Braves Moving Toward Deal For Ryan Dempster

12:59pm: The Braves seem to be close to acquiring Ryan Dempster, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (Twitter links). The Braves are believed to be high on the list of teams to which Dempster would approve a trade, Heyman notes. The right-hander, who can veto any trade, is not likely to demand an extension. 

Dempster, 35, has an NL-best 2.11 ERA with 7.1 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in 98 innings for the Cubs this year. He earns $14MM in 2012 — more than $5.5MM between now and the end of the season — but the Cubs are said to be willing to absorb salary to facilitate a deal.

12:39pm: The Braves are moving closer to finalizing a trade for a starting pitcher, David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports (on Twitter). GM Frank Wren is known to be looking for starting pitching and reportedly has some interest in Zack Greinke, Ryan Dempster, Jon LesterJason Vargas and others.

Braves starters have combined for a 4.34 ERA with 7.0 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 so far this year. The team's rotation currently consists of Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, Mike Minor, Jair Jurrjens and newcomer Ben Sheets. Brandon Beachy and Arodys Vizcaino are out for the season with Tommy John surgery, which has diminished the organization's internal options. Here's a look at some potentially available starting pitchers.

This post was first published on Monday, July 23rd.


85 Responses to Braves Moving Toward Deal For Ryan Dempster Leave a Reply

  1. Njriv 3 years ago

    Dempster

  2. Jon Lester?

    • Normally, I would say no way, but judging by Ben Cherington’s complete and utter incompetence as a GM (see: Reddick and Lowrie for Bailey, Melancon, and Sweeney, and Youkilis for a bag of balls while eating nearly all of Youk’s contract) and his horrible draft haul, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see him sell low on Lester.

    • Oilcanoworms 3 years ago

      I have always liked Lester, but the guy is a total mystery this year.

    • DanRowinski 3 years ago

      The Braves apparently called about Lester. A lot of the rumors surrounding the Sox recently have not been initiated by the Red Sox themselves but about teams inquiring about Red Sox talent. The Sox wouldn’t move guys like Lester or Crawford and couldn’t move Beckett if they wanted to.

  3. TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

    I’m going Garza

  4. marinest21 3 years ago

    Bringing back Kenny Powers?

    Good move Wren.

  5. Wow they deal Tehran straight for Garza. Crazy!

  6. Dylan 3 years ago

    Joe Blanton.

  7. Please tell me it is Josh Beckett, because I can’t sit here and watch Beckett help destroy the Red Sox.

  8. donjuandemarco 3 years ago

    Ten bucks and a tootsie pop says it’s Dempster.

  9. WisBrave 3 years ago

    Wandy, just because there hasn’t been much talk about him. Wren stays away from the obvious options.

    • I could see it being Wandy. As an Astros fan, I’m just glad that it’s Luhnow who would be doing the negoations with Wren instead of Ed Wade…

  10. redsox927 3 years ago

    Its either Dempster or somebody not “known to be on the market” by the media.

  11. Please be Greinke.

    • the_show 3 years ago

      I think there would be more rumors floating around if a deal for Greinke was close

  12. marinest21 3 years ago

    They could be moving someone off the big club (maybe two). Constanza got recalled from AAA.

  13. Darnell McDonald

  14. M.Kit 3 years ago

    I’m thinking Dempster. Imagine teams aren’t 100% on Garza with the cramp he experienced

    • sdsuphilip 3 years ago

      and you think teams are sold on dempster who is 35, due regression to the mean and has no team control past this year?

      • Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

        Dempster has a a proven track record since 2008 and currently has the best ERA in baseball. Even if he regresses somewhat, which is not the sure thing that everybody here always argues, he is still a solid #2 this year and at worst, a high-end #3 with the way he is pitching.

        • sdsuphilip 3 years ago

          He has pitched like a 3 all year, just been extremely lucky, and that is generally what he has been over his career, an average three.

