Tigers Attempting Strong Push For Gio Gonzalez

The Tigers are trying to "make a strong push" to acquire Athletics lefty Gio Gonzalez, tweets Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle. However, the Tigers aren't sure whether they'll be able to make an offer as strong as a potential Yankees proposal, Slusser says (Twitter link).

It was reported today, by Bob Klapisch of the Bergen Record, that the Athletics asked the Yankees for Jesus Montero plus either Dellin Betances or Manny Banuelos in exchange for Gonzalez (Twitter link). With the Yankees highly unlikely to part with such a significant haul, the two teams may not be a match, since the Yanks don't have the high-upside young outfielders the Athletics covet.


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127 Comments on "Tigers Attempting Strong Push For Gio Gonzalez"


vonhayesdays
3 years 8 months ago

who do the tigers have to trade for Gio , gonna cost alot 

RationalSportsFan
3 years 8 months ago

How about something like Turner, Oliver or Smyly, and Brantly?  This is a worse offer than Montero + Betances or Banuelos, but if the Yanks aren’t willing to offer that, and the A’s are motivated to move, the above offer MIGHT get it done.

wrestlingcritic
3 years 8 months ago

The offers arent gonna be that high as time passes because he walks a TON. I wouldnt put Turned in a deal but just about anybody else (except Castellanos) should be in play

Leib Kozlov
3 years 8 months ago

Turner and Oliver plus others in a heartbeat.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

Unless you’re making a deal for a Longoria or a Cabrera or a Kershaw I don’t think you ever trade Jacob Turner “in a heartbeat”.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 8 months ago

DO WANT!!

3 years 8 months ago

Wow thats a bit surprising. Turner and Castellanos?

3 years 8 months ago

neither player will ever be included in a trade

3 years 8 months ago

Right both of them are untouchable. In the same league of Harper and Strasburg

3 years 8 months ago

i didnt say they are quite that strong but for tigers ownership it is there equivelent

3 years 8 months ago

Prospects are sometimes grossly overvalued. 

mistermonkey
3 years 8 months ago

Totally. See Andrew Miller. But Turner looks like the real deal — I’d rather have him than Gio.

Civilization
3 years 8 months ago

The vast majority of them are. Reading these comments on MLBTR are sometimes just a joy. It’s amazing how many prospects fans assume are untouchable and or the next big thing since sliced bread. 

I don’t fool myself into thinking if DD or Illitch finds something on the market they covet, they won’t go all in to get it.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

The Tigers FO and fan base needs to understand that nobody is untouchable when it comes front of the rotation guys. Especially ones that are young, cheap and under team control for a few more years like Gio. Otherwise I doubt the Tigers will get this done.

3 years 8 months ago

No, they are definitely not in the same league of Harper and Strasburg and if they don’t want to give them up for Gio, then its move along, Detroit.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

Then it’s move along Detroit.

Castellanos is literally the ONLY elite position player prospect they’ve had in the past 4 years.  They won’t deal him for a pitcher.

I don’t see Turner going anywhere either.  If we were talking about an elite position player I could see them being dealt.  But pitching just isn’t that big of a need for the Tigers.

On the other hand I could see ANY other combination of prospects being dealt in a deal for Gio, as well as Austin Jackson, Rick Porcello, or Max Scherzer.  Fans that overvalue their own prospects are no more ridiculous than fans that think a deal cannot be done unless a team trades away its very best prospects.

If this was a few months ago and the article was about the Tigers being interested in Doug Fister, I bet half of the responses would be saying Turner or Castellanos would have to be involved as well.

3 years 8 months ago

Austin Jackson, Rick Porcello, Al Alberquerqe, and another good hitting prospect? Sounds about right.

3 years 8 months ago

No Jackson.

3 years 8 months ago

No Jackson.

John Czech
3 years 8 months ago

Jesus, wanna just toss Boesch in there too? They are trying to trade for Geo Gonzalez not Roy Halladay. 

