, pitched great first half of 2010 (followed by decent second half) and then a great 2011.

Weaver has a longer track record and has ranged from decent to great every single year from 2006 to 2011.

3 years 9 months ago

Lee is overrated.

3 years 9 months ago

i would argue that weaver is better than lee

3 years 9 months ago

Halladay is the only pitcher in that rotation that tops Weaver or Haren. Lee is overrated.

3 years 9 months ago

wha?? lee is easily better than weaver or haren. what kind of argument says otherwise?? he posts better numbers year in and year out and pitches in a bandbox as opposed to pitcher friendly Angel Stadium. 

Ta-Kuan Fuan
3 years 9 months ago

Cliff Lee

2006: 14-11, 4.40 era / 1.41 whip / 200 ip / 129 K, 58 BB
2007: 5-8, 6.29 era / 1.52 whip / 97 ip / 66 K, 36 BB (got sent down to minors)
2008: 22-3, 2.54 era / 1.11 whip / 223 ip / 170 K, 34 BB
2009: 14-13, 3.22 era / 1.24 whip / 231 ip / 181 K, 43 BB
2010: 12-9, 3.18 era / 1.00 whip / 212 ip / 185 K, 18 BB
2011: 17-8, 2.40 era / 1.03 whip / 232 ip / 238 K, 42 BB

He’s only been “great” 2 yrs and good for another 2 yrs. That’s hardly an argument to say that he’s “easily better” than Weaver or Haren. With the way the media portrays him, you’d think he’s a 3-time Cy Young winner with 200+ K’s every year (when he did it for only the FIRST time in his career this past year).

Cliff Lee’s ERA+ for the past 2 yrs – 146
Jered Weaver’s ERA+ for past 2 yrs – 144

That’s as even as it gets since ERA+ adjusts for ballpark.

Madman2TX
3 years 9 months ago

Lol if he’s on, then Wilson will help a rotation though he is a converted reliever, not an ace. If Wilson gets into his own head, the Angels or whichever team is going to regret signing him. Therefore, I hope either the Angels or Yankees blow their wad on Wilson so the Rangers can spend their money on other, more reliable players.

3 years 9 months ago

That better include a pitcher of equal or better value. Otherwise the Rangers are in big trouble. The success of the Rangers hinges on their starting pitching. Offense, defense, and bullpen can be made by any team playing in a hitters ballpark.

SunsetStripper
3 years 9 months ago

With Morales at 1B and Vernon Wells taking up all that payroll space, I don’t think the Angels will be players for Pujols or Prince. 

3 years 9 months ago

Morales hasn’t played in 2 years, is still a concern physically, and will be a free agent in 2 years.

He’s also represented by Boras. If he doesn’t perform like he did in 2009, it doesn’t make sense to lock him up. If he does, the price tag will be too much.

Vernon Wells’ contract is an eye sore, but it’s not prohibiting the Angels from pursuing a big name. Hunter (18 million) and Abreu (9 million) will be off the books after this season. If they allotted the entire 15 million that’s allegedly available to Fielder, they’d be about 8 million over for this year only (Assuming he signs for an AAV of 23 million). In 2013, that 8 million would simply be taken from the 27 million coming off the books. 

Also, this hardly even needs to be mentioned, but players like Fielder/Pujols pay for themselves to a certain extent.

E Scalez
3 years 9 months ago

Agreed.  If the Halos get their TV Deal settled, the possibility that they sign a big timer would also likely increase. 

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Dude i heard about that Fox deal Along time ago to since the start of the Oct..IS it gona happen? iv been waiting for some news on this and nothing i was so excited about this deal.. and Arte did say he will excel his 140M payroll for a certain player or players..so if he feels that guy is a piece of the puzzle he will pay

E Scalez
3 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it get settled up in the winter near the close of 4Q, a big signing could possibly predicate a better deal or come afterwards with the security of a deal in place.  

SunsetStripper
3 years 9 months ago

You’re probably right.  I kind of forgot about Torii Hunter and Bobby Abreu coming off the books next year.  The only problem I see is that Prince is also represented by Boras, and the Angels have been reluctant to deal with him lately.

3 years 9 months ago

Very true. Hopefully Dipoto can bridge the gap that’s developed between Moreno/Boras.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Hopefully the Weaver situation helped things a little, but yeah.  I feel like that was more of Weaver forcing his hand than anything else.

