Olney On Royals, Red Sox, Dempster

The Royals' rotation has a 5.42 ERA with 6.8 K/9 and 3.7 BB/9 this year, and they're averaging barely five innings per start. As ESPN.com’s Buster Olney explains, the Royals are perusing the market for starting pitchers who could help now and in the future. Here are the details:

  • The Royals have indicated to other teams that they believe they’re about two years away from being serious contenders. They’re looking for starters who could be obtained now and kept for a couple more seasons.
  • The Red Sox are also more interested in adding long-term pieces than two-month rentals, Olney writes. While there’s no indication the Red Sox are willing to trade Jon Lester, some wonder whether the left-hander would benefit from a change of scenery.
  • One GM suggested Ryan Dempster would be better off avoiding trades to American League teams this summer. Dempster, a lifelong National Leaguer, can veto any trade. An agent agreed that Dempster would be better off in a pitcher-friendly environment. "If he gets hit hard, it'll cost him," the agent told Olney. The Dodgers are viewed as the favorites to acquire Dempster, who will hit free agency after the season.
  • Olney suggests Nate Schierholtz could be a nice addition for the Yankees. The Giants outfielder has said he’d be open to a trade.


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43 Comments on "Olney On Royals, Red Sox, Dempster"


ray1
3 years 1 month ago

I believe Dempster will be traded today.

3 years 1 month ago

I think he will go soon, not sure about today.

Dan Smith
3 years 1 month ago

where do u think he is going?

haymaker9
3 years 1 month ago

Dodgers seem to make the most sense, but I wouldn’t rule out a surprise trade to the Angels for Peter Bourjos. Theo would then have the option to trade Bourjos in the off-season for some young pitching if he wanted to.

ray1
3 years 1 month ago

Not a big Bourjos fan.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

Funny, because people here were tearing me apart in the offseason when I said the Angels should trade bourjos, since they really didn’t have a roster spot for him.

JoeCroninAndRonSanto
3 years 1 month ago

I agree he is not even close to a player who is untouchable. Angels just want him as a back up plan for hunter and wells, on the cheap.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

For sure, he had decent value after last year though, this year he really isn’t hitting. I just am not a fan of having rookies sitting on the bench, either send them down to save service time and daily playing, bring them up and play them, or figure out a trade.

JoeCroninAndRonSanto
3 years 1 month ago

He was my 4th OF and go to guy off the bench when i needed stolen bases last year in fantasy. Defiantly agree, rookies need to nurtured into potential stars…kind of like how the Angels waited on Trumbo got textiera, and then allowed his power to maximize in AAA. It went from 15 to 36.

cubs223425
3 years 1 month ago

What sense does a trade to the Dodgers really make? Their top prospects (Lee and Eovaldi) have pitched really poorly this season. Lee’s been crap, giving up a lot of homers at high-A and pitching very erratically (4.61 BB/9) at AA, albeit in 4 starts. Eovaldi’s strikeouts (which weren’t elite to being with) have gone out the window. Truthfully, I’m not crazy about anyone that they have to offer.

haymaker9
3 years 1 month ago

Interesting. I’m not a fan/follower of either the Cubs or Dodgers. Dempster makes sense for LA… but maybe not on the Cubs end. I’m sure Theo is weighing the various returns right now to see what he feels is the best fit. The Dodgers could surely offer to take on Dempster’s remaining salary to lessen the return, but don’t think that’s what the Cubs want. They want prospects, which is why I suggested the Angels as a possible surprise trade partner.

cgriffith
3 years 1 month ago

The Dodgers

BD
3 years 1 month ago

I agree, I think it will be before his scheduled start tomorrow.

Koby2
3 years 1 month ago

The front office has been saying 2 years the last 4 years, it’s time for them to get off the pot.

Otis26
3 years 1 month ago

No they haven’t. Why don’t you provide me a link to any single article ever published where anyone from the Royals set a timeline on being competitive. I won’t hold my breath because they have never done so. If you’re talking about ‘Mission 2012′ – that was started by Mellinger and the Royals NEVER endorsed that. This is the kind of garbage that comes from Royals fans who are simply ignorant of the facts and want to spew.

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Well lets look at it this way the Royals haven’t been relevant since the 80’s so yeah I think the Royals fan base has a right to say what they want.

haymaker9
3 years 1 month ago

I think the best the Royals could do (outside of a Greinke reunion) for next season’s rotation would be to trade for Garza and Wandy, then add Marcum as a FA in the off-season. Then they’d have a rotation of Marcum/Garza/Wandy/Hochevar/Chen, which would at least keep them in most games.

Koby2
3 years 1 month ago

We also should be getting Paulino and Duffy back from Tommy John surgery, plus Odorizzi could be up this year. Marcum worries me a bit, I can’t quite place it but I get the feeling he could be in line for a long DL trip sometime. If we got Garza and Wandy, Odorizzi turns into a competent starter, and Duffy and Paulino come back to form, we could be in good shape.

schellis
3 years 1 month ago

I’m glad that there are agents around that are willing to offer up trade secrets. Who would have guessed that if Ryan Dempster were to go to a hitters park and get hit hard that it would cost him dollars. Next we’ll learn that if Josh Hamilton is traded to the Padres and hits .240 with 5 homers the rest of the way it will cost him in the free agent market.

If Dempster were to go to a team played a hitters park and pitched well it would help him more then him pitching poorly in sad park would hurt him.

