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Rockies Sign Wade Davis

By Steve Adams | December 29, 2017 at 4:00pm CDT

The Rockies have officially agreed to a contract with free-agent closer Wade Davis, as Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports first reprted. Davis, a client of Jet Sports Management, receives a three-year, $52MM contract that includes a vesting player option for a fourth season which could take the deal’s value to $66MM over four years. That contract’s $17.33MM annual value is a record among relievers, Passan notes.

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The fourth-year option, worth $15MM, will vest as a player option for the 2021 season if Davis finishes 30 games in 2020. If it does not vest, it’ll instead be a mutual option with a $1MM buyout, per Passan. Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (via Twitter) that Davis will earn $16MM in 2018, $18MM in 2019 and $17MM in 2020. FanRag’s Jon Heyman tweets that Davis’s deal includes a $1MM assignment bonus if he is traded, adding that he’ll also pick up full no-trade rights after being traded once.

The addition of Davis seems likely to end the Rockies’ pursuit of a reunion with 2017 closer Greg Holland, who declined a $15MM player option and rejected a $17.4MM qualifying offer following the season. Davis, too, rejected a qualifying offer, meaning he’ll cost the Rockies a pick in the 2018 draft.

As a team that benefited from revenue sharing and did not exceed the luxury tax in 2017, the Rockies will forfeit their third-highest selection in next year’s draft. For the Rockies, who have a selection in Competitive Balance Round A, their third-highest pick will be their second-round selection in 2018. The Cubs, meanwhile, will secure a compensatory pick after Competitive Balance Round B. (While Davis’ contract is north of $50MM, the Cubs are a revenue sharing payor, thus disqualifying them for compensation after the first round of the draft.)

[Related: Updated Colorado Rockies depth chart and Rockies payroll outlook]

Colorado has clearly identified the bullpen as an area of focus this offseason, as they’ve now dished out more than $100MM worth of guarantees in the form of Davis’ $52MM and the respective three-year, $27MM deals given to lefty Jake McGee and right-hander Bryan Shaw. That continues the aggressive bullpen spending the team began last winter when signing Mike Dunn and Holland in free agency.

Davis, of course, will capably step into the void left by Holland’s departure and could very well serve as an upgrade. In 58 2/3 innings with the Cubs last year, Davis pitched to a 2.30 ERA with 12.1 K/9, 4.3 BB/9 and a 40.5 percent ground-ball rate while collecting 32 saves. Those excellent run-prevention numbers continued an impressive run of dominance for Davis, who owns a 1.45 ERA in 241 1/3 innings since converting to a reliever on a full-time basis in 2014.

The 2017 season wasn’t without red flags, though. Davis’ 40.5 percent grounder rate marked a significant drop-off from the 48.5 percent clip he posted in 2016, and his 94.3 mph average fastball velocity was his lowest since moving to the bullpen. That velocity drop is all the more troubling when juxtaposed with a 2016 season in which Davis landed on the disabled list with a forearm strain.

There’s risk in any long-term deal for a reliever, though, and the Rockies’ aggressive spending in this market has demonstrated less aversion to those perils than most clubs throughout the league. For a Colorado team that features a very young and largely inexperienced rotation, the stockpiling of quality relief arms will help manager Bud Black to lessen the workload of his young arms by leaning more heavily on a group of experienced late-inning options.

Of course, it’s worth bearing in mind that the three additions won’t necessarily enhance the Rockies’ 2018 unit beyond the one it possessed in the season prior. By the end of the season, the relief corps included Holland, McGee, and midseason trade acquisition Pat Neshek. At a minimum, though, the organization can likely now anticipate that it’ll enter the coming season with a relief group that’s as good or better than its productive ’17 outfit.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. brewcrew08

    7 years ago

    Woah. Big get for the Rockies.

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    • dimitriinla

      7 years ago

      Big overpay–yikes.

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      • hiflew

        7 years ago

        I doubt that. It’s only 2.3 million more than they paid Holland this season. They added a couple million AAV to get 3 guaranteed years instead of 4. The vesting option is the same price that Holland turned down this season, so Davis is almost guaranteed to decline it should it vest. Looking back, don’t you think the Giants would have signed Melancon at 3/51 instead of 4/60? Now when 2020 rolls around, if the Rox are ready for a rebuild Davis could easily be flipped for a team wanting him for 1 year instead of 2.

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        • CursedRangers

          7 years ago

          Davis is getting paid roughly $100k per out he records. Roughly $72k per batter he faces. Approximately $15-20k per pitch he throws.

          That’s insanity.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Meh. It’s what the market will bear. I doubt the Rockies owner is going to lose sleep tonight wondering how he’s going to pay his mortgage or anything like that.

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        • takeyourbase

          7 years ago

          Nice breakdown!!! At that rate sign me up for 100 pitches. I can do that without my arm falling off.

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          You might doubt it. But the majority does not.

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  2. feldma_p

    7 years ago

    They just resigned Greg Holland though…

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    • lonestardodger

      7 years ago

      No they didn’t

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    • EndinStealth

      7 years ago

      Hahaha

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    • zachattack

      7 years ago

      They did not

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    • emo2002

      7 years ago

      Wrong, Holland is still a FA.

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    • saavedra

      7 years ago

      What he meant was that they just added a player with the same role and similar value than one they lost… I think. Personally I believe Wade Davis is better and safer.

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Not everyone can pitch in Denver.
        Holland has proved that he can, but Davis has not

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        • GoRockies

          7 years ago

          Holland sucked so bad in the second half that they removed him from the closers role for a little while

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    • hamelin4mvp

      7 years ago

      Congratulations, Feldma. I’ve never seen someone get 0 up arrows and 24 down arrows (as of 3 p.m. CST) on one MLBTR post before.

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      • Marytown1

        7 years ago

        Even the troll that’s sister makes $8k a week from home and so does their brother doesn’t even get that many down arrows

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    • takeyourbase

      7 years ago

      Pretty much. But I think Holland is holding out for a minimum of 4 years

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      • CompanyAssassin

        7 years ago

        If he is, he’s especially not getting it now.

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  3. brewcrew08

    7 years ago

    And not going back to the Cubs is pretty sweet too

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    • WhiteSox4ever

      7 years ago

      Yeah love it !!

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      • PixelMelonz

        7 years ago

        Lmao Sox fan talking as if our closer is gonna affect us being better than them anyway 😉

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          2 teams that will not compete with the cubs this year. Sorry Brewers it’s still Cardinals Cubs. Just enjoy the adults playing.

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        • mike127

          7 years ago

          Yep…bad teams (or much lesser) teams like the Brewers and White Sox are more concerned about what the Cubs do (or don’t do) that what their teams do.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          Yet the Brewers finished ahead of the Cardinals last year? Unless I read the standings wrong..

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Cardinals had a bad year. They are better this year. Brewers did almost nothing so far to better the team.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          They had a bad year because they have no offense. They had a bad year with guys like Yadi (offensively), Pham, DeJong playing out of their heads. Not to mention their bullpen is worse than the Brewers and that’s saying something.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          Any time Waino and his 5 ERA is your #3 I’ll take my chances.

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        • CardsNation5

          7 years ago

          Son, the Cardinals are about to make everyone remember who they are. Better coaching staff and Oquendo is back so the defense will be a whole lot better. Shaky defense is what hurt them the last couple of years so expect them to return to dominance

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          You have to have talent to be dominant.