I really hope we can find a way to make a run on Fielder.  He’s 27, at the top of his game, will draw a huge fanbase and has never missed more than five games in a season.  Guys this talented and this young come along extremely rarely in free agency.  Even if his weight starts to catch up with him around 32 or 33, that’s still 5-6 years of elite production on probably a 7-8 year deal. 

Get it done, Dipoto!

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

I really don’t think Morales’ price will get too ridiculous even if he does have a good season in 2012.  Especially after Pujols and Fielder get locked up this offseason, how many teams will really need a first baseman?  Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, etc. are already taken care of, and that’s before this offseason even begins.  There’s only so many “mystery teams” that Boras can create for such a saturated position, especially for a guy who has been an injury concern going on two years now.

I feel like if he has a bounce back year that’s anything close to his 2009 season, the Angels will be able to extend him fairly easily if they have interest in doing so because Morales is going to want security and the market will be flat.

3 years 9 months ago

Agreed. I suppose I was working under the presumption of “worst case scenario”.

I would love for Kendry to bounce back and sign a somewhat team-friendly extension, but it would still be risky. 

His ankle is a serious concern moving forward. And he’s listed as 28 years old, but going by the Cuban rule of thumb, he’s most likely 30 or 31.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Hmm i prefer a big Bat but okay.. Sign Cj, and our offense still sucks i see no improvement on the team if our hitters can’t hit a freakn ball in important situations… Rangers have made it clear there not interested in Cj unless he lowers his money…Sign Cj,Cespeds…If they land this Cuban slugger and Cj ill be a happy camper..

3 years 9 months ago

What are the Angels supposed to do with Cespedes? They already have a logjam in the outfield with Trout and Bourjos ready to be mainstays for years to come and you want to add another outfielder?

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Heck ya there’s no such thing as enough talent.. Just imagine Cespeds LF Pete CF and Trout RF… That’s gota be the best OF In history if everyone of them does what there said to do.. I would love it then this year Cespedes LF Wells Dh and Abreu PH idc if Abreu and wells don’t like the idea they sucked and dont deserve a start in the OF or for Abreu even to start at all

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Yes, Wells is really going to DH and ride the pine for three years after one bad season here.  And while making $21M a season.  And with your proposed lineup, where does Hunter fit in… does he just retire and go on vacation?  What if Morales comes back healthy, you want 4 DH’s in our lineup (Wells, Abreu, Morales, Hunter)?

There is a such thing as wasting money on too much talent for positions that are already accounted for and oversaturated.  Your scenario makes zero sense unless we move two or three of these guys, which will never happen.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Hunter will play Rf…Morales is going to Dh till healthy after that he is back to 1b..Abreu Ph like i said and wells Dh..So we wuld be having 2 Dh(Wells,Morales) and pete,trout,cespedes was for the future not for the 2012 season more like the 2013 and so on season’s..(trout ain’t ready for this year and if they get cespedes, i wuld lyk too see cespedes in the minors to)

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

And what about Trumbo?  You keep leaving out players.  And you really think Scioscia is going to keep Abreu on the bench to be only a PH?  This isn’t the NL, Abreu is going to play at least 3-4 times a week just like he did last year.  Scioscia wouldn’t “disrespect” his veteran like that.

I also highly doubt Morales will play much 1B next year, if at all.  They are going to be very cautious with him (as they should be).  I see him at DH for at least half the season if he comes back. 

Are you even aware of the interest Cespedes is attracting? He’s been estimated to get a deal north of $30M. There’s no way he starts in the minors.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Trumbo has been rumored to play 3B after Morales becomes healthy..And ya i thought about the respect part to Abreu to.. But he is old and sucks now he isn’t going to help this team win a championship.. But thats exaclty why i said Cespedes and Trout will be in the minors getting there final touches ready and 2013 is wide open for them..Having hunter retiring and Abreu’s contract ending..So what im saying is for the 2013 season i see this…Cespeds-LF, Peter-CF, Trout-RF, Wells-Dh, Morales 1b, Trumbo 3B..Signings arent always for this season there for the future and in the long run i think signing cespedes will help this team alot.. 

3 years 9 months ago

Trumbo cannot and will not play 3B next season. Defense matters and you can’t just stick guys wherever you want to try to build a lineup. I expect Trumbo to be trade bait if Morales comes back healthy. I’m sure DiPoto will try to find a GM in the same mold of Tony Reagins that doesn’t value OBP and flip Trumbo for a couple live arms to stick in the bullpen. DiPoto has already talked about adding OBP to the infield and that certainly wouldn’t mean replacing the Angels leader in OBP (Callaspo) with someone with a sub .290 OBP in Trumbo. 

