Rays May Be Willing To Trade Shields

The Rays are suggesting to other teams that they will listen to trade offers for right-hander James Shields, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports. Rival teams have heard that the Rays intend to decide on a course of action after their upcoming home series against the Indians and Mariners, Knobler writes.

The Rays, now 46-43, have told teams they still expect to contend for the playoffs this year. The Tigers could have interest in Shields, Knobler suggests. Opposing scouts believe Shields has become frustrated and would pitch better in another environment, according to Knobler.  

There’s no doubt that many teams would have interest in Shields given his age, durability and contract status. The 30-year-old earns $7MM in 2012 and his contract includes club options for 2013 ($9MM with a $1.5MM buyout) and 2014 ($12MM with a $1MM buyout). Shields, the third-place finisher in last year's AL Cy Young voting, has completed at least 200 innings in every one of his five full seasons. He has a 4.44 ERA with 8.3 K/9 and 4.4 BB/9 in 123 2/3 innings so far in 2012. 

The Rays’ rotation currently includes Shields, David Price, Matt Moore, Jeremy Hellickson and Alex Cobb. Jeff Niemann, on the disabled list with a fractured fibula, and Chris Archer, now in the minor leagues, provide Tampa Bay with a pair of additional options.

MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes recently discussed trade candidates who could eventually be tied to draft pick compensation. Shields could net a compensatory draft choice following a trade, as long as the acquiring team exercises his 2013 option. For more on potentially available starting pitchers click here.


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71 Comments on "Rays May Be Willing To Trade Shields"


dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

They should be able to get a couple really good prospects for him. I would think they would target a catcher and a 1B for him. Reds probably could have had him for the same deal as Latos.

Jeff
3 years 1 month ago

 How about this:  Hinske, Gattis, and Hanson or Teheran for Shields.

dylanp5030
3 years 1 month ago

They won’t want Hinske. Gattis is putting up good numbers but is old for the league. Hanson Or Teheran is nice but they’d want the centerpiece to be a C or 1B, not a pitcher

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

Eric Hinske?

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

should have been able to get*

too late now. the time to trade him was this offseason

brewersfan729
3 years 1 month ago

He has 2.7 BB/9, not 4.4.

verlander
3 years 1 month ago

I’d do this in a heartbeat.

EightMileCats
3 years 1 month ago

 That’d look great going down the stretch.  A 1/2 of JV/Shields would be nice

3 years 1 month ago

While I’m glad we traded for Latos over Shields, I will say that if we offered TB the same package and they declined, they have to be kicking theirselves right now. Grandal and Alonso would for sure be a boost for them offensively.

RiverKKiller999
3 years 1 month ago

An interesting pitcher to go after but yet an incosistent one too.

JaysGLawrie
3 years 1 month ago

que???

alexw2840
3 years 1 month ago

He’s still a work-horse that can lead a staff when hot. A change of scenery may be just what he needs. Depending on a stagnant Rays offense every start is very frustrating. 

3 years 1 month ago

His ERA has been inconsistent, but he’s very consistent if you look at his DIPs stats.  Over the past six years, other than last year’s 3.42, his FIP has been between 3.82-4.24 and he has thrown 200+ innings every season. 

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

Inconsistent?

On his way to sixth straight season of 31+ starts.
Consistent xFIP, BB and K rates…

Honestly, isn’t he one of the MORE consistent guys around?

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

He isn’t nearly as inconsistent as his ERA would suggest, but he’s hardly one of the more consistent guys around.  His xFIP has swung 75 points, his FIP and SIERA have both swung ~100 points, his BB/9 has swung more than a full walk, and his K/9 has swung more than 1.5 Ks.

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

And Verlander’s has swung 158 points.  Take the last 3 years of Shields and you have 3.55, 3.25, and this year 3.47. Walks are up a little, but so are his strikeouts. Ground balls are way up and he’s been a little unlucky on balls in play given that his line drive rate is within his career norms. Just check out the metrics on the TB infield defense. Other than Pena, brutal.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

I don’t know what Verlander has to do with anything, first of all.  And I never said he was inconsistent (in fact, I specifically said he wasn’t nearly as inconsistent as his ERA would suggest), he’s just not one of the more consistent guys around.  His peripherals aren’t any less consistent than the next guys, but they aren’t really any more consistent either, he’s just “normal.”

The “more consistent guys” would be guys like Sabathia whose FIP, xFIP, and SIERA have all only fluctuated ~50 points over the last 7 years.

notsureifsrs
3 years 1 month ago

FIP- (100 is league average), 2012-2009

100
89
106
95

ERA- (100 is league average), 2012-2009

115
72
131
97

SIERA, 2012-2009

3.49
3.29
3.57
3.99

tERA, 2012-2009

4.05
3.47
4.32
4.18

Guest
3 years 1 month ago

Given there need for 1B and C, how about a trade to Atlanta including catcher Chris Bethancourt or a trade to Anaheim including 1B C.J Cron or a guy like Jean Segura. This also probably means they will be willing to shop around B.J Upton.

3 years 1 month ago

I think Shields could put up some good numbers in Atlanta. Another thing people gotta see is his numbers are bound to improve getting out of the AL East.

Guest
3 years 1 month ago

Great point. A ton of people say he won’t net much of a return compared to last year which is 100% true, but this guy is AL East proven, 2+ years of control for a fair amount of money, and like you said his numbers will improve pitching in the NL facing a pitcher. I think he is a good fit for Atlanta given there starting pitching needs.