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        • Ry.the.Stunner

          7 years ago

          How did Yadi play out of his head? He had a .273/.312/.439 slash line with 18 HRs. That’s below average, even for him.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          18 HR matched what he put up from 2014-2016 combined..the 82 RBI were a career high. The .439 slugging was his highest since 2013 when he was 30. The .273 average was only 11 points lower than his career average. Not to mention 9 steals were more than years 2013-2016 as well.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        7 years ago

        The hate between not so bright Cubs fans and not so bright Sox fans is pretty dumb. Support your team with passion and pride, but there’s nothing wrong with rooting for all the teams in the city if you’re a true Chicagoan.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Exactly.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          I understand the Yankees Mets rivalry cause one is the greatest franchise in the game and the other one is the Mets , but Sox and Cubs teams have been pretty underwhelming for as long as we’ve all been alive. Just root for your teams and be happy when one or the other is doing good.

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          let’s just call people stupid instead

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        • santosPinkyToe

          7 years ago

          A true Chicagoan picks one or the other and f the one you don’t pick. Truth.

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          a rivalry is a rivalry. If you only feel it when both teams ate good or in some other limited capacity, you aren’t a real fan

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          There is no rivalry. Here’s another Cub fan deciding who a real Cub fan is. No wonder everyone else hates us.

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        • jd396

          7 years ago

          Guy probably puts ketchup on his hot dogs

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        • Jockstrapper

          7 years ago

          Which is why you always comment on Cubs-related posts, ChiSoxCity? Because you’re so positive and support your Sox? Lol

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        • jonsteele

          7 years ago

          This.

          I’ll never understand the vitriol towards people who cheer for someone else or who tries to determine what constitutes a fan or not. I love my Cardinals and always want them to win but that doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to like other teams or check in on them. It’s shirts vs shirts, millionaires playing millionaires for a trophy lol.

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          Yankee/met Rivalry has nothing on bosox/ Yankees
          Doyuers/ Giants

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        • Ry.the.Stunner

          7 years ago

          They’re talking intracity rivalries, not rivalries in general.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Irrelevant.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          If you’re an unevolved subhuman, sure.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Apparently you don’t read my posts. I’m very supportive of what Hahn is doing for the Sox—been hoping for it for years. I’m also happy for Cubs fans finally getting a WS championship; their fans deserved it after 100+ years. Cubs fans aren’t particularly nice to Sox fans though. I attribute to the fact most are bandwagon transplants from other states, or suburbanites who look down on real Chicagoans, but that has nothing to do with the team itself.

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        • Bryzzo2016

          7 years ago

          The Cubs/Sox rivalry is no different than the rivalry between a bug and a windshield. Due to ratings, attendance, merchandising, pending major TV deal, etc… the Cubs remain the beast in Chicago. Reinsdorf is forced to run the Sox like a small market team. Top free agents never sign there, they really can’t compete with the Cubs. They FINALLY did a tear down in an ATTEMPT to do what the Cubs/Astros did, BUT many MANY teams have tried this. You need more than a subscription to Baseball Prospectus to build a consistent winner. Theo/Jed are tested, one of the smartest front offices in baseball. It’s more than just “prospects”. How is your player development? Scouting? Coaching? So much more to being a successful front office than just acquiring prospects. The Sox always have been the second team in the second city. Now with the excitement surrounding the way the Cubs were/are built, that separation will only increase. I would feel like a bully trolling Sox fans. If they want to obsess over the Cubs, let them. Doesn’t mean we have to do the same. I’m more focused on what the Dodgers and Nata are doing, to a lesser extent the Cards.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          You sound like a class act, Bryozzo. The typical arrogance Cubs fans (unfounded I might add) makes your team easy to hate by everyone else. Most of you are jerks who know little to nothing about the game. You spout game attendance figures (no one cares) and childish insults about White Sox fans as if you’re god’s gift to the sports world. I guess you guys are special, but not in the way you like to think. I don’t hate the team, but I dislike shallow, no class fans like you (who are sadly typical of Cubs fans on the web).

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Attendance figures do matter. The team needs to make money to spend money FYI

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          So, put that into context. What do home game attendance have to do with the White Sox? Any real success should be measured by winning seasons and championships. The White Sox have 2 World Series championships during the last 100 years. The Cubs have one.

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        • Bryzzo2016

          7 years ago

          Attendance matters, ratings matters. No one cares about the Sox, even less now. They’ve always been the red headed stepkid of Chicago. They can’t attract free agents, their front office grabs more headlines for dysfunction than they do for making solid moves (Sale and scissors, the LaRoche embarrassment). They go “all in” acquiring bums like Frazier THEN end up with a worse record than teams that are openly in rebuild mode. It must suck, I have empathy for your bitterness. No need to add delusional and pathetic to the mix ChiSox, it’s already brutal for you. The Western Indiana White Sux are the only team in a MAJOR market that has to operate like a SMALL market team. They should relocate to Montreal so that sad lil franchise could have a chance to prosper. Why are you even in the thread? Per usual, no mention of the Sux in this post. Run along to the AAA board and leave the adults alone.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Haha, what a scumbag. I’m glad you’re a Cubs fan. Apparently, the previous 108 years has taught you nothing. Karma’s a mother effer, and it’s going to catch up with you sooner than you think.

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        • WhiteSox4ever

          7 years ago

          Dude if your a “true” White Sox fan you hate the Cubs thats how it’s been forever. Really!!

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          A considerable percentage of the fan base are clueless a-holes and dirtbags, but I don’t hate the team or it’s fans. I pity them.

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      • chesteraarthur

        7 years ago

        It must suck to have a team that is so lame that you have to waste your time rooting against the better, more popular, financially more successful team in your city.

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    • Kevin Bailey

      7 years ago

      With their MO, the Cubs don’t spend big on closers. However, 3/53 is a pretty good deal for a pitcher like Davis. Think Rockies got a steal.

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      • kenneth cole

        7 years ago

        You read the article? It’s the highest per year for any reliever lol

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        • Kevin Bailey

          7 years ago

          Yes I read the article, Yes 17.33 per is high, but if anyone expected him to get less is not looking at the market for relievers. Holland will get something similar.

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        • justinept

          7 years ago

          Is $17.33 million high? Or is it a steal? It really can’t be both.

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        • Kevin Bailey

          7 years ago

          Yes it’s high, no pro player should be making that $$. That being said, that is where the market is so high from one standpoint, but because of the market, it’s reasonable.

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        • jesb0787

          7 years ago

          Wait, are you donald trump?

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        • Kevin Bailey

          7 years ago

          Just making a real point. Why has there always gotta be a smart butt comment that isn’t necessary.. Are you Kim Jong Un?

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          “No pro player should be making that $$” ? Should the owners just make all the money? When was the last time you went to a game to watch an owner sit in his suite?

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Smart butt lol

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          if that is where the market is, it’s not a steal

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        • CursedRangers

          7 years ago

          Equates to about a $100k for each out Davis records. So the contract is a steal for Davis and crazy high for the Rockies.

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Now you say its reasonable?? Haha. Too funny!

          First you say its a steal. Lol. Then you admit its “high”. Its not high. Its the highest AAV for reliever ever!

