Ubaldo Jimenez Still Seeking $14MM+ Annually

Though it's been a somewhat quiet offseason on the Ubaldo Jimenez front thus far, the lack of chatter doesn't mean his asking price is going down. The right-hander's agents are still telling teams that they seek an annual salary north of $14MM on a multiyear deal for their client, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.

Jimenez, represented by Relativity Baseball (formerly known as SFX), has seen his market slowed by the uncertainty surrounding Masahiro Tanaka. To this point in the offseason, no pitcher has secured a $14MM annual salary on a multiyear deal, though that again is likely due to the Tanaka market. Tanaka himself should clear that mark with ease, and Jimenez, Matt Garza and Ervin Santana also figure to top that mark with their eventual deals.

Because Jimenez rejected a qualifying offer, any team other than the Indians will be required to forfeit a top draft pick in order to sign him. Though he comes with a spotty track record in recent years, Jimenez is relatively young for a free agent (he turns 30 this month), and it's hard to argue with the performance he turned in this season. Many are quick to glance at Jimenez's splits and state that he had a dominant second half. While that's true — he had a 1.82 ERA after the All-Star break — Jimenez's rebound began much earlier than that. After allowing 19 earned runs in his first 17 innings, Jimenez pitched to a 2.61 ERA with a 179-to-69 K/BB ratio from April 29 through season's end — a span of 28 starts.

Though the Indians would like Jimenez back, he's likely to be too pricey for their tastes. Jimenez was recently connected to the Blue Jays and could draw interest from clubs such as the Yankees and Diamondbacks as well. The Orioles were at one time linked to Jimenez, but they, like the Indians, seem unable to afford him.

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  1. LazerTown 2 years ago

    I’m kind of split on him.

    He is really risky. He could turn out to be an absolute bargain, or he could be an overpaid backend starter.

    • ConstructionBoy 2 years ago

      I’m sure we all knew that though.

    • johnsilver 2 years ago

      My thinking is that if Jimenez is asking for 6/84m, then just how much could Garza be looking for?

      Most of us that knew Anibal Sanchez was a really good SP never figured he would score 5/90m last off season and he had a consistent track record that Jimenez doesn’t come close to.

      Can Garza be looking for something over 100m, even Matt Cain money?

    • Pei Kang 2 years ago

      Not at the money and contract length he’s asking…

    • JacobyWanKenobi 2 years ago

      If his mechanic changes and the second half are any indicator, I’d rather take a risk on him than Garza.

  2. UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

    In an off season where Hughes got 3 years and $8MM per I can see Jimenez getting 3 guaranteed years probably even a 4th vesting year and to be honest based on the salaries that are being handed out in general so far $14MM per doesn’t seem out of line.

    • Jeff Weissbuch 2 years ago

      I think I would rather have Hughes for 8 million and no draft pick than Jimenez for 14 million plus loss a draft pick.

      • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

        Not if you are the Yankees and apparently you didn’t see many of the games Hughes pitch last year. Besides if the Yankees were to sign him they would only be losing their 2nd round draft pick. Better to lose multiple picks in one year and start fresh the next year with all your picks then lose first rounders in multiple years.

  3. Puig Power 2 years ago

    It definitely a risk, but this guy has amazing talent when harnessed. If I’m a middle-market team, I feel like it’s a risk worth taking. Between someone like a Phil Hughes and Ubaldo, Id rather take the risk on Ubaldo and a few more bucks.

    • Shin_Soo_Choo 2 years ago

      I think Ubaldo is going to get nearly twice what Hughes got. As this article stated, the mid-market teams can’t afford him. The Indians have an advantage because they wont lose their own draft pick if they sign him, but there is no way they will spend 14/year on him.

  4. TheTeddyRuxpin 2 years ago

    The Yankees are going to sign him. They just want to make sure the Tanaka bidding doesn’t get way out of hand first. The Yanks will get both him and Tanaka.

  5. Jeremy 2 years ago

    Cmon, do it AA, $14M is within the Jays budget.

    • Marinersforever71 2 years ago

      Matt Garza or Ervin Santana is other option if Jimenez goes to the Pacific NW to sign w/ the Mariners.

  6. tribescribe 2 years ago

    “To this point in the offseason, no pitcher has secured a $14MM annual salary on a multiyear deal”

    Lincecum, 2 years, $35 million.

    • rikersbeard 2 years ago

      Was he a FA at the time?

      • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

        No he was not a FA yet. The World Series ended on Oct. 26th. Lincecum signed an EXTENSION on Oct. 23 before the WS ended and before players became FA’s.

        • rikersbeard 2 years ago

          That’s what I was getting at, but I didn’t bother to google.

          • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

            I thought so, but since your earlier reply was in the form of a question it sounded like you weren’t sure if it was or wasn’t.

    • BlueCatuli 2 years ago

      Believe that was an extension done before the free agent period began.

    • John 2 years ago

      Happened during the playoffs/world series. Not the offseason.

