D’Backs Tried To Acquire Ace Pitcher

5:33pm: The Diamondbacks were indeed working to acquire Garza today, Olney reports (on Twitter).

12:58pm: Lefty Patrick Corbin has been scratched from his start for Arizona's Triple-A affiliate, tweets Chris Gabel of the Reno Gazette-Journal.  Magruder has been told Corbin will not be moved, but says he guesses things could change in what Kevin Towers likes to call the "lightning round."

12:46pm: The Diamondbacks are not currently discussing a deal with the Cubs involving Upton and Garza, reports MLB.com's Steve Gilbert.  It was only Olney's speculation in the first place.

12:31pm: The D'Backs are "working hard on something big," tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.  Olney feels that an Upton-Matt Garza framework makes sense for the Cubs and Diamondbacks.  Upton does have the Cubs on his no-trade list, notes Olney.

10:56am: Diamondbacks managing partner Ken Kendrick dismissed talk of acquiring Lee, Jack Magruder of FOXSportsArizona.com reports (Twitter links).  "He is owed $100MM. If they want to keep $90MM" Kendrick said. "Really problematic to move him."  Arizona would still like to acquire a starter, but Kendrick says we should not expect front page news.

8:37am: The Diamondbacks are one of the teams to which Lee can block a trade, notes Rosenthal.

8:08am: The Diamondbacks say Upton is definitely staying and there is no truth to rumors of Lee or Hernandez, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today.  That, of course, does not make Rosenthal's report of the D'Backs seeking an ace pitcher untrue.  Meanwhile, Nightengale notes that the club is likely to trade shortstop Stephen Drew today.

3:59am: The Diamondbacks are trying to swing a blockbuster for an unknown ace starting pitcher, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  One rival executive "received indications that the Phillies and Diamondbacks had discussed a deal involving Cliff Lee and Justin Upton," but that scenario is unconfirmed and it is not known whether the D'Backs are among the 21 teams to which Lee can block a trade.  Plus, Kevin Towers and company would need serious assistance covering the $95.1MM guaranteed to the Phillies' lefty through 2015.

Rosenthal notes that the Mariners inquired on Upton earlier this month, but talks failed to progress.  Given that club's repeated comments on and off record, we can probably forget about Felix Hernandez.

Rosenthal did not mention the Marlins' Josh Johnson, who is reportedly expected to stay put through today's deadline.  It's difficult to name another ace-like starting pitcher on whom a team might listen. 


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109 Comments on "D’Backs Tried To Acquire Ace Pitcher"


Bigj48
3 years 28 days ago

boom, who wants jup more, phillies or mariners.

Andy Forrester
3 years 28 days ago

Man On A Mission: Kevin Towers continues to try to trade Justin Upton!

Seriously though, neither pitcher make sense for the Diamondbacks. Both cost way too much, and looking at Lee the team might as well try to trade for Justin Masterson as a starter in comparison with Lee’s stats this season.

Marvin Marshall
3 years 28 days ago

Felix’s contract would be offset by moving Upton & having both Drew & Saunders off the books after 2012. And unless Philly eats a lot of Lee’s money owed, I don’t see Lee in an AZ uniform.

Andy Forrester
3 years 28 days ago

And the Diamondbacks open up a huge hole in their lineup by trading away Upton. They platoon Chris Young and Gerardo Parra in CF for a reason, and you don’t give prospects like AJ Pollock or Adam Eaton the responsibility to fill his void when he leaves.

mmiller54
3 years 28 days ago

Wrong. You can’t say it opens up a hole for this year’s team when Upton hasn’t performed for this team. Parra has 6 HR and JUp has 8 HR. Parra hits .291, JUp hits .271. This year, it’s easy to argue that Parra is an upgrade, especially with his better defense.

Andy Forrester
3 years 28 days ago

By trading Upton we put Chris Young back into the lineup, forcing him to hit against right handed batters. Let’s face it, the Diamondbacks made Parra and Young platoon partners for a reason, Young can’t hit right handed batting. Justin Upton is also having a down season, one year removed from his 31 homer year which resulted in him being rated 4th in the MVP voting.