          Now you say he highest AAV ever is reasonable salary. Lol. You crack me up.

          Keep talking out of your rear end.

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          You could say that but Denver always has to over pay. Very hard to pitch there
          That’s why they try to go through the trade route whenever possible

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      • Cachhubguy

        7 years ago

        We’ll see.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        7 years ago

        Davis got what he’s worth. I wouldn’t call it a “steal” though.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        The Rockies got anything but a steal. Just the opposite.

        You see when you give a record breaking contract its not a steal.

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          I don’t know about that.. It seems to me that Davis would have probably gotten a comparable contract from another team.. To get a pitcher of Davis’ talent to pitch in Coors for half his games, without a massive overpay, is quite possibly a steal for the Rockies..

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          So a massive overpay as you call it is a steal??

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      • fannclub6

        7 years ago

        No way is Davis worth that kind of money. Rockies will regret this contract.

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        • 377194

          7 years ago

          Hell, most free agents don’t really deserve those big contracts. It just is what it is.

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    • Jack Taddy

      7 years ago

      True but I’ll always remember that game in September when Arcia hit that laser HR off of Davis to tie it, and then Shaw walked it off with a moonshot. Hey see you at Coors maybe, Wade!

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      • internet1tough1guy

        7 years ago

        Just think, that was his only blown save if the season when cubs we’re already clinched.

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        • Jack Taddy

          7 years ago

          Yes that’s true!

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    • justinept

      7 years ago

      The Cubs need a starter more than a reliever. Arrieta and Darvish are angling for $25 million. I’d rather have either of them at that price than Davis at $17.3

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      • ChiSoxCity

        7 years ago

        Nah, the Cubs need an elite closer to anchor their bullpen. They have enough depth in the rotation to win their division right now. Adding a Darvish or Cobb plus a Holland would make them the top team in the NL, imo.

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          Agreed, but they should sign Darvish or Cobb and trade Happ for that dominate reliever.. Happ for Chad Green from the Yankees makes sense..

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Yankees would never do that. For one they don’t need happ and they love green out of the bullpen. For two Happ would be blocked by everyone no matter where they put him.

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        • internet1tough1guy

          7 years ago

          Happ for Chad green? Never heard of her.. Happ is way more valuable.. Happ could get colome if the cubs threw in a couple prospects… Also cubs do not need to sign a big starter. Only way they do that is if they sign one to a 1 yr deal. It’s obvious that they’re preparing for next off season for Harper.. once they sign Harper, they’ll have schwarber and Happ that can be expendable!! They can then use them to trade for a starter and reliever.

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        • Cubguy13

          7 years ago

          Why does everyone think Happ is expendable? Happ will be their primary 2b after next season. Zobrist will be getting phased more and more to a bench guy. If Russell gets hurt, Baez will cover ss, so you want Zobrist alone to be your 2b? He is getting old and his contract is up in 2 years. Cubs need to keep Happ.

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        • southbeachbully

          7 years ago

          Makes sense for who? Not the Yankees it doesn’t.

          Green is a super dominant relief pitcher (maybe even a decent mid-rotation arm for some teams) and the Yanks have 5 more years of control. He was 6th in WAR among relievers behind Jansen, Kimbrel, Osuna, Knebel and Neshek.

          I value position players more than relief pitchers but Happ isn’t very good right now whereas Green is extremely dominant.

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        • Ry.the.Stunner

          7 years ago

          So if Happ is their primary 2B after next year, where do you put Baez? It doesn’t appear any of the core is getting traded this year and you can’t just bench Baez “just in case” Russell gets injured. Baez is an everyday player.

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        • Red Ivy

          7 years ago

          Schwarber is a better defensive player than Happ. Let that sink in…

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          Schwarber cannot even play his position (catcher) let alone left field

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        • saavedra

          7 years ago

          Schwarber cannot play catcher, that’s why he was moved to the less demanding position left field.

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          7 years ago

          Schwarber is better in left field than you give him credit for. He only mad 5 errors all year. He had 8 OF assists. All at home.

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        • tedmorgan

          7 years ago

          No, he’s not. Not by metrics, not by the “eye test.” KS may be somewhat better than his reputation in LF (a few memorable mishaps haven’t helped) and he’s improving, but he still cost -9 DRS last year. Happ managed +3 DRS at a far more demanding CF despite playing ~60% fewer innings there than KS did in LF.

          The only way to color this in favor of KS is to compare his UZR in LF to Happ’s limited sample there. And that’d be twisting reality.

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        • tedmorgan

          7 years ago

          Making 5 errors in 821 INN is actually below average for a LF (by -0.9 Error Runs, per Fangraphs), but you’re right that he’s better than generally perceived and has an underrated arm.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Schwarber is not better than Happ defensively. That’s just, wow.

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          except he’s not. Let that sink in.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      @brewcrew08 but you’re still a Brewers fan, who won’t see a division title this year, next year, the year after that, or the year after that, as long as the Cubs and Cardinals are in the same division as them.

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        Oh man, a prediction like that will get you roasted pretty badly if the brewers wind up building on their success and do win the division.

        Cubs dont have a farm anymore and Brewers have pieces to move to improve, cardinals dont.

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        • andyb

          7 years ago

          this is absolutely false, Cardinals have an outstanding farm system.

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Agreed. The Cards have a very strong farm. A lot of depth there.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          As a Cub fan I’m worried about both but Cardinals more.

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Many Cubs prospects graduated to the big league club. That is the point of having a farm. But you say the Brewers farm is better so they have an edge on the Cubs? I would rather have my farm produce the young core like the Cubs then not have yet like the Brewers.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          Pretty sure the Brewers have 7 too 100 prospects to the Cardinals 5. If the Cards farm is very strong the brewers must have a very, very strong one. To mention depth MLB.com has Brett Phillips as our #12 prospect. To say the Brewers won’t win the division in the next 4 years or whatever you said shows your arrogance as a baseball fan. You’re talking like the Brewers were a 60 win team last year. They won 86 AND finished ahead of the Cards. Not to mention the Cards have 1 2 bats that are worth anything in Ozuna/Pham and that’s it. Cubs have guys like Swarb, Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, Contreras all coming up on FA years. You’re crazy if you think they sign all of them. Not to mention Lester is getting old, Heywards deal is trash and a handcuff and their farm sucks.

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        • internet1tough1guy

          7 years ago

          Everyone on the cubs is locked up through 20-21.. so he’s right to say you guys won’t win for 4 years. And I guarantee Bryant, Rizzo, Contreras, Russell will all be locked up past that.. cubs also have Happ so they can let Baez go or trade him if needed. Schwarber will be traded once they sign Harper.. so yeah good luck winning the division in the next 10 years..

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          You’re right Arcia and Phillips haven’t started producing yet. My whole argument is the guy said the brewers won’t challenge for a division in the next 5 years. Our farm would come into play before then.

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Re-read the post andyb and I were responding to. It stated that the Brewers have pieces to move, but the Cards don’t. Nobody is disputing that the Brewers have a very strong farm, which they do, however, the false claim was that the Cards don’t have pieces to move, which they clearly and easily do. Reyes, Weaver, Flaherty, Kelly, O’Neil, Hudson, Bader, etc.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          So you’re telling me the cubs are going to be able to afford the 20+ mill that Lester/Hayward are already making, the 30+ mill a season it will take for Harper and all those guys you mentioned in their last year of arbitration too? You’re delusional. Unless you’re going to pay the 300+ million that payroll would be.

