Rosenthal’s Latest: Morneau, Ruiz, Upton, Hamilton

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports has a new Full Count video up, so let's recap…

  • Don't be surprised if the Twins consider trading Justin Morneau. The first baseman is owed $14MM both this season and next, and Minnesota likely needs the position for Joe Mauer long-term. Denard Span, Matt Capps, and Carl Pavano could also be on the block, but Morneau offers hard-to-find power. He has a no-trade clause but the extent is unknown.
  • The Phillies hold a $5MM option for 2013 on catcher Carlos Ruiz and an extension is warranted, but at 33 years old, Chooch is three years older than Yadier Molina and four years older than Miguel Montero. They aren't contract comparables.
  • This year's crop of free agent center fielders stand to benefit from Adam Jones' new six-year, $88.5MM extension, but age will again be a factor. B.J. Upton will be 28 next season and is two years younger than Michael Bourn and four years younger than Shane Victorino. All three will hit the open market after the season.
  • Josh Hamilton is unlikely to sign a contract extension with the Rangers, and the lack of comparable players (both on and off the field) make him even more likely to hit the open market. It's possible the only way to determine his actual value is to let other teams bid for his services as a free agent.

25 Responses to Rosenthal’s Latest: Morneau, Ruiz, Upton, Hamilton Leave a Reply

  1. Are the Twins going to hold a fire sale or not? I really would love to see Liriano in an O’s uniform. I would love to see Headley and Volquez wearing the Orange and Black even more. Denard Span, Matt Capps and Carl Pavano who are these guys and why would anyone want them? They aren’t going to trade Morneau and if they do, I will believe it when I see it. 

    Chooch is awesome, I didn’t realize that he was what 28 when he was a rookie? It’s a shame he a bit of a late bloomer, but he really is one of the best clutch hitters the Phillies have these days.

    Josh Hamilton is even more awesome, that walk off of his tonight was really something.  Frasor might not be the best reliever out there, but for Hamilton to hit that ball to the deepest part of the stadium was unreal.

    • Ryan 3 years ago

      Span is batting over 300 and is a great player. You would be crazy to not want him!

  2. CommissionerBart 3 years ago

    Mauer is a good athlete. Any chance he could learn to play third?

    • IndianaBob 3 years ago

      I was thinking that too.  He certainly has the arm.  It seems a shame to waste his arm and athleticism on 1B and DH once he moves off of catcher.

  3. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    Morneau to the jays makes too much sense.

    and no not because he’s canadian.


    • johnsilver 3 years ago

       Because he is Canadian and likes hockey?

    • Sniderlover 3 years ago

       As long as he is healthy. I have no idea what he could fetch though. Even healthy, you still have some concerns, he is also owed a lot of money and I’m not sure if there is a big market out there for 1st baseman since most top teams have a 1st baseman locked in for a long time. Jays are seriously lacking another middle of the order bat.

      It’s too bad he got injured in the first place. He was having a pretty special season that year and would have given Hamilton a run for his money.

      • Lunchbox45 3 years ago

        Jays have some serious arms and can spare a few..

        I’d say  it would be a package built around a  young high end arm, and marisnick.

        At this point I do it. I give the twins what they want as long as its not Gose or D’arnaud

        • Sniderlover 3 years ago

           I can’t see Morneau costing THAT much.

          • Lunchbox45 3 years ago

             An A arm and an A outfielder is not that much.

    • FriedCalamari 3 years ago

      Agreed, if he can stay healthy and is close to or the same hitter of old. Thee Jays could really use that extra juice in the lineup 

    • MannyBeingMVP 3 years ago

      Morneau to the Dodgers also makes sense.

      • Lunchbox45 3 years ago

        jays would be able to offer more in prospects than the dodgers. 

  4. Slopeboy 3 years ago

    I may be wrong… But the Orioles’ extending Jones have done the Rangers
    a service. Firstly they pretty much took themselves out of the running in Hamilton sweepstakes, so that’s one less team to go up against. Secondly Texas will be able to use the years and the money given to Jones as a guideline to re-sign Hamilton. Granted, Josh is a superior player to Jones and will garner a better contract, but not an overwhelmingly lucrative one.

    My reasons are the following, MLB’s new economics, Hamilton’s history, his baggage and the number of teams that will actually get involved in the bidding. Like it or not, the ‘Salary Cap’ is coming, and everyone will make certain to adhere to it, particularly
    at it’s inception. Big long term contracts will hinder the ability for a GM to make moves
    Teams like NYY, Bos,LAA,Det,LAD,Was,Phi,NYM, the historical spenders won’t get involved in the the bidding this time around. Most of the mid-market teams such as the Reds,Brewers,D-Backs, and Cards are locking up their inexpensive young talent while they can.

    Throw into that Hamilton’s injury history which is part of his resume and that will scare away many potential bidders. Injuries are part of the game and can be looked as part of ‘doing business’, but when a player has a rep for getting hurt and will make huge money, anyone has to think twice about signing him.

    Then we have the ‘Baggage Issue’. Everyone knows the deal with Hamilton, as well the relapses and the accommodations the Rangers have made for him. Not certain a new owner would pay him big money, spend additional monies on ‘Baby Sitting’ services and hope he can stay healthy.

    There’s no doubt Hamilton’s a major talent and exciting as hell to watch, but I really think Texas will re-sign him at good but not outrageous money. He and his agent will be somewhat surprised at the few teams that will offer that hugemongus contract they’re expecting.

    Better than Adam Jones for sure, but not close to Pujols or Fielder in years or cash.

    • johnsilver 3 years ago

       “the Orioles’ extending Jones have done the Rangers
      a service. Firstly they pretty much took themselves out of the running in Hamilton sweepstakes”

      Angelos offering a large, multi year contract to any FA (not from the metro area) is not going to happen anyway IMO. Granted, he made an exception and made a much less FA offer to tex (local player) when he was available, but nothing serious really since.

      The ghost of Albert Bell (and his hip) still haunt Angelos.

  5. Wek 3 years ago

    Hamilton will probably be moved to RF or LF to lessen his workload on the field so the O’s can still make a run for him. No serious team will use Jones’ new contract to begin negotiations, if they do they won’t go past the first phone call/meeting. If anything, Werth and Crawford deals will be used instead but even those are lowball offers. Hamilton will place himself in a whole different level if he continues this production and will break some team’s bank.

  6. Slopeboy 3 years ago

    I may be wrong but I’m not crazy. I actually see your figure as the max he will get from Texas. Keep in mind he’s already 31.
    Crazy would be the GM who pays anything more than that!
    Moreso if he has any kind of injury this season.

  7. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    they need a 1B and a middle of the order bat. twins need prospects

  8. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    ummm maybe because prince fielder got a 200 million dollar contract?

    How do you compared a trade to free agency, its apples and bowling balls.

    and there arent “so many holes”.. there’s 1B and LF. and LF they are some internal options and prospects moving up, 1B there isn’t. seems like you are arguing for the sake of, this isnt rocket science.

  9. Slopeboy 3 years ago

    Thanks for highlighting one of my points. The reds re-signed one of their inexpensive players rather than go out into the FA market. Votto’s big bucks don’t start until 2016 @ $20 mil per year. That’s where Hamilton and his people are looking to start. While 31 is certainly not old,his body has taken abuse, and along with his history, I still can’t see anyone offering Big Money and anything more than seven years. If he’s looking to leave for the Big Bucks he’d better stay healthy, clean and on that HR pace.

  10. Lunchbox45 3 years ago

    white flag

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