NL East Notes: Reyes, Bonifacio, Murphy

The Marlins appear to have set an extremely high asking price for Josh Johnson, Jon Heyman reported today. Here’s the latest on the Marlins and their NL East rivals…


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68 Comments on "NL East Notes: Reyes, Bonifacio, Murphy"


rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Well basically it goes like this. Marlins decide to keep Reyes and Buehrle because if they don’t the fans of the Marlins would burn that ball park down.

ASod75
3 years 1 month ago

All five of them.

ASod75
3 years 1 month ago

And trust me, I don’t blame them for not going out to see that team. Ownership constantly selling them a bill of goods.

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Passan ‘s article, love him or hate him, eloquently called them con artists. This is worse than what A’s owners do to their fan base. Well maybe not worse but its right up there.

ASod75
3 years 1 month ago

Yeah, I read the article and I feel bad for their fans. Then again, I’m a Mets fan who lives in Florida. The Mets’ owners are also scam artists so I know the feeling all too well.

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

Whitesox wouldn’t mind buehrle coming back. The marlins eat some money not most but some, for either Nestor Molina or Simon Castro and jarred Mitchell or Jordan danks. Throw in Floyd

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Was money the issue with Buehrle coming back or was it his loyalty to Ozzie that prompted to got to Miami? I never really followed that story line and could use some info.

robhussle
3 years 1 month ago

Pretty sure it was money motivated.

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

Money and the whitesox had sale who is a better pitcher at this moment ready to take over at a much smaller price tag. There was no bad blood at all about him leaving. The thought was the rotation would be peavy- dank- Floyd- sale- humber. Injuries killed that rotation. If the marlins picked up some of the price tag( they would need to if they wanted to move him, he would be welcomed back with a standing ovation. I see the sox or cards being interested in him

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Could possibly see that but I think Marlins don’t want a PR disaster on their hands not that they don’t already.

Baghtru
3 years 1 month ago

Also, Buehrle is cheap this year, next year his contract begins to escalate and he will be traded to the Cardinals at the deadline when the Marlins dump again and the increase in his salary is looming.

johnsilver
3 years 1 month ago

I’d hang onto Bonifacio, right behind Stanton. Plays everywhere, hits and one of the fastest players in either league getting paid chump change. 2 more years of control.

A team would have to literally dump it’s pockets inside out to get him.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
3 years 1 month ago

I think he’s a fun player to watch-it seems like the Marlins started their swift descent when he hit the disabled list. I think he’s a real important part of that team.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
3 years 1 month ago

I remember when Emilio Bonifacio was trying to break through as a player, way back with the D’backs and then the Nats. Man did he look awful for a few years. He had the noodlest of noodle bats, but he also had magnificent speed. Then Miami gets him, and the same thing-except he starts showing a little bit improvement with every year. Now he’s a spark plug at the top of the line up and I think if he is made available, he’d draw a lot of interest.

I guess there’s a lesson in there somewhere.

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Agreed his value is pretty high right now with 2 more years of control he can net probably 2 very good prospects.

jwsox
3 years 1 month ago

The lesson is that some times player need more time to develop or coaches in a different system say something that finally gets through to said player. Ex Joey bats and De Aza

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
3 years 1 month ago

Or maybe they just need someone to tell them we believe in you, we got your back, now go out and play.

It’s easy to forget baseball is a game of adjustments, and it takes time for some players to figure out how to make those adjustments.

De Aza has got to be the best free talent pick up of the year. He’s really brought a lot to that team. They basically got him off of the discard pile.

3 years 1 month ago

The lesson is it’s his age 27 season and he’s still only put up .9 WAR. He’s a major leaguer. Let’s not go far beyond that.

brewersfan729
3 years 1 month ago

I’m sure Reyes will play better now that Ramirez is gone. That’s flawless logic.

blagblag4488
3 years 1 month ago

Can anyone explain why anyone would suggest this?

