Latest On Jorge Soler

7:57pm: The Yankees and Phillies are in hardest on Soler now, Yahoo's Jeff Passan tweets.

5:21pm: Marlins president David Samson said on 790 the Ticket that the club doesn't have interest in Soler, MLB.com's Joe Frisaro tweets.

2:51pm: The Marlins are interested, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Rosenthal hears Soler's power is comparable to that of Miami outfielder Mike Stanton — high praise to say the least.

12:59pm: The Blue Jays watched Soler and others Wednesday at the team's complex in the Dominican Republic, writes MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez.  The Orioles will be in the D.R. to watch him Sunday.  Sanchez lists the Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Phillies, and Cubs as other interested parties.

WEDNESDAY, 8:26am: The Phillies are also interested in Soler, reports Olney.

TUESDAY, 2:18pm: The Yankees have serious interest in Soler, ESPN.com's Buster Olney tweets.

12:33pm: Many teams remain involved in the bidding for 19-year-old Cuban prospect Jorge Soler, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter). The Cubs have been extensively linked to the outfielder, but they’re not the only club involved. 

The Yankees are in on the bidding, tweets David Kaplan of CSN Chicago, and Heyman suggests the Marlins could be involved. Bruce Miles of the Daily Herald hears that “a good number” of teams have interest (Twitter link). Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus explained yesterday that Soler would rank 38th or 39th on his list of top prospects.


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158 Comments on "Latest On Jorge Soler"


dskirsa
3 years 6 months ago

Sorry Cubs fans, but it is not a forgone conclusion that you’ll get Soler….

BlueCatuli
3 years 6 months ago

Thanks for clarifying that for us.

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

Heyman is the only source not reporting it all but a done deal for the Cubs.  It’s obviously not a guarantee because he can’t legally sign yet.  It will happen though.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 6 months ago

Yes, just like the Marlins were a lock to sign Cespides.

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

No one said a deal with the Marlins was agreed to – you all just jumped to that conclusion as they were labeled the front runners.  Not the same situation at all.

3 years 6 months ago

Soler isn’t a free agent.  Assuming he’s signed is ridiculous.  Should I assume that Appel is already signed with the Astros?  

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

Please point out where I said he was already signed.  I’ll wait.

Assuming a deal is in place (which is what I did, and what is likely the case according to multiple DR sources and Goldstein), is not, in fact, ridiculous.

3 years 6 months ago

Read Buster Olney’s latest tweet please.

And the difference between “assuming a deal is in place” and “assuming he’s signed” is really just semantics. We all realize that he can’t officially sign, but agreeing to a deal is effectively the same as signing since that’s as close as he can get right now.

jwsox
3 years 6 months ago

There is a big difference between he is signed ( HE CANNOT SIGN YET) and a deal is in place. A deal in place means there is an offer sheet there for him to sign if e wants. Where as him being signed means… You guessed it he is signed. No one from the cubs has come
Out to say anything about him
Even being close
To
Signed. Nothing even leaked. It’s only the tribune saying there is a deal
In place

3 years 6 months ago

You’re making the literal argument.  Which is exactly why i said that the argument was based on semantics.

When fans say “a deal is in place” they more often than not mean he’s signed.  It’s just waiting to have the t’s crossed and i’s dotted.

I was simply restating his point using different language.  Sorry it got you so worked up.

(ps – he can’t even negotiate, so regardless of language, my point stands).

kingoriole
3 years 6 months ago

No. You are wrong. A deal in place means that they have agreed, but not yet signed. Sometimes they fall through but it’s rare.

If there is an offer to sign it’s usually worded as “they have made him an offer,” and rarely does that mean anything beyond that.

The Orioles “made an offer” to Teixera. But it was laughable and there was no realistic chance of him signing.

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

Also, Soler’s agent has a history of agreeing to deals prior to an IFA being legally allowed to sign, so this is SOP.

3 years 6 months ago

“Sources: Yankees have serious interest on OFer Jorge Soler, among many teams. Cubs are not close to signing Soler, as has been reported.”- Buster Olney

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

I’m sure the Yankees do have interest.  Doesn’t mean a deal isn’t in place.  There are other sources saying there are – I choose to not believe the ex-Yankee writer who thinks someone from the NE is on every single signing.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 6 months ago

Until his signature is on the paper, there is no deal.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 6 months ago

Until his signature is on the paper, there is no deal.

