Manny Ramirez Files For Reinstatement

MONDAY, 4:37am: Olney tweets that it's "unlikely, but possible" that the Rays will show interest in bringing Ramirez back.

SUNDAY, 8:44pm: In a news release, MLB has confirmed that Ramirez has applied for reinstatement and will serve a 50-game suspension, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

8:32pm: The Rays aren't expected to have any interest in signing Ramirez again, tweets Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times.

6:04pm: The Mariners are probably not interested in signing Ramirez, a source tells Buster Olney of (via Twitter).

4:01pm: Olney tweets that the early response from evaluators around baseball is that an AL team will give Manny a non-roster invite to Spring Training to see if he can still hit. Olney also speculates that the following teams will have no interest in Ramirez: the Red Sox, Yankees, Royals, Tigers, White Sox, Indians, Twins, Rangers, Angels, and A's (more Twitter links).

3:14pm: A source tells ESPN's Buster Olney that Ramirez has already filed for reinstatement and that he will indeed serve a 50-game suspension rather than 100. Ramirez is currently working out in Florida. He and his agents have told teams that he is ready to begin discussions. Ramirez's suspension clock wouldn't begin until he signs a contract (all Twitter links).

2:22pm: Morosi clarifies that the Players' Union will argue that Ramirez effectively served his 100-game suspension last season. MLB will need to apply some form of punishment though, and Morosi says a 50-game suspension is a likely compromise. The 50-game violation isn't official, but both sides "seem amenable to it," says Morosi (Twitter links).

1:55pm: Manny Ramirez apparently isn't done "being Manny" yet. The troubled slugger will file for reinstatement from Major League Baseball's voluntary retired list according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Ramirez has hired agents Barry Praver and Scott Shapiro, and will be eligible to play in the 2012 season following a 50-game suspension, though his initial punishment was a 100-game suspension.

Ramirez signed a one-year deal to be the Rays' primary designated hitter last season, but abruptly retired in the season's first week after he tested positive for a banned substance for the second time in his career.

Without the PED controversy, the 39-year-old's career numbers would make him a lock for the Hall of Fame. He owns a career .312/.411/.585 triple slash line with 555 long balls. Those credentials are obviously questionable in light of drug testing though, and nearly 74% of MLBTR readers who responded to this April poll said they didn't feel Ramirez should make it to Cooperstown.

116 Responses to Manny Ramirez Files For Reinstatement Leave a Reply

  1. Redsoxn8tion 4 years ago

    Oh that’s just Manny being Manny.

  2. I believe that would be 100 games.

  3. Dynasty22 4 years ago

    No bueno.

  4. Jonathan Gallo 4 years ago

    Manny being Farve.

  5. Devern Hansack 4 years ago

    Would anyone even want him at this point?

    • JacksTigers 4 years ago

      For the league minimum off the bench? Sure.

      • Without ‘roids he isn’t worth that, and with them he is out of baseball for life.  What is the over-under he fails a test?

    • If he does sign with somebody, he won’t do anything spectacular. I think its a waste of money.

  6. Mark12 4 years ago

    It was to be 100. He got 50 with the dodgers.

  7. j6takish 4 years ago

    Isn’t it 100 games since he is a multiple offender?

  8. hallwagner 4 years ago

    oh dear

  9. GrayhawkAZ 4 years ago

    Wouldn’t he technically belong to the Rays still? Is the system similar to football? Where players can not announce retirement just get away from a team? Not to say the Rays want them but is it possible?

  10. briantalletsmoustache 4 years ago

    Likely just trying to delay his official retirement date, to put as much space between his positive steroids test and when he becomes eligible for the HOF.

    • nathanalext 4 years ago

      It don’t work that way. It’s based on the last game played not when “officially” announcing your retirement.

      • tacko 4 years ago

        It’s actually five years after a player files for retirement. It’s part of the reason why players like Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens are holding back their retirement papers. 

        Aside from their court issues, they want to see what becomes of the HOF-steroid issue before they get on the ballot and potentially receive < 5% of the votes and lose ballot eligibility. 

        Manny may just as well be employing a similar tactic. No doubt A-Rod pulls the same thing if the HOF-steroid issue isn't cleared by the time he "retires."

        • imachainsaw 4 years ago

          i’m pretty sure that’s not true, and nathanalext has it right

          • sourbob 4 years ago

            Yup. Nathanalext has it right. A good example of how it’s the five year rule that matters, as opposed to the player’s expressed desire to retire would be Jose Rijo. Rijo had multiple Tommy John surgeries and hadn’t played in 5 years in 2000. he insisted he wasn’t retired but he went on the HoF ballot anyway. Then he made a comeback the next year and pitched parts of two seasons.