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Non-sources tell me that Ramirez lost in a Pog match with Reyes prompting Ramirez to steal all of Reyes’ Pogs and then fed them to the dolphins.

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

I guess the theory is (just me reading into it) that Ramirez was a cancer / bad influence on Reyes and now that he’s gone, Reyes is magically going to return to being a decent player. In the meantime, Reyes is in the midst of a 13-game hitting streak, so he’s already playing better.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

I wish Luke Gregerson would get traded to Phillies…I wonder what it would take.

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

great corner OF or great corner OF prospect.Maybe some pitching?

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Assuming the wont trade May, Biddle, or Brown, I don’t see much there. Pettibone could be a 4/5 next year. I can’t see the Phils having the pieces.

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

And that is why the Phillies-Padres have not talked about a deal.

3 years 1 month ago

Have you bugged their phones?

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

Umm..I was talking about a deal involving Greggerson not Headley and Pence.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

Actually they have been about Headley. Possibly trading Pence for prospects and prospects for Headley according to some “sources”

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

I was talking about a deal involving Greggerson not Pence and headley.

3 years 1 month ago

Why would someone trade a “great” everyday player for a Petco reliever?

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

He asked what the Padres would want. I posted what they need .

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

So the Padres are shopping Gregerson for a OF? Kinda cool, I like Gregerson but we do need a good Outfielder. I’m liking Brynes trying to make moves though, good man

3 years 1 month ago

Murphy is a hitter without a position. He currently plays 2B for the Mets

greengrove
3 years 1 month ago

Hitter without a position or not. I’m sure the mets gm scoffed at that offer. And I’m a padres fan!

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

How do you know they want Murphy as an OF? Yes, he’s played there before, but in the past two years he has played an exact total of one game there.

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

A Middle-Infield of Amarista-Cabrera-Forsythe has worked out quite well if you have been watching Padres games. The padres need a good cornerOF for Rf.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

exactly…they don’t need a 2b right now, outfield help for sure

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

Daniel Murphy has played Outfield a couple of times.If I remember right..hes a 3rd baseman in the minors?I think the Mets have used him at 2nd being blocked by Wright.I can see why byrnes wants him..he is versatile as he has played 1st 2nd 3rd and OF.Why not try to get him.

LifelongMets
3 years 1 month ago

Because he is prone to injure himself at positions he isn’t familiar with. If you saw Murphy on the OF with the Mets, you would know he was totally hopeless out there. Even at 2B, he has torn both ACLs– even with somewhat knowing the position. He is an optimal 3B/1B without injury risk.

wnymetsfan
3 years 1 month ago

Murphy played left field but it was not pretty.

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

I understand that, but those three have a combined two years of MLB service, so that’s a pretty small sample size to definitively say they are the locked in as the Padres MINF’ers of the future. Far from it in my opinion.

Additionally, Murphy hits left handed, which is a detriment for any Padres corner outfielder (if he were to play there). Corner outfielders require power, and we especially need that to supplement Quentin. Nonetheless, if we were to put him out there, why not give Deno a consistent try out there first?

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

As my posts says below v..I wouldnt mind having Murphy on the team in the OF.who cares if hes left handed..We have Denorfia who is right handed.they can platoon

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

I don’t have any question whether you would want Murphy on the Padres as an OF or not. What I’m asking is why wouldn’t you give Deno an opportunity to play out there full time? Statistically they’ve both up similar numbers.

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

As much as i would love for Deno to play in right-field, his numbers show whn they play him everyday that his production goes down.He plays well in the platoon rule.

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

Do you have stats to support that?

Padres4lif3
3 years 1 month ago

Lol is there even such thing as a stat showing a hitter playing everyday/and stats when hes platooning?I watch everygame and you can see when he play many games in a row he cools off.

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

No, but that is my point. When deciding whether a player can produce in an everyday role, the most telling statistics in coming to that decision are what he can do when he receives increased plate appearances and at-bats. Deno is on pace for far more AB’s and PA’s than the average platoon player would accumulate over an entire season, and he has put up very solid numbers in doing so. Because of this, it is somewhat misleading to me that he is only deserving for a time-share role only, and deserves a shot to prove himself as an everyday player.

