Trade Talks For Bartolo Colon Quieting

THURSDAY: Mets GM Sandy Alderson implied that Colon isn’t likely to be dealt as it stands right now, given the current state of trade talks, tweets Rubin“I would say right now there’s a lot less going on than some people speculate,” said Alderson.

That quote meshes with a tweet from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, who heard from a Dodgers source that it was “doubtful” the team would make a move for Colon with Hyun-jin Ryu nearing a return from the DL.

WEDNESDAY, 10:21pm: The Dodgers seem not to have serious interest in adding Colon, according to a tweet from Peter Gammons of GammonsDaily.com. The lack of pressing demand may make it difficult for the Mets to achieve their asking price on the veteran hurler; the team is “looking for quality prospects in return,” one executive tells Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com (Twitter link).

1:42pm: The Royals haven’t been in touch with the Mets regarding Colon since prior to the trade deadline, a source tells Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (Twitter link).

TUESDAY: Right-hander Bartolo Colon cleared waivers yesterday due to his 2015 salary, and the Mets are receiving “definite interest” in the 41-year-old, Andy Martino of the New York Daily News tweeted last night. By clearing waivers, Colon became eligible to be traded to any team, but interested parties do have some “trepidation” regarding his $11MM salary for 2015. This morning, Martino has a full column published with further details on the interest in Colon.

Martino spoke with one AL executive who expects the Angels, Dodgers and Royals to be the most active teams in the Colon market, though as Martino notes, Kansas City might not be able to afford the aging righty. The Mets were said to be willing to eat about $2MM of the remaining salary on Colon’s contract in late July, and nothing has changed on that front at this time, Martino reports. Were the Mets to absorb that much money and then wait until Aug. 31 to move Colon (thereby minimizing the financial commitment for a rival club), Colon would be owed $10.52MM for September 2014 (plus the playoffs) and the entirety of the 2015 campaign.

The Mets are interested in not only clearing the bulk of Colon’s salary but also in receiving a decent return in terms of prospects, which further complicates the situation. A second executive from a team that is interested in Colon tells Martino, “Everyone is scared of next year,” suggesting that it might be difficult for GM Sandy Alderson to receive a solid prospect or two while simultaneously clearing significant payroll.


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149 Comments on "Trade Talks For Bartolo Colon Quieting"


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thethinwhiteduke
10 months 11 days ago

im confused process wise…if a team is interested why would they choose not to claim him but make a move now?

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Chris Greene
10 months 11 days ago

If they claimed him, the Mets could just dump Colon and ALL of his salary on a team. Assuming that a team values money more than some of their prospects, that could be something they don’t want. Better just to let him clear and then negotiate.

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Squiddy
10 months 11 days ago

Just how much salary relief does someone expect the Mets to pick-up? $1m? $2m?

And they’re not going to give that relief for a career AAA player, the Mets would want a ML-quality prospect – that’s worth more than $2m.

If any of those teams wanted him, they should’ve just claimed him, and taken the chance the Mets might “dump” his contract on him – his remaining contract isn’t *that* bad …

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 11 days ago

It depends on the level of prospect they’re willing to give up. The better the prospect, the more of the salary the Mets will be willing to take on

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northsfbay
10 months 11 days ago

If a player goes unclaimed, it tells you about his value.

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Matt
10 months 11 days ago

completely false. Darvish, Beltre, Gio, Gardner all passed this year. Studs pass through every year. There are many reasons for a player to go unclaimed.

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10 months 11 days ago

All four of those could be explained by GMs not wanting to waste their time with negotiations for a deal that won’t happen. I’m sure there’s protocol for how claims have to be dealt with.

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 11 days ago

If it were irrevocable (DFA outright) waivers it might. But deadline waivers mean nothing more than the teams either A. did not want to risk having the player’s entire salary dumped on them and/or B. did not want to waste time for a player they knew they no chance of acquiring. If not being claimed on revocable waivers reflected a player’s value, probably 80% or better of the players in the league would be deemed worthless.

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Metfan9876
10 months 11 days ago

Marlon Byrd went unclaimed last year

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

at least half the time it tells you more about their CONTRACT….and how much money is left on their deals..

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10 months 11 days ago

Contextually it’s bad. Many of the interested teams won’t have 11 million lying around in their budgets. The Dodgers do, but that’s about it.

