The Braves and Padres have agreed to a swap of bad contracts, announcing a trade of Hector Olivera from Atlanta to San Diego in exchange for Matt Kemp and cash considerations (which reportedly total $10.5MM). If there was any question about this being a purely financial move from the Padres’ vantage point, that was answered with the news that Olivera will be immediately designated Olivera for assignment once his suspension is complete.
[Related: Updated San Diego Padres and Atlanta Braves Depth Charts]
The 31-year-old Kemp is owed $21.5MM in each of the next three seasons. The Padres had been slated to pay $18MM of that annually, with the Dodgers kicking in $3.5MM per year. That $3.5MM from the Dodgers will now reportedly be redirected to the Braves. Atlanta already owed Olivera $28.5MM from 2017-19, so the trade effectively amounts to the Braves adding Kemp for an additional $25.5MM over three years — an annual rate of $8.5MM.
A Kemp trade has long been difficult to imagine, as his considerable power is largely negated by his poor defense and his difficulty getting on base. Though he’s clubbed 24 homers this season, Kemp is hitting .262/.285/.489 overall, which translates to just a few ticks above the league-average batting line, per park-adjusted metrics like OPS+ and wRC+. However, while Olivera is owed less money than Kemp, his recent off-field issues look to have motivated the Braves to rid themselves of him before he ever has the opportunity to play another game in their uniform.
Olivera is currently serving a suspension through Aug. 1 under MLB’s domestic violence policy after being arrested and charged with assault of a woman at a Washington D.C.-area hotel back in early April. He’s the third player this season to serve a suspension under the newly implemented policy and has received the strongest punishment of the three. The Braves’ acquisition of Olivera has been ill-fated from the start, as defensive questions at third base quickly forced him into left field, and he’s yet to produce the plate whatsoever in an Atlanta uniform. The 31-year-old has tallied 108 plate appearances in the Majors, but the resulting .245/.296/.378 slash is considerably below the league average, and he hasn’t been productive in his limited minor league time, either. Olivera is owed $28.5MM from 2017-20.
From the Padres’ perspective, the deal is entirely about shedding some of the remaining money on Kemp’s contract and, presumably, clearing a spot for slugging corner outfield prospect Hunter Renfroe to debut with the big league club, whether it’s now or later on in the summer. (Renfroe, 24, was San Diego’s first-round pick in 2013 and has slashed a combined .323/.351/.594 in 121 games at the Triple-A level.) The trade that brought Kemp to San Diego in exchange for Yasmani Grandal, Joe Wieland and Zach Eflin was a head-scratcher at the time and has proven to be a bust for the Padres, but they’ll avoid paying everything that was left on Kemp’s contract with this trade, which continues GM A.J. Preller’s quest to shed payroll and give an opportunity to younger players.
As for the Braves, they’ll accept a portion of Kemp’s contract as a means of getting out from underneath a similarly regrettable trade. One year ago to the day, Atlanta traded Alex Wood, Jose Peraza, Luis Avilan and Jim Johnson to the Dodgers in a three-team deal (also including the Marlins) that sent Olivera, Paco Rodriguez and Zach Bird to the Braves. Atlanta had reportedly coveted Olivera as a free agent but lost out to the Dodgers’ huge offer of $62.5MM. Atlanta had seemingly hoped that Olivera could become a long-term option at third base, but things certainly haven’t panned out that way. GM John Coppolella candidly called the Olivera deal “a bad trade for us and one that I wish we had back” in a Twitter Q&A with fans last month, and he’s at least managed to rid himself of an asset from which the organization very clearly wanted to distance itself.
While Kemp’s defense and OBP will most likely continue to detract from his value, he’ll certainly add some power to a lineup that is currently bereft of home run threats outside of Freddie Freeman. He figures to play left field for the Braves while Mallex Smith is on the shelf, and the possibility of a Nick Markakis deal could open right field for Kemp in the long term. Given Atlanta’s rebuild and stockpiling of young talent, however, it seems reasonable to expect that they may eventually be open to moving Kemp themselves as a means of clearing way for a more youthful option to join Smith and Ender Inciarte in the outfield.
ESPN’s Keith Law first reported that the two sides were approaching a Kemp/Olivera swap (via Twitter). Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that it would be just those two players in the deal. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports added that there were cash considerations in the deal. Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune reported (on Twitter) that Olivera could be immediately be designated for assignment. David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution tweeted that an agreement was reached . Bowden tweeted the amount of cash changing hands. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweeted that the $10.5MM was the same $10.5MM the Padres were to receive from the Dodgers — not an additional $10.5MM.
Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Grey Suit
Hmm I would almost rather they keep Kemp.
Gogerty
So curious about the money portion.
RunDMC
I don’t get it, there’s $30M (roughly) difference between the 2 deals, so does ATL really want to be on the hook for the rest of that, though it’s not extremely bad if he were to produce anything (considering ATL was contemplating outright release of Olivera).
southi
I’m wondering if Atlanta is looking to play Kemp in leftfield at least for the rest of this season. Smith isn’t going to come back until September as he is still having issues with his broken thumb. Of course there might be a deal for Markakis in the works as well with some other team.
The sad truth is that we all know that Kemp has an iron glove, a frail body, doesn’t run well anymore, seldom takes a walk (which means he doesn’t get on base much at all). and is very expensive. The Braves look to be trying to at least generate some offense and if everything goes right there is the possibility they might can flip him (still paying most of his salary) to an American league team sometime either this offseason, or during this rest of the time period covered by one of the worst contracts in baseball. Not really sure if they are truly making a bad situation a small bit better, or making it even worse. The truth will be determined in time.
baseballfanforever
I believe it is still a win for the Braves … 1. Something for nothing since Olivera wasn’t worth much to the Braves (not the first trade Coppy has done this), 2. With this bad of an offense ANYTHING is better than nothing. Basically I feel like Kemp came out of nowhere and the Braves can insert him into the clean up spot. Yes iron glove but oh well I guess … Too bad they can’t put him at first base– then they could trade Freeman, Markakis, and two prospects for Trout … LOL !
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Hahaha you don’t understand how bad Kemp really is in the outfield. Not the kind of guy you want in right-field with all the young pitching the Braves have coming up.
kidk44
Haha braves played that one smartly!!!
CoryM
You said “the Dodgers paying $18 million and the Dodgers on the on the hook for the rest.” Just wanted to point it out.
Thanks for the update and all the hard work you all do!
satan
As a braves fan I welcome this deal. Kemp is an upgrade over hector.
k26dp 2
Neither is an upgrade over almost literally anybody else.
10blindmice
I didn’t realize Satan was a braves fan… Makes sense
braves4life1
Absolutely. Get rid of Olivera, bring on Kemp to trade him and a bundle of prospects plus a couple of Vets to acquire Mike Trout.
RunDMC
If you did not read the write-up, I’ll summarize. It’s a surprise that any team is interested in Kemp and his money owed, but a team that was considering outright release of Olivera with $30M left owed (and pending sexual assault charges) has been the only thing that made ATL interested.
Kayrall
Come on, guys. Don’t feed the troll.
braves4life1
Here is a man, or it could be a woman, who would rather see the Atlanta Braves move into the 2017 with the same bunch of ball players who got them to a last place finish in 2016. Unbelievable.
stymeedone
Mike Trout got them a last place finish?
Brixton
You aren’t getting Trout..
stymeedone
What if they throw in Markakis?
pt57
The Angels should hold out for Pierzynski.
braves fan 138
LOL
Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey
Freeman and a couple of top prospects, more like it. Unless you honestly think that the Angels will be swayed from asking for top talent by Matt Kemp’s bad contract and a couple of mediocre veteran players.
staypuft
The only trout the Braves are getting is your mom’s
dorfmac
lol
moe 3
Trouser Trout
everlastingdave
We need upvotes back so everyone can upvote you, staypuft.
srdiaz1972
Keep Dreaming!!!!
bsteady powers
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Ray Ray
Dodgers bad contracts are just becoming everyone’s currency apparently.
AddisonStreet
How about they trade Olivera back to Cuba for some cigars?
Gogerty
Obama is working on it.
bradthebluefish
Right!? I know the Padres have been interested in a 3B player, but I’d take Kemp who can produce than the guy who has failed to produce at the major league level.
Raptors Rampage
Wow, if the padres can shed kemps salary on just a bad contract swap its a win for the padres if no money changes hands.
2017-2020 $28.5 million?
Sam.rhodes16
Money is changing hands. Pads are still on the hook for almost all the money. Braves crushed this trade if that part is accurate.
Raptors Rampage
LOL doubt the reports are true since eating most of kemps money, 95% or so reported earlier, and taking back olivera contract means more money than simply keeping kemp around. So yeah, doubt thats how the deal is going down.