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

D is a matter exactly what i wanted you to say and yet people say that Angels should sign A-ram..

3 years 9 months ago

Nobody with decent baseball knowledge wants the Halos to sign A-Ram. Aramis is legitimately the worst defensive 3B in baseball and there’s no reason to pay way more money for a less valuable player at 3B. 

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

D is a matter exactly what i wanted you to say and yet people say that Angels should sign A-ram..

Ta-Kuan Fuan
3 years 9 months ago

Things always work themselves out. Either an injury happens to a player, a player struggles or a trade is made to plug in a hole.

3 years 9 months ago

Not sold on Cespedes to spend the money, and Trout’s arm isn’t RF caliber.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

C.J. Wilson is the most over rated pitcher… He did nothing in the playoffs and I believe his last 17 starts were against Oakland and other below .500 teams

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Ovverated for sure but he is good and he wuld help out Angels Rotation 

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

No, he is not.. did you watch the playoffs?

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Yes i did i also saw him in the regular season..Not everyone translates there season numbers to the post..its called pressure and players choking due to it

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Ya but take a look at the teams Wilson pitched against during the regular season..

vtadave
3 years 9 months ago

I could probably come up with more than a handful of guys who had a very good season and a subpar playoffs. Wilson was sixth in the AL in K’s and seventh in ERA. He was also fourth in WAR, so to me, that makes him someone who can help a rotation, which is all we’re saying here.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Well ya hes not an absolute failure I just think he is going to be wayyyy overpaid and be the next Barry Zito… Which is all im saying here 

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

thats just your opinion. you have no stats to back it up. 

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

C.J. is good, but only for the right price.  Especially with our offensive woes, if we need to blow our entire load on Wilson then I think we’re still barely treading water and watching Texas ease into the playoffs once again.

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

so 3 starts = accurate size sample?

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

I said 17 starts where did you get 3?

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

The_BiRDS 35 minutes ago in reply to Christian
No, he is not.. did you watch the playoffs?

 

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Lunchbox45.. This is the original comment:

“C.J. Wilson is the most over rated pitcher… He did nothing in the playoffs and I believe his last 17 starts were against Oakland and other below .500 teams”

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

Okay but the playoffs is what it is, its a short stretch it cant determine a players full value.. Do we all think Cody Ross and David Freese are going to lead next years MVP hopefuls?

And if he goes to LAA, he’ll still face the A’s and Seattle and a bunch of other sub .500 teams, so that argument holds absolutely no validity.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Hey bro, don’t forget when Mathis hit .400 during that playoff stretch three years ago.  It has secured his job for life.

stl_cards16
3 years 9 months ago

While I 100% agree with you, David Freese is the real deal.  As long as those ankles stay healthy next year(which they did this year) and no more bad luck,  he is going to put up really impressive numbers.  I’m not saying he will be an MVP type player but he won’t be in Cody Ross league for sure.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Lunchbox45.. This is the original comment:

“C.J. Wilson is the most over rated pitcher… He did nothing in the playoffs and I believe his last 17 starts were against Oakland and other below .500 teams”

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

The_BiRDS 35 minutes ago in reply to Christian
No, he is not.. did you watch the playoffs?

 

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

Short sample, even Willie Mays and A-Rod bad series, it is random.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

WTF I said 17 regular season starts.. do people in Anaheim hear what they want?

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

ya i saw and ill name all the teams by order..Vs astros, Vs yanks, Vs twins, vs cle, Vs, TB, Vs chisox, vs phils, vs angels, oak, sea, kc, det, bosox.. At of all the 17 games he had 4/17 were he allowed 4 or more runs rest were 3-… and from those 17 games there were 4 playoff teams, Yanks, TB,Phils,Det.. He lost to all of them but he allowed 3- runs against everyone of them besides det.. Detroit he allowed 4 runs

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

but as long as he stays out of the AL east, he will continue to play weaker teams, so I’m not sure why his opposition is a concern. 

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

Dont forget the Cardinals

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

ya i saw and ill name all the teams by order..Vs astros, Vs yanks, Vs twins, vs cle, Vs, TB, Vs chisox, vs phils, vs angels, oak, sea, kc, det, bosox.. At of all the 17 games he had 4/17 were he allowed 4 or more runs rest were 3-… and from those 17 games there were 4 playoff teams, Yanks, TB,Phils,Det.. He lost to all of them but he allowed 3- runs against everyone of them besides det.. Detroit he allowed 4 runs

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

Short sample, even Willie Mays and A-Rod bad series, it is random.

