Yankees Notes: Burnett, DH Options, Trades

A few items out of the Bronx…

  • In a conference call with reporters (including Chad Jennings of the LoHud Yankees blog) today, GM Brian Cashman said he will look to fill the Yankees' DH spot through a trade, with free agent designated hitters being a "secondary" focus.  Cashman said it's "a possibility" he will try to acquire a hitter using the Yankees' excess pitchers.
  • The Yankees hope to address their DH need by trying to deal A.J. Burnett for salary relief or a "DH type," tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  If that isn't possible, Sherman says the next target would be to deal for a young, controllable hitter in exchange for a young starter like Phil Hughes.
  • Joe Pawlikowski of the River Aves Blues blog looks at the pros and cons of trading Burnett, eventually concluding that New York should probably keep him given the difficulties in finding value in a deal.
  • Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com hears the Burnett trade market is non-existent, even to the point of using a "pie in the sky" hashtag to describe the Yankees' chances of moving the veteran right-hander.
  • The Yankees are "in no rush" to address their DH need quickly, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  "Teams in need can almost name their price," Rosenthal writes, given how many free agent DH types (Raul Ibanez, Hideki Matsui, Vladimir Guerrero, Johnny Damon, etc.) remain on the market.


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121 Comments on "Yankees Notes: Burnett, DH Options, Trades"


RKMartin
3 years 7 months ago

How about AJ to the Cubs for Soriano?

3 years 7 months ago

AJ is better(hard to be a worse player than AJ), cheaper and under contract for less years. No thanks

BillB325
3 years 7 months ago

If the Cubs threw in cash to match up the salaries for the first couple of years then it actually wouldn’t look to bad.

3 years 7 months ago

I think Soriano would have a higher fWAR as a Yankee than Burnett would have as a Cub — since any day with the wind blowing out at Wrigly would result in a pretty ugly fWAR for Burnett.

Too Many Idiots
3 years 7 months ago

Wouldn’t that same wind help Soriano hit HRs? Ha!

3 years 7 months ago

How bout Hafner for Burnett?

3 years 7 months ago

Nobody wants AJ Burnett. Not even the Nippon Ham Fighters

SierraM363
3 years 7 months ago

I think their robotic pitching machine has better stats than AJ.

SierraM363
3 years 7 months ago

I think their robotic pitching machine has better stats than AJ.

tim2nyy
3 years 7 months ago

AJ for Bay

alphakira
3 years 7 months ago

As a Met fan, no.

3 years 7 months ago

as a yankee fan hell no

East Coast Bias
3 years 7 months ago

That’s what I was thinking. I think it makes sense for both sides. AJ will benefit from a pitcher’s park, and Bay from a hitter friendly one. The salaries are pretty much exact. 

Yanksfan2010
3 years 7 months ago

I saw AJ to the Cubs for there batboy. Or AJ to the Rangers for a new baseball bat.

BeisbolJunkie
3 years 7 months ago

I hate the Yankees

jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

Aj for either rios or Dunn make the contracts match evenly

SierraM363
3 years 7 months ago

Maybe when Hughes can prove he isn’t injury prone he could be worth more …

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

It all fairness Hughes hasn’t really been injury prone. Last season he was just flat out — out of shape. It’s like the guy loaded up on jelly beans the winter before. In all seriousness, I think Hughes fully matured. It’s not unusual for a 24 year old male to drastically change in body type, when not working out. That’s been resolved this winter. Apparently he’s been on a torrid work-out regimen. I’m actually pretty high on Hughes. I think he’s going to surprise a few people for a few years, maybe more. He has the make-up and tools. I’d rather the Yanks keep him and move Burnett, if possible. 

3 years 7 months ago

yeha hard to say hughes is been injury prone when last year was the first time he spent significant time on the DL. and it wasnt because he was really hurt, as it was out of shape. he looked like he gained 20 lbs before spring training

Abie Hammer
3 years 7 months ago

AJ for Bay (eat a few mil), AJ for Soriano, AJ for Hafner, AJ for cash considerations, AJ for ANYTHING

3 years 7 months ago

AJ for Bay seems like a good one. Also AJ for Hafner

alphakira
3 years 7 months ago

Good for whom? The Mets don’t need another Mike Pelfrey. With the walls in this gives Bay a chance, albeit a small one, to bring his career back. I’ll take a guy that had 36 homeruns and 119 RBIs a couple seasons back over a guy that hasn’t been good since 2005.

strikethree
3 years 7 months ago

A couple of years back in Boston — not in Citi Field.

