Quick Hits: Yankees, Orioles, Ramirez, Red Sox

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sourbob
3 years 4 months ago

Was there supposed to be a link included in the bit on Carpenter and Winn?

3 years 4 months ago

Lol that’s what I was thinking.

LazerTown
3 years 4 months ago

If they want to get under the 189M threshold they may have to make tough choices.  Cranderson may get 20M on the open market, and cano probably could too.  If they resign both for 20M, then that would mean 115M is tied up by cc, arod, cano, granderson, teix.  Not exactly the best way to operate a club, by handcuffing yourself with that much money.  Then what if they want to sign hamels, cain, lincecum, kershaw.

NomarGarciaparra
3 years 4 months ago

a player being too pricey for the yankees…now that’s a first!

Karkat
3 years 4 months ago

 I don’t understand what these words mean…

mattinglyfan
3 years 4 months ago

I feel bad for Randy Winn: He was a nice guy and solid ballplayer who never made it to the playoffs. Then he leaves the Giants and they go off and win the World Series. I guess it’s the Mattingly fan in me. 

Rabbitov
3 years 4 months ago

Winn’s a nice guy, but he’s cursed.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

 What about Jack Wilson? Finally gets a shot at the postseason last year only to see the Braves complete an historic collapse……

mattinglyfan
3 years 4 months ago

Yeah Jack Wilson is another one too. 

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

He did guarantee a WS thou.. Does that count?

rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

Hanley at third is the story that refuses to die.

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

It sure is, but you have to admit it’s better than seeing Bonifacio and his cameo appearance there.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

 If Hanley would’ve came out of the gate saying that he’s fine with it, there wouldn’t have been much of a story at all. All these mixed reports early has prolonged it, and I expect it to be brought up every time him or Reyes commit and error.

I know a lot of people are looking forward to seeing how this Miami Marlins thing plays out this season, but I’m not one of them. I’m already bored of it, which is a shame because I really enjoyed ‘The Franchise’ last year…….

rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

If you’re already bored of it, you would not have commented. I’m quite frankly tired of it, the invented hoopla over the Hanley situation.

Officially, Hanley is ok with it. In every public communication he’s done, he’s assured everyone he’s ok with it. It’s “insider sources” that seem intent on keeping the story alive for page-clicks. Maybe “mystery team” is the source.

Clayton Wilson
3 years 4 months ago

You’re right, I can’t get enough of it since I commented…….What you just said you were tired of is what I’m talking about being bored with……

I’m sure Hanley’s ok with it by now. I was referring to the days following the Reyes signing. Even Guillen said a month or so ago that Hanley still wasn’t 100% on board with the move. Not trying to keep the story alive or anything, just commenting…..

rsanchez1
3 years 4 months ago

If you’re already bored of it, you would not have commented. I’m quite frankly tired of it, the invented hoopla over the Hanley situation.

Officially, Hanley is ok with it. In every public communication he’s done, he’s assured everyone he’s ok with it. It’s “insider sources” that seem intent on keeping the story alive for page-clicks. Maybe “mystery team” is the source.

BitLocker
3 years 4 months ago

Please, if the Yankees want to retain Cano and Granderson they will. No luxury tax will stop them.

MB923
3 years 4 months ago

I wouldn’t guarantee on Granderson. Cano without a doubt. I will say Yes to both, but I would nto be surprised to see Granderson leave.

Miguel Arias
3 years 4 months ago

Granderson>Cano imo

MB923
3 years 4 months ago

I’d say it’s pretty close, slight edge to Cano only because he’s easily one of the top 3 2B in the game, whereas Granderson makes most Top 5 CF’s in the game.

LifeLongYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

idk if I want them to retain both players both r very good but they r both getting older I would try and sign Cano for sure but I would like for them to get younger in the outfield

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

It’s not that Granderson might be to pricey for the Yankees when he’s a FA in 2014 it’s that he will be to OLD for both the dollars and especially the years he will be looking for as a FA.  He will be 33 to start the 2014 season.  4 years and probably $75 to $80MM will be the most the Yankees will offer him.  While the dollars on a per year basis might be enough I doubt he will accept a 4 year deal.  And having a 37 or 38 year old cover CF in baseball just doesn’t work.