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David Nall
10 months 10 days ago

dodgers are already over the luxury tax. Angels have the space for it. with the blanton contract coming off and wells.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

Arte Moreno has recently stated that Angels will NOT go over the luxury tax for 2015…….making Colon, difficult, if not impossible to acquire…..

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calamityfrancis
10 months 11 days ago

i totally agree.

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Chris Greene
10 months 10 days ago

I’m not saying it’s sane, just saying that (from everything we’ve heard) no one really wants to pay him that much. Not entirely rational, and I can think of a couple of teams who should have just gone for it, but that’s the only reason I can think of that makes any sense at all and is a fairly common reason (would anyone claim Ryan Howard on waivers? I think not).

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Don’t have a concrete answer, but best I can come up with is…if a team claimed him with the intent of blocking a division rival from scooping him up, the Mets could have just said, “he’s yours”, and dumped all his salary on the claiming team. Why both L.A. teams would be interested in trading for him after he cleared though is weird to me, seeing as how they were the last 2 teams in the process.

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matt05
10 months 11 days ago

Because if they claimed him and didn’t work a trade out, the Mets could have just unloaded the entire contract on either of them. The angels would then be put over next seasons luxury tax, which would make it more enticing to trade a prospect for the post season push, and have the mets absorb a portion based on how significant the prospect is in return.

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Classic12
10 months 10 days ago

But the Angels have no prospects of use to trade, at most would save a small fraction of the 2015 commitment. If they truly wanted Colon, they should have claimed him and paid the bill. Nevermind that this is a team that lost 2/5 of their 2015 rotation in the past couple of weeks … they clearly don’t see Colon as a legit candidate to fill either of those spots, much less help them down the stretch. Not that I agree with them, but they would be fools to make a trade now if they didn’t think he was worth a claim.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

Why do people keep saying the Angels have no prospects? or that their farm is weak…….

In the last 3-4 yrs …the angels farm has produced Trout,Trumbo,Cole Calhoun,Cj Cron…Garret Richards…..JB Shuck, Green…….

Angels “prospects” are pretty good…… so they are already in the big leagues…..

They might not be in the minors anymore……but the Angels have plenty to trade should they see fit…..

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Classic12
10 months 9 days ago

And they should *NOT* trade a major leaguer for Colon – my entire point. Certainly not any of those you mentioned, with a possible exception of Green who hits like a middle infielder and fields like a DH. As for minor leaguers, there was much handwringing over the Street trade in which the Angels traded their “top” prospects, none of whom was rated in the Top 90 in all of MLB. This isn’t about who is already in the majors – it’s about who the Mets or anybody else would see as a valuable building block for the future to accept in trade.

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WrigleyTerror37
10 months 9 days ago

Green was acquired from the As for alberto callaspo (spelling)
Jb Shuck was invited to spring training after the astros cut im following the 2012 season.
But other than those to, u are right the angles do have some home grown talent that coukd be traded in the right deal.

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Not4
10 months 10 days ago

Exactly. It’s called not giving away negotiating leverage needlessly.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

have more options by waiting until they pass thru waivers sometimes……if Angels/Dodgers claim Colon while in waivers, it is possible they could get stuck paying ALL his money for 2015…….

By waiting…. they can negotiate with Mets to kick in a few million dollars to offset some of his 2015 money…..

and then give the Mets a warm-body medium prospect that they probably didnt have plans for anyway……

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sunshipballoons
10 months 10 days ago

I don’t think the other explanations are right. If Colon had been claimed on waviers, the Mets almost certainly would not have traded him. That’s because, if there’s a claim, they have no trade leverage and can’t get much for him. As a practical matter, if you want to trade for him, you need to let him through waivers. That allows the Mets to shop him around and drive the price high enough that they are willing to make a trade.

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 10 days ago

What? You talk like the Mets control whether or not he gets claimed..
Edit: Okay, I get what you’re trying to say now. No, that is not how it works.

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sunshipballoons
10 months 10 days ago

That is definitely how it works. If he’s claimed on waiver, the Mets can trade him now with no leverage — only one team to trade for him. If they wait till the off season, they have up to 29 teams they could trade him to (though, more realistically, it’s 5-7 teams). Baseball people regularly comment that they are not likely to trade a high-value player if he is claimed on waivers.