Could be pads send 50-75 % difference between kemp and olivera but yeah not majority of kemps entire contract
Would be majority if padres werent taking back the bad contract of olivera.
babyface67
I like it! Protection for Freddie and a much better upgrade over Olivera
Injediwetrust
So if you you had to die; would you prefer to drowned or shoot yourself.. Not sure how I feel on this one..
stymeedone
Is that like “what’s your favorite STD?” Or is it more like “Hillary or Donald?”
lilkube
Olivera will never see playing time with ATL. All that hype for nothing. I also feel getting Kemp is like us getting Justin Upton and he was horrible as a Brave.
youknowit
WAR puppets will always hate Kemp because he rates horribly by WAR, yet Kemp has been a solid contributor and worked on his defense since becoming a Padre. He’s gone from overrated to very underrated but still a poor defender but passable; also consider QO are 17m next season, he isn’t that over paid now that free agents have experienced huge raises.
thediesel4
Personally, Kemp in LF isn’t a huge issue. He may be better off over there with Inciarte covering a lot of ground. Kemp, Inciarte, and Smith OF wouldn’t be horrible for Braves. Why not, we aren’t winning anything. The good FAs aren’t until after 17 season. He can be flipped to an AL team for nothing just some cash next season? With us eating a little of his salary with our enourmus caproom.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
The difference is he’s owed that much per year for 3 more years, the QO is just one year. And yes, Kemp’s defense IS that bad. So bad in fact that it negates any goodwill he might have earned with the bat.
Cam
Kemp and passable do not belong in the same sentence. He may have worked on his defense, but clearly it hasn’t worked, he is still absolutely awful in the field. Anyone’s eye test that sees differently, is a sure sign they need a check-up.
And for many years, Kemp was my hands down, favorite player.
davidcoonce74
Kemp is bad; WAR has nothing to do with it. Watch him play. He runs like an old woman carrying a piano and he doesn’t have the faintest idea about how to run a route. He’s drawn like 11 UIBB all season. He’s absolutely awful.
bravesfan 7
What are you talking about Justin was great with the braves
Jon429
Only in months that begin with the letter ‘A’, he was pretty bad the rest of the time.
bravos4evr
Justin Upton was great for the Braves (7 WAR over 2 seasons)
AUTiger7222
Justin Upton was terrible with the Braves? Clearly we didn’t watch the same guy for two years on a daily basis.
lilkube
Whomp whomp
TDKnies 2
Well I’m no fan of Kemp but this is a trade if be ok with. Both teams dump players they don’t want on each other and hopefully even out the money owed.
waiting4godot
I’m scratching my head. Were the Pads that desperate to rid themselves of him? Or does this make sense purely as a payroll dump?
youknowit
Renfroe is ready to be called up and Margot has nice all around AAA numbers while leading the Pacific Coast League in OF assist.
Garmo87
Rangers should trade Shin Sho Choo for Kemp.
jimbo504 2
Preller is not good at trading.
Raptors Rampage
Yeah, not good at trading…….
All star wil myers for ross and turner
Epsionza, top 20 prospect, for pomeranz who he got out of alonso and scrabble
Naylor castillo cosart and capps for cashner rea and guerrerro
Norris for hahn and alvarez
Lawson and thompson they got from upton and the comp pick which they saved money on that cost them j peterson d peterson fried smith
Margot allen asjuae guerrera for kimbrel that cost them wisler maybin quentin and paroubeck
Benoit for de los santos
Rodney, 39, for paddack
Terrible trades by the padres LOL.
davidcoonce74
I like the selectivity of this list.
Norris is awful, maybe the worst regular in baseball this season.
Kemp is horrible, maybe the worst regular in baseball this season.
Melvin Upton was a nice piece the Padres gave away for nothing
Preller was offered Michael Fulmer for Justin Upton straight up last season and REFUSED.
Preller couldn’t figure out how to trade Tyson Ross for anything and now he gets nothing.
Seth Smith is better than Brandon Maurer, although Maurer is getting better.
Olivera is a POS but I doubt he ever puts on a Padres uniform .
Preller is doing much better this season but we can’t just pretend his moves in the 2014-15 offseason don’t matter.
Raptors Rampage
Wow, your comment is grossly uneducated david.
Have you seen jesse hahn recently? Who cares what norris has done at the plate which metrics say is more bad luck given his low BABIP and how hard hes hit the ball and has been stellar defensively, but dont let facts like these stop you from an uneducated statement. How bad norris has been the padres have gotten more out of norris than the As have out of hahn and alvarez, who they DFA.
