Astros To Scout Clemens’ Next Start

The Astros plan to scout Roger Clemens' upcoming start for the independent league Sugar Land Skeeters on September 7th, General Manager Jeff Luhnow told Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (story by Danny Knobler).  Knobler writes that the strong speculation in baseball is that if Clemens pitches well, he will then pitch for the Astros five days later, on September 12 versus the Cubs.

The 50-year-old hurler last pitched in the majors in 2007 for the Yankees and can likely delay his Hall of Fame eligibility for another five years if he returns to the big leagues with Houston.  While the Astros have been linked to Clemens recently, the Rangers and Royals are reportedly not interested in his services.


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wickedkevin
3 years 2 days ago

5 more years! 5 more years!

3 years 2 days ago

clemens only wants to pitch in the majors to reset his hof waiting period. he is hoping in 5 years people will be more lenient and let him into the hof

johnsilver
3 years 2 days ago

Is Weiand back from shoulder surgery yet? even a Eiand rehabbing would be better for seeing how he would project next year than Clemens, unless houston is just trying to push casual fans into the seats…

withpower
3 years 2 days ago

Hopefully the Cubs shell him, the game doesn’t sell out, and in 5 years he still doesn’t get the vote.

largefarva
3 years 2 days ago

That would be epic. Truly epic.

3 years 2 days ago

As a Cubs fan, I can assure you it is extremely unlikely we shell anyone.

DerekJeterDan
3 years 2 days ago

No harm no foul. Nothing to lose for Houston at this point and it gives people a reason to watch an Astros vs Cubs game. Never thought I’d be saying that…

alex
3 years 2 days ago

can someone explain to me why he would want to delay his hof elegibility, i dont get it, surely he wants to be in as quick as possible

tapehead4
3 years 2 days ago

Time heals all wounds, or so Mr. Clemens likely believes.

melonis_rex
3 years 1 day ago

He won’t be in quickly, if at all, because of the steroid scandal, but his stats are definitely HOF-worthy.

He almost definitely has a far bigger chance of getting in after all the steroid fiasco has calmed down in a few years. (Of course, it was starting to calm down this year, before there was the Braun scandal and three PED suspensions. Oh, and a fake website).

Brian Jud
3 years 2 days ago

I can see this as a Kenny Powers situation in Clemens’ mind.

“Eastbound and Down” SPOILER ALERT:

Kenny made it back to the majors in the last episode of the show, but subsequently quit because he only wanted to prove to himself and to others that he could. I can totally see why Clemens would want to simply make it back to the majors then ride off into the sunset again.

TrollinPowell
3 years 2 days ago

How the hell does Clemens get another chance but Barry Bonds got forced into retirement?

Brian Jud
3 years 2 days ago

You’re right, it’s definitely a little unfair for Bonds. Lots of politics for sure.

A baseball reason I can think of would be that it seems easier for a retired pitcher to come back than a retired hitter. Hitters need to get their timing back down, and it’s damn near impossible just to get up off the couch and face a major league pitcher. It’s probably still really hard for a pitcher, but at least they don’t have to react to anybody else since they’re in a sense controlling the at-bat.

rainyperez
3 years 2 days ago

Yeah it’s a shame what happened to Bonds after 2007. I’m sure in 2008 he would’ve been a valuable DH or a below competent LFer for somebody. His bat would’ve made up for whatever defensive lapses he would’ve had. I would love to see what kind of damage he could’ve done if he DH’d in the AL East.

vtadave
3 years 2 days ago

Brought it all on himself with his boorish behaviour unfortunately.

Homeruntrot
3 years 2 days ago

Agreed

rainyperez
3 years 2 days ago

But someone like Manny Ramirez who got caught twice for PEDs and his attitude on the field is allowed to play? Big double standard there.

3 years 2 days ago

Bonds has been black balled his whole carreer. I thought that the witch hunt called the Mitchell Report was bad enough… Poor guy got a raw deal.

philly_red
3 years 1 day ago

… “poor” guy?!

