Pitching Rumors: Red Sox, Felix, Giants, Jurrjens

The Nationals, Red Sox, Marlins, Blue Jays, Royals, Tigers, Mariners, Yankees and Orioles are among the teams still looking to add one or more starting pitchers this offseason, according to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com. Here are more details on the market for starting pitching:

  • The Red Sox are “in on everybody,” Knobler reports. Peter Gammons of MLB Network confirms that the Red Sox are still looking for starters (Twitter link).
  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports makes the case that the Mariners should trade Felix Hernandez this offseason, but Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik disagrees. “I still say, as I’ve said all along, we’ve still got the best young pitcher in the game, and that’s pretty darned good,” Zduriencik said. Rosenthal pointed to the prospects the Padres obtained for Mat Latos and the fact that the AL West has become tougher this offseason.
  • The Giants aren’t looking for a free agent to replace Jonathan Sanchez, but are interested in adding pitchers who are willing to accept minor league contracts, tweets Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle.
  • The Orioles, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Rockies, Tigers and Rangers are among the teams that have expressed some interest in Jair Jurrjens, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The Braves have suggested they won’t trade the right-hander within their division.


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342 Comments on "Pitching Rumors: Red Sox, Felix, Giants, Jurrjens"


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NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

OMG if I see one more post listing off the teams that have expressed interest in Jurrjens and Prado I might burn something. That little snippet about not trading in the division is new though, that’s a start lol

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

if you burn something, can you make it Alex Rodriguez? it would do us alllll a favor

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Devern Hansack
3 years 6 months ago

If you’re a Sox fan, you’d want A-Rod to be alive. The dude is costing the Yankees more than $20MM per year through 2017 and his body is already falling apart.

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

but if A-Rod was disfigured and unable to play the Yankees would still have to pay him, and he’d be giving them literally 0 production. I guess it’s true I want him alive so it hurts them (I thank God every day that Bud Selig vetoed the A-Rod-to-Boston trade back in late ’03…I am convinced ’04 and ’07 would have been different had he been wearing “BOSTON” on his jersey.)

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

was disfigured ya you might want to get some help

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

I’m sorry? are you implying he is ALREADY disfigured, and I need help (i.e. eyesight checked) or that I need help (i.e. psychiatrist/therapy/etc)?

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

Lets put it this way is the following sentence normal? Hey you know what would be great if cherington signed ortiz to a 3 yr deal and on his way home  ortiz drove home and got into a car accident paralyzing both!!! Boy would that make things easier for the yankees.

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

from a yankee fan’s perspective that’s perfectly normal, but I guess I see your point. Just don’t like A-Rod personally. how about if I replace “disfigured” with “permanant case of amnesia” or “perpetually physically unable to play”?

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

No, it isn’t “perfectly normal,” it’s at best cruel-spirited and at worst deranged.

I hate A-Rod as a player too, but to wish bodily harm is rotten to begin with, but disfiguring and crippling trauma is just disgusting.

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captainjeter
3 years 6 months ago

you need help if you wish harm on anyone. I don’t like A Rod, but I would never wish him harm.

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chico65
3 years 6 months ago

Both our fanbases can be a bit over the top sometimes.  I’m not sure the rivalry would be what it is without some of the more colorful elements.  That being said, this dude needs help.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 Getting the mvp in 07 would undoubtedly hurt the  redsox no ifs and or buts about that

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

yeah and how did A-Rod do in the ’04 ALCS to the ’07 ALDS in the postseason? i dont care if you hit 100 homers in the regular season…if you turtle in the spotlight of the playoffs (as he has done every year since ’04 with the exception of 2009 when they won it all and 2008 when they failed to qualify for postseason play)…plus that contract is a 20,000 pound anchor weighing the yanks down. he’ll be over 40 (could be already, actually…you never know) and they’ll be paying him like he’s 27 and in his prime…my basic point is the regular season mvp is all well and good but he’s been generally pretty awful in the playoffs.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

He’s hit 100 home runs in a year before? Wow! If A-Rod can stay healthy, he can produce. If he’s healthy, he’s still one of the best players in baseball. Unfortunately, he can’t stay healthy.

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

lol. funny. i was exaggerating for effect.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

Ya but when ortiz puts up the same exact postseason numbers as arod has he’s great right?

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

we can argue this point all night. but I will always believe the Sox not getting A-Rod was the best thing to happen to the franchise in, well, 86 years. remember, the sox would have lost Manny in that deal, the eventual ’04 WS MVP. if A-rod is on the sox in 04 maybe he slaps the ball out of Kevin Brown’s hand and karma comes after the sox like it did the yankees? it’s just impossible to know for sure. but I didn’t want A-Rod then (believe it or not) and I am sure glad we didn’t get him now.