Kemp trade was bad, but considering he gave away a a defense 1st catcher in grandal with a PED history and a 4. 5 starter in eflin he didnt give up much. Only thing was the money, which he cut down by 40% just now.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about the upton situation apparently. Did you notice that rodriguez and the jays saving 5 mill was about the same structure of ubaldo and the other prospects? Guess not. In both scenarios the padres would have saved roughly 5 mill whether it was paying tye jays or taking ubaldo back. The fact you say just gave away shows you dont understand that TWO teams had similar deals with varying ways to make it happens clearly shows what uptons value around the league was. Despite what YOU think he was qorth, what the league value was actually mattered.
OH WOW MICHAEL FULMER? You mean a pitcher the padres would be wasting 3 years of service time on for seasons which they arent contending? 2016, 2017, 2018 3 wasted seasons risking injury. The QO for upton offered more value because it came with roughly 3 million slot allowment. Acquiring talent for 2019 held more weight than fulmer did. But dang, michael fulmer??????
Uh, you do realize tyson ross still has one more year of team control and can be dealt during the winter meetings right? Again, apparently not. Given the low quality of pitching in next years FA market Ross could easily net a decent package.
But lets see here- trades won
*Espinoza for Pomeranz for alonso
*Norris for Hahn and Alvarez
*Naylor castillo capps cosart for cashner rea guerrero
*Margot allen asjuae guerrera for kimbrel for wisler maybin paroubeck quentin
*Cory mazzoni and brad wieck for alex torress
*Jon edwards marcus greene for Venabl
*As of right now wil myers for turner and ross
*De los santos for benoit
*Paddack for rodney
*Seidenberger for liriano
*Bethancourt for kelly and rodriguez
Trades we are waiting to see
*Lawson and thompson and potts for upton for j peterson d peterson smith and fried
*Jay for gyorko and 5 mill
*rodriguez for upton jr
Trades he los
Grandal and eflin for kemp
Thats 12 trade he came out on top in vs. 1 bad so far cause we wont know what happens with some of the deals for a few years.
Sam.rhodes16
You sound mad af that the other commenter exposed how moronic your original comment was lol
davidcoonce74
Paddack just tore his elbow ligament so we’ll have to see on that one. Michael Fulmer is probably one of the 30 best pitchers in baseball this season and is quite young; I’d love to see him in the Padres rotation rather than the lottery ticket in Potts.
It’s been 100 games now for Norris. If that luck is going to turn around it may as well start now. It might just be that he’s selling out hard for power. His 270 OBP is the more worrisome part of his line.
Jedd Gyorko is quietly having a pretty good year, actually. Maybin has been good since being traded and is still only 29, but can’t stay healthy.
Trea Turner is going to be a star, maybe even a superstar. He’s been fantastic in the majors so far, as has Joe Ross. Myers has obviously been great too, now that Preller’s absurd attempt to make him a center-fielder is over. That feels like a wash. The Padres desperately could use a shortstop, which is a refrain that’s been played for years and years now.
Padres aren’t even pretending anymore that Tyson Ross is rehabbing or preparing to pitch or anything. His season is done and his career is probably in jeopardy; shoulders are tricky.
Preller has done a better job, for sure, but we can’t just pretend his attempt to go “all-in” last offseason wasn’t a total disaster that he’s had to spend this season fixing.
BoldyMinnesota
Some people just form opinions, even if they aren’t backed up by facts I guess
southi
I certainly won’t say that every trade Preller has made has been bad (I think he’s made a few good ones for sure) but in my opinion he definitely lost out on the trade that netted the Padres Upton from Atlanta. One year of Upton on a bad team (of course there is still a chance the compensation pick will play out well) was not worth the price paid.
Jace Peterson has been decent, if not great.
Mallex Smith seems to have lots of potential (even if he is currently still suffering from a broken thumb).
Matt Wisler has had his moments, but has struggled with his location and confidence at times (I mean who wouldn’t struggle with confidence with the Braves offense behind him).
Dustin Peterson is absolutely destroying AA over the last few weeks in Mississippi, and could well develop into a solid corner outfielder in his own right.
No, none of those guys have done great yet by any means, BUT the braves still have control of them for several seasons. The chances are highly in the braves favor that they as a group significantly surpass the 3.6 war that Upton accrued last season.
NL_East_Rivalry
It was fried not whistler
bravesfan 7
I guess he’s the power bat that the braves want but he doesn’t get on base
lilkube
Sounds like another Justin Upton trade.
lilkube
Sounds like the Justin Upton trade.
jd396
Maybe the Braves plan is to release Kemp. They can add him to the list of people who they’re paying to be good five years ago.
sdmexicanf00d
Opens up a spot for hunter renfroe
chuckymorris
This is a great trade for the Braves. Getting oliviera’s problems out of the organization and bringing on a high upside veteran
k26dp 2
Kemp has absolutely zero upside.
