NL East Notes: Reyes, Bonifacio, Murphy

The Marlins appear to have set an extremely high asking price for Josh Johnson, Jon Heyman reported today. Here’s the latest on the Marlins and their NL East rivals…


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  1. rainyperez 3 years ago

    Well basically it goes like this. Marlins decide to keep Reyes and Buehrle because if they don’t the fans of the Marlins would burn that ball park down.

    • ASod75 3 years ago

      All five of them.

      • ASod75 3 years ago

        And trust me, I don’t blame them for not going out to see that team. Ownership constantly selling them a bill of goods.

        • rainyperez 3 years ago

          Passan ‘s article, love him or hate him, eloquently called them con artists. This is worse than what A’s owners do to their fan base. Well maybe not worse but its right up there.

          • ASod75 3 years ago

            Yeah, I read the article and I feel bad for their fans. Then again, I’m a Mets fan who lives in Florida. The Mets’ owners are also scam artists so I know the feeling all too well.

    • jwsox 3 years ago

      Whitesox wouldn’t mind buehrle coming back. The marlins eat some money not most but some, for either Nestor Molina or Simon Castro and jarred Mitchell or Jordan danks. Throw in Floyd

      • rainyperez 3 years ago

        Was money the issue with Buehrle coming back or was it his loyalty to Ozzie that prompted to got to Miami? I never really followed that story line and could use some info.

        • robhussle 3 years ago

          Pretty sure it was money motivated.

        • jwsox 3 years ago

          Money and the whitesox had sale who is a better pitcher at this moment ready to take over at a much smaller price tag. There was no bad blood at all about him leaving. The thought was the rotation would be peavy- dank- Floyd- sale- humber. Injuries killed that rotation. If the marlins picked up some of the price tag( they would need to if they wanted to move him, he would be welcomed back with a standing ovation. I see the sox or cards being interested in him

          • rainyperez 3 years ago

            Could possibly see that but I think Marlins don’t want a PR disaster on their hands not that they don’t already.

  2. Baghtru 3 years ago

    Also, Buehrle is cheap this year, next year his contract begins to escalate and he will be traded to the Cardinals at the deadline when the Marlins dump again and the increase in his salary is looming.

  3. johnsilver 3 years ago

    I’d hang onto Bonifacio, right behind Stanton. Plays everywhere, hits and one of the fastest players in either league getting paid chump change. 2 more years of control.

    A team would have to literally dump it’s pockets inside out to get him.

    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 3 years ago

      I think he’s a fun player to watch-it seems like the Marlins started their swift descent when he hit the disabled list. I think he’s a real important part of that team.

  4. mrsjohnmiltonrocks 3 years ago

    I remember when Emilio Bonifacio was trying to break through as a player, way back with the D’backs and then the Nats. Man did he look awful for a few years. He had the noodlest of noodle bats, but he also had magnificent speed. Then Miami gets him, and the same thing-except he starts showing a little bit improvement with every year. Now he’s a spark plug at the top of the line up and I think if he is made available, he’d draw a lot of interest.

    I guess there’s a lesson in there somewhere.

    • rainyperez 3 years ago

      Agreed his value is pretty high right now with 2 more years of control he can net probably 2 very good prospects.

    • jwsox 3 years ago

      The lesson is that some times player need more time to develop or coaches in a different system say something that finally gets through to said player. Ex Joey bats and De Aza

      • mrsjohnmiltonrocks 3 years ago

        Or maybe they just need someone to tell them we believe in you, we got your back, now go out and play.

        It’s easy to forget baseball is a game of adjustments, and it takes time for some players to figure out how to make those adjustments.

        De Aza has got to be the best free talent pick up of the year. He’s really brought a lot to that team. They basically got him off of the discard pile.

    • The lesson is it’s his age 27 season and he’s still only put up .9 WAR. He’s a major leaguer. Let’s not go far beyond that.

  5. brewersfan729 3 years ago

    I’m sure Reyes will play better now that Ramirez is gone. That’s flawless logic.

