NL East Links: Marlins, Vazquez, Braves, Nationals

Twelve years ago today, the Mets traded Octavio Dotel, Roger Cedeno, and Kyle Kessel to the Astros for Mike Hampton and Derek Bell. Hampton pitched to a 3.14 ERA in 217 2/3 innings during his one season in New York, then signed his monster eight-year, $121MM contract with the Rockies that winter. Here's the latest from continually improving the NL East…


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42 Comments on "NL East Links: Marlins, Vazquez, Braves, Nationals"


chico65
3 years 7 months ago

First Boras is “gunning for”.  Now there’s talk of him getting “bailed out”.  Any chance Mike thinks what Boras has done in his career is criminal?

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

Nats trade to get Gio and the Mets end up with a Rob Johnson print up those playoff tickets Mets. lol  

rikersbeard
3 years 7 months ago

because the mets were trying to make the playoffs in ’12.

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

Rob Johnson is the missing link. the core 4 Torres,,Rob Johnson,Lucas May, Chuck James. watch out NL East

MetsMagic
3 years 7 months ago

I’m tired of other Mets fans going insane every time another team in the division does anything to improve. They have the right to get better, just as the Mets, who won’t be any good in 2012 regardless of trades/signings, have the right not to make knee-jerk Vince Coleman-esque reactions in response to said other teams. 

chico65
3 years 7 months ago

Vince Coleman-esque reactions?  Dems fightin words.

Jessy Scholl
3 years 7 months ago

Scott Boras shouldn’t worry.  Prince Fielder will sign with the Yankees and Ryan Madson has just became one of the best pitchers on the market.  That is after Edwin Jackson.

3 years 7 months ago

There is no way on earth Prince signs with the Yankees. 

tomymogo
3 years 7 months ago

Javier Vazquez shouldn’t retire…..I hope Braves would sign him to trade Jurrjens.

3 years 7 months ago

You want the Braves to trade Jurrjens to make room for…..Vazquez?  You do watch baseball right?

3 years 7 months ago

I mean, that wouldn’t be that bad if we didn’t have 3 minor leaguers waiting in the wings to put up more-than Vazquez numbers. If you recall he was an ace in Atlanta and unbelievable down the stretch in Florida last year. I don’t think he’s a ranked free agent, so that’s also a plus. Prospects/OFer for JJ and an innings eater to go in Atlanta’s rotation to give the bullpen a break from our 5/6 innings guys we’ll be sending out.

But as it stands Delgado and Teheran need experience much more than Javy could help us.

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

If he doesn’t retire, there’s a high chance he signs back with the Marlins, mostly because it gives him the easiest way to get back to Puerto Rico in a hurry. Braves would have no chance at signing him.

FillyPhan
3 years 7 months ago

I think the Phillies should wait out the market and then get Damon on the cheap to fill out their need for a big bat/ LF if need be

$21002046
3 years 7 months ago

When did Damon start batting right handed? I’ll let the big bat comment slide…..

atlbravosfan11
3 years 7 months ago

huh? you do know damon is left handed, right?

austinhb
3 years 7 months ago

since when is Damon a big bat?

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

I get what you are saying but like you said your sick of hearing well we are sick of not doing anything. I agree knee jerk reactions don’t help but we do nothing to improve ourselves and by venting it makes some of us feel better to get it off our chest. I agree it gets old but still it is fustrating that we are great fans each and every one of us. and what happens is we get the shaft by the Wilpons for not selling and getting a owner willing to put his money where his mouth is.

MetsMagic
3 years 7 months ago

There is nothing to do, sadly. Having broke owners sucks, but not doing the prudent thing, rebuilding, and throwing money at fringe players to try to make an unlikely playoff run slightly less impossible sucks too.

Would signing big free agents help in the short term, possibly the medium term help? Probably, but most of the time you’ll end up with George Foster, who was ok but was largely a waste of time and money for us. I’m tired of contending for two to three years at a time and having nothing to show for it after. The Wilpons will be gone sooner than later, if that helps you feel any better. 

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

i hear you but if we are broke rebuilding ususal has a positive outcome but the problem is that they let a home grown talent walk away in Reyes and same with Wright so what i am saying you can rebuild but if your only going to let them leave in their prime. Stop going to the games so we can push out the Wilpons then if new owners say rebuild ok but the Wilpons is just fire sale for the sake of having money to pay Piccard in two or three years nothing for the team or us. Thats my problem. its going cheap. but will the tickets keep going down in price hardly.