RunDMC
If it’s more than Olivera and his off-the-field problems, it’s an upgrade.
madisonbumtoucher
He’ll sell some tickets and will give Freeman some protection in the lineup. And they could flip him if the time is ever right. Smart move by Braves, they have plenty of money.
dorfmac
I don’t know about the tickets, but you’re right about a little protection. I don’t think Kemp is the household name he was 5 years ago, and nowhere near what we baseball fans thought he could become. It’s too bad, too – I always liked him.
madisonbumtoucher
Yeah I mean he’s still gonna hit 30 dingers and 100 RBIs this year.
lilkube
Seems like another Justin Upton situation from a few years back.
holecamels35
Let’s see how many teams Kemp can get traded to, half the league will be paying his salary at some point.
Phil253
The Friars are going to end up paying all of MLB to play against them aren’t they?
youknowit
To be determined if earlier reports of them absorbing are true or if taking Olivera off Braves hands is enough?
Niekro
Might as well have just done a deal for Pablo at least his weight issue has the potential of being fixed, and the money isn’t that much different.
mikeyst13
Padres are gonna end up paying 10x more on OFs playing for other teams than the ones on their own next season.
krillin
Lol that’s the truth. That sucks
krillin
I am totally ok with this deal honestly. Even if Kemp is a “has been”
Sam.rhodes16
Olivera is a “never was”
krillin
Lol truth
bravos4evr
if the Padres send $15m along with Kemp, this is a good deal for the Braves. $10- $12m and it’s pretty much a wash.
of all the “meh” deals out there, this one might be the “mehest”
sddew
And we should believe what O’Brien says when he posts that the deal is between the Braves and Dodgers!?
kent814
This doesnt make sense for the braves
braves4life1
Now Coppy moves Kemp, Inciarte, Vizcaino, Jenkins, Sorako, Albeis plus….
Braves get: Mike Trout
GreenCustom24
I hate you.
Gogerty
GreenCustom, you are awesome. Two best comments of the day.
GreenCustom24
Also, who are Albeis and Sorako? Every trade I see you suggest has “Albeis” involved. Just because you messed up on your Create-A-Player on The Show doesn’t mean they can be used as trade pieces.
stymeedone
Don’t forget to throw in Markakis!
sunset117
I don’t understand this for the Padres. The guy their getting is a Jose Reyes case while Kemp may not be his former self but he has 20HRs and 50-60Rbis. Can someone explain this move for the Padres for me?
agentx
Kemp is a near-replacement player because of his negative value in the field, on the basepaths, and his below-average ability to get on base.
Perhaps the Padres FO also decided with Hunter Renfroe ready for primetime that it would be better to trade Kemp than risk the kind of clubhouse drama the Dodgers FO and Mattingly reportedly had to defuse when they asked Kemp to move from CF to RF two years ago.
sunset117
Ok, all that is fair (and I didn’t know about that drama moving CF to rF but believe it). However I’m not seeing what the Padres gain? So they get rid of his contract and keep paying more than 75% of it, and take on the contract of a domestic violence guy on suspension? I’m missing how they win or how they really benefit. If their paying what their paying on kemp keep him on the bench but I guess that goes back to his drama u mentioned?
agentx
Purely speculation on my part, but the chance that Kemp might disrupt the “fresh start” clubhouse that SD is building with an outburst plus the $13.5MM to $15.5MM now being reported may have been deemed reason enough to cut bait on Kemp.
davidcoonce74
Well, Kemp was a sunk cost. He has no real value at all. The Padres saved 25 million dollars, which is probably the best they could have hoped for. Olivera is going to be released immediately. I’m more surprised at how little they got out of Melvin Upton, but I guess there wasn’t much of a market for him.
sunset117
Kemp may be a has been BUT he’s still suiting up and putting up decent numbers. The other guy isn’t even playing
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Interesting. I wonder how much money is going to be involved in this deal, if it comes to fruition. It would be quite a feat if the Padres could rid themselves of kemp.
padresad
I would hope not very much at all considering Padres would be taking on Olivera contract.
kent814
This makes no sense for the braves
Brave86
You mean the Padres
halos101
males great sense for pads. salary relief and more experience to young guys
halos101
makes*
rizdakc99
Man… How much will the Padres be paying the next couple years for Shields, Upton, Kemp, and even Gyorko and Cashner to go away….