3 years 1 month ago

Well said.

3 years 1 month ago

I don’t want him to go to the Braves.  I am a Braves fan, and for all the talk about him being better against the NL, well in 26 career starts against the NL, he has a 4.29 ERA

Take out the 14 games he has pitched against weaker teams (Marlins, Astros, Mets) the past few years, then it is 12 games against better NL teams with a 5.652 ERA

cookmeister
3 years 1 month ago

i could see the angels in on shields.  something around Cron or maybe Conger + might get it done

HenryLear
3 years 1 month ago

Why would he be frustrated? Hes best friends with David Price and doesnt dislike anyone on the team, hes pitching on a pretty good team, nice area, with little pressure.

3 years 1 month ago

 I think they mean frustrated by his performance.

Randy Wiseman
3 years 1 month ago

they be lucky to get drew stubbs now though

TophersReds
3 years 1 month ago

Did I hear Drew Stubbs for James Shields? Who do I call?

vtadave
3 years 1 month ago

Lucky? How so?

baseballdude
3 years 1 month ago

I would be willing to do turner and brantly for shields.

swing1
3 years 1 month ago

Under a reasonable team control til 2014? Blue Jays HAVE to go after him. No excuses. This isn’t a 20 million dollar sucker punch contract to the team. 

Jacob Viets
3 years 1 month ago

No way he’s traded to the Blue Jays. Tampa doesn’t do trades within their division.

bjfan
3 years 1 month ago

If the Jays offer the Rays what they need, they won’t care about trading in their division.  If the Jays were willing to trade Halladay in their own division, I am sure the Rays can part with Shields.  JPA and Adam Lind.

Dynasty22
3 years 1 month ago

Are you suggesting J.P and Lind for Shields?

tomymogo
3 years 1 month ago

Braves should be a favorite

Jeff
3 years 1 month ago

What would it take to get him? At least Teheran I’m sure.

 Should be give them Hanson for Shields as a win now move?

22deputydo33
3 years 1 month ago

i think the rays ought to hold on to james shields. they will eventually overtake the orioles and be one of the wild card teams at the end of the season. they might be having a tough tme now,but i think they will right their ship.

3 years 1 month ago

You need to get ahold of yourself.
“You’ve got to be able to handle your own intensity!”
How can you say this? Especially with Longoria all busted up?
O’s get to the playoffs by default this year. :p

alexw2840
3 years 1 month ago

They’re not giving up lol……I can assure you

diesel2410
3 years 1 month ago

Rays need a bat or a catcher/shortstop. If you don’t have any, you aren’t getting Shields

3 years 1 month ago

Should have done it last season when his value soared. They’ll be offered almost half of what they were offered then.

1980CHAMPS
3 years 1 month ago

This time last year most rational baseball fans and insiders would have known the Rays could’ve got a kings ransom for Shields.  They instead hold on him and 12 months later are going to get a small fraction in return.  
Andrew Friedman is, imo, the best GM in baseball but he really dropped the ball with this one.

John Stefan
3 years 1 month ago

 Hindsight has perfect 20/20 vision

CubsFan5
3 years 1 month ago

His value was very very high last season, was there a chance he could improve on that, but what are the chances of it happening. Instead he regressed and lost that value. Hindsight may be 20/20, but at some point you have to realize that it’s going to be very difficult to beat that years stat line. 

DewayneStats
3 years 1 month ago

I don’t think anyone in their right mind (and Friedman is by all accounts in his right mind) expected Shields to repeat last year’s performance. 

What he was expecting, in my opinion, is for the Rays to field one of the best teams they have ever had this season, and make a real shot at winning another pennant and getting to the WS. Having even half of what Shields was last season should have been a huge factor in that push, but all of the unexpected injuries and general stroke of bad luck has derailed that plan to some extent. 

alexw2840
3 years 1 month ago

Exactly. Spot on.

txftw
3 years 1 month ago

Since the Rangers are in on everyone and targeted him last year, they probably have interest

alexw2840
3 years 1 month ago

I’d prefer he go to an NL club.

3 years 1 month ago

Tigers:  Turner, Brantly and a low-level guy would probably get it done.  Dare I say Porcello could be offered instead of Turner?  As a Tigers fan I would be OK with this.  Always a big fan of Shields.  Contract looks manageable for a #2 type guy.

alexw2840
3 years 1 month ago

My gut instinct tells me Friedman is looking for big bats, so I would toss Turner out of the deal and Brantly doesn’t have a lot of pop.

EightMileCats
3 years 1 month ago

 If that were what it’d take, I’d jump in on that in a heartbeat. 
Don’t get me wrong, I still think Porcello/Turner are going to grow into 2-3 type pitchers.  Solid middle of the rotation guys.  But if I could get Shields behind JV and in front of Fister/Smyly/Scherzer.  All day.  It’d be a scary rotation

Justin
3 years 1 month ago

I could see the cardinals interfere

12in12
3 years 1 month ago

 What would you suggest the Redbirds offer for Shields?

stl_cards16
3 years 1 month ago

It’d be tough because I don’t think they’d include Taveras or Wong for different reasons.  They would probably include Miller this year, but that’s probably selling low on a very young pitcher who is still striking out a lot of people at a level he’s even a little young for.  Cox is expendable, but they have Longoria so not sure they’d be interested in him.

I would do something like Shelby Miller, Matt Adams, and Jordan Swagerty….really don’t know how close that would be.

Edit: Looking again, I doubt that’d be enough. maybe add in a live bullpen arm like Sanchez