  15. mgsports 3 years ago

    One of Twins Starters,Span and Danny V. for Delgado,Simmons the Catcher and so on?

    • Mike Query 3 years ago

      You must be a twins fan, that trade is just god awful.

  16. jpbucco 3 years ago

    Well THAT narrows it down…

  17. Rbraz 3 years ago

    Liriano

  18. BraveCrowe 3 years ago

    I think we go out and get two starters …I really do

    • Dempster today.. Liriano later this week depending on his start today

    • erm016 3 years ago

      Wouldn’t surprise me, assuming you’re taking JJ & Minor away. Which we should. I’d LOVE if it was Lester and Greinke 😀

  19. marinest21 3 years ago

    Probably a reaction to Jurrijens’ dismantling yesterday courtesy of the Nats.

  20. Tomahawkin11 3 years ago

    No Vargas please.

  21. geauxbraves2000 3 years ago

    Knowing FW I wouldn’t doubt it that player was completely off the radar.

  22. Reports say they are close to getting Dempster

  23. quadbravesfan 3 years ago

    Dempster per Bowman

  24. braveboy3 3 years ago

    Its Demspter…Jon Heyman just reported that the Braves are getting close on him.

  25. Rick Ankiel is back to pitching. We got ’em. Good job Wren!

  26. marinest21 3 years ago

    Crasnick just reported it’s Dempster too.

  27. BraveCrowe 3 years ago

    How many more years is Gomez under control at Milwaukee? I see a move for Greinke, that’s obviously who he wants, maybe try and get a controllable CF in the deal as well…I think Bourn has played his way out of our pockets, as sad as that is.

  28. Eduardo Medina 3 years ago

    Dempster for Jurrjens + Top prospect

  29. Natsfan89 3 years ago

    If the Braves get him on the cheap I’m gonna be disappointed Rizzo didn’t try and get him

  30. Jwick22 3 years ago

    hopefully dempster is not the only pitcher the braves get this week. still need a front line starter. really dont see dempster going toe to toe with the opposing teams ace in a playoff game

    • Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

      That’s hard to say. Demspter might not have the ace pedigree that some other pitchers have, but he is pitching like an ace this year. If he can keep it up, he should be able to go toe to toe with most pitchers. At worst, he will match up very well with the #2 or #3 pitchers. Besides, you aren’t giving up a ace-pitcher package to get him.

      • Jwick22 3 years ago

        Im ok with the braves going out and getting him. But still dont have an ace or top of the rotation guy. They still have the means to make it happen. I would think the atlanta heat and it being the second half will affect his numbers. Just hope he can go past 5 innings on a regular basis

  31. BraveCrowe 3 years ago

    I dont see Minor, Delgado or obviously Julio going for the rental. at least I hope not.

    • John Kappel 3 years ago

      Delgado going to Brewers. Bowman confirms.

      • NL_East_Rivalry 3 years ago

        He did say Delgado COULD be the other piece. Though, I figure it may have to be him with his value lowered a little and the lack of other options.

      • Michael Gallemore 3 years ago

        I think you read that wrong. Bowman said he thinks Delgado COULD be on the OTHER side of the deal, meaning going to Chicago.

      • 14 Rocks 3 years ago

        He confirmed the trade, NOT who is going. It had better not be Randall Delgado for an old rental pitcher.

    • Dylan 3 years ago

      Seems like its Delgado. I can’t imagine what Cole is worth…

  32. Michael Gallemore 3 years ago

    Bowman seems to think we gave up Delgado

  33. nm344 3 years ago

    If its Delgado, what a horrible trade for the Braves.

    • 14 Rocks 3 years ago

      Exactly. Wren needs to be fired if he trades 5 years of Randall Delgado for an old, overpaid, over-achieving rental pitcher.