Raptors Rampage
Doesnt really matter. All the talent acquired by preller has an ETA of 2019 or later. Money spent on 2017 and 2018 has no bearing on the ultimate plan.
Talent acquired this year and last year develops, suck in 2017 and 2018 for higher draft position those years, compete in 2019 and beyond. Sign players once money from upton, off books end of 2017, cashner, off books end of 2016, shields, off books end of 2019, gyorko, off the books at end of 2020, and we will see about kemps.
The money spent now wont hinder money towards extensions with.talent hes acquired.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Exactly. It fits into their plan of contending starting around 2019/2020. These next couple of years are going to be rebuilding years, but once they pass and a lot of money comes off of the books, they will have flexibility to when they begin to contend.
kbarr888
Maybe the Padres will DFA Olivera, then go after Jay Bruce with the money they saved on Kemp……???
Niekro
With no money mentioned yet their is a 24 million dollar difference if the Padres just saved 24 million they would most likely go after Cespedes, someone who has hit in big parks his entire career not someone like Bruce who has been in a hitters paradise his entire career.
youknowit
Or play Dickerson who hit homer in his first 4 starts; call up Renfroe who’s one of the best hitters and AAA and call and call up Margot his leads the PCL in OF assist.
halos101
no point of getting Bruce. they’re giving the playing time to they’re young outfielders
HaloShane
Boy….. And I thought the dumbest organization in the MLB was the Angels….. I admit I was wrong, the Padres have them beat.
jrowe1979
So Olivera is owed 28.5m, divided by 3 years left on Kemp deal means the savings is 9.5m per year of a player the Braves view as zero value.
Kemp is owed 18m less the Olivera savings means Kemp costs the Braves 8.5m per year. That’s not a bad cost for a OF putting up at least some production which the Braves currently don’t have. Again this assumes Olivera has no value
jrowe1979
Wow 12 million coming back to Atlanta, lowers the cost of Kemp to 4.5 per year. 4.5million to replace Olivera with Kemp is definitely worth it. Good deal for Atlanta
NL_East_Rivalry
That’s the way I see it.
gammaraze
Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be how this is working… somehow, the Padres got the Braves to agree to pay ALL of Kemp’s contract and are just sending the money the Dodgers owe. The article now reflects this…
“the Braves are effectively getting Kemp for $25.5MM over three years — an annual rate of $8.5MM.”
Yeah, except you’re forgetting that the Braves are paying ALL of Olivera’s contract if you look at it that way.
NL_East_Rivalry
Yeah, that moves it from a good trade to a meh one in my opinion.
Braves are banking on that Kemp would get 3/27 in free agency and thus gaining a slight discount.
Hopefully he puts up decent numbers next year enough to flip him, but I am just glad we have someone that can hit home runs now
mrpadre19
The 10.5 coming to the Braves us the 10.5 the Dodgers are paying to the Padres.
bsteady powers
Braves will probably try to trade him for a prospect
halos101
nobody’s trading any value for kemp
Ray Ray
They said the same thing about Melvin Upton two years ago. You never know what will happen in this game.
halos101
good point. but I think he meant trade kemp right away for prospect, which led to my comment. But your right about the Upton thing
MikePLV10
An AL team would trade a good prospect for kemp if some money was involved.. But I think he is the Braves new Left fielder.
tylerall5
I feel the braves are getting a good deal. A recognizable name that will hit home runs to help fill the new ball park, seems like a good move, especially since their outfield is full of speedy, single hitters.
agentx
As for Olivera, Preller should do what Cashman appeared to do with Kei Igawa after he flamed out and banish him to the minor leagues.
It seemed unfair to me in Igawa’s case but totally appropriate here.
RunDMC
Wow – after seeing the financials, this looks impressive for ATL, getting Kemp on a $5M per year basis (difference between contracts), especially when considering Olivera was essentially dead-weight (if you believe he would never have played again for ATL). All-in-all, Coppy managed to turn something out of nothing.
Gogerty
What I like most is we lost nothing.
MikePLV10
I have a feeling that this is the first of a few trades that the Braves will make before the deadline Monday.. As a left fielder I like Kemp.. Especially when Ender or Mallex is in center!!
jyoung8921
Not a terrible move by the Braves. Who knows? The Braves could end up flipping Kemp if he gets it together.
braves4life1
Now the Braves will use Kemp in a multiplayer trade to get Mike Trout
BoldyMinnesota
No the Angels will trade trout and add in prospects to get kemp now
WAH1447
The Angels have no prospects
petersdylan36
Chances pretty good they just DFA Olivera?