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        • southbeachbully

          7 years ago

          you can’t get caught up in top 100 lists. they are a guide to use but history has shown that there are so many future mlb stars that weren’t top 100 prospects.

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        • Ry.the.Stunner

          7 years ago

          Lester will be off the books by the time those guys reach their last year of arbitration. Also, the Cubs have a huge TV deal coming up around that same time. They’ll have plenty of money.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          He has a vesting option for 2021 for 25M. Rizzo is in the last year of his deal in 2021, Bryant is in his last year of arbitration 2021, Russell is in his final year 2021, same with Schwarber, Contreras/Baez in thier 3rd year 2021, Kendricks is a FA 2021 unless you throw money at him.

          So they are going to pay Rizzo 20M+, Harper 30M+, Bryant 20-25M, heyward 20M, Lester (one year) 25M and re-up Contreras, Baez, Russell, Kendricks and Swarb?

          Rizzo, Harper, Bryant and Heyward alone you’re looking at 90M.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          But the vast majority of All-Star caliber talent were on that list.

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        • saavedra

          7 years ago

          Bryant’s grievance is ongoing. He should be a FA after 2020.

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        • Red Ivy

          7 years ago

          The Cubs print money, have a loaded controllable roster and have Theo. Im pretty sure theres no better position to be in. Maybe the astros but I’ll take my cubbies.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Lester could be traded depending on his production, Schwarber or Russell could be gone way before then. Bryant Rizzo and possibly Harper if that even happens are the priority.

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          That’s exactly what I’m saying. These guys are acting like the cubs will keep their entire roster together. Using the logic the ‘cubs are printing money’ or ‘tv deal’ doesn’t change the fact that even big market teams don’t want that tax.

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        • CursedRangers

          7 years ago

          As much as it would be great for the Astros to keep their team together, the way baseball works it won’t happen. They have 2-3 more years and then they will be faced with some hard, and unfortunate, payroll decisions. Baseball is the one sport that makes it all but impossible to keep your core together.

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          What? The Cards most certainly do have a farm system! It’s rated at No. # 11 I believe . Plus they have plenty of money to spend with a new BILLION dollar tv deal starting .

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        • mcdusty31

          7 years ago

          Brett Phillips prospect status has faded tremendously over the last couple years, not exactly the best example to use

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          He didn’t say they wont challenge, he said they wont win it.

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      7 years ago

      I was hoping Davis would re-sign with the cubs. The cubs need a starter and now a closer maybe Holland on a 2 year with a.3rd year option.

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    • Mikel Grady

      7 years ago

      Davis 4.50 e.r.a. Postseason this year. Just signed biggest contract for reliever ever. Age 33-36 . Good luck Rockies . Cubs sign darvish or Cobb and Addison reed , trade for machado will he fine

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        cubs dont have the pieces for machado without including happ and possibly almora jr or schwarber.

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        • andyb

          7 years ago

          The rumored package of Russell, Montgomery and Almora is a pretty strong offer. As a cards fan though I hope the cubs make that deal because I think it’s bad for them long term.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          It’s horrible

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      • wrigleywannabe

        7 years ago

        the cubs do not need, nor should they wreck their core, to get machado

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        • brewcrew08

          7 years ago

          Their core they won’t be able to afford in 2-3 years anyways.

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        • Cubguy13

          7 years ago

          Why do you think the Cubs won’t be able to afford their core? You realize you are talking about the big market Cubs and not the small market Brewers

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        • Red Ivy

          7 years ago

          As sexy as machado sounds I believe Addison Russell is going to be the guy he’s suppose to be next year. Also the orioles are going to feel stupid as hell for missing a 360 slam dunk. I mean my god what he offered them was outrageous and they still didn’t take it.

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      • internet1tough1guy

        7 years ago

        Why would they trade for Machado? It’s like giving away pieces for nothing.. if they trade for anything it’ll be a starter and or closer.. they aren’t spending big money on a pitcher either. It’s obvious they’re playing safe and waiting for Harper while hoping for bounce back years from addy n schwarbs and heyward. While I think addy will breakout, schwarber will get back to his normal self, heyward will still be a bust!

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          Schwarber back to his normal self? Huh? He’s only played 1 full year in the bigs so far! What is his Norm?

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      • warboner

        7 years ago

        Davis was overused in the postseason, he was running on fumes by the NLCS.

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      • matthew102402

        7 years ago

        So you don’t want to bring up his Reg Season stats since 2014? Can’t just skip over something like that just to prove a point.

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        • Cubguy13

          7 years ago

          Let’s bring up the fact he will be pitching much more in Coors Field and his ground ball rate already has dropped significantly

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        • Mikel Grady

          7 years ago

          I can bring up his previous arm injury if you like . Shaky 25 pitch saves. Last stats were 2017 nlcs not 2014.

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    • michaelw

      7 years ago

      Why the Brewers won’t do anything anyway.

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    • clotty

      7 years ago

      Why is that package horrible? Two under 25 gold glove caliber players on the verge of stardom and a capable left handed starting pitcher for a guy they will lose to free agency if they don’t move? Right now, at this point in the off-season, it’s the correctly balanced and as competitively lucrative an offer as the Orioles could hope for without an exception to negotiate an extension.

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        It’s horrible for the Cubs. Russell and Montgomery fine, But not with Almora. They have a shortage of outfielders as it is.

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        • Mikel Grady

          7 years ago

          Bryce Harper can replace almora next year. Cubs don’t play almora anyway

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    • IACub

      7 years ago

      I politely disagree

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    • cubfanbob

      7 years ago

      If the Cubs wanted him, they would have signed him. They will be just fine.

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  4. dirtbagfreitas

    7 years ago

    Nice! Let’s end the year with some movement!

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  5. Cleviski

    7 years ago

    A little unexpected. Though the Rockies did need bullpen help. They got it

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  6. snotrocket

    7 years ago

    Nice. Somebody signed someone. Hopefully this is the start of a trend.

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    • Cubbie75

      7 years ago

      ikr?

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  7. Jkolti

    7 years ago

    That Rockies bullpen is starting to really look nasty. If their rotation performs this year, watch out.

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      Losing Neshek and Holland for Shaw and Davis is a small upgrade. Its a similar pen to last season.

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      • aceofrainbows

        7 years ago

        Shaw for a full year > Neshek for a month and a half.

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  8. nats3256

    7 years ago

    wow! Rox trying to compete. I wonder if this is the signing that causes the avalanche of other signings.

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    • baseballpun

      7 years ago

      I see what you did there.

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  9. tim815

    7 years ago

    3 and 52.

    Sacri bleu.

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  10. walls17

    7 years ago

    Rocktober is looking strong babay!!!!

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  11. youcannnnnputitontheboard

    7 years ago

    wow!!! highest aav for a reliever, an assignment bonus and full no trade if traded once. that’s a haul for him.

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    • CursedRangers

      7 years ago

      No doubt! This is turning into the year of the reliever. Great player, but for another 20% of the AAV they could have gotten a top of the rotation starter. Crazy money for a closer.

