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Jim McGrath
Blockbuster Trade: Masterson, Perez, Santana, Choo and Kipnis to the Sox for Pedroia, Bailey, Ranaudo, Lackey, Salty and Ellsbury.
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Tko11
I get it “mad” mc44
johnsilver
It’s a “mad, mad, mad, world”, Though even after watching that old movie 10x times? Cherrignton wouldn’t give up Pedroia alone for that package.. Nice try however..
Masterson to Boston? Possibly, For prospects? Most likely, but Francona is going to need a chance to win a few games to keep him interested and moving his best SP wouldn’t help things much.
Rangersalchamps
Yeah Kipnis>Pedroia. Pedroia is the 8th ranked 2nd bagger in 2012. Kipnis is younger and plays games without a huge wall to knock doubles off of.
johnsilver
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Dom 2
How about Choo and Perez for Duda and Dickey or Niese (and maybe a second-tier minor leaguer)? Not sure that the Mets could afford it, but both players are destined to be traded (it seems), and I’m sure that those players would be of some interest to Cleveland. Meh. Doesn’t sound as good for the Mets now that I typed it…
Lunchbox45
Has Choo’s value dropped that much?
Dom 2
I get you. I think that Choo is a good (but not superstar) player, but he’s going to require a lot of money after 2013. He’s not as valuable as Niese (esp. with the control that comes with him) or the ace Dickey, but add that difference to Duda and a second-tier minor leaguer, and it should be worth the Wagner-like-mouthed Perez. This would put the Mets in an instant position to sign Wright and Dickey (assuming it was Niese traded) for longer contracts, as it doesn’t break the bank and hopefully shows enough of a desire to win soon. It also gives a great deal more to the Cleveland rotation and a lot of options in the line-up with Duda. Maybe?
norcalguardiansfan
Choo’s value has dropped, some, but Lunchbox is just doing the trade from the Mets’ perspective.
The Indians have no interest in any player they can’t control for at least, say, four years. That means Dickey is out even if he had a good year. Duda is interesting but his is a left handed hitter with ok power. The Indians want a controllable right handed hitter.
Niese, on the other hand, is very interesting. He has a team friendly contract and started almost 90 games over the last three years. If the Mets want to trade him, I would think the Indians would be very interested.
metsfan08
Niese for santana?
$6592481
that wont happen. Santana is young and so very talented. He’s a guy the Indians need to keep. Plus Marson isn’t a starter. He’s a great backup catcher, but not a starter.
Alex Hale
that makes no sense whatsoever. the Indians signed Santana to a long term deal where he is the leader of that offense. you got a better shot at Choo, but even that I doubt with the lack of minor league talent. you would need to give up Zack Wheeler.
Lunchbox45
Indians are at an interesting spot.
if they didn’t hire tito i would have thought a re build would be in order.. but its hard to imagine that they plan to do that and him still agreeing to the job.
norcalguardiansfan
The Indians are in an obvious rebuilding situation. I’m not sure what motivated Francona to sign up with Cleveland, beyond his friendship with people in the front office, but I don’t see how this team can become competitive in one off season. Further, we don’t have much help coming from the minors for at least two years. It makes a hell of a lot more sense to blow it up now, then prepare for the group of decent young guys who are rising up from the minors.
Perhaps they’ve convinced themselves that one or two key additions will return the Indians to contention, but as someone who has watched this team play ball for a long time….there ain’t no way.
Blow it up!
goner
If the Indians non-tender Brent Lillibridge, I hope he gets another opportunity somewhere else. I have no idea what happened to his bat in 2012, though.
Nathan Milner
Paul Maholm isn’t a free agent yet…
MetsEventually
The Mets just signed Niese this past off season…why would they trade him away when trying to build a steady rotation…
METSFAN6
How about a deal with the Mets. Indians trade Joe Smith and Michael Brantley to Mets for Lucas Duda, Jordany Valdespin, Zach Lutz, and Jenrry Mejia? Thoughts?
burnboll
Trade away younger players for over the hill guys who dont contribute? Why would Indians be interested in Duda?
Indians are in rebuild mode, Brantley may be one of the core guys of the club over the next 5-7 years. If Indians were to trade him, at least it cant be for an older guy!
They might see it better to completely restart, and trade their current core players for prospects. But that wasn’t your suggestion.
burnboll
Why should Indians trade or look in th free agent pool for pitching? They’re still a year or two away from contending. Better to groom their own prospects and, if needed, add quality to fill out the roster later.
norcalguardiansfan
I agree that the Indians are a couple years away from contending, but the truth is that they have almost no starting pitching in the upper levels of their system. They really need to make a trade to restock AAA and AA. Try might add a free agent for a year to tide themselves over for a couple years, but they won’t have pitchers knocking their door down.