AJ’s last respectable year was in 2009: when he posted 3.5 WAR (in 2008 he posted 5.5 WAR). Jason Bay posted 4.9 WAR and 3.1 WAR respectively. 

There is actually greater risks with Bay because of his questionable health. He wouldn’t need to play the field as much if he is traded to the Yankees.  He’s hit 6 and 12 HR’s since that monster year so who knows if and when he will ever fully recover. Look at his HR logs, he’s hitting half of his HR’s in Citi so he’s not hitting them on the road either.

I think both players could use a change in scenery and stadiums. Burnett could definitely take advantage of Citi field and with the pitcher batting 9th. Bay could use the lineup advantage and hitter’s ballpark.

They’re going to make about the same as well. I think you are grossly overestimating Bay’s chances of recovery. Hitting in that lineup and in that stadium is bad enough for a HR hitter but they are also putting pressure on his health issues by making him play the field. Concussion issues are notorious for being finicky and long lasting. 

SID PORTER
3 years 7 months ago

I’d rather put AJ on ebay than trade him for any of those “dead bodies”.

3 years 7 months ago

bay would pop out to left every time….

NYYANKEES
3 years 7 months ago

I rather trade Hughes for a young bat

3 years 7 months ago

not me id like to see hughes get another chance he was solid 2 years ago.. if he can become somepart of that guy we saw the p staff coulkd be young and good!

DK8
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think Hughes would net anything great in return without showing that last year was the outlier first. Doesn’t Hughes have 4+ years of service time?

DK8
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, Hughes has over 4 yrs of service time, so you get 2 years of team control.  Given where his FB velocity was last year, he’s probably got less value than Jair Jurrjjens.  And Jurrjjens hasn’t been generating much trade interest for the Braves.

3 years 7 months ago

I would love for the Royals to do something, but we all know that aint gonna happen

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

I was actually thinking something similar. Billy Butler for AJ Burnett and Delin Betances straight up. You get a +50 pitching prospect and frankly, a healthy pitcher who’s not too old, not too young, for 2 years who still has great stuff. Just very overpaid, hence the Betances inclusion. 

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

I wouldn’t mind that, but I don’t think the Yankees wouldn’t want to trade Betances.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Probably right, but considering the cost savings for them, it’s worth a thought to make a deal happen. I don’t see how anything else could happen, unless Cashman can get very creative with Houston for Carlos Lee. 

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

I would like Carlos Lee. Maybe a season with a team that has a chance to go to the playoffs could give him some energy. And if AJ goes to Houston he dosn’t have a lot of pressure on him. Maybe he even pitches well enough there to get traded for prospects or something. Crazy things have happened before.

3 years 7 months ago

AJ Burnett and betances for Wandy Rodriguez and Carlos Lee. Wandy is what 25 26 years old? a lefty, and Hughes is better suited out of the pen anyway. Wandy is undercontract for two or three more years. basically it would be like trading contract for contract and then betances for Lee and basically make it look attractive.

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

I don’t think this trade happens. With this trade the Yankees would be taking on a lot of money and as reported they only want to spend 1-2MM tops on a DH. Even though they would get that with Carlos Lee, I don’t think Wandy is nessecary since the Yankees already have Hughes, Garcia and young guys like Warren, Phelps, Mitchell and Kontos for cheaper price. Also, the Yankees are also high on Betances so it would have to take someone more worth while to get than Lee/Wandy. I would like Wandy but the Yankees want to get younger and cheaper to try to get to 189M for 2014.

Too Many Idiots
3 years 7 months ago

Yes on Lee, no on Wandy. AL East will turn Wandy into a left handed AJ.

Too Many Idiots
3 years 7 months ago

Wandy is 33.

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

Eh, I think that’s underestimating Butler’s value. He’s still a 25 year old power hitter.

Stuart Brown
3 years 7 months ago

I think that’s what a lot of people forget about him. It’s possible that those doubles won’t translate into more HR, but he’s still just 25. 

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

He’s redundant on that team. $24mm over 3 years isn’t fantastic for a DH only player. He’s worth it, but probably not ideal for many teams, so the Yanks are a good match. He probably won’t even be around by the time they compete. Two pitchers probably get them there quicker. 

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

He may be redundant but the Royals are not going to give away Butler. Especially not if Burnett is a major piece. Burnett is a 35 and paid like a front line pitcher. It seems like a lot to take on and give up if you’re banking on Betances to be a star.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Right. Giving away. That’s what I meant. 