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      • stymeedone

        7 years ago

        Really? What Starter is looking to slign in Colorado? Colorado is a team pitchers try to avoid. Extra $ are needed to coax them to sign. The school system is not as good as it once was as an enticement.

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        • CursedRangers

          7 years ago

          The Rockies are paying Davis roughly $100k for every out that he records. Every single top free agent pitcher is still unsigned. You don’t think that just one of them would be interested in looking at the Rockies for $22M a year? You think a $100k an out is smart money? Ok…

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      • disgruntledreader 2

        7 years ago

        The two top starters on the market are reportedy looking for about 45% more than that AAV for at least two more years. And that’s before you determine whether they’re interested in pitching in Colorado.

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        • CursedRangers

          7 years ago

          Sure they are looking for that, but doubt they will both get that. Maybe one, but this market seems off for both to land it. Hosmer is looking for a boatload. Same with JDM. Doubt either will get it. $100k an out is insane

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        • disgruntledreader 2

          7 years ago

          You asserted that for 20% more AAV they could get a top of the rotation starter. There’s simply no evidence to support that idea.

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  12. snotrocket

    7 years ago

    3/52. Highest aav ever for a reliever.

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    • cheese

      7 years ago

      Full no trade clause. Wowzers

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      • CubsRule08

        7 years ago

        He gets a full NTC only if he gets traded from the Rockies.

        Thanks for all you did for the Cubs in 2017 Wade, but this screams “bad deal” IMO

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        • arc89

          7 years ago

          They had to over pay to get him to pitch in Colorado. Is it a over pay? Yes but if he fails to pitch in Colorado its going to be a big bust for them.

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  13. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    As long as his stuff doesn’t flatten out at coors it’s a good signing. Their rotation still isn’t good enough imo

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    • Alex Graboyes

      7 years ago

      they should sign cobb and trade for fulmer. They have a solid system. Trade ryan mcmahon. There infield is great so where he gonna play

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      • kcusgnikcufsregdod

        7 years ago

        They need a 1b

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          You won’t think that way after watching McMahon for a month. they do not need a 1B.

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        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          7 years ago

          Hence why I said they need a 1b? The dude is suggesting trading McMahon. Read.

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      • jimmyz

        7 years ago

        Well Desmond is probably moving back to the outfield to replace Cargo so first base is currently open, plus Arenado and LeMahieu are free agents in the next two seasons so there’s three infield spots for Ryan McMahon and Brendan Rogers to play.

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  14. julyn82001

    7 years ago

    Now bring CarGo back…

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  15. lee smith

    7 years ago

    Their starting pitching is still a big weakness

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  16. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    Almost 18 million a year though, yikes !! You think the Rockies could have gotten a better deal considering how nobody else seemed to be bidding for him. I wonder what Rivera would have gotten in today’s market if he was still playing? Lol

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    • baseballpun

      7 years ago

      He probably could’ve gotten

      [Dr. Evil pose]

      ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

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    • Jack Taddy

      7 years ago

      How would you know that no one was bidding on him? Are you a superhero??

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      • Yankeepatriot

        7 years ago

        If offers were made I’m sure they would have been outed

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    • agentx

      7 years ago

      Probably about the same, but Rivera wouldn’t have to go play a mile above sea level to get it. Rockies probably had to pay $4-$5MM more over the life of the contract to get Davis to sign.

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    • Jizz Chasholm

      7 years ago

      They probably gave him more annually so they didn’t have to give 4 or 5 years. That’s what every team should do imo when it comes to free agency

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      • rivera42

        7 years ago

        Bingo. People keep talking about the AAV, which is high, but they also got him for only 3 years(with a vesting 4th). Also, his NTC kicks in AFTER he is dealt, so the Rockies can deal him to any team without his permission, only the acquiring team can’t deal him afterwards without his permission. I personally think this is a very solid deal for a reliever as good as Davis.

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    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      You don’t think another team was bidding on Davis? That’s absurd! Sure they were! Multiple teams were.

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  17. outinleftfield

    7 years ago

    Wow! The Rockies have committed $106 million to 3 relievers this offseason. They must have tremendous trust in their young starters to get the job done over the next 3 years.

    Who’s next?

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    • jimmyz

      7 years ago

      Unfortunately that’s 106 million not going to an Arenado extension.

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      • hiflew

        7 years ago

        An Arenado extension without fixing the bullpen issues just means seeing a lot of cool defensive plays on a 65 win team.

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    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      I believe they don’t have as much trust in their starters

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      • brucewayne

        7 years ago

        That’s why they are building a stronger bullpen!

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        • CompanyAssassin

          7 years ago

          I think that was his point, its not particularly normal to put that much money into relievers when you trust your starters.

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  18. trace

    7 years ago

    Kimbrel must be licking his chops right now.

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    • rivera42

      7 years ago

      20M AAV? Certainly not out of question, especially if he repeats his outstanding 2017.

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      • pmhockey35

        7 years ago

        And the fact that he’ll be younger than davis when hitting FA

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  19. kcusgnikcufsregdod

    7 years ago

    Ay some excitement. Finally!

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  20. chino31

    7 years ago

    Bosox will let him walk. No way they can afford Kimbrel with Betts and others start getting expensive.

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  21. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    When you got two powerhouse closers in the same division. Face palm activated.

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    • Ski to Coors

      7 years ago

      Jensen, Hand, Melancon, and Wade. If you’re talking about the NL West, only the Dbacks don’t have a ‘powerhouse closer’.

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      • Solaris601

        7 years ago

        Is AZ waiting to see if they can unload Greinke’s contract before signing a closer? My guess is if they can’t find a taker, they’ll sign another bounce back candidate like Huston Street.

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      • hiflew

        7 years ago

        And Rodney wasn’t THAT bad last year.

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      • CompanyAssassin

        7 years ago

        Who knows, maybe Hirano/Bradley will be a bit spooky.

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  22. oebrr00

    7 years ago

    There is no way Davis delivers value on that contract but it does help explain why teams like the Brewers have been slow to pull the trigger on bullpen help.

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    • ray_derek

      7 years ago

      The Brewers are cheap, which would also explain it.

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      • daveineg

        7 years ago

        Brewers have one of the premier closers in the game in Knebel who’s better than Davis and if they keep Hader in the pen, one of the top LH relievers also. Why overpay? They are saving their funds for that one big starter signing..

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          I despise the Brewers, but you’re correct on Knebel. They won’t sign anyone was my point, because they’re cheap, not that they needed a closer.

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          i do love the Chacin signing for them though.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          I wouldn’t call a guy with one decent year a premier anything.

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          I would, he’s a top 5 closer IMO.

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        • hiflew

          7 years ago

          Kenley Jansen, Aroldis Chapman, Wade Davis, Greg Holland, Craig Kimbrel, Ken Giles, Kelvin Herrera (bad year, but good track record). Knebel had a great year, but I wouldn’t put him ahead of any of those 5. Nor would I put him ahead of fellow breakout relievers Alex Colome and Raisel Iglesias. I have no problem calling him a top 10 reliever right now, with the UPSIDE of becoming a top 5 reliever if he can maintain over the next year or two.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          I’ll reserve that for after this season.

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        • internet1tough1guy

          7 years ago

          Andrew Miller? If you’re talking relievers and not closers is clearly a top 5.