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

You forget that A-Rod back then might have been worth it. Remember, you wouldn’t have him now. Only my Yankees’ front office could F up and resign him to that huge deal after he opted out.

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

while that may be true, i still view is as dodging a metaphorical bullet; A-Rod is washed up at “Thirty-five”

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NickinIthaca
3 years 6 months ago

A-Rod would have to have some connections to lie about his age, considering he was born in New York City in 1975.  I know it was a rough city then, but something tells me he’s got a pretty valid birth certificate and social security number.

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

Do I smell a Luke Scott “where’s the birth certificate” joke brewing?

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

 But i  just love when people bring up postseason stats like they mean anything just look at this postseason cruz has a terrible first round porbably one of the worst in history if his tampa beat them he becomes a goat but nope how he’s going to be remembered and it’s all because some fans are too stupid to realize how this game works

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

the postseason is where legends are made, though. Look at Reggie Jackson, “Mr. October.” he is a hall of famer! and part of his legend is his prowess when the games were for all the marbles. and I disagree cruz wouldn’t have been a goat if the rays beat the rangers in the first round. if anything he’s a goat now for that dropped ball in game 6 of the fall classic. and i really don’t appreciate you calling me stupid, I’m trying to have a polite conversation about my favorite sport (baseball), can we keep it civil? btw, i am guessing you’re a yankees fan?

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Fred_G_Sanford
3 years 6 months ago

Odd that Reggie Jackson is “Mr. October” with a career line of .278/.358/.527 and A-Rod is this horrible choker with a .277/.386/.498 line in the postseason.

Oh well, let’s just forget a few postseason series (“aside from 2009 A-Rod SUCKS!!!11″) so make it look more lopsided.

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jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

And based off that logic arod should be a postseason legend his stats are good enough. I also dont understand the talk of cility from a guy who just wished a father of two to be burned or disafigured because it screw over a baseball team

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chico65
3 years 6 months ago

He’s made 85 comments on weei.  Reasoning is a skill beyond his grasp. 

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

yeah, yeah, yeah. you’re hilarious.

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chico65
3 years 6 months ago

Know what is hilarious?  You see that guy named DickHarden posting?

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captainjeter
3 years 6 months ago

typical sick twisted Sox fan

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

Equally rationale, well done.

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chico65
3 years 6 months ago

I know the brits like to add extra “u”s to things.  Now, is it the Aussies that like to add extra “e”s? 

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

Typo, actually. And the Aussies use the “Queen’s English,” so they do the “u” thing just like England and Canada. I don’t think they throw “e’s” into things.

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chico65
3 years 6 months ago

Obviously.  I was just trying to subtly call your attention to it and make a joke.  Admittedly it wasn’t a good one.

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RedSx799
3 years 6 months ago

yeah because when I went to New Yankee Stadium for a game and someone
asked me “how bout those yankees” and I responded “Actually I like the
Sox” the fact that the (WOMAN!) proceeded to spit on me, called me a
‘dirty mexican’ dumped her beer on my head, and encouraged her jackwagon
frinds to throw THEIR beers at me and spent the entire rest of the game spewing obscenities, threats, and incoherent nonsense at me, that
really made the yankee fan base look good. no, really. and don’t tell
me, ‘well thats what you get for admitting your a sox fan in yankee
stadium,’ because that’s bull. you shouldn’t expect to be physically and
emotionally assaulted over a  sporting event. and so what if I want
a-rod to get hurt? I didnt say I want him to get in a massive car crash,
I merely want him to trip over his own feet and shatter his leg, or
something similar. I don’t want the man dead, i just want him to GO AWAY
so I don’t have to see him. my original wording was unfortunate and brought upon partially by a desire to be humorous (poor humor, I admit), and I will ammend my original remark: “If you burn something, can you make it MetLife Stadium?”

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BaseballLogic_Braves
3 years 6 months ago

More like more than $30MM.

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PWNdroia
3 years 6 months ago

Funny how he falls apart only after all the steroid allegations.

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rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

Did you read the Jon Heyman link? It’s pretty entertaining considering he concluded with teams are weary about trading for pitching with ATL considering their record, indicating that ATL knows exactly when to trade a pitcher and get the most value. I’m assuming he’s referring to Vazquez (to NYY), Denny Neagle (to CIN), and maybe a handful of others.