  7. John 2 years ago

    I’m a reasonable guy. So if Ubaldo really wants 14mm, I’m willing to haggle and offer any club my services for…say…$3.5mm.

    • $3513744 2 years ago

      I’ll be right there to offer $3MM

    • Sufferfortribe 2 years ago

      Indians will offer you a minor league contract with a spring training invite. Like they seem to be doing with everyone. Heck, at least you get to go to Arizona.

  8. rikersbeard 2 years ago

    I would take him on the jays for four years at 14 million (edit: per year…obviously) with a favorable 5th year club option.

  9. JJ 2 years ago

    Yankees plz stay away from Jimenez. Sign Garza

    • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

      Heck Garza’s way to much of an injury risk for what his asking price is and when he did come back to the AL the 2nd half of 2013 with the Rangers he got eaten alive.

      • JJ 2 years ago

        What about Jimenez only one good season since 2010. Do you really want to offer him 4-5 years?

        how Garza is way to much of an injury risk.

        2008: 30GS 2009:32GS 2010:33GS 2011:31 2012:18GS 2013:24
        When Garza was trade to texas he was coming back from a injured and he was pitching in a hitters park.

        • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

          @ Joel, “he was pitching in a hitters park.”. What do you think Yankee Stadium is. As for the comment that he was coming back from an injury at the time he was traded to the Rangers. He was traded to the Rangers the middle of July 2013 he came back and pitched for the Cubs in May, June and the 1st half of July, 11 starts in all. “Coming back from an injury while with the Rangers” is an excuse for for his performance not a reason for it.
          @ johnsilver, I didn’t say he was injury prone. I said he was an injury risk there is a difference. The injury risk exist because in his last 2 seasons he has only pitched a combined 258 innings (103 innings in 2012 and 155 innings in 2013) that’s the risk.

          • JJ 2 years ago

            Garza still better than Jimenez and teams doesn’t have to give up a draft pick for him.

          • UltimateYankeeFan 2 years ago

            I get it you like Garza. Have a good day.

        • teakayfortoowon 2 years ago

          2011: 3.3 fWAR
          2012: 0.1 fWAR
          2013: 3.2 fWAR

          Do you mean only one bad season since 2010?

          • JJ 2 years ago

            Do you even know what fWAR is ? You should be looking at WAR!
            2011: -0.2
            2012: -0.6
            2012: 2.7

          • Encarnacion's Parrot 2 years ago

            You do realize that rWAR uses ERA, which is skewed by defense, or lack of, right? rWAR is a nice stat to combine with fWAR, but otherwise it’s more useless than fWAR is. FIP is your friend, not your enemy.

          • teakayfortoowon 2 years ago

            fWAR is Fangraph’s version of WAR. You appear to be using bWAR, or Baseball Reference’s version of WAR. You also forgot to add his 2011 WAR Colorado (0.9) to his 2011 WAR in Cleveland (-0.2)

      • johnsilver 2 years ago

        Hilarious. 1 injury in his 1st 6 seasons and he is injury prone?

        • JJ 2 years ago


        • twins33 2 years ago

          I agree on “injury risk” which is what UYF said. He’s had a stress facture in his elbow and a shoulder strain, both recently. He’s also has a screw in his elbow that he’s had since childhood.
          Risk, yes. Prone, probably too early to say that.

  10. ice_hawk10 2 years ago

    $14mill? That wouldn’t be like the $14mill the Jays would have had earmarked for Josh Johnson had he not decided to forget how to pitch in 2013?

    • raltongo 2 years ago

      Ehh. He forgot in 2012. That should have been viewed as a slightly-above-average reclamation project at best

  11. bob smit 2 years ago

    As an Indians fan, I’m still irrationally hoping that he comes back… for some reason…

  12. snapcase8p 2 years ago

    Who knew that Jimenez was so funny!

  13. Guest 2 years ago

    It’s a significant amount of money, and people seem to think it’s a ridiculous amount, but it could end up being a bargain; He finished the year great.

    • twins33 2 years ago

      It just depends which Jimenez shows up. Is he the guy from last year or is he the guy from 2011/2012 with a 5 ERA?

      I think he’ll get 10 per year (minimum) no matter what, but it’s hard to say which version of Jimenez a team will be signing.

  14. EdwinJacksonClosetFan 2 years ago

    He will get 4/52 million. Edwin Jackson money.

  15. Encarnacion's Parrot 2 years ago

    Considering Jimenez has put up at least 3.0 fWAR in 5 of the last 6 seasons, and has been on the DL I think once, I hope the Jays sign him for $13-14M a year. One bad season shouldn’t make a team shy.

  16. Eslva917 2 years ago

    How bout no Scott..

  17. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey 2 years ago

    I wouldn’t want to be the GM that gave Jimenez 14+ AAV over 4+ years but given the current pitching market I can see him getting it. His market has been artificially suppressed by the Tanaka situation. Given the weak SP market and the number of teams still in need of rotation help (NYY, LAA, MIN, TOR, CLE, TEX, BAL, PIT, SEA, ARZ, NYM, and KC) Jimenez along with Garza and Jimenez will find multi year deals once the Tanaka situation is settled.