RationalSportsFan
3 years 8 months ago

They are also more likely to want minor leaguers (like Turner) than a bunch of major leaguers.  The Tigers also are more likely to want to GIVE UP minor leaguers as opposed to the major leaguers mentioned.

John Czech
3 years 8 months ago

I know, I am not stupid like Thomas Cassidy. Turner will be as good as gone, maybe even Andy Oliver, to go along with a hitter.

RationalSportsFan
3 years 8 months ago

Yea, I meant to reply to him, not you.  Sorry for the confusion.

RationalSportsFan
3 years 8 months ago

Yea, I meant to reply to him, not you.  Sorry for the confusion.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

“The Tigers also are more likely to want to GIVE UP minor leaguers as opposed to the major leaguers mentioned.”

Not true.

They could view Jackson as expendable if they get Cespedes.  Al Al may be a flash in the pan, no one knows. Porcello and Scherzer had somewhat of down years.  I could see a combination of them being dealt along with other prospects. (in particular I’m guessing Oakland would want their top catching prospect)

Turner and Castellanos, on the other hand, seem untouchable to the organization.  They were unwilling to trade them for Ubaldo Jimenez, and I’m guessing they’ll be unwilling to trade them for Gio as well.

wrestlingcritic
3 years 8 months ago

But when Cespedes becomes available is dtill anybodys guess

RationalSportsFan
3 years 8 months ago

They are also more likely to want minor leaguers (like Turner) than a bunch of major leaguers.  The Tigers also are more likely to want to GIVE UP minor leaguers as opposed to the major leaguers mentioned.

John Czech
3 years 8 months ago

Jesus, wanna just toss Boesch in there too? They are trying to trade for Geo Gonzalez not Roy Halladay. 

3 years 8 months ago

Unless the hitting prospect is Castellanos, that’s a terrible package. I’d rather Oakland just keep him.

FunkyTime
3 years 8 months ago

This is the type of package I could see the Tigers going for.  They’re not going to trade Turner and Castellanos. That’d wreck their whole farm system.

They’d only do that if it involved getting another franchise player (ala Miguel Cabrera).

wrestlingcritic
3 years 8 months ago

You grossly overevalue Gio Gonzalez

Dulaine Harris
3 years 8 months ago

Al Al is going nowhere!!  Boesch either!

renegadeisback
3 years 8 months ago

Gio Gonzalez in the AL East? Good luck with that Yankees.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 8 months ago

Gio out of the Coliseum will require a lot of luck.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 8 months ago

Gio out of the Coliseum will require a lot of luck.

Shawnthemon
3 years 8 months ago

AL Central*

Edit: Read the rest of the article, nvm lol

Shawnthemon
3 years 8 months ago

AL Central*

Edit: Read the rest of the article, nvm lol

Khabibulan
3 years 8 months ago

Why are the A’s so eager to deal Gio? I’ve seen him linked to quite a few rumors.

3 years 8 months ago

They blew things up and it didnt work so they are blowing it up again

muskyfish
3 years 8 months ago

The A’s are eager to deal Gio because they know they are toast this year. The pitching wasn’t able to sustain their horrible offense even before Brett got hurt and Trevor forgot where he left his nuts. By the second half of the upcoming year Cahill, Anderson, Ross, and Gray could be forming a new young nucleus for the future, but without offense it won’t mean a thing, and the A’s stink at developing bats. 

I think you have to get Turner and Castellanos. But would they be willing to set Turner aside in order to gut the remaining hitters in the Detroit system? Do Boesch/Delmon fit in somehow?

muskyfish
3 years 8 months ago

The A’s are eager to deal Gio because they know they are toast this year. The pitching wasn’t able to sustain their horrible offense even before Brett got hurt and Trevor forgot where he left his nuts. By the second half of the upcoming year Cahill, Anderson, Ross, and Gray could be forming a new young nucleus for the future, but without offense it won’t mean a thing, and the A’s stink at developing bats. 

