Braves Rumors: Jurrjens, Prado

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100 Comments on "Braves Rumors: Jurrjens, Prado"


Guest
3 years 7 months ago

That’s alot of health uncertainty in what most claimed to be an “overstocked” rotation…

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coolstorybro222
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah three out of what 10 probable starters have health problems. Plus JJ always had the weird health issues, and Hanson’s pitching stance and windup could end his career soon if he doesn’t change it because of that wicked snapback he does. 

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3 years 7 months ago

Hudson is fine.  And we are still quite “overstocked”.  We have plenty of guys to come up and take spots if needed.

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coolstorybro222
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah. Delgado and Terhan have ML experience and Medlen is in the BP if we need him. 

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Shawnthemon
3 years 7 months ago

Wait, isn’t Thames a left field thumper? 

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3 years 7 months ago

he’s a left-fielder….

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

More like a left field bambi

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3 years 7 months ago

JFYI to Wren/ATL…You aren’t getting anything close to a LF thumper for Prado…And no one wants to take a flier on a SP w/ 4 straight yrs of lost FB velocity (Jurrjens), Bruh!

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bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

Are you suggesting that a pitcher HAS to throw 95 MPH to be effective ? Cause Jurrjens was pitching his way into Cy Young discussions before his injury .

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DaSpiderMonkeys
3 years 7 months ago

How soon people forget it seems. 

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bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

They also think that the decline in his fastball is due to injuries or something . He did actually throw the fastball 92-93 MPH last year at times . He just didn’t need to do it with consistency . Jurrjens pitches with deception . Not , here’s my 95 MPH fastball , see if you can hit it . He works the corners and edges and changes speeds just enough to throw hitters off . He’s not flashy , but effective .

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erm016
3 years 7 months ago

Kind of like Greg Maddux. I’d take that 

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Quacktastic_Duck
3 years 7 months ago

Thank you Javier Vasquez for teaching Jair Jurrjens about pitching. It allowed him for better accuracy and longer outings. I hate that people look at the radar to see if a pitcher is any good. It’s not about how hard you throw it, it’s about throwing strikes and making the guy at the plate not get a good piece of it.

Maddux probably wouldn’t have been drafted these days with that ‘sub-par fastball’ of his.

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DK8
3 years 7 months ago

Maddux actually hit mid 90s when he first came up to the bigs..

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BrandonP
3 years 7 months ago

Im not saying he is the next greg maddux but he pitches a lot like him not very fast but good location with some nasty OS stuff

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DK8
3 years 7 months ago

The Knobler article on CBS Sports says the Braves are telling teams Jurrjens was back up to the mid 90s with his FB in the instructional league…

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

You’re right.  We could get more than just a Left Field Thumper for Prado.  Probably get a few prospects in there, too.  Under valuing a multi position fielder with a great bat is a mistake that, I am glad, Frank Wren will not be making.  So believe me, “bruh”, Prado is worth more than anything your team can afford.

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3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, I see teams beatin’ down the doors to get Prado…And if he was SO VALUABLE…Why is Wren putting him on the block???
Same goes for Jurrjens…And the bit about pitching w/ disception is a LOAD. Dudes FB has dropped significantly for 4yrs running. 92-94 in 2008…Down to mid/upper 80’s in 2011. That’s got RED FLAG written all over it.

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3 years 7 months ago

As far as everyone has seen, he isn’t “on the block”.  He is entertaining offers and is expecting huge returns for those teams that are interested.  That signifies a highly valued player.  We aren’t rushing to get rid of him and would just as soon see him back in a Braves uniform next season. 

Again, on Jurrjens-velocity has NOTHING to do with how well someone pitches.  It could be the way the pitching coach is teaching him to make his delivery.  The guy is a really good pitcher.  Undervalue him if you want.  Again, he will probably be in an Atlanta uniform next year because the return will have to be significant.

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3 years 7 months ago

Never said anything regarding what level of pitcher he was…Just that the velocity loss is a factor & a sign. Sure, Could be that he went away from his 4-seam & used the 2-seam at the request of his PC…Could be they altered his delivery…or it could be that his Stride/Plant Knee is starting to show signs of wear/tear & he’s shortening his stride to compensate  -dropping the velocity – while allowing him to grind through the season…Either way, It’s still a RED FLAG..And that matters in what will be offered vs. what would have been offered w/o that flag!

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bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

It’s amazing that the guy pitched as well as he did last year but is still being given a tag of a red flagged player . Some people make it sound like he can’t throw over 90 MPH anymore . But he clearly did on many occasions last year throw 92-93 MPH when needed . It’s true that he was more consistently around the 88-89 range to locate his pitches . But don’t say that he can’t throw the fastball any higher than 90 when he surely can .

Alot has been said about Jurrjens . But he did have a really good year last year , if not his best , for the time that he was able to pitch .  

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nictonjr
3 years 7 months ago

There’s more concern about 2 straight seasons of 20 and 23 starts.    That’s 43 out of 66-68 starts.  About 2/3.  His first 9 in 2011 were impressive.  The other 34 starts??   You’re asking for a premiere return based on 9 starts…

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BrandonP
3 years 7 months ago

Could you even hit a 90 mph fastball

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bravesdude
3 years 7 months ago

I could and I would sign for the minimum . Once the pitches started to curve though , I would be in trouble .

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BrandonP
3 years 7 months ago

Yep my problem to i would deff. Sit the bench though for league minimum

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BrandonP
3 years 7 months ago

Yep my problem to i would deff. Sit the bench though for league minimum

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3 years 7 months ago

Was this a direct quote form Matt Treanor?

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TimotheusATL
3 years 7 months ago

even though i know it’s a pipe dream (because he’d actually cost money), i’d actually like to see buehrle in atlanta.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Why? The last thing the Braves need to do is commit to a FA starting pitcher. It is not even really about the money, but about the depth charts.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, I am pretty sure the last time we did that, we got crappy years outta Lowe

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TimotheusATL
3 years 7 months ago

oh, it’s got nothing to do with reality. i just threw my first “the show” no-hitter with him years ago, so i’ve always kinda liked him.

and yes, with liberty media, it’s always about the money.