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

Fangraphs has Wilson with a WAR of 5.9 this year with Weaver at 5.6.

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

Fangraphs has Wilson with a WAR of 5.9 this year with Weaver at 5.6.

3 years 9 months ago

Mike Scioscia has super managing powers

3 years 9 months ago

If by powers you mean complain about having to go to Toronto to play the Jays at the end of the season…then yes, absolutely.

3 years 9 months ago

I’m fine with signing CJ. It either gives huge depth or opens up someone to be traded depending how the #5 works out. It also helps give some stability for 2013 and beyond. Having Weaver and CJ locked up for the next 4 years + would be a nice luxury.

Angels need offense but what’s out there that will work? Per all the others above, there is already a logjam in the spots where teh good FAs are available (OF, DH, 1B). There aren’t any decent options at 3B (no to Ramirez) and C where we have open holes.

I’m praying that Trumbo can play reasonably decent 3B and Morales can get back to his former self, that would solve a lot of problems.

3 years 9 months ago

Angels fans are fine with anything. They just bend over and let Arte stick a taco in their butts.. he Angels are the 99cent store of baseball. Arte Moreno is a joke

3 years 9 months ago

YOU HAVE NO OFFENSE AND YOU’RE GOING AFTER PITCHING? WTF!! TRaDITION!! ENJOY 3RD PLACE ANGELS FK

Brad426
3 years 9 months ago

I applaud you for not typing in ALL caps…

Brad426
3 years 9 months ago

I applaud you for not typing in ALL caps…

Madman2TX
3 years 9 months ago

Lol I’m guessing all those who think Wilson is the ace savior who is going to make their team have the best rotation in baseball didn’t watch his breakdowns like in the World Series and last year’s All Star game.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

LoL ace Savior??.. Have you seen Angels rotation i believe its full of Ace’s… Weaver,Haren,Santana.. they can all be an Ace if they split up

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

santana? settle down.

3 years 9 months ago

Santana is far from an ace…simmer down now.

sallen22
3 years 9 months ago

The future is bright for the Angels (Trout, Conger, Richards, Chatwood, Segura, Cron are all solid prospects), but that future won’t come until 2013. Angels need to save their money and spend what they can wisely. MLBTR’s Arb estimates and Arte’s ballpark payroll figure, indicate they have between 12-22 million to spend this winter and need a starter, reliever and a bat.  

DiPoto so far has said that he wants a late inning RHP first and foremost, and a ground ball throwing starter, as well as an infielder that has a good OBP and he prefers to upgrade via trade.  Landing Wilson effectively improves the Angels and weakens the Rangers, so of course DiPoto is interested.

Just deciphering what DiPoto has said, I think he deals:
– Izturis + prospects for Martin Prado. Angels would plug Prado in at 3B and use Callaspo in Izturis’ old role.  The money figures to be about even.  

– Next, I’d say he brings in Frank Francisco to help as 7th inning reliever behind Walden and Downs. Just guessing but 2 years 12 million would probably be enough, leaving DiPoto with somewhere between 6 and 16 million to spend on a starting pitcher.  

– That doesn’t strike me as enough to bring in CJ Wilson.  I’m guessing he brings in Hiroki Kuroda for 2 years 24 million.  Kuroda said he’d like to stay in LA and this gives him a legit shot at the playoffs.

Payroll would end up around 137 million.  The bullpen would be set.  The rotation would be the 2nd best in baseball behind the Phillies.  Prado would provide some needed pop and the Angels look like a 90 win team.  Who knows, if Morales comes back healthy (unlikely) and Wells bounces back (extremely unlikely) the Angels could be a 95+ win team.

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

I’m on board with doing nothing as well and just waiting for the young guys to develop and the payroll to take a big dip in 2013.  Even if we sign Fielder, our offense is still no competition for Texas.  If on the other hand we knew Morales would come back and mash then it’d be a litter more intriguing, but that’s a pipe dream at this point.  Especially with the Angels saying they aren’t going to start to work Morales hard until January… doesn’t sound like the greatest sign.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

My argument is he will be overpaid where ever he goes.. Thats all.

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

95% of all free agents are over paid because they are paid on past performance. The bigger the free agent the harder it is for them to meet expectations.

cookmeister
3 years 9 months ago

I’ve been saying this for a while and want some opinions.  If the Angels really did sign Wilson, do they keep all four starters or do they trade Santana for salary relief/prospects/3B?  It would basically be a CJ for Santana swap, but still giving the Angels flexibility in payroll this offseason and restock the farm somewhat.