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

We were finally having a civil conversation… no need to get snippy.

lefty177
3 years 7 months ago

I would think even if the Royals were shopping Billy Butler (which they definitely aren’t) that they would sell high because he’s a doubles hitter & once he gains the strength to carry those doubles into a few more home runs, he’s gonna look good in the same lineup as Hosmer, Moustakas, & Myers

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Keep in mind he only has three years under contract. This isn’t a lifetime marriage happening. Plus the Royals were most definitely shopping Butler, quietly, at various times. There was even a time here a year or two ago where it was rumored. I actually read an article recently in one of the KC newspapers online where the local sports writer made a good case to trade him.

jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

He isn’t a power hitter he is a doubles hitter

Vmmercan
3 years 7 months ago

Yankees aren’t giving up a top prospect for someone filling a DH role with little power, sorry.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

Funny, but didn’t that essentially just happen with the Mariners? Little power? He’s good for 18-26 homers, so I fail to see the issue. Not saying I prefer this move, but it’s something that’s certainly possible. 

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

the problem for the yankees would be that he fills the DH position for 3-4 years. they’ll need it freed up much sooner than that

3 years 7 months ago

actually no, its not the same thing that happened. th eyankees traded Montero to fill a bigger need. trading for a DH is not that big of a need. especially since they have andrew jones to fill that spot if worst got to worst.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

where did the 26 hrs come from?

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Can I please come to your location and punch you in the nose? I will go all “grassy knoll outside of the stadium” if Cashman used Bets to get a DH bat, which isn’t as major of a priority as young pitching is.

Guest
3 years 7 months ago

I know, I know. BUT IF YOU COULD, get $33mm of the books and free up a valuable roster spot, that’s worth something no? Unfortunately we can’t just blink and have that happen. To entice a team to think about it and beyond sending money, you use something that costs you nothing and has a lot of potential. It was just a thought and definitely not an unrealistic one. I wouldn’t like it, but just looking at it from a $$ point of view only.  

East Coast Bias
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah, but we aren’t the Royals. $$ is our strong point. Freeing up ~10m is not worth giving up Betances for. 

I’m with YFS78, a punch in the nose is due! 

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

It’s not worth giving up a POTENTIAL…front of rotation arm. Not for anyone, including the Yanks.

BillB325
3 years 7 months ago

Who do you have in mind for a young bat? If you guys want I’m sure Hughes for Lahair would be a fine deal.(a little sarcasm by the way) 

J. C. Hahne
3 years 7 months ago

a young bat? how about Vernon Wells… He hit like a rookie last year.

BillB325
3 years 7 months ago

To me that actually makes the most sense considering his best years came in the AL East IMO. Scratch that he had his best years in Pittsburg.

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

So, the Yanks trade for a pitcher, now they’re trying to deal one away? This makes complete sense.

3 years 7 months ago

when u get pineda then u trade way burnett seems like a win to me…even tho i feel like burnett can still deal at times

John Pinto
3 years 7 months ago

So I guess BB isn’t your game.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Ummmm Yankees trade for Pineda (young upside cheap pitcher) + sign Kuroda = 7 pitchers under contract, 3 mlb ready back end prospects in AAA and 2 near mlb ready prospects at AAA in Bans and Bets. Considering how AJ makes more in 1 year than Nova, Pineda, Kuroda and Hughes combined and hasn’t performed better than most of them then I’m not sure how you’re lost? 

Jake White
3 years 7 months ago

Hey Cashman, you *had* a young, controllable hitter as a DH a few days ago…

notsureifsrs
3 years 7 months ago

and a weak rotation. DH is a much easier problem to solve

3 years 7 months ago

that i agree with. although montero was a perfect DH fit for the yankees, pitching was much more needed. the yankees can easily sign someone like ibanez or vlad. trade AJ to the indians eat some of his contract and get shin soo choo. hes a lefty with some power. good DH.

J. C. Hahne
3 years 7 months ago

why would the Indians want to unload Choo, and why would they want Burnett?

jwsox
3 years 7 months ago

He actually was not a perfect dh fit. They don’t need any more power what they need a guy who can play multiple positions and get on base and have some speed. I truly think someone like figgens could be a good fit he has sleeve and could bounce back can play 3rd, ss,2nd and the outfield gives arod, jeter, Curtis, cano, and Gardner days off

Too Many Idiots
3 years 7 months ago

No thanks.  Figgins is washed up with a sub .300 OBP

3 years 7 months ago

yeah but he stinks

3 years 7 months ago

if the yanks get choo for aj every one in cleveland should be fired

Yankees420
3 years 7 months ago

Why would the Indians give us arguably their best hitter for A.J. Burnett? 