            Yup: the BBHOF site says to be eligible to go on the ballot, “Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five calendar years preceding the election.”

            It says nothing at all about the timing of filing paperwork.

          • $21002046 4 years ago

            This from the Hall of Fame web site:
            “Players who are eligible have played 10 seasons of Major League Baseball and have been retired from for five full seasons. For example, those players eligible for consideration in 2012 will have played their final game in 2006. Those players eligible for consideration in 2013 will have last played in 2007, etc.”
            Soundsfrom that like ballot eligibility occurs after their last game

        • I don’t think Rickey Henderson ever officially retired.

    • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

      Do you actually think he cares about the HOF? Doubt it.

      • PaulieM 4 years ago

        Not even sure he is intelligent enough to comprehend what the HOF is

        • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

          LOL Yeah that’s kind of what I was going for. I don’t think he cares about the HOF at all. He seems to be one of those guys that will retire and nobody will ever hear from him again. If he got inducted, I could see him not even showing up to the ceremony.

          • demonopie 4 years ago

            What everyone is forgetting is his agent’s hand in all of this. He is most likely the one behind Manny’s return, While there is money to be made, there will be plenty of people sticking their hands out and lining their own pockets.

          • jjs91 4 years ago

            If the agents hand was really that important manny would have never retired. I still dont get why he did theres bo difference between being retired and being suspended.

  11. grownice 4 years ago

    Yes! Manny’s back! , i actually hope some team signs him  just for the entertainment value.

  12. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    I hear the Marlins have made an aggressive offer

  13. Hal 4 years ago

    Manny is a joke to the game

  14. nathanalext 4 years ago

    He will have to wait until McGwire, Palmeiro, et al get in the HOF before he’s even considered really. If he’s in, so are they.

  15. Encarnacion's Parrot 4 years ago

    RE: Cooperstown: I’m surprised anyone really cares about the HoF. It’s not needed to remember a player, and it’s more of a gimmick than anything.

    • grownice 4 years ago

       It’s not a gimmick to the guys who truly deserve it. Still a huge honor.

    • imachainsaw 4 years ago

      tell that to what’s-his-name and who’s-its

  16. Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

    I plan to be flamed, but I’ll say it anyway.

    Manny might not be the best person or teammate. But the guy can hit the ball good. And he only used steroids to keep his health. He wasn’t like Bonds or McGwire and used them to get better. He only used them to keep himself younger and to keep his health.

    I plan to be disagreed with, but it’s true. He shouldn’t go in the HoF. But the guy is a good player.

    • nathanalext 4 years ago

      Just curious, why would’ve Bonds needed them to get better? He was probably a HOF player BEFORE steroids. He became more of a longshot after and because of them.

      • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

        Barry used extreme amounts of roids and used really strong one’s (Masteron, Winstrol, and a few other things.)

    • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

      I think people are likely to respond bby saying “How do you know?”. I wouldn;t disagree with the second paragraph of your post because it isn’t that controversial. The first part though about why he took roids… Do you know Manny? How the hell do you know why he took them?

      • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

        “The first part though about why he took roids… Do you know Manny? How the hell do you know why he took them?”

        The types of steroids he took weren’t like the ones Mark and Barry took. They were on hardcore roids where as Manny was on some weaker ones. Also, Manny took a lot of women fertility drugs and other things, they can be used to keep health at times (And to cover up real steroid use too, so he probably used them for 2 reasons)

        • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

          Fair enough. I don’t pretend to know the difference. I find it hard to believe that he took all that stuff to stay healthy though. They’re called performance enhancing drugs for a reason.

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            Manny is the only steroid user I stand up for. I hate the rest, and none of them deserve to be in the HoF. But Manny was given a bad break in the last few years.

          • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

            He used banned substances by MLB knowingly. How is that a bad break?

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            It is when he didn’t do nearly the amounts Bonds and McGwire did and they walked away from it and no one gives them as much hassle as they do to Manny.

          • Cavman_Boland 4 years ago

            Everyone gives bends a hard time. They did for McGwire too until he came out and apologized.

          • ramjamrock 4 years ago

            “no one gives them as much hassle as they do to Manny.”

            You CAN’T be serious.

          • flickadave 4 years ago

            Yeah, he was given a bad break. Twice. It’s sad enough that he had the first bad break when he was with the Dodgers, I’m really heartbroken about the SECOND bad break he had with the Rays. Hang on a sec, I need to get a tissue.

        • jwsox 4 years ago

          Female fertility drugs are taken by ex roid users to safely maintain their estrogen levels and testosterone levels once they stop using roids. When some one stops using any kind of steroids their test levels drop while their estrogen levels jump bthe fertility drugs help balance those levels. Thts why he
          Was using them.

          • Chipper_is_GOD 4 years ago

            Yeah that’s it.