Dick Armada
3 years 9 months ago

They aren’t touching their 1-2-3 starters. They had a void at 4-5 from day one last season.

optionn
3 years 9 months ago

I know Roy Oswalt has a back thing,  but doesn’t he have a better track record than a guy like Wilson?  Whoever gets Oswalt on a 2 or 3 year deal is way better off than Wilson for 5.

Orlandojjk
3 years 9 months ago

CJ Wilson is a perfect fit in LA. 3 Reasons. 1: He’s from SoCal 2. The Angels need a legit left handed starter. 3: This is a perfect chance to show Texas he’s done with them f***ing up in the WS.

grownice
3 years 9 months ago

 No, and shut up.

The_BiRDS
3 years 9 months ago

The (null) is a system error from the iphone app.. but I do agree, its very annoying

Jonathan Stone
3 years 9 months ago

Why not Buerhle? Has he already bought a home in Florida? For the money it’s going to take, I think I would rather him as the #3 than CJ

MaineSox
3 years 9 months ago

I think I’d still give the best rotation in baseball tag to the Phils, but yeah, that would definitely be a killer rotation for LAA.

3 years 9 months ago

Imagine if they had run support.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

True but i have a question how much money do each of these guys want..like an estimate and is it a big differnce from cj and mark money wise coz performance wise Cj is a heck a lot better…

Jonathan Stone
3 years 9 months ago

Wilson has a higher SO/9 but I’m not sure I would say marginally better with a much shorter track record. Wilson has started for 2 years, Buehrle for 11 full seasons. He’s started 30+ games and pitched 200+ innings in every season since 2001. He is the definition of reliable. His post season numbers are similar to his regular season stats. I’m not saying I wouldn’t want CJ, but he’s the flavor of the month right now and is going to demand Weaver like compensation, if you can sign Buehrle for less, but get similar performance, then hooray for our side.

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

CJ was rated in the top 10 in WAR on Fangraphs, sometimes I think he is being underrated.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Ya i was just looking into Mark’s postseason and you are right Mark will be more reliable and he adds experience to the rotation to..Both of them wuld be a great add..all i ask is that they get the right guy and they don’t overpay either of em

slider32
3 years 9 months ago

The shorter track record could mean he has many more pitches left in his arm, you could look at it either way the glass is half empty or half full. Pitching is the most unpredictable thing in baseball!

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

I agree, both Doc and Lee are in a class with very few other pitchers.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Do Angels want a power bat for the near future? If so this young Cuban slugger is the answer.. We have seen what Morales can do.. and to Christopher that’s why he will be in the minors to get his form and become what he is expected to become

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

I agree with signing fielder but all Dipoto has talked about lately is Cj.. You can’t get Cj and Fielder.. So im saying if they get Cj then they should get cespedes.. But i agree ill take Fielder anyday over these 2 guys.. and next year it wont be such a big cluster problem with Hunter retiring and Abreu leaving.

3 years 9 months ago

no sense at all!! THE ANGELS DO THIS EVERY FREAKING YEAR!! I HOPE TEXAS SIGNS FIELDER! just to rub-it in Arte’s face!

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Either way tho the same problem presents itself if they sign Prince.. What wuld be done about Abreu if they sign prince? Trumbo will still end up playing 3rd also if they sign prince..

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Ah, can always count on a Chowd to make the obvious, non-clever joke. 

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Yeah, I’m sure his top destination is the M’s.  A cavern with zero competitive relevance in anyone’s recent memory. 

And everyone drives up the price on elite free agents, what else is new.  Welcome to free agency in baseball. 

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Ya cron is 1B .. And Trout will be a great hitter along with Bourjous.. and I agree iv said it over and over.. Id prefer Prince over Cespedes.. But all Jerry has talked about is Cj.. You CAN’T get Cj and Prince..But you CAN get Cj and Cespedes

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

 Probably a #2 to split up the top 2 righties, but a #3 for sure..

I don’t get why texas fans keep bringing up the playoffs as a reason why he all of a sudden sucks, are they turning on Feliz who blew a critical save as well?

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Again I AGREE WITH YOU… BUT it seems to me Jerry isn’t thinking that way he wants Cj and idk what he will do with the rest of the cash and Chap signed 6 yrs for 30.25.. If angels can get that or something close to that for Cespedes id take it..

