Kelly Johnson Accepts Arbitration

11:08pm: Johnson has accepted arbitration, tweets Jon Heyman of MLB Network.

3:28pm: It sounds very likely Johnson will accept arbitration, tweets MLB.com's Gregor Chisholm.

2:31pm: There's a "good chance" Kelly Johnson returns, Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos told Shi Davidi of Sportsnet.ca.  The second baseman could accept Toronto's arbitration offer, or perhaps sign a multiyear deal.


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100 Comments on "Kelly Johnson Accepts Arbitration"


3 years 8 months ago

First!  not sure how i feel about this.. any thoughts?

BrandonDbacks
3 years 8 months ago

FAIL!! 7th**

Cavman_Boland
3 years 8 months ago

The picks would have been good but I think AA realized they already have enough picks in next years draft considering the spending limits will change their strategy. More picks is not necessarily a good thing if you can’t afford to sign them all.

Kelly Johnson is a solid 2B with 800+ OPS potential in the next few seasons. He’s a LH bat and is more appealing to me than some of the other trade options (which will cost prospects so essentially the same as picks) like Prado, O-Dog, Callaspo etc.

3 years 8 months ago

The more picks you have, the more money you have to sign them.

Cavman_Boland
3 years 8 months ago

Are you sure? My understanding was that there was an equal cap that all teams could spend.

aaforprimeminister
3 years 8 months ago

I’m fairly certain Joshua is correct, otherwise there would be no point of having slot values

3 years 8 months ago

No, Joshua is write. 

3 years 8 months ago

since when is Kelly a SS?

Cavman_Boland
3 years 8 months ago

you know what I meant. I fixed it so you could fall asleep later tonight.

shockey12
3 years 8 months ago

1. You get more money if you have more draft picks

2. Kelly Johnson plays 2B not SS

Cavman_Boland
3 years 8 months ago

As already mentioned, I fixed the typo… get over it.

3 years 8 months ago

Be careful not to feed the trolls.

popular_mechanics_for_pitchers
3 years 8 months ago

I’m not sure how you feel about this as well.

popular_mechanics_for_pitchers
3 years 8 months ago

I’m not sure how you feel about this as well.

renegadeisback
3 years 8 months ago

As a

renegadeisback
3 years 8 months ago

As a Jays fan, I don’t mind at all.

3 years 8 months ago

Strange that AA would speak publicly about a FA.

3 years 8 months ago

Generally speaking, when AA comments on something like that it means it’s basically a done deal

atomicme123
3 years 8 months ago

there goes the 2 picks and it probably means SS prospect Hec will be traded if KJ signs long term

Cavman_Boland
3 years 8 months ago

I doubt that. THey would just trade Kelly Johnson later if Hech ever is able to handle the majors and that’s a big IF. The guy has sucked at the plate across all levels except for short spurts.

3 years 8 months ago

Not even close.

$14878247
3 years 8 months ago

Hech sucks anyway (his offence is absolutely horrible), it’s not even a big deal if he gets traded, which he won’t.

BenchedMark
3 years 8 months ago

I can’t remember where or when, but AA once said that Hechs promotion to the show will likely come as a utility role first.  If he figures out how to hit, he’s a starter if not, he’s an above average utility.

atomicme123
3 years 8 months ago

Certainly hopes that AA signs KJ to a one yr deal and tag a team option on top of it, then if he plays well in mid season we can get another controllable player with high potential back. AA is all about controllable player with upside KJ is not, unless he is willing to sign a Eskobar like deal which is highly unlikely.

AA cannot be happy that KJ accepts arb, no GM will. That is why arb to FA is expected to be declined. This is the last chance that the Jays can gain the system to get more picks.

mike292929
3 years 8 months ago

Sorta mixed about this… I would love the draft picks, however if you want to contend, you can’t have an insurance option in Valbuena starting as your 2B. 

grant77
3 years 8 months ago

Below average player + high salary + no picks = bad for Jays

3 years 8 months ago

Correction – Above average player + cheap salary 1 year deal + who cares about picks under CBA system = good for jays

3 years 8 months ago

Correction – Above average fielder + awful hitter + costly 1-yr deal that doesn’t hurt the Jays long term + would be nice to get the picks, but would rather have a 2B locked up for next year = alright for Jays

kurtits
3 years 8 months ago

From what I’ve seen I’d put his bat ahead of his D

3 years 8 months ago

He’s not an awful hitter lol… He’s a year removed from a 284/370/496 triple slash line and his latest salary is 5.85mil. What’s he going to get in arb, 6-7 mil? The mets paid Franky 2/12 mil to be their closer and Rauch 3.5 mil to throw gopher balls, As a comparison… Mark Ellis was paid 6 mil for a 248/288/346 line. Also, Valbuenna is our backup 2b.. do we really want him starting?

grant77
3 years 8 months ago

D is horrible, bat is mediocre, he’ll get like 8 million, and picks are still very valuable for Toronto. Those are the facts, deal with it.