I think you have to get Turner and Castellanos. But would they be willing to set Turner aside in order to gut the remaining hitters in the Detroit system? Do Boesch/Delmon fit in somehow?

3 years 8 months ago

and they want to get good young players who will peak when they get a new stadium opened in 5 years or so… by then, gio will require a new contract.

They don’t plan to spend like the marlins when their stadium gets done, they want to have an inexpensive young, all around good team.  so dealing a pitcher so they have some offense ready is the plan…. its a gamble for sure but what isn’t when it comes to the a’s

3 years 8 months ago

and they want to get good young players who will peak when they get a new stadium opened in 5 years or so… by then, gio will require a new contract.

They don’t plan to spend like the marlins when their stadium gets done, they want to have an inexpensive young, all around good team.  so dealing a pitcher so they have some offense ready is the plan…. its a gamble for sure but what isn’t when it comes to the a’s

mistermonkey
3 years 8 months ago

There’s no way the Tigers will trade both Turner and Castellanos to get a #2 starter. When they gave up Maybin and Miller (their top 2 prospects), they got Miguel Cabrera, a franchise player.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

And there’s no way the A’s give up a young, cheap front of the rotation guy for second tier prospects. Tigers would have to give up one of those two guys at least to get talks going.

3 years 8 months ago

How about the Tigers buy them a few pop machines instead?

TheGrtBambino
3 years 8 months ago

Gio is only a #2 starter on a select few teams and the tigers are one of those teams.  He is at least a #1.5 guy and would be the ace of many clubs out there.  just because the tigers have the god of pitchers in verlander does not make Gio a #2 guy in general but just the #2 on this team

mistermonkey
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t agree with that. He’d be the #3 or #4 on at least 5 teams (Phillies, Tampa Bay, Red Sox, Angels, Giants), and a #2 on the vast majority of others (maybe 6 or 7 teams would use him as the ace). He’s a very good pitcher, no doubt, but his home/away stats are pretty dramatic. But all I’m saying is that Dombrowski won’t be trading his two top prospects for a guy like Gio. Maybe one of them. But the Tigers aren’t as desparate as a lot of other teams so are probably just kicking the tires.

not_brooks
3 years 8 months ago

They aren’t eager to trade him.

That’s why they’re asking for the moon in return.

3 years 8 months ago

They’re not eager.  Just willing.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

If the NYY are interested and Hank & Hal push Cash along.. Forget about it Tigers fans…

Cashman and even the Steinbrenner’s know the NYY rotation 1-3 is not even close to up to snuff compared to the Rays and Red Sox, not to mention the Rays can go 6 deep..

This might be where the NYY make their play for a starter and don’t think the Tigers can get close to what the Yanks can prospect wise at the upper levels pitching wise which beane always covets.

Motor_City_Bombshell
3 years 8 months ago

Jacob Turner says hello.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

 understand the Tigers could offer up Turner (who actually saw back in 2010 pitch a couple of games here in Lakeland for the FSL Tigers)it’s just that think objectively and Turner has barely thrown at all for Toledo and the NYY can offer Montero (C/DH granted) on top of either Betances or Baneulos.

We have seen sooo many rumors shot down already these winter meetings.. It does make some sense.

Me?I think Turner has more upside than a future DH in montero but who knows with Billy beane.
The tigers might be asked to include more than Turner and the question is.. Where is the limit?

3 years 8 months ago

I’d say Billy lets Gio go for Turner and Castellanos, 2-for-1. Hopefully he can squeeze a little more but as an A’s fan, thats a good haul for 4 years of a young stud SP.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Turner is a stiff price in itself. Don’t be surprised if beane tries to ask for Jackson as well to begin with and both teams expand the deal towards the end.

3 years 8 months ago

I’d say Billy lets Gio go for Turner and Castellanos, 2-for-1. Hopefully he can squeeze a little more but as an A’s fan, thats a good haul for 4 years of a young stud SP.

Motor_City_Bombshell
3 years 8 months ago

Jacob Turner says hello.