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        • internet1tough1guy

          7 years ago

          Also osuna, Brach, Britton(although injured), hand.. are all better than knebel. Knebel is not a top 10. Maybe not top 15

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        • retire21

          7 years ago

          Rivero?

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        • hiflew

          7 years ago

          Thank you. I can’t believe I forgot Britton. I guess Isince he got hurt, he just slipped my mind.

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  23. Rightout

    7 years ago

    show me the money….hope it goes well for the rockies. and davis….if i where a closer i would never want to pitch in mile high country..,,,,plus i worry davis maybe nearing the end of His run as an elite closer…what will kimbrel get next year 25 million per year ..crazy…Still need starting pitching in colorado otherwise your just an avg team…..finishing third and missing the playoffs…..Might as well sign Jake and then hope for the best…

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  24. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    Over 100 million spent on the pen this off season

    The Rockies are trying to buy a championship !!!!

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      After years of never spending. I see what you did there but it doesn’t change anything.

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  25. southbeachbully

    7 years ago

    I wonder what the Yankees could get for 1 year of David Robertson or two years of Betances? Robertson is very reasonable at 1/$13 mil and Betances is approaching his last 2 years of arbitration and “only” made $3 mil last year.

    Yanks would still have Chapman to close, one of Robertson/Bets to set up, Warren, Green and Kahnle to handle 5-7 innings and could probably use a hard throwing starter like Cessa and convert him to a bullpen arm too.

    I would think given the market the Yanks could probably net a package centered around a top 75-125 prospect.

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    • Joe Kerr

      7 years ago

      But they are trying to win, and the more better players you have, the better your odds. No need to subtract from strength. What if they did make that trade then 2 of those guys get hurt, then the Yanks are up a creek. They have no reason to trade away a good reliever.

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  26. geejohnny

    7 years ago

    Bad signing. Relievers way too erratic. They will regret the extra years when he’s getting smacked around at Coors.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      Very few relievers in baseball are good year in and year out. Building most of your pen is better imo. At least someone is using the revenue sharing money lol

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      • rocky7

        7 years ago

        Agree Patriot….which is why Mariano was so special.
        You can argue modern metrics all day long, but at the end of the day consistency game to game, year to year is what makes a Hall of Fame Reliever!

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  27. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    7 years ago

    Damn it. The cubs don’t have a closer and Britton is no longer an option.

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    • ray_derek

      7 years ago

      If you’re a Cubs fan, you should feel relived they didn’t spend that kind of money on him.

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      • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

        7 years ago

        I wanted them to re-sign him. He was perfect til the 2nd to last week of the season. When somehow the brewers got to him.

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      • internet1tough1guy

        7 years ago

        I agree being a big cubs fan, it’s bitter sweet but I wouldn’t want him longer than another year.. much rather save that money for next off season for Andrew miller or kimbrel and Harper. Signing Harper means schwarber and to a lesser extent Happ is out of a position which means we can trade them for that 4th starter we need and not need to pay millions for it!! Then could also trade Happ for a closer.. or do schwarber and Happ for archer and colome.

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      • bearcat6

        7 years ago

        Relieved!!!

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  28. xabial

    7 years ago

    Finally.

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  29. daveineg

    7 years ago

    Davis is nowhere near the guy he was in KC. This is a massive overpay. I hate the Cubs but they dodged a bullet. Rockies won’t be able to move that contract down the road.

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  30. simschifan

    7 years ago

    Morrow, that’s the closer. Not saying I like it but that’s the closer

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      7 years ago

      Morrow at best is the 7th inning guy. The cubs might do bullpen by committy to start the year. Morrow is not the closer.

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      • ray_derek

        7 years ago

        he’s likely the 1st candidate…at least at this point.

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        Wasn’t (gasp) Justin Wilson a closer for Detroit?

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          So now with Davis officially gone. Go get Darvish a backup catcher and maybe another outfielder Rajai Davis or Jarrod Dyson and call it a day.

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          Not sure he was ever labeled as the closer, he was a very solid setup guy there and struggled mightily in Chicago. they need him to rebound, I’m sure he’s also a candidate to close along with Edwards. but Carl’s Jr. is too unpredictable yet to take on that responsibility.

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        • ray_derek

          7 years ago

          i would love Dyson, very underrated. Not sure why SF hasn’t signed him to patrol CF for them yet.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          Dyson would be perfect depending on what he’s asking. Leadoff speed center it’s a no brainer.

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        • stymeedone

          7 years ago

          Yes, he was Detroit’s Closer. KRod lost the job badly. It was all Justin’s. and he dominated in that role.

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          7 years ago

          They have like 7 outfielders cubs don’t need another outfielder or a catcher. They have Victor Caratini. He’s very capable to back up contreas. They need to avoid Darvish at all costs.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        7th inning guy at best? Lol

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  31. Mill City Mavs

    7 years ago

    The relief market has gotten out of control. How you can pay a closer over 15 million dollars a season is baffling to me.. this is nuts. That said.. heck of a bullpen in Denver now. Hopefully shortens some games for their young staff.

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    • CursedRangers

      7 years ago

      The relief market is extremely over-inflated right now. Davis pitched less than 60 innings last year. He is going to get paid roughly $100k for every out that he records. That is pure insanity.

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      • geejohnny

        7 years ago

        Columes asking price just went up. A controllable closer who has lead baseball in total saves the last 2 years.

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    • davidcoonce74

      7 years ago

      I think that’s the idea. No free-agent starter will sign with the Rockies so they should probably pursue a bullpen-game strategy, and they have the right manager in Black to pull it off.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Agreed in that strategy

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    • raef715

      7 years ago

      it was 6 years ago that Papelbon got 50 for 4 from the Phils. it’s the contracts for the set-up guys that have really jumped.

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    • kcusgnikcufsregdod

      7 years ago

      Agreed. Now teams have to pay premium for relievers to relieve starters, who they are paying 20 million/ year, because they cant pitch more than 5 innings?

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  32. kcusgnikcufsregdod

    7 years ago

    Another post that gets overtaken by Yankee fans talking about their own players. And they wonder why everyone hates them

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    • rocky7

      7 years ago

      A little bit of an overreaction don’t you think dude…..have you read the posts here….certainly don’t think this post was taken over by us Yankee fans….just reflecting on today’s differences in how relievers are paid.

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      • kcusgnikcufsregdod

        7 years ago

        Yes i did read the posts hence why i made my post. Yankee fans talking about how they can trade one of their own relievers and bring up certain guys blah blah blah

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          It was one single post, dude. Seriously, just relax.

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    • melfman1

      7 years ago

      Seriously… delusional much? One or two random Yankee comments and we “hated” fans are overtaking the post. There were way more posts about the Rockies, Brewers, Cubs, etc.
      I guess for you, ignorance really is bliss.

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      • Yankeepatriot

        7 years ago

        Just let the angry bitter fan be while the rest of us talk Baseball

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        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          7 years ago

          aww i upset yankee fans.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          7 years ago

          The only one who sounded upset was you lmaoo

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        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          7 years ago

          lmaaooooooo yup. as evidenced by your little fellow yankee fans getting butthurt because i called them out. lmaoooooo.

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        • melfman1

          7 years ago

          Poor KC fan… get ready for a decade of mediocrity.