  34. Delgado for Dempster and Soriano

    • esasc4 3 years ago

      i could see delgado for dempster and reed johnson

  35. Braves2014Champs 3 years ago

    I wouldnt think wren would be pulling the trigger on dempster while giving up top prosepcts for a two month rental so I assume cubs arent getting much or wren has talked to dempster about an exstension

    • Michael Gallemore 3 years ago

      David O’Brien @ajcbraves

      #Braves believe they’d have good shot at re-signing Dempster, because of history that Wren and Fredi have w/ him from Marlins days.

  36. ROR1997 3 years ago

    Garza will be gone either tonight or tomorrow

  37. erm016 3 years ago

    I hope we’re not done. A bench player or two, and another front line starter (Lester/Greinke) or Lariano at least.

    • ROR1997 3 years ago

      I bet you’re one of those guys who say the yankees buy there team

      • erm016 3 years ago

        Well first, we’d be buying low on Lester. We’d also trade away some of our top pitching prospects. We’d also do the same for Greinke if we did it this year – next year we could sign him as a FA and our payroll would barely go over 100m (If even that) – so, not sure how you can assume that – giving we’d still be $100mil under what the Skanks are.

        It’s not buying a championship if you’re trading from your farm system.

        But, I bet you’re one of those guys who doesn’t know how to use they’re, their & there correctly… wait. You are.

  38. asovermann 3 years ago

    Bowman is hearing Delgado for Dempster.

    • esasc4 3 years ago

      if it is delgado, we just made a terrible trade again! thanks wren

  39. Dempster has a low ERA this year, doesn’t mean anything.
    He has a career losing record and an ERA >4.
    Look at his last few seasons, it’s nothing to trade a good prospect for.

    • Philip Marlowe 3 years ago

      You’re using his win-loss record and ERA to determine whether or not he’s a good pitcher? For shame!

      • Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

        Agree. He is also using Dempster’s career ERA, which includes his early years where he struggled, had TJ surgery and spent a few years in the bullpen. This is a common lazy practice around these parts when arguing that Dempster is mediocre. Dempster basically reinvented himself in 2008 when he became a starter again, this should be common knowledge and used as a determining factor for what type of pitcher Dempster is. I would think that people would want to be knowledgeable about a pitcher before creating an opinion, but I guess not.

    • Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

      Haha….so his low ERA this year is meaningless, but his career record has importance? Also, you need to know that Dempster did not become a starter again until 2008, when he basically reinvented himself. Since that time, his ERA and FIP are in the mid 3’s, which is a very good pitcher. So if you look at those seasons, Dempster def. has some value. And considering he has the best ERA in baseball this year, which, like it or not, is significant, he is worth a couple of good prospects, not necessarily top prospects, but good prospects.

  40. MetsMagic 3 years ago

    I’ve always liked Dempster but the Braves shouldn’t be disappointed if he doesn’t pitch like an ace for them.

    • Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

      They won’t be giving up the package necessary to acquire an ace, so they shouldn’t expect Dempster to pitch like that. However, if Dempster is able to pitch like he has for the rest of the season, which is not out of the question, then they will be getting great value.

  41. anyone else notice how close the listed stats of the braves pitching staff this year are to Dempsters career numbers??? Hope they aren’t giving up more than a 2nd tier pitching prospect

  42. quadbravesfan 3 years ago

    With what spot? Dempster, Hanson, Hudson, Sheets are locked in. And Delgado/Minor will likely stay as #5.

  43. Jwick22 3 years ago

    i believe wren will get another pitcher too. just dont see dempster being the answer by himself. they cant go into the second half trusting hanson this year like last. already got hammered in his last two starts.

  44. asovermann 3 years ago

    Mark Bowman on twitter

  45. Michael Gallemore 3 years ago

    His twitter account

  46. Andrew Cartwright 3 years ago

    No, but we definitley think they are worth more than a couple of surplus mid-tier prospects that every farm system already has and that buying teams seem to think will suffice. A top 5 prospect, or top 10 depending on the farm system, is fair value for a proven, talented MLB pitcher, even if it is a rental. After all, prospects are mostly unknowns.

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