  18. Unassisted Triple Play 2 years ago

    14 mill a year? I just don’t see it. Jimenez has not been consistent enough for that kind of money. Too risky IMHO.

    • Unassisted Triple Play 2 years ago

      It’s 14 mil a year PLUS a draft pick!! Yeah that’s gonna be a pass.

  19. not_brooks 2 years ago

    The Orioles could easily afford to pay Jimenez.

    They’re just too cheap to do it.

    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan
      Lefty_Orioles_Fan 2 years ago

      That’s what I am thinking! You just beat me to it.
      Not only that, the 18th pick in the 1st round has zero chance of helping the current Oriole Nucleus to the playoffs in 2014.
      Sign Jimenez, what he is asking for is not unreasonable and then if the O’s want they could resolve their DH situation by either trading for Ike Davis or signing Morales. This would help the Oriole fans a great deal if the O’s were to do this. Plus, I would find this very soothing to a rough off-season!

      • not_brooks 2 years ago

        You and me both, Lefty.

        There’s a golden opportunity in Baltimore right now, and by refusing to complement the current core with actual MLB players, ownership is essentially saying, “Sorry, fans. We just don’t have any interest in winning a championship.”

        • DieHardMsFan 2 years ago

          Maybe they are expecting one of the younger guys to step in and preform up to their billing? Like Gausman, Bundy, etc.

          Still I think the O’s need to add at least one of Tanaka, Garza, Jimenez and/or Santana to really compete for a playoff spot. The O’s are really close to putting it all together and they have a relatively short window to really compete before their core of Davis, Weiters (spelling?), Jones and Machado get expensive….

      • Marinersforever71 2 years ago

        Signing Ike Davis would be great option for the O’s by moving Chris Davis to DH as Morales could re-sign w/ the Mariners to compete in the division and possibly best record in the AL.

        • Spit Ball 2 years ago

          The Mariners so need Morales at this point Montero is palying first in winter ball, they have Smoak and they signed Logan Morrisson and Cory Hart. The Orioles also can’t sign IKE DAVIS. He is property of the Mets and they would need to trade for him.

          • Marinersforever71 2 years ago

            Yup, for some minor league prospects at the positions O’s are deep that the Mets could use. Smoak would be a great trade bait to either Milwaukee Brewers including Nick Franklin or the Pirates in a multi trade w/ the Phillies (sending Cliff Lee, Papelbon, Dominic Brown to Seattle) or the Rays (sending Price & Joyce to the Mariners) involving some players Mariners can send for one of those two teams that need to fill positions for the future.

  20. Quikmix 2 years ago

    this feels like the year where any FA that costs a draft pick is going to get passed on until very late.

  21. Zak A 2 years ago

    14 MM doesn’t sound terrible if you compare to the other guys making around 14 MM per Peavy/Danks/Dempster/Sanchez.

  22. Marinersforever71 2 years ago

    Seattle Mariners could afford Jimenez, Tanaka, and Balfour if not able to acquire Cliff Lee & Papelbon from the Phillies. Both of those players on top of adding Brett Gardner would propel the Mariners to compete in the American League West and rest of the AL teams in order to get back into the playoffs after over a decade drought (especially making to the World Series if the Seahawks don’t reach the Super Bowl). This is the year to save GM Jack Z’s job by making those free agency moves.
    2014 Mariners Starting Rotation consist of:
    1) Felix Hernandez
    2) Hisashi Iwamura
    3) Tanaka
    4) Ubaldo Jimenez
    5) Erasmo Ramirez or James Paxton (one of the two will pitch from the bullpen)

    • NimbusStev 2 years ago

      I’m all in favor of the M’s making a big splash and succeeding this season, but that seems like a bit of a longshot.

      • Marinersforever71 2 years ago

        Unless of making a trade w/ either the Phillies to acquire Cliff Lee, Brown, and/or Papelbon or the Rays to acquire Price & Joyce in addition of signing Balfour as a closer to compete for the final wild card spot.

    • NimbusStev 2 years ago

      I’m all in favor of the M’s making a big splash and succeeding this season, but that seems like a bit of a longshot.

  23. KJ4realz 2 years ago

    I think Ubaldo is being undervalued by some and really think he could be (depending on what he signs for) one of the better
    FA signings of this off season.

    He went from overrated to underrated so quickly he never had the chance to be just a ‘good’ pitcher.

  24. NimbusStev 2 years ago

    As an Indians fan, I’m honestly grateful that he had a lights-out close to 2013 (and thus putting him out of our price range like most former Indian free agents) Aside from that 2 month stint, he was never the ace that we needed him to be. If his asking price wouldn’t have skyrocketed, I actually believe Cleveland would have made the mistake of resigning him.

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