    • blagblag4488 3 years ago

      Can anyone explain why anyone would suggest this?

      • rainyperez 3 years ago

        Non-sources tell me that Ramirez lost in a Pog match with Reyes prompting Ramirez to steal all of Reyes’ Pogs and then fed them to the dolphins.

      • vtadave 3 years ago

        I guess the theory is (just me reading into it) that Ramirez was a cancer / bad influence on Reyes and now that he’s gone, Reyes is magically going to return to being a decent player. In the meantime, Reyes is in the midst of a 13-game hitting streak, so he’s already playing better.

  6. Dylan 3 years ago

    I wish Luke Gregerson would get traded to Phillies…I wonder what it would take.

    • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

      great corner OF or great corner OF prospect.Maybe some pitching?

      • Dylan 3 years ago

        Assuming the wont trade May, Biddle, or Brown, I don’t see much there. Pettibone could be a 4/5 next year. I can’t see the Phils having the pieces.

        • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

          And that is why the Phillies-Padres have not talked about a deal.

          • Have you bugged their phones?

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            Umm..I was talking about a deal involving Greggerson not Headley and Pence.

          • Dylan 3 years ago

            Actually they have been about Headley. Possibly trading Pence for prospects and prospects for Headley according to some “sources”

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            I was talking about a deal involving Greggerson not Pence and headley.

      • Why would someone trade a “great” everyday player for a Petco reliever?

        • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

          He asked what the Padres would want. I posted what they need .

  7. TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

    So the Padres are shopping Gregerson for a OF? Kinda cool, I like Gregerson but we do need a good Outfielder. I’m liking Brynes trying to make moves though, good man

    • Murphy is a hitter without a position. He currently plays 2B for the Mets

      • greengrove 3 years ago

        Hitter without a position or not. I’m sure the mets gm scoffed at that offer. And I’m a padres fan!

    • marinest21 3 years ago

      How do you know they want Murphy as an OF? Yes, he’s played there before, but in the past two years he has played an exact total of one game there.

      • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

        A Middle-Infield of Amarista-Cabrera-Forsythe has worked out quite well if you have been watching Padres games. The padres need a good cornerOF for Rf.

        • TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

          exactly…they don’t need a 2b right now, outfield help for sure

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            Daniel Murphy has played Outfield a couple of times.If I remember right..hes a 3rd baseman in the minors?I think the Mets have used him at 2nd being blocked by Wright.I can see why byrnes wants him..he is versatile as he has played 1st 2nd 3rd and OF.Why not try to get him.

          • LifelongMets 3 years ago

            Because he is prone to injure himself at positions he isn’t familiar with. If you saw Murphy on the OF with the Mets, you would know he was totally hopeless out there. Even at 2B, he has torn both ACLs– even with somewhat knowing the position. He is an optimal 3B/1B without injury risk.

          • wnymetsfan 3 years ago

            Murphy played left field but it was not pretty.

        • marinest21 3 years ago

          I understand that, but those three have a combined two years of MLB service, so that’s a pretty small sample size to definitively say they are the locked in as the Padres MINF’ers of the future. Far from it in my opinion.

          Additionally, Murphy hits left handed, which is a detriment for any Padres corner outfielder (if he were to play there). Corner outfielders require power, and we especially need that to supplement Quentin. Nonetheless, if we were to put him out there, why not give Deno a consistent try out there first?

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            As my posts says below v..I wouldnt mind having Murphy on the team in the OF.who cares if hes left handed..We have Denorfia who is right handed.they can platoon

          • marinest21 3 years ago

            I don’t have any question whether you would want Murphy on the Padres as an OF or not. What I’m asking is why wouldn’t you give Deno an opportunity to play out there full time? Statistically they’ve both up similar numbers.

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            As much as i would love for Deno to play in right-field, his numbers show whn they play him everyday that his production goes down.He plays well in the platoon rule.

          • marinest21 3 years ago

            Do you have stats to support that?

          • Padres4lif3 3 years ago

            Lol is there even such thing as a stat showing a hitter playing everyday/and stats when hes platooning?I watch everygame and you can see when he play many games in a row he cools off.

