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Rockies, Red Sox Talked Marco Scutaro

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | January 20, 2012 at 6:00pm CDT

6:00pm: The deal isn't close at this time and isn't likely to happen at all, writes Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald.  Silverman adds that the talks could indicate that the Red Sox are looking for ways to clear some salary in order to sign a free agent starter like Roy Oswalt.

4:52pm: Talks are fizzling, Renck tweets. The Red Sox are reluctant to part with Scutaro, since they don't have a clear alternative at short.

4:25pm: The Rockies are nearing a deal for infielder Marco Scutaro, Troy Renck of the Denver Post tweets. The teams are talking and the Rockies are trying to complete the trade. The veteran infielder would presumably play second base if the Rockies acquire him.

Scutaro, 35, set career highs in batting average and slugging percentage for a .299/.358/.423 line in 445 plate appearances in 2011. He also had a career-best 8.1% strikeout rate and finished with more walks (38) than strikeouts (36). Only seven shortstops have contributed more wins above replacement than Scutaro (12.7) since 2008, according to FanGraphs’ version of the statistic. The Red Sox exercised their $6MM option for him after the season.

If the Red Sox move Scutaro, they'd have a hole at shortstop heading into Spring Training. With Jed Lowrie on the Astros, prospect Jose Iglesias and infielders Nick Punto and Mike Aviles would sit atop Boston's depth chart. 

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  1. Devern Hansack

    13 years ago

    What? Why would the Red Sox trade him?

    Reply
    • AlKelz

      13 years ago

      To free up payroll to sign Oswalt ?

      Reply
      • soxfanfromBC

        13 years ago

        exactly

        Reply
      • chris_synan1

        13 years ago

        hmm good point

        Reply
  2. Joseph Jonathan Herrera

    13 years ago

    Maybe the Red Sox have a larger deal in mind for a big-name shortstop

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      Like who? Edgar Renteria?

      Reply
      • Joseph Jonathan Herrera

        13 years ago

        That definitely sounds plausible lol  I just hope it’s not a salary dump to get under the luxury tax.  But I have a hard time believing that

        Reply
        • Thomas Cassidy

          13 years ago

          Iglesias, I guess.

          Reply
          • rjs

            13 years ago

            No chance, he’s not ready.

            Reply
            • mainesox

              13 years ago

               Offensively maybe, but his offense isn’t supposed to be very good even when it is ‘ready’ so just throw him out there and let him play, they’ll still have plenty of offense.

              Reply
      • Rangersfan32 2

        13 years ago

        Scutaro is just a piece in a Tulowitzki trade obviously!

        Reply
        • Nick 29

          13 years ago

          Nah, I think Tulo is a piece in a Scutaro trade obviously!

          Reply
  3. redsx968

    13 years ago

    Noooooooo

    Reply
  4. start_wearing_purple

    13 years ago

    What? They can’t possibly be planning on Iglesias or Punto playing short all season. Though this could be what frees up money for Oswalt…

    Reply
    • chris_synan1

      13 years ago

      Mike Aviles

      Reply
    • Cory J. Settoon

      13 years ago

      Aviles for offense, Punto for defense. 🙂

      They will be hitting 7, 8, or 9. He can handle the drop off, but we do need to guarantee we get another pitcher to sign.

      Reply
  5. Nik T.

    13 years ago

    Mike Aviles is the Sox SS

    Reply
    • sourbob

      13 years ago

      Once more, with FEELING.

      Reply
  6. NomarGarciaparra

    13 years ago

    I don’t understand this move. If they’re doing this to get Oswalt, ok, they gain in the pitching department. But then who’s playing short? Iglesias is definitely not really offensively…in the majors, he will probably struggle to stay above the Mendoza line.

    Reply
  7. bleedrockiepurple

    13 years ago

    Get it done O’Dowd, finally get someone who could play everyday at 2B. As long as not giving up too much of course…

    Reply
  8. dudemanbro

    13 years ago

    fill one hole by creating another

    Reply
    • redsx968

      13 years ago

      There’s some innuendo there somewhere…

      Reply
  9. notsureifsrs

    13 years ago

    could be great, could be really dumb. fun

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      Agreed, but (at least in my opinion) it’s what would have immediately followed this trade, rather than who they got in return, that would have made it great or dumb.

      Reply
  10. UltimateYankeeFan

    13 years ago

    That sounds like something the Red Sox would do.  Trade their starting SS and his $6MM salary.  So they could free up the money to sign Oswalt at about $8MM.

    Don’t look now but that’s $2MM more than Scutaro and unless they have someone they or are getting someone from the Rockies to replace Scutaro.  This is somewhat confusing.

    Reply
    • Ryan Klinkert

      13 years ago

      Whether he’s considered polished enough or not, they do have Iglesias.