            I was off by a lot. My steroid knowledge isn’t what it used to be. I knew a fertility drug was used to keep health, but it was to keep health after steroids. Not while on steroids. So yeah, I was wrong about that.

          • Slopeboy 4 years ago

            Please stop with all your speculative BS. The real reason Manny took the female fertility drugs was to be able to deliver a healthy love child fathered by David Ortiz. No other reason.

        • johnsilver 4 years ago

          ” Manny took a lot of women fertility drugs”

          HAHAHA Why does that not surprise me? He always was a “squatter” deep down.

      • manny took roid for the same reason everybody does roids will turn  a warning track power player in to a homerum hitter will turn a good player to great player or great player  to like barry bond

    • PaulieM 4 years ago

      If you don’t think Manny was using in his 20s you are delusional

    • flickadave 4 years ago

      How do you know he can “hit the ball good (sic)”? How do you know kind of hitter he would have been if he hadn’t had steroids to pump him up? He might have been a mediocre or bad hitter whose on and off the field antics would have made him a MLB untouchable many, many years before he “retired”? No one except Manny knows when he started juicing. He might have started in high school.

      • Manny Ramirez was always obscenely talented and productive.  Go back and look at his minor league numbers.  There is high school scouting video bouncing around somewhere as well.  Argue all you want about his durability and longevity being aided by performance enhancers, but there is no doubt about his talent from an early age on.

        • flickadave 4 years ago

          Just because Manny could “hit the ball good” since high school (where he batted like .650 or so iirc) doesn’t mean he could do it without steroids. Like I said before and you seemed to ignore… He might have been juicing since high school. It isn’t like he would be the first athelete to juice while still in high school.

    • I really don’t see how this is a defensible argument. Yeah, he was a great hitter, no one can take that away from him. When he truly tried and truly cared, almost no one was on his level. But, the “reason” he might have taken steroids and the amount of steroids taken is immaterial. He took steroids and rather than serve his second offense and stay with the team that signed him, he chose to “retire” and now come back. It says a lot about his character. 

      If he stopped what he was doing, admitted it and moved on, he’d have a lot more respect in the league (not that he cares about that, I’m sure). Giambi admitted to steroids years ago and is still playing and is rarely brought up anymore in that conversation. 

  17. Patrick the Pragmatist 4 years ago

    If they would stop testing for PED at 40,  he might still be productive.

    And that might not be a bad idea,  let the old guys get an edge.  Just joking,  don’t respond.

  18. bonestock94 4 years ago

    He should have just served the suspension last year if he wanted to play. Seems dumb.

    • PaulieM 4 years ago

      HeiIS epically dumb, like borderline retarded, but thanks to PEDs, he was retard strong

  19. i dont think he has the number to be in hof because he was not a great outfielder and then with all these with steroid that make it more impossible for him to be elected…to me his numbers are compatible with jim rice and he enventually got in after how many years..i dont know i know we are a forgiving society after time has passed may be he has a chance

    • start_wearing_purple
      start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

      “i dont think he has the number to be in hof because he was not a great outfielder”

      That’s just insane. He has over 500 home runs, second most RBIs of hitters in this generation, and an OPS+ ranking 25 of all time. Doesn’t have the numbers? You’ve got to be joking.

      Personally I just don’t want confirmed steroid users in the Hall. It seems hypocritical to call them great.

  20. $21002046 4 years ago

    Manny was using with Joey Belle in the 90’s. I call BS on the “staying healthy” crap. He mostly stood around immobile in LF and batted. He never slid or hustled in the field or on the bases. Why wouldn’t he stay healthy?

    • Don’t forget the Palmeiro-Juan Gonzales-Canseco connection to Cleveland and Manny.

      The steroid era may have started in Oakland, but it really got rolling in Texas.

  21. flickadave 4 years ago

    If Manny wants to come back to MLB, he should serve the full 100 game suspension that he would have been given if he hadn’t “retired”. Period.

  22. I have a sick feeling in my stomach that the Rays might bring him back. They like to go cheap.

    • Onetimeaccount 4 years ago

      I hope they do. I’m not sure if they would risk being apart of his story twice in two years though.

  23. I guess he needs a paycheck real bad.

  24. Just doesn’t make sense to me that the MLB feels the need to find middle-ground with the Player’s Union. The MLB set these penalties up to be used in cases of confirmed PED use. Makes the rules seem even more of a joke to the fans of the game than they already are.
    I get he missed last season. That was his choice. The penalty is still his to serve, that’s not anyone’s problem but his. 

    He should get an extra 62 game penalty added on for the mockery. 