          • marinest21 3 years ago

            No, but that is my point. When deciding whether a player can produce in an everyday role, the most telling statistics in coming to that decision are what he can do when he receives increased plate appearances and at-bats. Deno is on pace for far more AB’s and PA’s than the average platoon player would accumulate over an entire season, and he has put up very solid numbers in doing so. Because of this, it is somewhat misleading to me that he is only deserving for a time-share role only, and deserves a shot to prove himself as an everyday player.

            I understand that he might “cool off” when he plays many games in a row, but that is a slump brother and those are inevitable. The guy is hitting .294/.356/.431 this year while on pace for around 400 AB’s. I think we should see what he can do before possibly trying to acquire a solution externally.

          • marinest21 3 years ago

            Going off major league averages, most everyday starters get between 500-550 AB’s in a full season, so if we’re platooning players, then each individual player in the platoon would receive around 250-275 AB’s per year. Currently Deno has 214 AB’s at the end of July and he’s posting close to a .800 OPS vs. both LHP and RHP. Personally, I think he deserves to be given a shot to win the job outright given his production (if and only if) we are going to go after a player like Murphy for the outfield. To help Deno’s case (as Mickey mentioned above), Murphy is not a plus defender and would be a liability out in Petco’s spacious yard. Deno on the other hand is an above average defensive OF.

          • TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

            In my opinion they need OF’s and not MINF’ers, Cabby and Amarista are pretty good.

  8. “The Padres offered to trade Luke Gregerson for Daniel Murphy, but the Mets rejected the possible deal, John Harper of the New York Daily News reports”

    That doesn’t make sense for the Padres given the recent emergence of Alexi Amarista, Logan Forsythe and the continued solid play from Everth Cabrera (albeit at short mostly).

    There was reported interest in Murphy in the off-season, but now? If so, Josh Byrnes must be smitten with this guy. He’s not a solid defender at second. So, that would lead me to believe they would use him at 3B. Ahem, then what about Jedd Gyorko? I just don’t see that making sense. Stop gap, for what? And I really wanted the Padres to nab Murphy in the off-season. The Quentin extension indicates the Padres are trying to be competitive sooner than later, I hope Josh Byrnes is just not getting ahead of himself here.

    Also, the Padres seem to be dealing relievers like it’s their job and they grow on trees.

    • TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

      Maybe they want to throw him in Right field?

      • Considering he hasn’t been playing there at all, and when he did it was in LF and well below avg. I’d say there is no possibility of that. If that were true, it would be a bad decision. He’s been bad in LF, so, he would look terrible in RF.

      • Thomas Dobbins 3 years ago

        He’s a poor outfielder, an average 3rd baseman and below average at 2nd. The only position he plays where he isn’t a liability is at 1st and he doesn’t hit for enough power to use there or 3rd for that matter.

    • Beersy 3 years ago

      This rumor does seem a little odd. I’m thinking Harper just found one of his old note pads and figured he’d throw this in for some good reading. Unless Byrnes doesn’t think Gyorko can handle Major League pitching, getting Murphy now makes no sense.

  9. The Padres have enough hitters without positions. Jesus Guzman comes to mind.

    • TheReturnOfMrBlanks 3 years ago

      Guzman seems to only hit in the summer time, I’m hoping to regains his formfrom last year and finds some playing time.

  10. LifelongMets 3 years ago

    I thought Jose and Hanley were friends, and were supposed to help each other in hitting.

    • rsanchez1 3 years ago

      Hitting in MLB The Show, but not on the field.

  11. rsanchez1 3 years ago

    If the asking price for JJ is extremely high, they might as well keep him.

  12. Even as a Padres fan I dont think that deal was a good one for the Mets.

  13. Rob Lucci 3 years ago

    can gregerson close? if so the Mets should of done this trade.

  14. rainyperez 3 years ago

    His leadoff skills and current OBP would be nice for the A’s, Dodgers, Giants, and Reds etc.

  15. That he could get a useful everyday player for a Petco reliever.

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