Gumby65
3 years 2 days ago

Not pro-either one of these guys, but Clemens got cleared and signed on to an indy team and is friends with the owner of a going-nowhere (sorry, truth ATM) franchise. Bonds has been cleared and hasn’t expressed any interest to do anything as a baseball player. Oh, I almost forgot, without PED’s, Clemens can be “deceptively crafty”. No such alternative role for over-the-hill power hitters.

ellisburks
3 years 2 days ago

Bonds was not cleared he was found guilty. He did take steroids and admitted it. Clemens has never admitted it, was never proven to take steroids and was cleared of the charges against him.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 days ago

I thought he was found not guilty but guilty of obstruction of justice?

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 days ago

steroids didn’t turn barry bonds in to the best hitter in the majors, it aided it him, but to what degree no one will ever know.

The reality is though, that PEDs, will never turn a 10 HR hitter into a 40 HR hitter, John Macdonald in to Adam Dunn. So while I hate PEDs in baseball like everyone else, I think the notion that Barry Bonds was ONLY good because he was a juicer is ridiculous. at that time A LOT of players were juicing and there was only one Barry Bonds.

Gumby65
3 years 2 days ago

“it aided it him, but to what degree no one will ever know.”
Yep we are all idiots, and we will never know what McGwire and Bonds know, touche’ for you sir..

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 days ago

Huh? I didn’t call you or anyone an idiot. I’m merely just saying that PEDs are not magic baseball pills, if you or myself took the best peds in the world we wouldnt be a good baseball player.

even mcgwire and bonds really have no clue how good or how bad they would have been without the steroids.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 days ago

you don’t get it, i wasn’t putting anyone down

mcgwire and bonds don’t know how they would have performed off the juice. but the reality is they were both talented players before steroids, in barry’s case he was extremely talented and its possible steroids made a very miniscule difference. It doesn’t change anything at all but ya/

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 2 days ago

Speculation obviously but I doubt McGwire could’ve stayed healthy without PEDs long enough to establish himself as a borderline hall of famer.

I agree with you though. PEDs aren’t going to turn Freddy Galvis into Alex Rodriguez. It’s a shame we’ll never know the kind of player Barry Bonds ultimately would’ve been without them. (Obviously a hall of famer but records wise and all that stuff).

MoCrash
3 years 2 days ago

Maybe so on McGwire, but would Koufax have pitched 650+ innings in 1965-66 with an already damaged elbow without steroids and cortisone? Of course, they weren’t banned by MLB at that time — neither was andro while McGwire was active — but for some reason the standards have shifted.

3 years 1 day ago

steroids turned arod int arod

vtadave
3 years 2 days ago

Brady Anderson disagrees with your sentence beginning with “The reality”. Kidding, as I do agree.

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 days ago

not to be snarky, but was anderson ever really suspected of peds besides his one year anomaly? why would he get off of them the following year?

rainyperez
3 years 2 days ago

Agreed. McGwire would never be Bonds even if he tried. The most craziest stat I’ve seen is this.

“There were 415 pitchers against whom Barry Bonds went hitless. Against those pitchers, he posted a .331 OBP.”

I just lol every time I read that.

Red_Line_9
3 years 1 day ago

The real trajedy of PED’s is it turns AAA players into MLB players and robs clean players of a chance at a major league paycheck.

rainyperez
3 years 1 day ago

No, this is a faulty argument because in the end there is not a direct correlation or exact study that proves that PED’s can do this.

Red_Line_9
3 years 1 day ago

You could be right…but it certainly blurs the line of intregrity…there really should be no way to measure a baseball player except on pure talent….and PED’s have made that less possible.

rainyperez
3 years 1 day ago

Well unfortunately baseball because of its hallowed records will always be the poster child for steroids.