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 10 days ago

What you said CAN happen, but teams just don’t do that. If a “good” player like Colon isn’t claimed on August waivers, it almost always means that there weren’t any teams who were comfortable enough potentially having the player’s contract dumped on them to claim him.

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sunshipballoons
10 months 10 days ago

I mean, you can keep saying that, but there have been several articles this summer referring to comments from baseball executives that suggests the other explanation.

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 10 days ago

Link?

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Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
10 months 10 days ago

I know linking is against the comment section rules, but could you direct me to such articles?

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sunshipballoons
10 months 10 days ago

I read that about a couple of specific players, but unfortunately I cannot remember which players it was. I will say, I do not think that Colon was one of them, but I think the rationale applies.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

You are both right….

Each situation is different…..in the long past a few teams have had a HUGE contract put onto their team that they were NOT expecting……

Most times the team with the player will NOT trade for NOTHING…..

but they MIGHT(and receiving team responsible for ENTIRE CONTRACT)…..and that is enough to keep some teams from claiming……

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mauryfeldman
10 months 10 days ago

Actually, if a team were to claim him, they have a pretty big piece of leverage: $12 million.

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sunshipballoons
10 months 10 days ago

Yes, precisely. If a team claims Colon, that team has all the leverage and the Mets have none. So, rather than trade Colon under those circumstances, the Mets can wait till the off season when they have more leverage because more teams can trade for him.

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Adam
10 months 10 days ago

The Mets won’t get much for him in the off season. The big thing hurting his value right now is that contract for next year. Take away the benefits of having him for the play off push and you really aren’t offering much. If the Mets keep a hold of him they won’t be dealing him in the off season. Maybe next year at the trade deadline; assuming next years contract doesn’t prove to be the liability the majority of the teams fear it will be.

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whensly
10 months 10 days ago

it’s all a big game of chicken. teams don’t claim so they can bargain the mets down . As the article says, if they claimed him they would be responsible for all his salary. Now they can try to get the mets to kick in money for them to take Colon. It’s a negotiating tactic. Also will be a good barometer of checking the Mets fiscal health. If the Mets keep Colon or walk away from a bad deal they show they have the money to pay him and others. if they get rid of Bartolo as a salary dump it shows they are still running the organization by rubbing two sticks together

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BillPearson
10 months 10 days ago

These were revocable waivers. So if a team claimed him, the Mets could have pulled him back rather than part with him for nothing.

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108 stitches
10 months 9 days ago

yes

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Dynasty22
10 months 11 days ago

I still don’t get the concern for Colon’s contract. For the way Colon has been pitching since he returned to the bigs, 11 million seems like a bargain. Its like teams are looking at other factors other than performance.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

he has pitched ok all year. he is solid if you did not know his age he shows he is ageless . ITs not going to be different next year then this year. I say we should get one very good prospect vs two ok prospects.

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Yeah, I’m hoping we can trade him by Sunday. In my opinion, the demand would be a tad bit higher now than in the off season(from contending teams of course). I’d be happy with a C prospect for him. He has no future in Queens, other than filling a rotation spot until one of the young guns is ready…Dice-K can do the same thing(when healthy). Strike while the iron is hot,

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10 months 11 days ago

The demand for him will plummet in the offseason when there’s cheaper options available.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

cheaper and better options not that he won’t bring back the same package but we can now strike on something first letting teams consider the rest of other options now a team maybe desperate now to get him and will take on his salary for all Sept and all next year

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Adam
10 months 10 days ago

The only opportunity for the Mets to get something before next June/July/August is right now. He’s going to be 42. MAYBE he could get a team to give him a 1 year $11 million contract in the off season if he was a free agent, but that’s far from a given and that’s definitely not below market value. That will be the contract the new team will essentially be getting next season. To think that a team is going to take that on AND give up a prospect of any real value for the privilege of having a 42 year old pitcher under that kind of contract just isn’t realistic. The Mets then are going to be stuck holding onto him into next season, paying him, and taking on the risk he continues to perform and doesn’t get injured.
If the Mets somehow knew he could perform this well again next season they’d be best served holding on to him, paying the money, and picking up the better prospect next year. That’s a pretty big gamble though. Judging from the reaction from the other teams its a gamble none of the other teams are willing to make.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

well said

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Eric Ohlson
10 months 11 days ago

He is one of the cheaper options!