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

ya i believe Cj comes in 4th starter.. and Catcher WE HAVE CONGER.. and whats out there for catchers? pretty much nothing.. i believe Angels have relivers on there farm system that can give Halos some depth names such as David Carpenter and Loek Van Mil…Angels are pretty good right now with Cassevah,Downs,Walden,Thompson… But if they don’t approach Cespedes.. i wuld also agree on signing a reliever to give even more depth and relive pressure from Walden… So its either cespedes and Cj …just Fielder…or Cj and Pen.. thats what ill say.. But getting pitching doesn’t help the offense so whats the point???

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

ya i believe Cj comes in 4th starter.. and Catcher WE HAVE CONGER.. and whats out there for catchers? pretty much nothing.. i believe Angels have relivers on there farm system that can give Halos some depth names such as David Carpenter and Loek Van Mil…Angels are pretty good right now with Cassevah,Downs,Walden,Thompson… But if they don’t approach Cespedes.. i wuld also agree on signing a reliever to give even more depth and relive pressure from Walden… So its either cespedes and Cj …just Fielder…or Cj and Pen.. thats what ill say.. But getting pitching doesn’t help the offense so whats the point???

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

Haren’s definitely the better pitcher, but i’d put him there to break up weaver and haren

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

 way to sink down to his level

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

He is 30 yrs old ya no as long as Conger gets the call Conger will be the everyday catcher and Wilson back up they don’t need to waste money on that guy.. he got 5.2M for the previous season.. no thanks

sallen22
3 years 9 months ago

Ian Stewart doesn’t upgrade in the OBP department.  Huston Street is a bit expensive compared to his actual effectiveness.  It’s a deep market for relievers.

Coming off a down year, highly doubtful Braves would get more for Prado.  Izturis plays 120 games for them and helps at 3B, SS and 2B, exactly where Braves need help.  If the two prospects the Angels add in have some upside, like Jeremy Moore and Steven Geltz then the Braves would almost certainly accept it.  It makes them as good in the present and better in the future and help the Angels for the next two years.  Everybody wins and DiPoto has a history of making those sort of trades.

Frank Francisco was untouchable in the 2nd half last season and his numbers had only been average because he’s spent his entire career in homer friendly parks like Texas and Toronto.  Moving him to So-Cal would help and he has experience in this division. He would make for an excellent signing.  

I’d rather get a lefty too, and I know DiPoto likes them (traded Haren for 3 LHP a year and a half ago), but Capuano hasn’t stayed healthy and was lit up outside of pitcher friendly Citi Field.  

Wells bouncing back would be a miracle.  I think he’ll improve, but I don’t think he’ll ever be the .270 40+ DB 30+ HR hitter he was in Toronto.  

Devon Henry
3 years 9 months ago

Yep

Lunchbox45
3 years 9 months ago

good pitcher, but he’s no ace. Solid #3 pitcher

3 years 9 months ago

Galarraga nearly did too lol.

MetsMagic
3 years 9 months ago

He gave up a run in his no-no. He’s lucky the Angels offense woke up that day. Either way, he’s a very good, solid pitcher. Not an ace, but doesn’t have to be in the Angels rotation. CJ Wilson would make that rotation Philliesque. 

Nick Sossamon
3 years 9 months ago

Exactly… he’d basically be a #4 in our rotation which takes a lot of the pressure off.  He wouldn’t be facing other team’s aces on a consistent basis.

OntariGro
3 years 9 months ago

Wilson was converted to a starter 2 seasons ago, of course he won’t be anywhere near the top of that list.

Ta-Kuan Fuan
3 years 9 months ago

Like who? Phillies will lose Oswalt, Giants traded away Sanchez and the Braves may lose Jurrjens (after trading away Lowe).

But I’d say we have the 2nd best rotation in baseball, the only team better imo is the Tampa Bay Rays. If David Price might end up as your 4TH best starter, you’re loaded.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Fo dat.. I hope he signs with someone else so Angels don’t even touch him

3 years 9 months ago

It was funny. Admit it.

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

3rd if Astros join the league to make it a 5 team league 

cookmeister
3 years 9 months ago

So the Astros are a 2nd place in team in the new AL West?

cookmeister
3 years 9 months ago

the offense woke up that day? They scored 3 runs.

cookmeister
3 years 9 months ago

now that i think about it, i guess that was better than the Weaver-Arredondo no hitter against the Doyers but still losing

Salmon4Coach
3 years 9 months ago

Yup if the they jn the AL west.. Astros will be 2nd prolly even take the crown

3 years 9 months ago

homerism you say? im from P.A. where cliff lee pitches so how are you gonna say that im acting on homerism when I’m not an angels fan