The thing I don’t like about the way the Hall of Fame voters vote is that they believe the hall is clean when it isn’t. You had Hall of Famers in the ’60s and ’70s using greenies or other now banned substances. You had Gaylord Perry using the spitball. There are players that had huge off field issues that have done worse than Pete Rose. But alas the voters are on their high horse saying it was cheating. To me thats claiming ignorance. There was cheating in this sport since the inception of the baseball.

Anyway…

In my opinion its prevalent in all sports but the most emphasis is placed on my favorite sport of them all.

3 years 1 day ago

nonsense, look at the 90’s players, Jay bell, Brady Anderson, I could go on but steroids do turn bad into avg and sometimes great. WAKE UP

notsureifsrs
3 years 2 days ago

this isn’t about baseball or love of the game. this is about money and vanity. money for the astros, vanity for clemens

i hope the cubs light him up and he tests positive for PEDs after the game

Lunchbox45
3 years 2 days ago

Is there any illegal substances in centrum silver?

Gumby65
3 years 2 days ago

Proper term for this visit “Mere Formality”.

Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
3 years 2 days ago

Kirk Gibson is “Not Impressed!”

vtadave
3 years 2 days ago

Neither is Makayla Maroney.

3 years 2 days ago

Here, take my upvotes.

Anthony Cunningham
3 years 2 days ago

Clemens looked really fat, something like a egg with porky legs. He’s not in major league shape, which isn’t to say that he couldn’t throw his curveballs and fastball for an inning and perhaps get away with it.

randomkeys
3 years 2 days ago

All he has to throw is one pitch, and his Hall Of Fame clock gets reset.

I am not alone in the opinion that Clemens probably thinks that a Hall Of Fame ballot that runs from 2018-2033 will give him a better shot at election than one from 2013-2028.

And honestly, I’d agree with him. The longer he waits, the weaker the sting of his connection to steroids. It’ll always be there (that sting), but time heals everything. The question is — will this heal enough by 2033 to get him into the Hall?

Jwick22
3 years 2 days ago

Still not happening then either i dont think. But for sure worth a try for him to do it.

3 years 2 days ago

Yes, because the moment Bonds gets in the door is open for Clemens — and Bonds as one of the two best hitters in MLB history by total WAR and a Hall of Famer even before 2000 won’t be left out forever.

3 years 2 days ago

“can likely delay his Hall of Fame eligibility for another five years”…. in today’s America, as the author suggests, Clemens wants to delay his HOF vote for 5 years (maybe enough time for the suspicions to blow over).

iheartyourfart
3 years 2 days ago

I hope he comes back, injects HGH on the mound, throws an eephus pitch, flips the bird to bud selig and then yells out “WU-TANG.”

marinest21
3 years 2 days ago

This. Is. Absolutely Incredible.

3 years 1 day ago

Pretty sure he would yell ” “Toby Keith”.

Eric Foley
3 years 2 days ago

The Astros are just trying to put people in their seat in that huge stadium! What a joke!

soxfan123123
3 years 2 days ago

I’ll trade Gordon Beckham and a prospect for Jose Altuve straight up!

MadmanTX
3 years 2 days ago

Next, the Astros will be scouting Oil Can Boyd, Sidney Ponson & whatever semi-pro team the Canseco brothers play for now.

Oh, wait…just Houston sports legends? Then maybe Earl Campbell, Gordie Howe and Joe Sambito are available?

Travis Graham
3 years 1 day ago

Dear Astros,

STOP IT!

Sincerely,
The Fans

Red_Line_9
3 years 1 day ago

Incredible. The chance to see one of the greatest pitchers to ever take the mound…once again. What’s it going to take to fire Jim Palmer back up?
Somewhere in the middle is the realism that Clemens was an incredible pitcher regardless of any substance he took….and eventually that is what will take hold in future generations. It’s just too bad his reputation will have to overcome the here and now…and that’s the really sad thing…..HGH has overshadowed Clemens just due.

3 years 1 day ago

gooden s auditioning for any NY team