$21002046
3 years 7 months ago

rw, you are feelling the way Twins fans do. We had a 94 win team a couple of years ago but couldn’t get past the Yankees as usual. With billionaire owners and a new stadium, the expectation was Pohlads would do what was needed to get the team over the hump. Instead they gave away a good SS, and let the bullpen walk, all over a matter of maybe $10 million. Now the team sucks and their solution so far has been Jamey Carroll, Ryan Doumit and Jason Marquis- an expenditure of less than $10 million, while $40 mil has been lopped off the payroll from opening day 2011. I feel your pain

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

Well you do have Mauer for 8 more years that is what you got for openning a new stadium. but you gave up on Ramos to the Nationals for your current closer. 

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

 I never been to Minny but without starting a civil war but in NY you should have a payroll way higher then Minny and KC but Mets are managing their team with a below 100 is like being in KC under 50 million

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

ever team should be able to maintain a payroll over 100 million as a floor.

rwdavis22461
3 years 7 months ago

 Not only should teams get a luxury tax over a certain amount but teams should get hit with a tax if they do not maintain a payroll over a x amount.

NYBravosFan10
3 years 7 months ago

I’m unbelievably astonished that this site hasn’t said anything about the rumored deal being discussed between the Royals, Red Sox and Braves. Are you guys being paid to keep quiet about it? 😉

Braves95
3 years 7 months ago

What rumor are you talking about?

NYBravosFan10
3 years 7 months ago

There was a tweet from a Royals website that said there is discussion going on between the Sox, Royals and Braves about a three-team trade. Royals would get Jair Jurrjens, Red Sox would get Joakim Soria and the Braves would get Lorenzo Cain, Marco Scutaro and others.

austinhb
3 years 7 months ago

That makes no sense, it wasn’t a tweet it was a fanshot, made by a fan on the sb nation site, total speculation. Why would the Royals give up Soria+Cain for Jurrjens, and why would the Redsox be able to get Soria by only giving up Scutaro? Seems like the royals would be getting fleeced in that deal

austinhb
3 years 7 months ago

oh it was a tweet by Piodeportes, lol, so literally no substance to it

3 years 7 months ago

There is nothing about it because it was shot down right away and there is nothing to it. It was a small tweet about a possible talk that was nothing. 

NYBravosFan10
3 years 7 months ago

where was it shot down?

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

Rumors are only mentioned if they involve a mystery team.

omavricko
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t get why Morrison is off limits. Stanton for sure but putting Morrison in the same untouchable category I’m confused.

I can’t believe Gio was so wanted. I think the Nationals are gonna be disappointed

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

They’re not in the same untouchable category. Morrison was a no, Stanton was a hell no.

omavricko
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t get why Morrison is off limits. Stanton for sure but putting Morrison in the same untouchable category I’m confused.

I can’t believe Gio was so wanted. I think the Nationals are gonna be disappointed

elbeisbol
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think Fielder needs bailing out and no one else on that list fits a Nationals need, so… keep waiting, “baseball people”.

nats2012
3 years 7 months ago

I know and why do baseball people think the Nats will bail Boras out, because they signed ONE of his clients in the last 5 years?

rsanchez1
3 years 7 months ago

They accepted all prospects from the Natinals, but they wanted either Stanton or Morrison from us? Beane, if you didn’t want to do business with the Marlins, you should’ve said so.

Matt Talbert
3 years 7 months ago

LoMa isn’t ‘untouchable’ for goodness sakes.  He is not exactly a top shelf stud.  He is a clubhouse cancer and needs to be dealt to a better team, unless all these moves will shut him up.

atlbravosfan11
3 years 7 months ago

?????

3 years 7 months ago

The results haven’t been there yet but Gio is not mediocre talent in anyway. Unless AJ Cole develops big time this could be a big win for the Nats. 

rundmc1981
3 years 7 months ago

With all this overpaying going on (i.e. Latos, Gio Gonzalez), I’m surprised it’s not enough to convince NYM to trade Wright and ask the fans for either a mulligan or blame it on Madoff. NYM managed to get a great prospect for Beltran, why not do the same with Wright or else he could end up like Reyes and not going anything more than a 2nd rd pick and a lot of confused fans wondering why they didn’t put up more of a fight.