          Reply
        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          7 years ago

          Lmao kc fan? Sure, im a KC fan.

          Reply
        • Tyler 20

          7 years ago

          i see the autism bug paid you a visit.

          Reply
        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          7 years ago

          Took it too far. Autism is not something to joke about.

          Reply
  33. Pablo

    7 years ago

    Shocked by this. They clearly paid a premium. I see a lot of home runs in his future.

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  34. Padres2019ha

    7 years ago

    No wonder the Pads haven’t traded Hand. His value is through the roof based on these contracts.

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    • bleacherbum

      7 years ago

      Yeah 17 million a year for a closer is steep. That’s why Hand’s asking price is so high because of how cheap he is compared to what relievers are signing for now. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    • beersy

      7 years ago

      These prices for relievers is actually becoming a hindrance to Preller and Co.. Hand has been so good the last couple of years and he is going to be so cheap the next couple of years, the asking price is deservedly so high, I am not sure the Padres will be able to make a “fair trade”. With these prices, is Hand worth a #1 prospect from a good system/top 25 in all of baseball kind of player? You would have to think he is, now is any team going to take the plunge?

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  35. simschifan

    7 years ago

    I really like Wade. Hopefully he continues to be one of the most dominant closers in the game.

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  36. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    I wonder what rivero, betances and hand would get in the trade market ? They are all cheap, elite and at least two of them have at least 2 years of control (not sure about Dellin)

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  37. JKB 2

    7 years ago

    Article is wrong. Cubs avoided the luxury tax this year so they are not a luxury tax payor in 2017 season

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  38. mlb1225

    7 years ago

    Will they sign Kelvin Herrera next year when he’s a free agent, so they can continue the trend of signing former Royal late inning pitchers/closers?

    Reply
    • rivera42

      7 years ago

      They traded for Davis. Gave up Soler for him. It was a steal for the Cubs.

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      • mlb1225

        7 years ago

        Still was a former Royal closer/set-up.

        Reply
        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Yes, but it was a trade…the Royals had control over where they sent him.

          Reply
      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        Didn’t he mean the Rockies not the Cubs

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      • Ry.the.Stunner

        7 years ago

        I think he’s referring to the Rockies, not the Cubs. The Rockies have signed Holland and Davis now in recent years. The Cubs don’t really have a precedent for signing former Royals closers other than Davis.

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        • Joe Kerr

          7 years ago

          Maybe he sees into the future and the Cubs are going to sign Dan Quisenberry or Jeff Montgomery.

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  39. reflect

    7 years ago

    I guess “sign all the relievers” was the Rockies’ New Years resolution.

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  40. sufferforsnakes

    7 years ago

    If this is the future, then no way my Tribe can afford to re-sign Miller and/or Allen.

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  41. oaksbossko

    7 years ago

    I love what the Rockies been doing the last couple years. They sign Dunn last year and this year Davis and Shaw and resign McGee. And they signed a decent catcher in Iannetta. Great offseason for them. They’re investing a huge amount of money into their bullpen but they very much have to do this to win.

    Reply
    • CursedRangers

      7 years ago

      It has been nice to see them getting more aggressive in the offseason. But signing Desmond to that crazy contract also took place. They are making strides, but some have been head scratchers.

      Reply
      • oaksbossko

        7 years ago

        I agree with that price was a little high for 5 years. $22m in ‘18 $15m in ‘19 &’20 but then $8m in the final year plus a $15 option year $2 buyout. Not to mention going into his mid 30s age. But he was coming off a good offensive year for the Rangers and he still has the potential to be a good complementary and versatile player with power/speed, If healthy. But yes, the length and price was a little steep.

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  42. cubbies95

    7 years ago

    Hard to see the Cubs coming close to that number. 17 mil for a closer is a crazy high number but Davis is one of the better ones in the biz so more power to him

    Reply
  43. Michael Birks

    7 years ago

    I am a Red Sox fan and I’m not looking forward to seeing what Kimbrel wants next year AAV 20 million? 22?

    Reply
  44. gary55wv

    7 years ago

    I can’t see why such a small salary difference sways a decision to go from a possible dynasty to a team that is mediocre.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Let’s not get ahead of ourselves on the D word. We don’t know what the Cubs offered, maybe only 2 years. Maybe the third year is what got him.

      Reply
    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      Dynasty? Ok!

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    • ChiSoxCity

      7 years ago

      Uh, the Rockies are not mediocre. They have beaten the Cubs senseless the last two years, and were a better than the Cubs last year. If they find a TOR pitcher worth a damn, they’ll probably get to the WS with the current roster.

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  45. imindless

    7 years ago

    Huge pick up for the rockies at an affordable cost. He’s better than holland and doesnt have quiet this same injury history. Quality pick up!

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  46. Thronson5

    7 years ago

    Rockies are making moves this offseason, good for them. Curious to see how they do this season.

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  47. minoso9

    7 years ago

    The Rockies needed help in their bullpen, so I like this move. And now they can forget about Holland- which is a good thing. If the young starters continue to develop, the Rox will make a lot of noise in the N.L. By the way, Coors Field is a good hitters park but so are many other ballparks I can think of.

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  48. charles stevens

    7 years ago

    That’s a truck load of money to have tied up in a bullpen. Better hope they live up to it.

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  49. acerulli1

    7 years ago

    Random thoughts on this offseason and the reaction from fans…

    1 – It seems MLB franchises have finally learned that bullpens win championships, that the most pivotal playoff games are usually won and lost by the bullpens, and as infuriating as relievers can be with the year-to-year inconsistency, they are the most sensible risk when weighing the cost vs. the benefit.

    2 – It seems MLB franchises are also realizing that a dependable bullpen has the added value potential in minimizing the overuse of starters and thus somewhat mitigating the risk of far more expensive assets suffering catastrophic injuries.

    3 – It seems MLB franchises are beginning to embrace the notion that higher AAVs over shorter terms are much wiser gambles than signing 32 yr old players showing all the signs of imminent decline to 6 and 7 year guarantees. Fans keep crying “overpay” on nearly every signing this offseason, but IMO there is no such thing as an overpay on a 3-year guarantee or less. The risk of the player returning less value may still be there, but the contract won’t hamper a franchise over any length of time.

    4 – Some teams may just be concerned about the exorbitant length of term contracts that next year is expected to see, and may just be trying to mitigate that with only shorter term guarantees this year. Not sure, but it certainly feels as though the anticipation and presumptions of next offseason are impacting the approach to this offseason.

    Oh…and there really is not a FA this offseason that was ever worth more than a 4-year guarantee, IMHO (unless you count Ohtani, but he, of course, was not a true FA).

    In summary, I like this signing for the Rockies, though I admit it comes with a bit of risk, All relievers come with similar risk; you still have to pay for quality, and you usually have to pay a premium for quality pitchers in Denver. Sad but true.

    At least they didn’t give him 4 years, or a NTC. Rockies did well to minimize their risk on this one, while still making the gamble.

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  50. dvmwitt

    7 years ago

    Well the price for Brad Hand may have gone up a bit with this signing. That’s a lot of dough to shell out for a closer.