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10 months 11 days ago

In the offseason? No he isn’t. You can get starting pitching for much less. Aaron Harang has had a good year on a one million dollar contract. The lower tier options carry similar uncertainty as a 42 year old Colon and have minimal impact on a team’s payroll.

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Eric Ohlson
10 months 11 days ago

Who thought Harang would have a decent year ? Braves took a chance. You ‘re looking in retrospect. If Harang was such a good, cheaper option, why did the Mets sign Colon and not Harang who they had on the roster the end of last season?

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10 months 11 days ago

I’m not saying the Mets should have taken Harang over Colon. Only that Colon will not be one of the cheaper options for 2015 as players will similar uncertainty levels go for much less. Teams are very wary of having an 11 million Colon on their team for next year and will seek bargain bin players instead of him.

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Eric Ohlson
10 months 10 days ago

Despite his age (and salary), Colon is still pretty reliable. Guys like Harang are always a gamble due to recent inconsistancy which is why they’re cheaper. Just curious RevMurph who you think the cheaper options might be?

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10 months 10 days ago

A 42 year old Colon is a gamble. If teams weren’t worried about that, he would have been traded already. The Mets were the only team who would give Colon a two year deal.

The 2015 list of Free Agents is littered in pitchers who can be had for a fraction of Colon’s salary or on minor league deals. They’re also risky, but none will take up a significant percentage of a team’s FA spending money.

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

Cheaper but just as questionable, or more expensive and likely not as effective

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10 months 11 days ago

If a player is cheaper and just as questionable, the team will take that player. 11 million is not chump change for an uncertainly like a 42 year old Colon.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

i totally agree next year if Dice K gets a spring invite its just as insurance till maybe Thor is really ready . But i think we got a surplus of pitching you never know.

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

Dice has performed enough to earn more then a ST invite.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

his value is high to us because he can start or bullpen with the kids he may not be more then a 5th or 6st starter. Like Torres is. But you can’t count on him because he has been hurt alot in his MLB career and he has been inconsistant . But if he stays lower cost he will be worth it but honestly we have kids in the pen and kids in the roation so that is why i say Spring invite because we have other options Plus we can take our time with Syndergaard coming up next June

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

I think you are under valuing what 200 IP does for a rotation. You think TC burns through a BP now; wait

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Oh Im not under valuing him at all. I know how important he’s been this year, even to a team thats going no where. All I’m saying is, is that in essence hes just keeping a rotation spot warm for someone else. Theres clearly some sort of demand for him, no matter high or low, theres a demand, so might as well dump him now.

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

Yes there is a demand, at the same time as a Met fan I think he provides the team a better chance to win in 2015 then Gee

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Could be right, could be wrong. Who knows? I dont think well see Gee past 2015 either…just a hunch.

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108 stitches
10 months 9 days ago

Bullpen stuff. He’s outpitched that but can he get by with it.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

its close between those two……but one costs 11 million…… and one costs SIGNIFICANTLY less…….making the decision a no brainer

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 9 days ago

I will take consistency over cost.

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calamityfrancis
10 months 11 days ago

he’s been better than ok.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

i say when he wins he is really good when he got losses for most of those games he was ok. I just do not say he will change much . He will give any team quality performance not lights out or bad. He is dependable

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halflink123
10 months 10 days ago

It’s all about supply and demand. The supply hasn’t changed much since the trade deadline but the demand certainly, certainly has. You had front line starters go down to injury at the Angels, Tigers, and the Dodgers always needed pitching. Some of these teams are going to possibly be in a such a position of need that they’re going to be willing to surrender plus prospect(s) to fill that need. All this talk about excessive salary for next year, etc., are nonsense. $10M for a guy that can give you 200 IP with a sub 4 ERA is by no means unreasonable. If anything, they should be happy that Colon is signed for one additional year. The Mets might be able to get quite a nice prospect(s) for Colon.