      Reply
      • NomarGarciaparra

        13 years ago

        He’s NOT.

        .235/.285/.269

        ^does that look polished enough for you? Those numbers would be disappointing even if he achieved those in the majors…but that was triple A! He’s not ready.

        Reply
        • Jon Melton

          13 years ago

          Yeah that .559 ops  is not so good

          Reply
  11. chris_synan1

    13 years ago

    hmmm…interesting, maybe this is to free up space for Oswalt….I think Aviles is gonna be the starting shortstop he is gonna be great with a full time job and produce, maybe Nick Punto might split time with him….well all i care about is signing oswalt

    Reply
  12. Ben H. 2

    13 years ago

    I think this is leading to bigger things… boggarts is going to be better than Iggy. I smell a big trade coming. Just my two cents. Let the comments flow..

    Reply
    • redsx968

      13 years ago

      Who says the comments are gonna flow…

      Reply
  13. Johnny S.

    13 years ago

    Sox going to get Nakajima or something

    Reply
    • Jeffrey De Los Reyes

      13 years ago

      Yankees didn’t sign him.. He’s back in Japan now.

      Reply
      • Johnny S.

        13 years ago

        So I had time to think, are Sox going to get Troy Tulowitzski?

        Reply
        • neilg

          13 years ago

          Bartender, he’ll have another…;)

          Reply
        • thekoshow

          13 years ago

          I’m curious as to who this Troy Tulowitzski fellow is. The Rockies have someone by the name of Troy Tulowitzki. Odd how their names are so similar.

          Reply
  14. bleedrockiepurple

    13 years ago

    Renck now saying talks are fizzling between Rox/Sox. “reluctant” to happen.

    Reply
    • brian mcgahan

      13 years ago

      This is why I hate twitter.

      Reply
      • bleedrockiepurple

        13 years ago

        My apologies…was just passing the news along, thought Sox fans would want to know.

        Reply
      • redsx968

        13 years ago

        This is why I love twitter. Thank god for false information

        Reply
    • neilg

      13 years ago

      Probably Renck spinning it more than anything…

      Reply
      • bleedrockiepurple

        13 years ago

        All he wants is his name on it if a deal was to get done. He always seems a bit desperate to me.

        Reply
        • neilg

          13 years ago

          Agreed…which is why I rarely pay attention to anything he says in the Post…not a fan…

          Reply
          • bleedrockiepurple

            13 years ago

            Definitely don’t pay attention to his articles for the Post. But follow on twitter only because hes the only one who actually keeps fans updated. None the less, getting tired of his antics honestly.

            Reply
  15. brian mcgahan

    13 years ago

    The state of Colorado straight up for Daniel Nava.

    Reply
    • rickjimbo

      13 years ago

      Your trade proposal = hero status

      Reply
  16. Joseph Jonathan Herrera

    13 years ago

    Is this Renck guy a serious reporter?  How does he go from “close” to “fizzle” in less than 30 minutes?  We all knew the Sox had no alternative to Scutaro at SS, he should do his homework in the future before going all Twitter tabloid with his reporting.

    Reply
    • bleedrockiepurple

      13 years ago

      He has these type of moments. Happened last yr with Michael Young rumors.

      Reply
    • neilg

      13 years ago

      I’m sure he wants to be taken seriously…whether or not he is taken seriously is debatable…

      Reply
  17. Vinnie White

    13 years ago

    Why don’t the Rox give the Sox Herrera and a B prospect for Scutaro and cash.  Hererra can man SS for the sox.

    Reply
  18. Tko11

    13 years ago

    So Scutaro would play 2B I guess since they signed Blake at third. No idea who the Sox would put at Short…hopefully not punto.

    Reply
  19. Patrick Casey

    13 years ago

    I’m amazed no one has mentioned the possibility of Hanley Ramirez. Although unlikely, don’t go all postal on me I said the POSSIBILITY.

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

       Only there is no real possibility.

      Reply
  20. Jim McGrath

    13 years ago

    Big deal: Sox get Castro, Garza and take Soriano for Soriano’s full salary off Theo’s hands in return the Cubs get Ranaudo, Buch, Iggy and Youk to play 1 b.

    They then move Scutaro and Miller or Doubrount to the Rockies for pitcher Jhoulys Chacin.

    New rotation: Garza, Lester, Beckett, Chacin, Cook, Padilla.

    I still think Beckett will be moved before the season starts.

    What do I know–fun to speculate.

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      I’m going to play it safe and say that none of that is ever even discussed.

      EDIT: Also, Garza wouldn’t be the #1 pitcher and they wouldn’t have a 6 man rotation. Although, if they were to do this who knows what other ridiculous things they might do.

      Reply
    • slider32

      13 years ago

      If I’m Cherrington I’m not trading with Theo, your going to lose that deal.