Howard-NY13
I can see why the braves would do this deal because they won’t be a contender this year or probably next year also but the year following(2018) maybe they would be a contender and they could have Swanson and kemp in the middle of the order with Teheran(if kept) at the top of the rotation. But I could see how this is an AWFUL deal because this could be exactly like Justin Upton but I don’t think it will be as bad as that. Olivera has a lot of potential and trading him because of the suspension for kemp might come back to haunt them.
agentx
Why do you and others within this thread characterize the Justin Upton acquisition as such a bad deal??
Upton had an OBP over .340 and an OPS over .800 in his two seasons with ATL.
I get that Prado was a fan favorite and Brandon Drury would be nice to have around. But after Upton’s performance, a Chris Johnson batting title (albeit a somewhat “empty” one) and the acquisition of Peterson, Fried, and Mallex Smith for Upton, how could any reasonable person consider either deal involving Justin Upton bad?
mrpadre19
By that time Kemp will have to be a DH…..he won’t be able to field as he already has trouble.
Who knows….the NL could have the DH by then?
R.D.
The Braves have desperately needed a right handed power hitter. Kemp isn’t ideal, but he’s just 31 and presumably Petco has played into his mediocre offensive stats(still an awful defender, but we dealt with Gattis in LF just fine).
I’m guessing this is gonna lead to Aybar being released.
Jace – 2B
Beckham – SS
Freeman – 1B
Kemp – LF
Markakis – RF
Garcia – 3B
Inciarte – CF
A.J – C
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Turner Field won’t help him. There’s no telling how the new stadium will play.
agentx
I’m surprised that ATL was able to pull off Olivera-for-Kemp without including Aybar, who could’ve hit at least as well as Rosales the rest of the way and contributed superior defense.
halos101
Padres aren’t concerned with winning with aging players. they dumped salary in this and just got more at bats for young outfielders. love what preller did here
agentx
I like the trade, too.
I suggested Aybar as another possible July or August trade piece thinking the Padres were sending more cash than the $10.5MM initially pledged by the Dodgers. Reports that only that $10.5MM is going to ATL renders my Aybar proposition moot.
timpa
GIGO for sure.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
What’s the point Jon hart will just trade him again at the winter meanings. Feel sorry for Kemp getting traded twice for average players. Hector Olivera is trash. Get someone good back. Jon Hart and dude from San Diego are stupid. This is the kind of move that gets you fired
MikePLV10
^hahahaha John Hart is stupid… That’s a good one.. Please explain how he is? He has planned a rebuild that started with turning a bottom feeding farm system into arguably the top system in 18 months. I love the Braves and would love for them to be the team from the 90s still but we were a ticking time bomb, one injury from being absolutely terrible before he took over.. Can’t make orange juice out of lemons!! Believe in the process.. It will be a quicker turn around than the royals and Cubs went through!
bravos4evr
you don’t follow baseball much eh?
Raptors Rampage
Yeah, i suspect this report is WAY off honestly.
Next 3 years kemp would of been owed 55.5 million if you take off the 15.3 saved and add on the 28.5 owed to olivera it totals to about 69. So doubt the padres just added 13.5 million.
Brian 2
Very curious of the timing. Both teams trying to dump players, why not wait until after the deadline and put them on waivers before doing something? Maybe a team that didn’t get what they wanted at the deadline takes a chance on one
braves4life1
Don’t feel sorry for Kemp, he is about to be apart of a multiplayer trade to the Halos for Mike Trout. Kemp belongs in the American League
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Never gonna happen. Trout is gonna be in Anaheim his whole career. I hope he leaves but the braves are 4 or 5 years from doing anything.
24TheKid
Trout belongs with the Braves
braves2
I wish I had your crystal ball. Trout is going to costs someone a LOT of money and he prolly would like to win a WS for a change. Angels have the money but a poor FO and farm system. Be hard to convince him to stay. Also the Braves are much closer than 4-5 years away from competing. And to be realistic they have what it takes to aquire trout but they would be stupid to part with those pieces and it will never happen.
GreenCustom24
You’re apparently used to the “Force Trade” option in video games. I used to do stuff like that when I was 12.
Get over it and be realistic. Braves are NEVER getting Trout. We’d have to trade Teheran, Swanson, Mallex, Folty, Minter and Fried for him and even that may not be enough to pry him away. You don’t collect that much talent to throw it away for one guy. Wouldn’t be a point.
bravos4evr
yeah, Trout is such an odd situation. He has so much value that the package required to acquire him,would be impossible for a FO to part with.