  25. Not this train-wreck again…

  26. The better question is what teams might bite…maybe the Mets, the O’s or the Blue Jays? Not sure if the Mariners are really that desperate. Manny could be a decent chip if he exceeds when the deadline arrives.

  27. Saw Manny multiple times in spring training last year.  He was just raking the ball everywhere on a line.  Then the unexplained hiatus for a few days (a family matter) and he returned to start the season.  He was horrible when the season started.  I think he had one hit – an infield job.  I had to think that he was juicing during the spring, got caught and stopped, hence the surprisingly big drop off.   I don’t think he has anything left when juiceless.  Teams should stay away.

    • JacksTigers 4 years ago

      I don’t think steroids work like that. You don’t immediately fall off the boat. It happens over time. They help you exercise. They don’t give you muscles. 

      • I tend to think that you are right.  In fact, I was always a bit skeptical about the whole steroids impact on hitting a baseball.  The difference in Manny was so extreme that I started to wonder myself.  Maybe knowing that he had gotten caught got to his head and he couldn’t hit in the regular season.  He really was killing the ball in the spring which had gotten Rays fans attention.  I can’t imagine he would be worth a roster spot.

        • Slopeboy 4 years ago

          You have not been paying attention the last two years. Just look at the power numbers throughout MLB. Just about all the power numbers are down in both leagues and the pitching numbers are up. Why would that be?

  28. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    I think there will be more interest than just the Jays, O’s, Rays, and M’s.

  29. nyr4life 4 years ago

    he retired without officially serving his suspension, mlb needs to adhere to its policy and make him serve his suspension or else their whole policy is a joke, this is is second time CAUGHT CHEATING.If it was arod, you can be damn sure he’d have to serve the full suspension whether he retired, died or whatever.

  30. BLEACHER_CREATURD 4 years ago

    Boston needs to sign him so he can retire in his rightful home.

  31. SixAces 4 years ago

    So does he get suspended as soon as he returns to the MLB? Or does he get away with it?

  32. in the words of gollum: leave now and never come back

  33. Shu13 4 years ago

    Just retire Manny and let the Dodgers pay you the next 2 seasons…..GO AWAY

  34. Manny needs to serve some indy league time.

  35. lefty177 4 years ago

    so pretty much he’s already down to 5 AL teams?

  36. BoSox617 4 years ago

    i hear the marlins are making an aggresive offer to julio franco

  37. eyedessert 4 years ago

    So now it’s pretty much between the Orioles and Blue Jays (unless of course the NL is a possibility.)

  38. hodag435 4 years ago

    My team Hodag435, has no interest in Manny.

  39. Manny 4 years ago

    I’m back baby

  40. Jerrymar Torres 4 years ago

    So what the Rays have no problems trading for a rapist but cant have junkie Manny?

  41. Israel Piedra 4 years ago

    A good fit for the Orioles. I would bet money the man can still rake. 

  42. Matt Moore 4 years ago

    Just…. Just… Why???….

  43. nestleraisinets 4 years ago

    best news evah!!!

  44. Eddie Robbins 4 years ago

    Is there a way to block all Manny references on my computer?

  45. MannyBeingMVP 4 years ago

    I would sign Manny to a one-year minor league contract that guarantees the major league minimum and, after the suspension is completed, make him prove himself for 40-50 games in the minors before bringing him to the major leagues.  (Especially if I was a small market, American League team.)

  46. Liam_Ho 4 years ago

    The fact that he ran away instead of serving out his suspension, lost any hope of redeeming himself, despite what little there was to begin with.

    The way he went out was his decision, no one forced him out. The guy has proved time and again he just cares about himself. No respect for the game at all.

  47. cookmeister 4 years ago

    wouldn’t it be 100 games?

  48. pennypincher 4 years ago

    Considering his on-field accomplishments, yes, it wasn’t the right way.
    However, considering everything else, e.g. multiple steroids, lying, beating up a tickets guy, being a whiny primadonna, and of course, acting like a selfish c**t, “retiring” as soon as the positive result came back. 

     He screwed over the Dodgers with his first suspension, making them roll out Juan Pierre.

    He almost screwed over the Rays with his second “suspension”/retirement.  They were inches away from missing the playoffs, and they had help from a very un-Kotchman like Kotchman.

    It’s usually cool or exciting if a player came back after several years of inactivity and adds a few more memorable games to his career, but guys like Favre, Ramirez and Clemens makes it much less tolerable.  Whichever team sign him should get ready for some migraine-causing jackass moments.  

    He’s entertaining at times, but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a self-centered, cheating, lying jack-ass.

  49. bravesdude 4 years ago

    Ha !! I love it .

  50. hodag435 4 years ago

    a beautiful work of art

  51. MB923 4 years ago

    LOL did you make this?

  52. lefty177 4 years ago

    Orioles & Jays now

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