3 years 6 months ago

This is a joke, right?

Buster Olney is one of the most well connected sportswriters in the business.  We’re not talking about Peter Gammons here.

Love the resolve to refuse to believe the obvious though.  Nice commitment.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

How is Soler NOT a free agent? Am I missing something here? The “bidding” mentioned is nothing like that of Darvish. Couldn’t he sign with anyone he wants?

3 years 6 months ago

He hasn’t been approved as a free agent by MLB (nor has he been given permission to work in the US by the government).

He also has not established residency outside of Cuba meaning he can’t even be approved yet.

jwsox
3 years 6 months ago

It’s actually working against the cubs that it was reported what they are offering. Because now teams know the cubs deal is 26 million. Teams have a jumping off point now.

slider32
3 years 6 months ago

Soler would be a good move for the Yanks, it would give them two top prospects in the OF along with Mason Williams. If the Yanks want him they will out bid most teams for him. This may be the reason why the Yanks are trying to trade Burnettt

3 years 6 months ago

I would like to see the Yanks get Soler too. They have done a good job developing OF recently. 

Yankees420
3 years 6 months ago

Like who?  Gardner is great to have, but other than that they haven’t developed much from their own farm.  Melky has had 1 good season, and that seems fueled by a higher than normal BABIP, and Austin Jackson strikes out 1/4 of his at bats and doesn’t have the OBP to justify it.  

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

I think the the operative word is “recently”. However, the reasons you choose to discount Melky and AJ seem odd. First, remove yourself from the though that every prospect MUST turn into a superstar to be considered a good prospect. If a prospect, who wasn’t an early round selection and wasn’t a high priced international signee turns into a everyday player then that’s a success.

At one point the Yanks had Gardner, AJax, Tabata and Melky all in the minors at the same time. That’s pretty good. 4 everyday players with a collective WAR of about 13 (average of over 3 WAR per player).

Also, the next wave looks pretty good as well with Mason Williams, Ravel Santana, Slade Heathcott, Ramon Flores, Daniel Lopez, Tyler Austin, Ben Gamel and some high ceiling long shots like Yeicok Calderon, Kelvin De Leon and Eduardo Sosa. Guys like Melky Mesa and Zolio Almonte are guys who are at a high level but neither has mastered AA yet, so it’s hard to say they are “real” prospects.

inleylandwetrust
3 years 6 months ago

Goldstein was talking about Soler and the Cubs like it was a done deal yesterday on twitter…

dskirsa
3 years 6 months ago

Interesting…my comment (the first one) indicating that it isn’t a forgone conclusion that Soler is going to the Cubs is removed, but this comment is not.

BDLugz
3 years 6 months ago

Because the first comment was an “attack” against Cubs fans, not asking a question about a report/tweet.

dskirsa
3 years 6 months ago

That was an attack? 

I think it has been pretty clear that the Cubs have been labeled the front runners for Soler and the posts on MLBTR have indicated as much.  As a matter of fact, I have trouble coming up with another team as strongly linked to Soler so far.

Therefore, if you read through the comments for Cespedes/Soler, you’ll find Cubs fans indicating their excitement for the upcoming signing of Soler.  Cubs fans should be excited…they are frontrunners for a solid prospect.

This latest news indicates that other teams are in on him as well, so the Cubs may not be as strongly linked as we all thought…ie, sorry cubs fans, don’t pop the bottles of champagne yet lest you feel like the marlins fans do today (or Nats fans after Prince).  It’s no fun to get your hopes up for a player only to have them dashed when another team comes in. 

3 years 6 months ago

Congrats on having your comment un-removed.

jeremiah15y
3 years 6 months ago

Like Burnett to the Pirates huh?

jeremiah15y
3 years 6 months ago

Or Cespedes to the Marlins

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

Would love to see the Phillies pull an Oakland and come out of no where for this guy. None of our toolsy outfielders look like they’re going to pan out besides Domonic Brown… maybe Gillies if he stays healthy but that’s a big “if.”

For whatever reason though, the front office doesn’t like to take a chance with these big name international free agents. I think our last big bonus was Carlos Tocci at $800 k (which is a lot, don’t get me wrong).

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

James can still pan out.  

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

Maybe. Defensively he’s there but he needs to start making some more contact/walk more.