Smacky
Please Stop
tylerall5
Why do you keep posting the same comment over and over again?
halos101
he’s said before he just loves swing reactions lol… sad
ZachPadres24
“Multiplayer” because it happened in The Show with one of your friends
1738hotlinebling
MIKE TROUT IS NOT GOING TO THE LAST PLACE BRAVES, WHAT LOGIC DOES THAT MAKE, HOW WOULD THAT DEAL BE DONE, SO YOUR SAYING A TEAM THAT HAS ALIENATED ITS FANBASE BY TRADING FOR MULTIPLE YOUNG PLAYERS IN PART OF A BIGGER PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, WOULD THROW THEIR FUTURE AWAY FOR ONE , ONEEEEE OVERRATED PLAYER. you do not know how to use the internet , go outside an play
1738hotlinebling
The Padres are such a garbage organization, how could they take that AAA loser Olivera for Kemp
gammaraze
Pure salary relief.
Raptors Rampage
LOL they just cleared kemps salary off the books completely and created around 25 million in cap space, roughly 8 million l each year for the next 3 years.
Thats why.
Zcash10
Could Kemp be back on the move once he’s a brave?? I don’t see him staying there too long! Anyone else think so too?
Gogerty
Interesting idea, but that is a lot of mixed money.
sals029
Dodgers have to be laughing their asses off
Injediwetrust
At what part. They owe Olivera 30M as well. Or that Latos was released after popping off to Mattingly, or that Alex Wood has pitched 56 total inn.? Not sure they can point a finger at the Padres on this trade.
Gogerty
Nice
Raptors Rampage
Braves got fleeced. They essentially traded the contract of kemp 3 years 54 million for oliveras 4 years 28.5 million.
Might have just DFA olivera and saved the cash theyre spending on kemp now
sweetmarie
What was Kemp really doing for San Diego, besides selling jerseys? Obvious move for a rebuilding team here, unless I’m missing something… To get a good 20.5MM off the books is clearly a good move (15.5MM for the 3 years + 5MM this year right?). So I think the trade is fine, in fact I’d almost be confused if they had decided to keep him.
The real question is whether Kemp should have ever been with the Padres in the first place. But that’s a totally separate question. Sure maybe they screwed up by getting him, but it would be far worse to do nothing about it! Besides if last year’s Padres team had somehow lucked out and made the wild card, Preller might have done this exact same trade now
Gogerty
Seems like a great trade on both sides. Love getting a bat for basically $9MM a year. Have been hoping a trade for Kemp would happen for months, getting out of Olivera’s contract made it even better.
raykraft88
Agreed
Lance
Kemp is still on target for a 30-100 season after driving in 100 runs last year for one of the worst offenisve teams in baseball. Injuries have taken their toll on his legs. But he still can hit. Probably should be a DH in the AL. The Padres are bad but Kemp wasn’t their problem.
Lance
The Padres are lousy, but Kemp’s not the fault. He drove in 100 runs last year and is on target to do it again with 30+HR’s
Brixton
Preller made out like a bandit here
ronnyalton
23 homeruns 69 rbis. Ill take that to the braves . All ive got to say. Kemp will do well. Olivera may also like the change. I welcome this trade. Coppy is a genius.
amjr
Preller busted into the gm scene pretending to be superman hoping to take the Friars to the World Series in his first year at the helm. He even boldly predicted a World Series for his new club right off the bat. Which was ballsy given the Friars have never won a World Series title. Every move he made was a failure. Stewart with the D’backs is another “superman” wannabe gm who is also failing miserably. Why do these rookie gm’s feel they need to win it all in their first year? Instead they are on their way to ending their careers prematurely.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Random thought….
Would the Braves be a good fit for a trade with the Pirates for McCutchen either this winter or the one after it?
Pirates clear room for Meadows, get back some prospects, etc.
Braves get a star player for the new ball park (assuming he regains form after bad first half this year, of course).
Cutch moves closer to home (FL).
raykraft88
He would cost way too much and then be a FA. Only reason for getting Kemp is by dumping Olivera, what the balance that they are paying Kemp is a better deal than signing a FA to a 3 yr deal at the end of this season.
gamemusic3 2
Dodgers get Wood, Thompson, Montas, and Grandal for Kemp and Olivera LOL
stxgb
so it kinda seems like Markakis will be gone if not by the deadline or traded by the beginning of next year and it will be Kemp in LF Smith in Center and Inciarte in RF. i like the range in left and center and at least Smith will be able to help cover some ground for Kemp to help hide his defensive flaws
LPhife24
Nice veteran player for a young roster. Got rid of baggage. I like the trade