Douglas Rau
3 years 8 months ago

What’s so wonderful about the Red Sox 1-3?  They’ve obviously let Boston down the past 2 seasons.  Who even ARE their 1-3 any more?  Lester, who pitched to a 5.40 ERA and 1.61 WHIP in September, Beckett, the Fried Chicken Man and who?

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Another Yankee fan who obviously fails to look at anything except with rose colored glasses towards the yankees?

Look a little deeper, or take those shades off for a bit….

Douglas Rau
3 years 8 months ago

What’s so wonderful about the Red Sox 1-3?  They’ve obviously let Boston down the past 2 seasons.  Who even ARE their 1-3 any more?  Lester, who pitched to a 5.40 ERA and 1.61 WHIP in September, Beckett, the Fried Chicken Man and who?

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

If the NYY are interested and Hank & Hal push Cash along.. Forget about it Tigers fans…

Cashman and even the Steinbrenner’s know the NYY rotation 1-3 is not even close to up to snuff compared to the Rays and Red Sox, not to mention the Rays can go 6 deep..

This might be where the NYY make their play for a starter and don’t think the Tigers can get close to what the Yanks can prospect wise at the upper levels pitching wise which beane always covets.

baycommuter
3 years 8 months ago

A’s fan here. Gio’s got a wonderful curve and a plus fastball. Either Gio’s going to improve his control, in which case he has the stuff to be a No. 1 or high No. 2 starter for a contender, or he isn’t, and he’ll be constantly at 105 pitches in the sixth inning wearing out your bullpen. I think at this point the A’s don’t know which.

baycommuter
3 years 8 months ago

A’s fan here. Gio’s got a wonderful curve and a plus fastball. Either Gio’s going to improve his control, in which case he has the stuff to be a No. 1 or high No. 2 starter for a contender, or he isn’t, and he’ll be constantly at 105 pitches in the sixth inning wearing out your bullpen. I think at this point the A’s don’t know which.

3 years 8 months ago

Good bye Boesch have fun ruining your career in 
Oakland….Makes sense right? Since the Tigers have been deemed the front runner for Cespedes

3 years 8 months ago

I, unfortunately, think you’re right. I’m a huge Boesch believer (and apologist) and would rather see Dirks make his way out, but I think it will require Boesch. But who knows just how low Billy Beane is willing to go either. He may take Dirks if we throw in another prospect like Strieby, just for example.

3 years 8 months ago

Strieby was outrighted off the 40 man, wow that low, huh?

inleylandwetrust
3 years 8 months ago

Strieby is garbage and Dirks is a 4th oufielder. C’mon man, they don’t want our junk.

3 years 8 months ago

Strieby was only an example and my way of referring to a player that is not a top prospect. Besides, Beane has taken less for more, Hudson trade anyone?

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

I, for one, would snap up a Strieby/Dirks for Gonzalez deal.

Then again, I’m a Tigers fan, not an As fan.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 8 months ago

Strieby is garbage and Dirks is a 4th oufielder. C’mon man, they don’t want our junk.

CaliforniaJag
3 years 8 months ago

Boesch makes no sense in this trade. Beane wants minor leaguers that can lead a rebuilding effort and not start getting expensive until the prospective new ballpark opens, not guys nearing arbitration already.

3 years 8 months ago

Boesch would absolutely make sense. He will bring in another package from a team that is looking for a corner OF with some power. If Atlanta was willing to at least think about parting ways with Prado for Young, a Boesch package could be even greater.

verlander
3 years 8 months ago

Boesch isn’t expensive yet.

3 years 8 months ago

I, unfortunately, think you’re right. I’m a huge Boesch believer (and apologist) and would rather see Dirks make his way out, but I think it will require Boesch. But who knows just how low Billy Beane is willing to go either. He may take Dirks if we throw in another prospect like Strieby, just for example.

TheBigNice
3 years 8 months ago

No way, Boesch is not going anywhere. Certainly not for more pitching.