Bombastic_Dave
3 years 8 months ago

So sayeth the Lord, the Lord hath spoken!

3 years 8 months ago

Below average poster = bad for MLBTR

grant77
3 years 8 months ago

Yes, you are bad for MLBTR. Try confronting the facts rather than hiding behind a poor attempt at wit.

3 years 8 months ago

Are you sure AA said that? he never says anything about a free agent and a trade..This is probably just a rumour and it came out of Bob Elliots azz

BrandonDbacks
3 years 8 months ago

I miss KJ, but I love Hill and McDonald so far!

3 years 8 months ago

Hill and McDonald was a great trade for you guys… Johnny Mac is the Man

3 years 8 months ago

I think it’s a very good thing for the Jays. 2B Free Agent Market this year was pretty weak this year, not to say inexistant and now we avoid trading prospects to another team. It was a position that couldn’t be filled internally and I think Johnson is allright in this line-up for the moment. Now it’s time to make a push for a top-of-the-rotation pitcher.

3 years 8 months ago

or prince fielder!

3 years 8 months ago

As much as I would love to see Fielder with the blue uniform, I really can’t see it happening. AA made it clear he didn’t want to commit in a 5+ years contract, which is seek by Boras. However, with the relatively low payroll we have and the upgrade Fielder would give to our line-up, I would take the risk. But that’s just my humble opinion.

ukJaysfan
3 years 8 months ago

There’s still hope!  The Cubs wear blue!

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t think a Fielder deal would be good unless it were just for 5 years. Go over six, and you sacrifice the future for the next few seasons.

Now, if the Jays were able to field a rotation of Romero, Morrow, and a Gio Gonzalez and/or Ervin Santana, then I’d say greenlight a 6+ year deal, because that would be a championship caliber team.

3 years 8 months ago

If this happens, the FA 2B market is essentially finished. Not really a starter left amongst the entire available group.

Prado interest bound to intensify…

-C

BluMule
3 years 8 months ago

I do not mind this at all. Now for the starter and we’ve got a couple of our problems settled.

3 years 8 months ago

At least the Tigers didn’t try to overpay for him

3 years 8 months ago

I like KJ. Liked the trade at the end of last season, too. Good for both teams. With the Yankees grabbing Nakajima, KJ was the best readily available option.

JaysNesan
3 years 8 months ago

If we lose Kelly, we have to find a 2B through a trade. No better 2B available in the FA. For good 2B, Jays have to give atleast two good prospects which are equivalent to two prospects that Jays get in the 1st round if Kelly leaves. We won’t know whether those two new prospects will be better than those who we give up in trade. The best case scenario is to keep Kelly and sign a multi year contract since we don’t have good 2B in our system.

LA
3 years 8 months ago

Kelly Johnson agent really that dumb? Decline.. and he’ll make more guaranteed money!!

3 years 8 months ago

No he wont. Accept Arb and have a good season and he will make HUGE money

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

He could probably get two-three years, at maybe 8-12 million total in this market. Accepting arbitration, he’ll definitely make 6-8 million for only one year, put himself in a great lineup with a chance to produce and cash in big time next year. And even if he has a season like last year, he’ll still probably be able to make more money later.

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

I like this move. He was on a pretty decent hitting team in Arizona and was capable of producing. Don’t love the defense, don’t love the strikeout numbers, but put him in a lineup with Bautista, Escobar, Lind, Lawrie, Rasmus…I think he’ll produce, maybe get that average back up around .270-.280 and hit 20-25 home runs. Hell, he can steal bases too, that never hurts.

JPA, Lind, KJ, Escobar, Lawrie, Rasmus, Bautista, Thames/Schnider, EE…this lineup should be mashing homeruns next year. Closer is all set…if they can shore up the pen and add another big starter (Gio Gonzalez, Ervin Santana), they’ll be in contention next year I think.

And hey, if Davis can put up an average north of .250 and continue to steal bases like he does, and if KJ puts up some decent numbers, the Jays will have some nice trade pieces at the deadline.

blueandwhite89
3 years 8 months ago

The trick is in the pitching. They need four guys outside of Romero who can be solid starters this season. It will be not more than 81 wins without an improvemnet with the starters.