Vmmercan
3 years 7 months ago

And now he *has* a controllable front-end starter for a few years. Guess which one is easier to replace?

Jake White
3 years 7 months ago

I’m still betting on Montero to be a better big leaguer, but we’ll see.  Major league ready pitching isn’t exactly a weakness of the current Yankee farm system.

Vmmercan
3 years 7 months ago

He very well might be, but a player without a position who offers more of what they already have, compared to a cost-controlled pitcher is a no-brainer. If the Yankees’ have a surplus of front-line starting pitching, they can use it to fill any hole they have. You can’t say the same for Montero.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Yeah but Pineda is a step above “mlb ready”. Just imagine a possible 2013 staff of..

..CC-Pineda-Nova-Hughes/Bets/Bans/Warren/Phelps/Mitchell

That’s a veteran lead staff followed by a bunch of 26 and under pitchers. They could easily have one of the youngest staffs in the AL but Nova, Pineda and Hughes would have some seasoning already. Great!

3 years 7 months ago

AJ for David Ortiz. 

Mike1L
3 years 7 months ago

The Yankees don’t want to pick up a contract that goes beyond 2013.  2014 they have a legitimate chance to get below the luxury tax threshold-AJ, Soriano, and Jeter come off.  Assuming Jeter still wants to play, he’s probably going to be less than the current 17 million he makes.  And Mariano, assuming he doesn’t decide to have his robotics replaced, will probably be retired as well.  That’s $60 million right there.

Too Many Idiots
3 years 7 months ago

Jeter has an $8M option for 2014 with a $3M buyout.

Mike1L
3 years 7 months ago

Good point.  You wonder whether Jeter would pick up the option for that year at half pay.  He’s pretty much accomplished what he wanted individually, and he’s coming to a point where his qualitative numbers are being impaired.  I think he will take the $3 Million, a Derek Jeter Day, and a place in Monument Park. 

MNTwins12
3 years 7 months ago

I would like to see the Twins somehow trade for Phil Hughes.

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

for who?

John Pinto
3 years 7 months ago

What would the Twins give in the the trade for Hughes.  It has to be what the Yankees need.  So tell me.

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

i can’t see Moureau because I don’t see the Yankees taking an injury prone guy, unless the Twins pay most of his salary. I was thinking about an outfielder in return. Maybe someone like Joe Benson, but even that doesn’t satisfy me.

Caballo14
3 years 7 months ago

I would like to see Morneau, but not for Hughes. If you let Morneau DH from now on, and let him play the field maybe to give the Tex a day off, then I don’t see why not. Also they can sign a Russell Branyan type to a minor league deal just in case he goes on the DL. I wonder if the Twins even want to trade him, and what would the price be?

Liam Gallagher
3 years 7 months ago

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Morneau in the Yankee lineup. When healthy he can be a great hitter with power. I just don’t think the Yankees should go crazy on getting a DH. I would like to see either Matsui or Damon back on one year deals. I would rather get a one year solution rather than getting a guy like Morneau or Butler with multiple years of control because in the future we’ll need that DH spot for A-Rod/Jeter. The Yankees got 6 more years of A-Rod and it’ll make more sense to put him at DH full time after this season.

MNTwins12
3 years 7 months ago

Did you not notice the “somehow” part? I’m sure Terry Ryan and Brian Cashman could figure something out. I’m not saying this is likely, however, by any means. The Twins farm system really isn’t as bad as some people think. Miguel Sano is rated second best 3B prospect in MLB. He is projected to have significant power, though I would be hesitant to send him packing for only Phil Hughes.

Chris Roy
3 years 7 months ago

Yound controllable hitter sounds a lot like Kendry’s Morales to me :) Hughes and Laird for Morales.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 7 months ago

Angels don’t really need more pitching do they?

I think the Yanks would go after a young position player that could move into a spot soon. If the Mets resign Wright then maybe Murphy becomes available?

3 years 7 months ago

How about AJ ($33 million – 2 years) for Carlos Lee ($18.5 million – 1 year) and the Yankees put in $7 million. The Astros will have to pay AJ $7.5 for 2 years. Reasonable?