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Adam
10 months 10 days ago

They’re looking also at his age… 42 years old… ancient by starting pitching standards historically. Aside from individuals tied to PED’s you haven’t historically seen many if any pitchers continuing to perform at that high of a level at that age. That makes it a very risky contract. If you look at his performance from ages 31 – 38, you see he could pitch a whole lot worse than he’s doing right now. In 2012 though he really seemed to get everything on track and started pitching well above his historical averages… until he got suspended. I’m not saying he’s still doing that, but his performance then and since might make GM’s think twice too.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

no point in me commenting ……you just nailed it right there…..

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Douglas Bath
10 months 9 days ago

92 ERA+ is not all that great. he’s a 5th starter making #3 starter money.

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christopher
10 months 9 days ago

a lotta people in mlb still remember his link to PEDS….and think his well will run dry at any minute….

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EzRider
10 months 11 days ago

Question i have is can a Player to be named later be from the ML roster?
Could the Mets make a deal with the Angels for CJ Cron and PTBNL and have that wind up being Erick Aybar? We’d get Aybar after the season to complete the deal. Not saying this is what either team wants or is even thinking just wondering. I also wonder if Cron could play LF?

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Gumby65
10 months 11 days ago

This kind of haul would never happen.

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

if you can just get Cron take it and run and be happy . I do not think we should be greedy . I think one very good prospect vs so so guys. I do not think we will get anybody off the major league roster for Colon so i doubt Cron is coming back

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rpoabr
10 months 11 days ago

To be clear, there is NO way Cron is going on a deal like that. Usually the PTBNL is a scrub or a pick of a collection of middle level guys. Everyone can say what they want about “pay for his performance” but how many 42 year old pitchers are there?

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

Vic Black seems to have been a decent PTBNL, so does Blake Taylor..

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rwdavis22461
10 months 11 days ago

in a deal you moving his salary to save it for this offseason if you get anything back in talent consider it a win regardless of how well he pitched liked you said a 41 year old unless your talking about Nolan Ryan are rare you can count on. Hope when we do save x amount they will re do his salary towards somebody this offseason. With the Wilpons your not sure they will re distrubute it next year.

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Yes. The PTBNL can be anyone. 9 times out of 10 its a minor leaguer though. Its generally used when a team doesnt know what position they wanna fill, or are unsure of who they want in return(or in August cases, some players need to clear waivers). A lot of times, teams will give their counterpart a list of 5 or 6 guys and say “pick one”.

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bjsguess
10 months 11 days ago

It is often used for players who were recently drafted and are ineligible to be traded for a certain duration of time.

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Out of place Met fan
10 months 11 days ago

PTBNL can not be on the 25 man roster when the deal happens.

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Correct you are sir. I was thinking more “40 man” than “25 man”

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rct
10 months 11 days ago

With this situation, it seems like the Mets could basically buy a team’s prospect, no? Say that eating none of the salary would net you a marginal prospect. If they ate the $2MM they say they will, they’d get a better prospect. $5MM? An even better one, no? If you could get a decent prospect by spending a few million in the form of covering some of Colon’s salary, shouldn’t you?

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10 months 11 days ago

I think there’s a limit to how good the prospect could be and it’s not very high.

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brianm207
10 months 11 days ago

Agreed. In all reality it is JUST Bartolo Colon. He’s not Lester or Price, etc. He’s a 17 year vet with his best days behind him whos owed, at the minimum 10 mil. That being said, Sandy has gotten some solid deals done for aging vets. Dealing Beltran, Dickey, Byrd and Buck netted us Wheeler, Syndergaard, d’Arnaud, Black and Hererra. So he has the skills to get it done. In the end, if, IF he gets delt before Sunday I wouldnt expect anything more than a C level, high-A kinda guy

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rpoabr
10 months 11 days ago

“In the end, if, IF he gets delt before Sunday I wouldnt expect anything more than a C level, high-A kinda guy”
Exactly

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rct
10 months 11 days ago

This is just hypothetical, but what if the Mets ate all of the salary? A team would get Bartolo Colon for free, salary-wise. What is that worth? If only eating the $2MM can net a prospect, what would spending the other $9MM get from the Mets’ perspective? Not saying that that would ever happen, but I’m just wondering about the money value of prospects.

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10 months 11 days ago

That’s a tough one. The fact that the Mets do have some leverage here because the demand is higher than it will be moving forward. I think there’s a limit to the type of prospect that would be included in a deal and that it’s not a strictly monetary issue.