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Well unless Wrigley Field, Miller Park, and Cincinnati aren’t hitter’s parks anymore I fail to see why he wouldn’t be able to pitch in the AL East in those parks.

cgriffith
3 years 1 month ago

Dempster will be a Dodger before the weekend, and the Tigers will trade for Wandy

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 1 month ago

“While there’s no indication the Red Sox are willing to trade Jon Lester, some wonder whether the left-hander would benefit from a change of scenery.” Just my opinion but it seems like a lot of players that leave Boston benefit from the change of scenery,

Chris Alfieri
3 years 1 month ago

who besides youk ?

East Coast Bias
3 years 1 month ago

Jed Lowrie and Josh Reddick come to mind. Youk definitely. I would say Scutaro, but he was playing decent in Boston too and I don’t really know why they traded him.

Josh Marion
3 years 1 month ago

Lowrie had a horrible injury history while he was with the Sox, but he produced when he was on the field. Josh Reddick is a VERY streaky bat who never saw significant playing time in Boston and therefore was never able to get in a rhythm.

The only players who leave Boston that benefit from a change of scenery are USUALLY pitchers who migrate from the AL to the NL (which has been proven to be pretty true league-wide)….and Edgar Renteria.

melonis_rex
3 years 1 month ago

And players hitting better in full time duty than part time duty is not a new phenomenon at all, especially younger ones, nor are breakout seasons by young players.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Eh, Lowrie was always this good, he just never stayed healthy long enough to put a decent month together (and, surprise, he’s out several weeks again now), and Scutaro played way better in Boston than he has in Colorado.

3 years 1 month ago

Like who lol? Julio Lugo sucked in Boston and still did after, Manny? Downhill.
It’s the other way around players that come to Boston a lot of times revive there career! Just like a lot of players that go to NY. Mike Lowell? He was a washed up throw in in the Beckett deal and went to World Series MVP. Damon stayed the same after he left, was still good! Jason Bay? Horrible after leaving Boston. Paplebon? He’s basically been the same.
I mean there’s always gonna be some players that just don’t perform well with a new team! Coco crisp didn’t, Pavono for the Yankees as well. It happens

Ben_Cherington
3 years 1 month ago

Cody Ross completely agrees with you

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Youkilis, and maybe Reddick, but I can’t think of anyone else. And there are a bunch of examples of guys who played better in Boston than they did before and/or after playing in Boston.

There are also a bunch of guys who played better after leaving New York, and I’d venture a guess that the same is true of pretty much every team. It just happens some times.

Jack Hillyard
3 years 1 month ago

Typical Royals…it’s always two years away.

Otis26
3 years 1 month ago

Not at all.
Please provide a link to any single article where anyone in the Royals organization ever said that.
You won’t find any.
Just more meaningless commentary from an uniformed fan.

Septhinox
3 years 1 month ago

Why would the Yankees be interested in Nate Schierholtz? He’s another left handed platoon bat that can only play RF.

3 years 1 month ago

two years away in kc for the past 27 yrs…and chiefs are what?…ohhh this is the year! every year!….kc sports organizations have no respect for some of the best fans in the country….we keep hoping and believing..they keep upping prices and deceiving!

rainyperez
3 years 1 month ago

Schierholtz would do damage to that right field porch over at Yankee stadium after watching him hit some monster shots to RF in various stadiums. He also has a plus-plus arm and his D isn’t too shabby. My question for Yankees fan what sort of relievers are in the farm system? Obviously not an A prospect.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

The yankees don’t really have any quality relievers in their farm. They usually find relievers on scrap heaps or convert a starter.

ioftenpanic
3 years 1 month ago

Does one of Webster, Reed or Gould from LAD make sense for Dempster? Too much? Too little? The Cubs want young arms that are 1-3 years away and the Dodgers seem to have 3-4 guys who project as potential #2-#4 starters. Seems to make sense.

EightMileCats
3 years 1 month ago

If Lester were available, I’d like to take a look. He’d slot in nice behind JV.
That being said, I don’t believe he’s available. I think Olney is taking out his hind parts here

BetweenNames
3 years 1 month ago

The Royals just lied again; it’s not going to take two years… The Royals just made a major move and resigned Jason Kendall! No way we can be stopped now!

3 years 1 month ago

I wonder if the Phillies would bite on Lester for Hamels seeing as Lester is signed on the cheap for the next few years. I know Lester is perhaps a notch below Hamels but the fact that Lester is cost controlled for a couple more years makes a straight up trade seem fathomable.

LazerTown
3 years 1 month ago

But would the sox actually take that. Lester is having a rough year, but in any other year he would fit nicely in the #2 slot in the rotation. To me he isn’t quite an ace, but a solid #2.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

I doubt the Red Sox would do that. Lester hasn’t been himself since September of last year (less than a year), but when he’s on he’s at least as good as Hamels and is way way cheaper than Hamels. If Hamels weren’t going to be looking for a Sabathia type deal next year, and the Phillies added a good prospect or two maybe, maybe, but definitely not one for one.

Lester is actually pitching as well as, or better than, he pitched in 2008 (his FIP is only 4 points higher, and his xFIP and SIERA are both 40 points lower), the problem is his BABIP is 30 points higher than his career average, his LOB% is 10% lower, and his HR/FB is 2% higher.

Red_Line_9
3 years 1 month ago

The Royals are some starting pitching away from contending right now. There’s no reason had a few pitchers stayed healthy and they’d have gone out last winter for a little help that they wouldn’t look very similar to the Pirates right now.