I understand that he might “cool off” when he plays many games in a row, but that is a slump brother and those are inevitable. The guy is hitting .294/.356/.431 this year while on pace for around 400 AB’s. I think we should see what he can do before possibly trying to acquire a solution externally.

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

Going off major league averages, most everyday starters get between 500-550 AB’s in a full season, so if we’re platooning players, then each individual player in the platoon would receive around 250-275 AB’s per year. Currently Deno has 214 AB’s at the end of July and he’s posting close to a .800 OPS vs. both LHP and RHP. Personally, I think he deserves to be given a shot to win the job outright given his production (if and only if) we are going to go after a player like Murphy for the outfield. To help Deno’s case (as Mickey mentioned above), Murphy is not a plus defender and would be a liability out in Petco’s spacious yard. Deno on the other hand is an above average defensive OF.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

In my opinion they need OF’s and not MINF’ers, Cabby and Amarista are pretty good.

3 years 1 month ago

“The Padres offered to trade Luke Gregerson for Daniel Murphy, but the Mets rejected the possible deal, John Harper of the New York Daily News reports”

That doesn’t make sense for the Padres given the recent emergence of Alexi Amarista, Logan Forsythe and the continued solid play from Everth Cabrera (albeit at short mostly).

There was reported interest in Murphy in the off-season, but now? If so, Josh Byrnes must be smitten with this guy. He’s not a solid defender at second. So, that would lead me to believe they would use him at 3B. Ahem, then what about Jedd Gyorko? I just don’t see that making sense. Stop gap, for what? And I really wanted the Padres to nab Murphy in the off-season. The Quentin extension indicates the Padres are trying to be competitive sooner than later, I hope Josh Byrnes is just not getting ahead of himself here.

Also, the Padres seem to be dealing relievers like it’s their job and they grow on trees.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

Maybe they want to throw him in Right field?

3 years 1 month ago

Considering he hasn’t been playing there at all, and when he did it was in LF and well below avg. I’d say there is no possibility of that. If that were true, it would be a bad decision. He’s been bad in LF, so, he would look terrible in RF.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

Good point, then it is a bid odd.

Thomas Dobbins
3 years 1 month ago

He’s a poor outfielder, an average 3rd baseman and below average at 2nd. The only position he plays where he isn’t a liability is at 1st and he doesn’t hit for enough power to use there or 3rd for that matter.

Beersy
3 years 1 month ago

This rumor does seem a little odd. I’m thinking Harper just found one of his old note pads and figured he’d throw this in for some good reading. Unless Byrnes doesn’t think Gyorko can handle Major League pitching, getting Murphy now makes no sense.

3 years 1 month ago

I was thinking the same, like bull you know what…

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

Have their been any indications that Gyroko can’t handle MLB pitching? that would not be cool

marinest21
3 years 1 month ago

completely agree.

3 years 1 month ago

The Padres have enough hitters without positions. Jesus Guzman comes to mind.

TheReturnOfMrBlanks
3 years 1 month ago

Guzman seems to only hit in the summer time, I’m hoping to regains his formfrom last year and finds some playing time.

LifelongMets
3 years 1 month ago

I thought Jose and Hanley were friends, and were supposed to help each other in hitting.

rsanchez1
3 years 1 month ago

Hitting in MLB The Show, but not on the field.

rsanchez1
3 years 1 month ago

If the asking price for JJ is extremely high, they might as well keep him.

3 years 1 month ago

Even as a Padres fan I dont think that deal was a good one for the Mets.

Rob Lucci
3 years 1 month ago

can gregerson close? if so the Mets should of done this trade.

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

His leadoff skills and current OBP would be nice for the A’s, Dodgers, Giants, and Reds etc.

3 years 1 month ago

That he could get a useful everyday player for a Petco reliever.