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diesel2410
3 years 6 months ago

When are the Red Sox NOT in on everybody?

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NYBravosFan10
3 years 6 months ago

Never. They are a very open-minded club and always seem to treat the free agent/trade market in a very unorthodox way. Noone even bothers asking Red Sox hot stove insiders about predictions anymore because they all quit their jobs from being wrong all the time.

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3 years 6 months ago

When it’s not an area of need/area that could be improved, which is rare.

Fielder is an example.

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Trent Norton
3 years 6 months ago

Wow, something about Felix not talking about the Yankees! ZOMG LOL LAWL Oh wait…read the article and that is incorrect :(

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sam_lammert
3 years 6 months ago

Hernandez for Swaggerty straight up

the reason the mariners will be all over this is because, lets be honest, who doesn’t want someone with the last name swaggerty on their team?

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bonds2425
3 years 6 months ago

I do!! :)

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3 years 6 months ago

Hernandez is not getting moved, why can’t people stop with the rumors? Of course, everyone would want him on their team, but he is staying in Seattle for at least one more year.

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

Because the Angels and Rangers are so much better than the Mariners that they aren’t going to compete any time soon.

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3 years 6 months ago

It will be years before the Mariners or A’s compete. But trading Hernandez right now wouldn’t be very wise. Look at the 2007 Rays and the 2008 Rays, a lot can change.

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3 years 6 months ago

Not quite following, the major differences were acquiring Jackson, Garza, and Bartlett through separate minor trades and signing a bunch of relievers while letting Longo take over third base. I don’t see the Rays trading Upton, Crawford, Pena, Kazmir, or Shields who were the big pieces of their team. The only thing which comes close is trading Delmon Young who did not have the best year in ’07.

Just not following how this compares to the Mariners who have an ace any team would want at the top of their staff and the benefits of trading him? Personally I say the M’s are better off holding onto him and trying to build around Felix and Ackley and signing Fielder. 

Hamilton/Cruz/Beltre/Kinsler/Napoli are all aging or health concerns and I’d take my chances in a race with Anaheim if I was Seattle, or at least try to become a wild card contender and ya know, make Felix WANT to stay when his contract runs out.

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0bsessions
3 years 6 months ago

I think you missed his point. He was saying the Mariners SHOULDN’T trade away Hernandez because of how suddenly a team can turn around. If Ackley continues to blossom and they make some smart trades, they could get into the Wild Card race soon enough.

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PWNdroia
3 years 6 months ago

I agree.  It’s foolish for the M’s to trad away King Felix.  He’s the on player you can build around to make a winner.  Trade him away and the M’s become a team instantly out of contention for likely years and years to come.

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MetsMagic
3 years 6 months ago

So that means they should never have good players? Felix is a generational talent, the type you build around, not trade for building blocks. 

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

If they’re not going to take advantage of the fact that they possess a generational talent, which, besides 2009 they haven’t showed they’re willing to do so, there’s really no reason to not cash him in for pieces, especially since they have what, 3-4 years to find the right deal?

I’m not saying it’s what they should do. The original post I replied to started out as: “Hernandez is not getting moved, why can’t people stop with the rumors?” to which I stated why the rumors “won’t go away.”

It makes complete sense for Felix Hernandez’s name to be mentioned in trade rumors. Whether he gets dealt or not, it’s always going to be speculated until he either gets moved or the Mariners put a winning team around him in the next year or two.

I don’t care if they trade him or not and nor am I advocating they do trade him. I’m just stating the reasons why people keep starting rumors that he’s going to be traded.

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3 years 6 months ago

My post said he won’t be moved for at least one year. So why even bother talking about it? That’s like saying “the Reds are thinking about moving John Smith, first overall pick in the 2014 draft.”

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

I know, I read your post. I responded to the part where you said “why can’t people stop with the rumors.”

Given the fact that the Angels and Rangers have made some serious additions this offseason to separate themselves, rumors about King Felix are to be expected, despite the fact that the team’s made it clear they’re not trading him.

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m4r1n3r
3 years 6 months ago

You have to take into account the fan base aspect. Getting rid of Hernandez would hurt the M’s ownership in the profit category. Therefore…until another face of the team shows up….he will remain a Mariner. The realistic fan in me agrees that since we now have the Yankees and the Red Sox on the west coast and we aren’t even close to being able to compete with them it might be wise to make a trade provided some other team is willing to give what he’s actually worth in a trade.

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rundmc1981
3 years 6 months ago

This site wouldn’t exist without those rumors.