Highly-regarded high school righty Lucas Giolito sprained the ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow yesterday and will be out six to ten weeks, reports Eric Sondheimer of the L.A. Times. The hard-throwing senior doesn't need surgery, coach Matt LaCour told Sondheimer, but he and his teammates are crushed. Giolito was regarded as the best high school player in the 2012 draft, but now he may be more likely to honor a commitment to UCLA. As Baseball America notes, the new collective bargaining agreement's draft restrictions make it much harder for Giolito to fall in draft position and still receive a ton of money.
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“he new collective bargaining agreement’s draft restrictions make it much
harder for Giolito to fall in draft position and still receive a ton of
money”
The “occupiers” are very happy.. This young kid could still have cashed in big before that useless agreement was made, but alsas.. These young kids have all been thrown under the bus by Selig and his cronies.
How many HS kids I wonder could have gotten major $$, but go to school, then get hurt, or just flame out and never get drafted? I wonder if the “occupy” crowd here ever thought of that before they hammer the new agreement, or cutting down on teams who used to spend 8-10m on the draft every year??
well at least those damn pirates and nationals and royals can’t go crazy on draft spending anymore. they were ruining baseball
Not sure if srs.
Those teams were spending on the draft the last few years. it was a few others i have a feeling who were influencing that particular part of the CBA.
They were picketing the wrong area..Went plum loco…
those are the top three spenders since 2007. the rest of the top 10 are boston, baltimore, tampa, toronto, seattle, san diego, and arizona
bullies, all of them
And… and… all those IFA bullies with their gobs of money as well!
So, so many big bad bullies.
I am still looking for Houston somewhere on that list and would have listed Oakland also, but you guys were prepared by naming IFA 😉
those high 1st round picks took up a huge chunk of that amount.. Lets not leave that outta’ there now… Most of the teams didn’t pass over the Fields type players because they couldn’t sign them…
the pirates last year proved again that it’s been a choice all along when they threw $5M at josh bell in the second round
I meant Bell above.. Not Fields when wrote about passed up …
Man I wanted Boston to grab him and they had 3 shots before he went to…
With the new draft restrictions, a team may look to sign him for a relatively modest signing bonus (if he proves to have fully recovered). With that said, he still stands to lose money and leverage if he decides to sign.
This thread would make more sense if back-to-back comments weren’t removed.
It’s $9.131 MM and that’s for the first 10 rounds
EDIT: meant to reply to Ferrariman
wow, two possible top 10 picks get pretty bad injuries this last month…talk about bad luck, or unfortunate-circumstance luck if you’re a fringe first rounder/top 10-15
Cue Price Is Right fail music here.
This really hurts the Twins. They really need ace potential pitching and could have had Appel or a healthy Giolito (whichever the Astros wouldn’t have taken at #1). Now they will most likely have to look at another position with the Astros almost assured to take Appel.
They will most likely take another “athletic HS outfielder” in Byron Buxton. We can wait 6 years to see him just like Aaron Hicks.
This kind of makes me a terrible human, but the chances he falls to 4 are much higher now.
I don’t think he gets taken at 4 either. More likely it’s in the supplemental round or second round, and my guess is (because of the new CBA) he doesn’t get offered enough money to lure him away from college.
That 10+ million is for all picks within the first 10 rounds. Not just 1 and 1a.
That’s possible. Why wouldn’t they just take him with their first pick and pay him over slot then though?
That’s possible. Why wouldn’t they just take him with their first pick and pay him over slot then though?
If you are the Orioles, drafting Giolito after this news is exactly NOT what the organization should be doing.
Maybe, but I think they’d be better of taking someone who isn’t injured that high in the draft (there are other talented players available at that pick, and it’s not like Giolito is a true 1-1 kind of pick). They could take Gausman (if they want to stick with a pitcher), Buxton, or Marrero (or possibly even Appel could be available depending on who you ask) at #4 and hope Giolito is still there in the 2nd round if they really want to take a shot at signing him.
Playing the board? I’m simply suggesting that the team pay mid-first round money to him in the sandwich and get superior talents (not to Giolito, but compared to what they would in the sandwich) earlier.
If it was a more substantial injury, sure. But it’s not like he tore his rotator cuff or something
That’s true. I’ve been leaning towards (in order):
Giolito, Buxton, Zunino, Appel, Marrero
Yeah but if you are getting guys to sign for under slot, then they’d probably be there in the sandwich anyway, right? I mean it’s not like you’re going to draft a top 15 guy and sign him so far under slot that you get Giolito, you know?
Any injury to the UCL is pretty serious. Especially so early in a players career. Jim Callis said today that just rest is no guarantee he will be cured and that TJS was a possibility in the future.
Fair point. I guess I concede haha
Yes, but you can’t just throw $5MM at late 1st rounders anymore.
It’s slotting , you can’t save money on one pick and allocate it later.
What Randy said. It’s basically a hybrid of the 2 systems you mentioned. Suppose you have picks 3, 35, and 60 as your only picks in the first 10 rounds. You get, for the sake of the example, $6MM to spend over the three picks.
You can spend up to $6MM IF you sign players at all three picks. If you don’t sign a player, say pick 35, then his $ amount comes out of the pool of cash you have.
The takeaway is that you can overpay a pick. But not by the $4MM the pirates overpaid for Bell. There just isn’t that much money in the pool (unless you drafted and signed guys that would’ve gone in the late rounds and signed them for like $200K each or something).