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

I think Romero and Morrow are the starting points.

I think Cecil or Villaneuva can be ok for the 5th spot.

So you have:

1. Romero
2.
3. Morrow
4.
5. Cecil/Villaneuva

So you need a 2 & 4. I think an inhouse option might be ok for the 4th, like McGowan or you could go after a guy like Jon Garland, Jeff Francis, Edwin Jackson, maybe take a flier on Rich Harden or Brandon Webb, or Hiroki Kuroda…A great number two like Gio Gonzalez, Ervin Santana, Roy Oswalt…etc.

If the rotation looked like this, they’d have a great chance:

1. Romero
2. Santana
3. Morrow
4. Kiroda
5. Cecil/Villaneuva/McGowan

To be perfectly honest, I’d like to see the Jays give up a top prospect or two, Schnider, Thames, etc etc for Justin Upton.

blueandwhite89
3 years 8 months ago

Oh I think There are names to put on spots. Romero, Morrow, Cecil, Villaneuva will all likely be given a shot. Alvarez probably gets the 5th spot. But of those 5 guys you can bank on 2 of then either getting injured or having a rough start. Where do you go from there? Drabek? Litsch? Perez? Well now we are talking about a shaky rotation and another year without the post season.

I agree, at least 1 or 2 starters would be huge.

It will take a lot more than what you are suggesting to get Justin Upton. One of Snider/Drabek/Lawrie would have to be included. Maybe 2.

James Foster
3 years 8 months ago

McGowan, You forgot McGowen.

With What they have now I’d say the Jays Rotation starts out as…

1. Romero
2. Morrow
3. McGowan
4. Alvarez
5. Cecil

… that’s okay but not great. They need another high quality arm in there. Someone good enough to bump Morrow down to the #3 and maybe put Cecil in the pen (since they could use another lefty reliever).  

3 years 8 months ago

Thank you, this is much more reasonable. 

blueandwhite89
3 years 8 months ago

I consider him a gamble at this point. He might get a few starts, but I highly doubt he’ll be pencilled in as the #3 starter. He’s pitched 21 innings in the last 3 years, and didn’t look particularly sharp either.

He can get starts in September when the team is already out of it, but I don’t think Farrel will give him the ball 1 out of every 5 games in April.

I think his comeback is a great story, but you play the game to win.

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah, you’re right. They don’t really need Upton, the lineup is not really issue, and should only get better with Rasmus for the whole year, Lawrie for the whole year, Kelly Johnson for the whole year and improvements from Thames & Arencibia…and hopefully R. Davis.

I hope CJ Wilson signs with the Angels, because then Ervin Santana will most likely be available. If they can get him, another halfway decent starter, and a couple guys for the pen, they WILL contend next year.

Yankees420
3 years 8 months ago

Santana is a #2, yet Edwin Jackson is a #4? 

Zachary Mills
3 years 8 months ago

I think Romero and Morrow are the starting points.

I think Cecil or Villaneuva can be ok for the 5th spot.

So you have:

1. Romero
2.
3. Morrow
4.
5. Cecil/Villaneuva

So you need a 2 & 4. I think an inhouse option might be ok for the 4th, like McGowan or you could go after a guy like Jon Garland, Jeff Francis, Edwin Jackson, maybe take a flier on Rich Harden or Brandon Webb, or Hiroki Kuroda…A great number two like Gio Gonzalez, Ervin Santana, Roy Oswalt…etc.

If the rotation looked like this, they’d have a great chance:

1. Romero
2. Santana
3. Morrow
4. Kiroda
5. Cecil/Villaneuva/McGowan

To be perfectly honest, I’d like to see the Jays give up a top prospect or two, Schnider, Thames, etc etc for Justin Upton.

3 years 8 months ago

Davis probably won’t steal too many bases as the 4th outfielder.

blueandwhite89
3 years 8 months ago

He should get 6.5 mil in Arb.

It’s funny, you would think the market for 2B would be bigger. Hiroyuki Nakajima only gets one suiter and Johnson can’t find a team to pay him more than 6 mil.

I also think its suspicious and AA never talks about this stuff. If theres any truth to this I would expect it will happen right away.

He did have the lowest batting average among all regular 2B’s in all of MLB last season. Was much better after the trade though.

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

Big move AA.

3 years 8 months ago

Could be AA posturing, trying to get another team to put forward a multi-year offer before the arb deadline.  If that is the case though, I am really not sure what the backup plan is.