Considering both Ellsbury and Adam Jones are both as of now scheduled to be FA’s also and they are both much younger than Granderson I could and would see the Yankees making a play for one of them.

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

Yeah. If Ells reaches FA, I see NY taking a hard look at him and another reason they choose to hold off extending Grandy. Makes all the sense in the world.

If for some reason Ells does sign an extension between now and the end of 2013 (unlikely) can see a remote chance they will make an attempt to sign grandy if he will only go less than 3 years, otherwise he walks.

Think his age is working against him and they will probably be able to find a replacement in the meantime.

slider32
3 years 4 months ago

I don’t see the Yanks getting Ellibury, if he is great this year he will be locked up long term. On the other side if he keeps getting injured the Sox won’t sign him long term and neither will the Yanks.

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

Ells has no injury history other than 2010. He has been really healthy. He played in 145+ games his other 2 full seasons on the roster and 110+ in the minors.

Not so sure Boston will sign him LT, or not as sure as many Sox fans are at least.. Am hoping they do however. They will be approaching the time to reassess Lester and Pedey around that time and could probably get both for just a little more than what Ells will be wanting with Boras as his agent and I (for one) would gladly take those 2 any day over Ells if that was the trade off.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

Slider, you may be forgetting who Ellsbury’s agent is.  It’s none other than Scott Boras.  As we all know he encourages his clients to test FA especially when they are the caliber of Ellsbury.  Besides imagine what the Sox would have to offer Ellsbury considering that dog of a left fielder they gave a 7yr/$142MM contract to.
If he has another good year in 2012 he’s going to be a free agent at the end of 2013 no if’s, and’s or but’s. 

johnsilver
3 years 4 months ago

Yeah. If Ells reaches FA, I see NY taking a hard look at him and another reason they choose to hold off extending Grandy. Makes all the sense in the world.

If for some reason Ells does sign an extension between now and the end of 2013 (unlikely) can see a remote chance they will make an attempt to sign grandy if he will only go less than 3 years, otherwise he walks.

Think his age is working against him and they will probably be able to find a replacement in the meantime.

Yankees420
3 years 4 months ago

I agree that Granderson’s age is part of the reason the Yankees might be hesitant to sign him long term.  But, with Garnder on the roster, they could easily just switch Granderon over to LF where he will hopefully age better, and still be able to be a solid defender because there will be less ground to cover.  

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

My friend, they could do that.  But there is one problem with that theory.  Granderson’s a FA in 2014 he will be 33 that year.  If the Yankees offer him any more then 4 years he would be 37 entering a 5th year of a new contract.  In 6 or 7 years from today Gardner will be going on 34.  Gardner is really effective today because of his speed.  I’m not sure that 6 or 7 years from today the Yankees want a 37 year old Granderson manning LF and a 34 year old Gardner manning CF for another couple of years.  That does NOT sound like a receipt for success.

Like I said earlier.  My guess is they offer Granderson a 4 year deal max if he accepts great.  If not they move on to a young and what will be a more athletic option for the outfield.

slider32
3 years 4 months ago

The Yanks will be under the cap (189 million) in 2014. Cashman can try to backend both Cano and Grandy’s contract so they will increase as A-Rod’ and Tex’s contract come off the books. This is the same thing DiPoto did with Pujols for the Angels. Tex’s contract is up in 2016 and A-Rod 2017.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

Slider, backloading a players contract does absolutely nothing about a teams luxury tax implications.  MLB uses a players AAV to determine a teams payroll and luxury tax implications.

LazerTown
3 years 4 months ago

backloading ultimately ties you up anyways.  Then you got huge bloated contracts when the player isnt worth it, better to just be paying the player what they are worth in the years they are worth it.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 4 months ago

Slider, backloading a players contract does absolutely nothing about a teams luxury tax implications.  MLB uses a players AAV to determine a teams payroll and luxury tax implications.