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liberalconservative
10 months 11 days ago

Angel fans should be angry their owner doesn’t just spend the money and get Colon. They don’t have the prospects to lower the cost and the way their #5 starter pitched last night they need to go all in.

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bjsguess
10 months 11 days ago

This is a huge misconception.

The Angels are a lock for the playoffs. Colon or anyone else doesn’t matter. They are fighting for the division win with the A’s but paying $11M for Colon to ever so slightly improve your odds of winning the division is not a sound investment.

Once you are in the playoffs you go with a 4 man rotation (which Colon would not be a part of).

Colon adds depth and I would rather him be on the roster than not. However, it is a pretty big financial commitment for a guy that is guaranteed to only pitch 4 games this year. You do have him for next year, but I don’t see that as an asset. Remember, NOBODY but the Mets were willing to give him a 2 year deal. I can’t imagine the Angels, or anybody else, super excited to pencil him in as a #5 earning $9M next year.

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10 months 11 days ago

The Angels are likely going to be pretty close to the luxury tax as well without Colon.

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liberalconservative
10 months 11 days ago

Being in a WC playoff and winning the division is most likely will mean winning those games. More likely 5 or 6 games he would pitch. Would your chances be much better than Wade pitching in those games? YES Could another starter go down for the halos? Could happen. I am glad you are so sure the halos don’t need him but being in a 5 game series is better than a 1 game series.

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bjsguess
10 months 11 days ago

If you are telling me that Colon would guarantee us the division win then sure – spend the money. Unfortunately, that just isn’t the case. He does improve the odds, but it doesn’t move the needle nearly as much as many people assume.

As stated above, if given the simple choice of whether I would want Colon or not want Colon the obvious answer is that I would want him. Unfortunately, we aren’t having this discussion in a vacuum. There are significant finances at stake with a guaranteed year being handed to a 42 year old.

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liberalconservative
10 months 10 days ago

The playoff window is so small sometimes you must go for it. that is what Beane is doing. The M’s and Astros are getting much better so there will be a shift at the top of the division so go for it now.

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OCSportsGeek
10 months 11 days ago

I agree with your assessment 100%. However, with Richards out, do we really have the “ace” of staff that a one game playoff makes use of?

I’m in NO way saying that Colon is that ace, but he helps us push for the division, which I think should still be the goal instead of a 50/50 playoff game.

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RyanWKrol
10 months 10 days ago

That’s assuming an ace like Felix or Scherzer would even be available on that day. Plus, the Angels have had much success against frontline starting pitchers in 2013. And a number of those games were started by Matt Shoemaker. It’s easy to say losing GR means they lost their ace, but Shoemaker has slowly been proving an ability to compete against some of the best and go 8 innings from time to time as well.

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OCSportsGeek
10 months 10 days ago

Definitely agree on Shoemaker, who’s been a revelation, I guess the main point I was trying to make was that we need proven depth in a fight for the division, and shouldn’t necessarily just ride this to a one game WC playoff. I don’t know that Colon’s even “the answer”, I just think we’re pretty thin up front and any other concerns means both LeBlanc AND Randy Wolfe are likely in the mix. I’d much rather have Colon than either of them.

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mauryfeldman
10 months 11 days ago

The Angels are a lock for the playoffs, but it’s a pretty important matter whether they have to play the one-game playoff.
The Angels have a great major league team, but a horrendous farm system, and a lot of money tied up in veteran contracts. In other words, they’re good enough to win the world series, but they won’t be for long.
Having such a good team in 2014 and then getting bounced in a single, fluky one-game playoff would be a real shame.

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RyanWKrol
10 months 10 days ago

Why won’t they be good enough for a World Series for long? They have a lot of control over their 25 man roster, which is a very good team already. Plus they have the money to get more starting pitching in the offseason. They’ll also have Street next season and can continue fortifying their bullpen. The Angels have a solid core of those veterans you spoke of and it’s very likely they’ll take the same approach they did this past offseason and just continue adding depth. You don’t always need a good farm system for that. That’s just one of several approaches. Plus, the Angels still continue to bring up productive young players despite their so-called weak farm system. So I wouldn’t underestimate them the way they were underestimated going into this season.

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Captain America
10 months 9 days ago

Lots of assumptions there.