I’m curious to see the numbers he puts up in Reading. Clearwater/Lakewood are notorious pitcher’s parks in pitcher friendly leagues.

Derek Florko
3 years 6 months ago

I would Love to see Oakland pull another Oakland

dook83
3 years 6 months ago

How is a frontrunner for Soler determined?  Has he expressed a preference to play with one club over all others?  If this is truly a competitive bidding process, I’m sure his agent will take a “frontrunning” bid back around to all interested parties at least one more time, at which time any team with the true desire to pay for him will be able to win…

Joey Doughnuts
3 years 6 months ago

Probably based on who has shown the most interest in a player and is willing to spend more. I don’t think the actual player’s thoughts are factored in very much at all when writers declare a “frontrunner”

dook83
3 years 6 months ago

Someone has suggested, and I agree, that the reason they Yankees are about to deal Burnett is so they can trim payroll so they can more easily afford Soler.  The DH they buy once Burnett is gone is only going to cost them $1-2 mill tops and only for this season.  Next season, they have more salaries coming off the payroll (e.g. Mariano) so they can avoid the luxury tax…

stl_cards16
3 years 6 months ago

Soler would mostly cost a signing bonus.  Which as far as I know does not go into the luxury tax.  So I find it unlikely the Yankees are trying to move Burnett to sign Soler.

jb226
3 years 6 months ago

Bonuses DO go into the luxury tax.  Anything that a player is paid does.  For example a $200k bonus for an All Star bid counts against the luxury tax as soon as that player makes the All Star team and that money ends up in his pocket.  I’m not 100% clear if it would be averaged out over the life of the contract for luxury purposes or if it is only averaged out for the years remaining when the payout happens.

This assumes that Soler is on the 40 man roster, which I assume he would be.

3 years 6 months ago

he hasnt said anything, its cubs fans wishing he would be on the cubs. as a matter of fact anything is possible, even the A’s could sneak in an steal him like they did cespedes…

CardsEagles1489
3 years 6 months ago

Lol I think Heyman has “suggested” that the Marlins are in on every free agent..

3 years 6 months ago

I really hope these reports are accurate and Soler will sign the Cubs when he’s available. Gonna have to re rate the Cubs top 10 I’ll take shot at it.

1.) OF Jorge Soler (If signed)
2.) OF Brett Jackson
3.) SS Javier Baez
4.) 1B Anthony Rizzo
5.) OF Matt Szczur
6.) P Trey McNutt
7.) P Dillon Maples
8.) C Welington Castillo
9.) SS Junior Lake
10.) P Rafeal Dolis or 3B Josh Vitters

3 years 6 months ago

doesnt matter if the yankees are very serious about him.

GOTIGERS24
3 years 6 months ago

The Yankees will not get soler, it the same way that prince and the nationals and cespedes and the marlins were linked together but then the mystery team swooped in and picked them up,the yankees are going to try to save money for a deadline deal or a big name next off season they are not known to invest in young talent so dont count on the yankees signing him.

roomwithamoose
3 years 6 months ago

yeah it’s not like we invested in Montero, Sanchez, or anyone else I even remember a certain highly touted SS prospect the Yanks offered the most money for, but lost to the blue jays since he thought he’d be blocked by Jeter, which he had every right to do. THe Yankees get involved, and will if they like what they see, as has been demonstrated in the past

slider32
3 years 6 months ago

I haven’t seen any numbers on Soler as far as a fair contract, what is he worth? I’m thinking 5/25.

a.j.morrison
3 years 6 months ago

#SolerPower

3 years 6 months ago

Every team linked to Soler is only going to end up losing out to the next “mystery team.”  Count on it.

bayareabeast
3 years 6 months ago

so what? it makes it more interesting

3 years 6 months ago

There should be a lottery to settle this.
Soler and his agent sets the parameters of what he wants in his contract and all interested teams accept this before the lottery is run. The winner will be decided by whoever has the winning number. If the winning team tries to renege on the deal they will be fined “One Million” dollars. This way it will prevent front running like the Yankees are trying to do or baloney heads like the Orioles saying they are interested when in fact they are not. In other words it will force the team to make a decision. Because this whole process has gotten out of hand, it really has!

3 years 6 months ago

bologna*

Jason Allen
3 years 6 months ago

Bologna has more to do with the sandwich meat or the Italian city whereas baloney is slang here in the US for absurdity.