TheBigNice
3 years 8 months ago

No way, Boesch is not going anywhere. Certainly not for more pitching.

3 years 8 months ago

Good bye Boesch have fun ruining your career in 
Oakland….Makes sense right? Since the Tigers have been deemed the front runner for Cespedes

theflopallin
3 years 8 months ago

The Tigers can want. The Yankees can want.

If KC pokes their nose in and tosses Myers with a mixture of our prospects in, it’s all over. Rather have Gio than face him often in a Tigers uni.

theflopallin
3 years 8 months ago

The Tigers can want. The Yankees can want.

If KC pokes their nose in and tosses Myers with a mixture of our prospects in, it’s all over. Rather have Gio than face him often in a Tigers uni.

3 years 8 months ago

Absolutely would be ecstatic if the Tigers can pull this off. It will cost quite a bit, but I think he may be worth it.

3 years 8 months ago

Absolutely would be ecstatic if the Tigers can pull this off. It will cost quite a bit, but I think he may be worth it.

3 years 8 months ago

if the tigers want him it will be for brendan boesch and pocello must likley so turner can be brought along to the bigs and the tigers could have a left handed arm.

it also remains to be seen if they can land the cuban of that makes boesch more expendable if tigers included pocello they would try to pan dirks off but i think as will require boesch

3 years 8 months ago

I’m sure it will require Boesch, although the A’s may take Dirks with him being cheaper for longer. Hard telling exactly what’s going through Billy Beane’s head.

Even if the Tigers have to give up Porcello, I don’t think Turner starts in the bigs. He still needs some time to develop in AAA before he gets a permanent stay in Detroit.

3 years 8 months ago

not disagreeing but they like turners power arm better then porcellos arm. They also had him spoy start last year and have said they are considering him the 5th starter as is if they cant sign a 1 year vet.

most likley try to make this trade and sign someone

this is all saying im right that they would deal porcelo which is a huge if

dirks has been linked  to the mets for third base

and i saw him linked to seas for figgins at one time

its looks like tigers are determined to TRADE this year

turner and Castellanos they have deamed untouchable

but they have been wiling to deal
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Daniel Fields, OF,

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inleylandwetrust
3 years 8 months ago

Dude any deal not headlined by Turner or Castellanos is a garbage package and won’t land you Gio. Dirks is a 4th oufielder, and would be a throw in in this kind of deal. No way would he be a headliner. Boesch is already 26 I believe, he is not the type of player the A’s are looking for. A package of Turner, Castellanos, and another prospect or 2 would be what we are looking at.

3 years 8 months ago

Agreed, sir.

3 years 8 months ago

So you’re telling me that Dirks and Boesch are not high upside younger OF’s? By the way, as the post says, is what the A’s covet. I see zero reasons why the Tigers cannot package one of those two with a player not named Turner or Castellanos to complete a trade.

John Czech
3 years 8 months ago

Tigers already traded Oliveros. He was apart of the Delmon Young trade.

J.j. Miller
3 years 8 months ago

They want prospects and pre arby players younger than the ones being traded away. Boesch maybe but no way he’s a centerpiece , forget porcello, he’s junk

mistermonkey
3 years 8 months ago

Porcello isn’t junk. He is, however, 22 years old.

jphenix2002
3 years 8 months ago

Anyone who saw Porcello’s stuff against the Rangers knows he isn’t junk. Less pick off attempts would be nice, but the kid can pitch.

Stuart Brown
3 years 8 months ago

Indeed. He just needs to put it together for a full season. He’s no fluke when he’s on.

3 years 8 months ago

if the tigers want him it will be for brendan boesch and pocello must likley so turner can be brought along to the bigs and the tigers could have a left handed arm.

it also remains to be seen if they can land the cuban of that makes boesch more expendable if tigers included pocello they would try to pan dirks off but i think as will require boesch

OaklandFan22
3 years 8 months ago

wow if the tigers got gio they would have the best staff