Think of it this way, should the Dodgers have traded Matt Kemp after his poor 2010? You don’t sell low on potential superstars if they’re having one down season.

Fred Ricardo
3 years 28 days ago

CY is .217 hitter from either side of the plate, Parra a .290 hitter can play everyday and will gone if he is not played more.

Andy Forrester
3 years 28 days ago

Actually, you’re quite wrong. Chris Young hits .177 RHP and .297 LHP. Maybe you should look up splits before making statistical comments?

Tyler Sekula
3 years 28 days ago

this is why i am still up..

philliesfan123
3 years 28 days ago

same. Waiting for Ruben to pull off something crazy.

Gothapotamus
3 years 28 days ago

If there’s one thing we know, it’s Ruben’s penchant for a blockbuster. Something big beyond the Blanton, Vic and Pence chatter is going to happen today, my RAJdar senses it.

randyfastman
3 years 28 days ago

RAJdar!! that’s good!

Jay212033
3 years 28 days ago

Upton for Tommy Hanson and Julio Teheran

George Hareras
3 years 28 days ago

keep dreaming

the braves already have Bourn Prado and Heyward…
maybe in the offseason bc Bourn is probably gonna hit the FA market.
Hanson will definitely stay, but I wouldnt be mad if Teheran is involved in a deal for Upton

George Hareras
3 years 28 days ago

Also Beachy is having TJ, Sheets has been a nice surprise but i dont know if he can be good for next year, Hudson is pretty old and maybe 1 year left… the rotation cant afford to lose Hanson

Jwick22
3 years 28 days ago

hanson needs to get some control over his 88 mph fastball. dont know has happened to this kid but hope he can get that power fastball back and stop walking so many batters. he was suppose to be the ace of this staff for years and now he is just 4-5 guy

3 years 28 days ago

Garza? Beckett?

Dustroia15
3 years 28 days ago

Upton for Beckett, Iglesias, Brentz or Kalish and $12.75M.

Red Sox essentially paying Upton
2013 – $14M. 2014 – $18.50M. 2015 – $18.50M
DBacks essentially paying Beckett
2013 – $11.50M. 2014 – $11.50M. 2015 – $11.50M

Dustroia15
3 years 28 days ago

Just realized Beckett is only signed through 2014. I could see the Red Sox throwing in up to $15M to get Upton, essentially paying Beckett less than $10M a year.

He is decent in the AL East even during a down year and would easily be front on the rotation in the NL, $9M a year is a steal.

MaineSox
3 years 28 days ago

Neither one is an Ace, but unless they are attempting to trade for someone who isn’t expected to be available the only real Ace on the market is Lee.

johnsilver
3 years 28 days ago

A shocker could be Lester moved to the DBacks in an Upton deal, along with some prospects. Granted, lester has only been a very solid #2 from 2008-11, but if he regains that form in the NL he had.. About as close to an Ace as one can get and not a high salary either through next season.

Boston could really do without him if they had to this year in the rotation and could somehow swing a deal for Upton. the prospect mix along with him would be tricky and yes.. Realize management *said* they weren’t going to move him, yet we have all heard that before.

Jeff Miller
3 years 28 days ago

If this deal were to happen there is about $50M separating the guaranteed remaining money from 2013-2015. If the Phillies throw in $21M-$24M ($7M-$8M/year over 3 years) that might move talks along. This would probably also have to be a straight up deal that doesn’t involve any prospects unless its also a swap of prospects taking too long to develop. Like Domonic Brown for Alfredo Marte.

Catztradamus
3 years 28 days ago

That makes no sense for Philly, though. That essentially makes Upton a 25mm OF. The only reason they’d trade lee is to loosen the salary constraints and have the ability to shift the money around.

Joel Peterson
3 years 28 days ago

ok

Joel Peterson
3 years 28 days ago

Is Halladay available? If he is I think the cards could make a nice package offer.