      Reply
  21. Jim McGrath

    13 years ago

    If there’s some smoke there may be a fire that’s starting slowly. What does anyone know about Colorado’s Jhoulys Chacin? Is he a good prospect–his numbers look excellent for a young guy. Any way adding some people to go with Scu that he might be available to the Sox?

    Reply
    • Vinnie White

      13 years ago

      Chacin would be our one.  We would NEVER trade him to you guys for Scutero!  Are you crazy!!!!

      Reply
      • lefty177

        13 years ago

        chill, he was just asking a question

        Reply
  22. tomymogo

    13 years ago

    Okay considering the reluctance Boston has shown of not going over the luxury task, and the fact that they have depleted their farm system by trading for Adrian Gonzalez, Mark Melancon, Andrew Bailey, signing type A FA’s like Lackey, and Crawford etc. trading for a young affordable starter without giving major league talent is I would say, out of the question.

    Now I know they could easily pass over the luxury tax, it’s just money and they are one of the richest teams in baseball. However, we need to understand their owners want to make more money and the repercussions of going over the luxury tax affect their ability to make money.

    Considering the need for a starting pitcher ala Roy Oswalt, and their powerful lineup, maybe they could deal a piece of their mlb team to get a capable starting pitcher. 

    This may be a hard sell but will this be a good move for both sides, trading Kevin Youkilis for Martin Prado and Jair Jurrjens? Prado would replace Youkilis at 3B and provide adequate offense, not Kevin Youkilis type offense, but decent, and Jair Jurrjens would improve their rotation, giving them a quality affordable starter. Kevin Youkilis will need to play LF and 3B when Chipper needs to rest, and he would provide ATL exactly what they need, a quality OBP guy with pop from the right side. Youk has played 20 career games at LF, and while it’s not ideal, Martin Prado isn’t exactly the greatest LF either. Youk’s 12 million salary would go to ATL, and BOS would receive 2 players making a combined 10.2 million. 

    Reply
    • Leonard Washington

      13 years ago

      I disagree the farm is depleted. Considering we have a top 10 catching prospect, a top ten 3rd base prospect, and a top 10 SS prospect. Plus a lot of quality guys in low minors and a few in the middle to upper minors. 

      Reply
      • tomymogo

        13 years ago

        You can’t deal what little they have. They don’t have good young pitching prospects, and their top 10 catching prospect, top ten 3rd base prospect, and top 10 SS prospect are their next wave of talent. Most of the guys that have talent are in the lower levels, and teams looking to deal a quality starter want bigger major league ready pieces. And apart from Iglesias and their top 10 catching prospect they don’t have much to offer

        Reply
        • J T

          13 years ago

          If you include Iglesias as someone the Sox have to offer up in a good way then the farm is worse off than I thought.  Maybe with years of batting practice he’ll hit as well as Rey Ordonez without the power.  Useless.

          Reply
        • Leonard Washington

          13 years ago

          Not arguing that we got lots of high minors talent we got some but not a ton, but as I said alot of our best arms ect are in the lower parts of the system. So while I agree its not ideal for packaging for players, it is certainly not depleted and if anything is deep and balanced.

          Reply
        • User 4245925809

          13 years ago

          “You can’t deal what little they have.”

          Have you thought the main pieces they used to acquire Andrew Bailey, one of the better closers in the game was Alcanta and Miles head? 2 people never played above A ball before, not reddick..

          The Sox lower levels are full of people better than those 2.. head was barely top 20 in the system and Alcantra was lower..

          Reply
          • tomymogo

            13 years ago

            But Reddick was the big one

            Reply
  23. BoSoXaddict

    13 years ago

    Honestly, if it really came down to it..would starting Iglesias be the end of the world if it meant getting Oswalt? He was never really supposed to be a good hitter, people were just hoping that it would happen. I know that, ideally, he needs at least another year to develop in the minors..but if it’s between that and having Carlos Silva or Aaron Cook be the #5 I’ll take Iglesias starting at short.

    Reply
  24. slider32

    13 years ago

    This is the AL East your talking about, every move is big when your talking about starters. The Sox have too many ?s They are weak at C, SS, and RF, and have a third basemen who is a 1bmen. Their 4 and 5 pitchers are not better than last year on paper, and they down graded their relief on paper from last year. Add to that Crawford has a wrist problem.

    Reply
  25. RedSoxDynasty

    13 years ago

    Sox aren’t gonna make any more moves until Ortiz’s arb case is settled. The 4 million gap alone could determine if the sox need to free up any salary to get an Oswalt. I’m sure Cherington has relayed this to FA agents out there so let’s wait and see cuz Papi hopefully loses his case and Sox have 8-10 mil to sign Oswalt without making any other moves. This team with Oswalt has as good a chance as any( I’m presuming last years bs won’t happen again) to win!

    Reply

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