FamousGrouse
3 years 6 months ago

Bud Selig would rig the lottery.

Chillin_in_California
3 years 6 months ago

Okay none of those guys are going to be impact players. I cant wait to see what Cespedes, Choice,parker, peacock and the other prospects do

GO A’s

bayareabeast
3 years 6 months ago

you better hope they do the dew

3 years 6 months ago

I’m hearing the mystery team is the Blue Jays.

ImperialStout
3 years 6 months ago

C’mon Mystery Team from Detroit!!!

3 years 6 months ago

Mystery team has to be Detroit … why wouldn’t they be in on this guy?

3 years 6 months ago

detroits already said their not in on him, didnt they?

ImperialStout
3 years 6 months ago

They haven’t said anything about him as far as I know. They don’t seem to be into collecting prospects. Makes me sad. If only teams ran the way I GM mine in MLB The Show. All top prospects and a killer 25 man roster. Oh, video games……

NYPOTENCE
3 years 6 months ago

Cubs favorites? The way this offseason has gone I have already ruled out the Cubs as a possibility.

3 years 6 months ago

I think this is a perfect time to say… Ozzie Guillen is the beginning of the end for the Marlins. As the Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs have taught us, you can’t buy a championship. And next year this time, the Marlins will be stuck with the same players that failed them in 2012.
Sorry. I’m a Cub Fan and that scene is looking all to familiar!

3 years 6 months ago

the yanks and sox have bought plenty of championships.

FillyPhan
3 years 6 months ago

Marlins bought themselves won in 2003.

3 years 6 months ago

Get it right they bought one in 97 in 03 they had the smallest of payrolls.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 6 months ago

No team “buys” a championship. You “buy” players and when they play right and the world is with you then you win championships. What does Ozzie have to do with their downfall? He isn’t the GM or owner anyway.

3 years 6 months ago

What does Ozzie Guillen have to do with the payroll? 

Maracuya
3 years 6 months ago

Nice…jorge is letting some friends know here in santo domingo that he is signing with the new york yankees by friday….congratulations Yankees fans.

MB923
3 years 6 months ago

Oh so you know friends of his huh?

slider32
3 years 6 months ago

I hope you’re right on this one.

3 years 6 months ago

hopefully your right about that one.

slider32
3 years 6 months ago

Alot of teams in on Soler, I think that means the price is going up and Soler will be a big over pay.

dskirsa
3 years 6 months ago

He’s one of the last international free agents that teams can overpay for.  It’s not too surprising considering what Cespedes got.

3 years 6 months ago

 19 years old, ranked no higher than 38th—and teams are willing to throw millions at him? I don’t get it. 

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

What do you think the value of a top 50 prospect is? 

redsx968
3 years 6 months ago

Who was the last 19-year-old draft outfield prospect you saw fetch a $20 million deal beofre stepping foot on an American professional field?

Joshua Pimental
3 years 6 months ago

When was the last time a draft prospect was able to negotiate with all 30 teams and play them off of each other to increase his signing bonus? That’s the difference people don’t notice here. If Strasburg came out of college and all teams could bid on him, he’d get way more than what he ended up with.

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

He’d get at least 75 mill

radicalhenri
3 years 6 months ago

 exactly, he could get more than darvish got

3 years 6 months ago

To be clear, Darvish didn’t get that money.  The team that sold him did.

3 years 6 months ago

So you’re telling me the Nippon Ham Fighters also receive the 60 million dollars from the 6 year contract he signed in addition to the 51.7 million posting fee?

bayareabeast
3 years 6 months ago

not 9 million bucks like the a’s gave cespedes..thats for sure.

Green_Monster08
3 years 6 months ago

It’s not likely the yankees have any real interest. Soler isn’t anywhere near 35 years old and has no history of PED use. He hardly fits the pin stripe mold. 

jjs91
3 years 6 months ago

The yankees average age is 28…

PeanutTheKidnapper
3 years 6 months ago

I have a hard time believing this, but I’m too lazy to fact check.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 6 months ago

ESPN says the Yankees’ average age is 28.6.

PeanutTheKidnapper
3 years 6 months ago

Yes, but that includes a bunch of random players. 

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 6 months ago

If by random you mean their 40-man roster, then yes, very random indeed.

$5427573
3 years 6 months ago

Who’s ages are you averaging there?  It’s certainly not guys at the top of the depth charts.