Miller, Jay, Cox, Kelly and Cleto for Halladay and Victorino.

I think it would cover a lot of the phils needs long term, cheaply, while giving the cards an ace who fits into the plan of competing legitimately for sure until the end of 2013.

shysox
3 years 28 days ago

I doubt Halladay is available, but that deal seems adequate for Lee and Victorino.

Joel Peterson
3 years 28 days ago

Cards just cant take on Lees salary. If the phils wanted Matt Carpenter I think he could be worked in with Polanco and money coming back.

If the phils are willing to trade an ace like Lee I dont see why they couldnt trade Halladay. They may not get the salary relief they want directly but they would indirectly with Miller, Kelly, Cox/Carpenter and Jay filling their needs.

If the phils were to trade Pence what about Allen Craig? Craig, Kelly, Cox, and Carpenter for Halladay, Victorino and Polanco and money. Maybe sub in Miller for Kelly if push came to shove.

Catztradamus
3 years 28 days ago

Your not getting that past rube without ncluding freese.

stl_cards16
3 years 28 days ago

That’s a pretty darn good package for a pitcher with some pretty serious health questions.

3 years 28 days ago

GO DBACKS! Get King Felix for J Up!

Andy Forrester
3 years 28 days ago

That would do way more damage than good.

3 years 28 days ago

Okay trading Upton for Lee would be really dumb. Like really, really dumb. 33 year old pitcher on the decline with a huge contract? No thanks. Upton for Felix makes more sense, we’ll see though. Kubel, Parra, Young and Eaton could man the OF. They’ve had no trouble scoring runs with Upton deciding to take the year off anyways.

FamousGrouse
3 years 28 days ago

Hmm…David Price?

javywoz
3 years 28 days ago

No way on Price (Rays have said Price and Moore off-limits). Hellickson a possibility, but don’t think he fits into that “ace” designation yet. Plus Rays-Diamondbacks don’t match up on this. Rays already have Jennings – BJ Upton – Joyce in the OF. BJ is likely gone after this year (would be funny to replace one Upton with the other), but doesn’t make sense for them this year.

Peter Genova
3 years 28 days ago

or James Shields? The Rays need a SS, and the D’Backs are trying to move Stephen Drew. The Rays’ asking price would be too high though. They would probably want Wheeler as a future 1B and another arm in return.

3 years 28 days ago

Wheeler is expendable though.

FamousGrouse
3 years 28 days ago

Yeah James Shields seems more realistic. Still there are some nice minor league players that could help out the Rays.

notsureifsrs
3 years 28 days ago

nnnooooooo

Dave_Gershman
3 years 28 days ago

Why not?

mets322
3 years 28 days ago

Upton for Johan? don’t think it really works, but what the heck!

3 years 28 days ago

HAHAHA!

qudjy1
3 years 28 days ago

A rival executive received indications??? Im not putting too much stock in that source.

Dave Traverso
3 years 28 days ago

Can AZ even afford Lee’s contract? I don’t see the Phils eating a large portion of it

qudjy1
3 years 28 days ago

I bet AZ talked to MIA about Josh Johnson. Its really the only thing that makes sense.

primi_timpano
3 years 28 days ago

Have the feeling the Sox-Rangers-Beckett rumors are related to an Upton trade.

MaineSox
3 years 28 days ago

Beckett to the Rangers, Upton to the Red Sox, and prospects from the Rangers and Sox to the D’Backs would be fun, but it wouldn’t give the D’Backs the pitcher they are looking for.

qudjy1
3 years 28 days ago

Upton is staying. Thank goodness for AZ.

mgsports
3 years 28 days ago

They Trade him to Cubs or Red Sox who them flip him to like the Dodgers or Rays or White Sox or Rangers.

Fred Ricardo
3 years 28 days ago

I would trade a bat boy for Upton to get rid of him.

XxMadDogxX
3 years 28 days ago

The Brewers will gladly give you Randy Wolf!

Ausome7
3 years 28 days ago

Max Scherzer and Nick Castellanos for Upton