    Reply
  51. truroyal15

    7 years ago

    As a Royals fan, I love Wade Davis but forking out that kind of money for him is a bad move for the Rockies. But I guess that is why they are the Rockies lol

    Reply
  52. Ski to Coors

    7 years ago

    When you have 6 talented pre-arb starters, with 3 talented prospects in the upper minors, you can spend 100M on the bullpen. Its a nice luxury to have for a small market team that struggles to attract pitching talent.

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  53. Phillies2017

    7 years ago

    What is it with Jeff Bridich and overpaying relievers.
    The Rox have to have the most expensive bullpen in the game.

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  54. jorleeduf

    7 years ago

    Wow

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  55. Kane U.

    7 years ago

    Absolutely dumb on the Rockies part. Only way you can get a pitcher to Denver is to overpay. That’s exactly why Davis chose to go to Denver.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      Davis didn’t have many options either

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        I’m sure there were a few teams in on him.

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  56. tcdude

    7 years ago

    Don’t pay for saves…. unless it’s Mariano Rivera. waste of money

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  57. dbec72

    7 years ago

    Davis just showed us what he is all about. Now that he has won he just wants money. Rockies at best get knocked out after winning the wildcard.

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    • dbec72

      7 years ago

      Could be he did not want to pitch for Maddon because he may pitch him so much his arm would be dragging or get injured?

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        He was underused during the season. He was used as much as any reliever in the playoffs. I don’t understand how he was overused, maybe used more than usual.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        No it could not be that he was over used. It could be the 52.5 million he got though!

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Incredible that fans still don’t understand that these guys can’t really make any money past the age of 40 in this profession. This is the dumbest take of all time. Davis did what he should have done, taken the money and ran. All players should be about money over winning, winning a title is damn near impossible, it rightfully should be second fiddle. This is a billion dollar industry because of the players whether you like it or not, and the players are why its a billion dollar industry. To criticize any player for not taking the money is idiocy.

      Reply
  58. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    My boy Andrew Miller has his eyes like
    $_$ right now

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    • Mikel Grady

      7 years ago

      Hope next year at wrigley they announce , its Miller time. He will definitely bring the big contract

      Reply
      • Yankeepatriot

        7 years ago

        I’m a huge fan of miller and was sad to see him leave ny. However the trade made sense and we got red thunder and Sheffield in return so it was worth it. If your cubbies snag him you will instantly love his talent and character !

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        • Mikel Grady

          7 years ago

          It was great trade for Yankees . Sheffield will be fun to watch

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  59. jimmertee

    7 years ago

    Way overpay. Time will bare out it is too high and long a contract for a closer. Stupid. He has maybe 2 good years left in him as an elite closer. #Scoutseyes

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      Fortunately for the Rockies it’s a 3 year deal and no more than that

      Reply
    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      So how much do scouts get paid these days? Just wondering!

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      • jimmertee

        7 years ago

        If you are a cross checker, or VP or director, the pay is great. If you are a local scout or part time scout the pay is dirt. That is the primary reason when I was offered a job with an MLB club I declined and went into the business world. It would have been below the poverty level.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          7 years ago

          Which club?

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        • jimmertee

          7 years ago

          Braves.

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        • 24TheKid

          7 years ago

          Or were they going to call you a local scout but have you scout 10 year olds in the D.R?

          Reply
        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          What job? Peanut vendor ? You didn’t really say!

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  60. AUTiger7222

    7 years ago

    After this deal it’s scary to think what Craig Kimbrel will get on the open market next winter.

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  61. Ski to Coors

    7 years ago

    People seem to be overreacting to the signing. Its only 1M AAV more than Melancon got, and Davis’ contract only has 3 years guaranteed, which makes it arguably a better contract for the team. Very comparable players, they both mix a 4 seam, cutter, and knuckle curve. Melacon had a little better track record of success, but the Rockies always overpay 1-3M AAV for pitchers.

    As a Rockies fan, I’m less concerned with Wade being a bust, since we have a deep pen, and more with the ability to still resign Blackmon and Arenado. Starting to think we’ll re-sign Blackmon and give up on retaining Arenado after his final arbitration year. They should trade for Yelich now, next year get a comp pick for Blackmon and give Arenado 8/310.

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  62. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    They Rockies haven’t signed a big name pitcher since mike Hampton 17 years ago and that turned out to be a brutal contract. Hopefully this one works out much better for them

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  63. Bryzzo2016

    7 years ago

    It’s an overpay, but Colorado identified their guy and went for it. Can’t fault that, I don’t like that contract for the Cubs, so I’m cool with it. They’ve done a great job of avoiding the luxury tax and they have other immediate needs as well as long term chess moves (Harper or Machado) to consider. I’m cool with a backend of CJ, Morrow and perhaps Reed and/or Duensing. Colorado knows their rotation can’t compete in the West so why not build a powerful pen. I like the signing for them.

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    • ChiSoxCity

      7 years ago

      Be “cool” with it all you want. The Cubs still don’t get to the NLCS without a closer.

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        Who says they don’t have a closer? Edwards strop Wilson morrow are all capable.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Oh good, you can name relief pitchers on the Cubs roster. What makes you think any of them are elite enough to close for a contending team?

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        • Bryzzo2016

          7 years ago

          No, it only means Davis won’t be the closer. That’s it. Sims is right, they have legit options already on the roster. BTW, how effective was Giles for HOU at backend on their way to the ship? Don’t overreact and if you’re trying to troll… try harder Sux fan. At least try to be somewhat clever…entertain us. 3 straight trips to the NLCS, 3 different closers. Theo/Jed don’t panic, that’s how they’ve built a monster that can sustain success. They play chess while most are playing checkers. Half their core hasn’t even peaked yet, the window is wide open. They don’t need to be desperate and hand out bad contracts to aging pitchers and risk hitting the luxury tax.

          BTW, what do you know about contending teams, Sux fan?

          I’d be surprised if Morrow, CJ or JW is the closer heading into the 2018 playoffs.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          What do Cubs fans know about contending? Apparently nothing. Throwing names of relievers into a hat and rolling with closer-by-committee does not work for teams trying to contend. Opposing hitters love them so Cubbie relievers though. Looks like the bp will be their Achilles Heel again.

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        • jleve618

          7 years ago

          Edwards has proven time and time again that he cannot get the job done on the big stage.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          7 years ago

          “What do cub fans know about contending ?”

          Is a White Sox fan really asking this question ? The Sox have made the post season only 3 times in the last 17+ years ????????

          Reply
        • Yankeepatriot

          7 years ago

          Wait scratch that the White Sox have made the post season only 9 times IN FRANCHISE HISTORY !!!!!!! And you want to joke on another fan base about contention

          Reply
        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Yankee degenerate fans preaching about contending? Heres some news for you, chump. Everybody hates the Yankees. Not because they win, but how they win. You assclowns buy players, cheat with PEDs and stealing signs, and tamper with other teams’ rosters. I have real respect for the Cardinals and Reds, who won by doing things the right way. Enjoy your gifted Giancarlo Stanton from that schmuck Jeetuh. I wouldn’t be mad if he slips a disc three games into the season, and hope Judge sets a new strikeout rate. Prepare to get owned, because a reckoning is coming for you in 2020.

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Boy Yankee Patriot really set you straight Chisox

          Reply
        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Well I would gave to say Yankee fans sure would have at least a lot of experience in contending

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        • ChiSoxCity

          7 years ago

          Yankeepunk set me straight on what, exactly? That the White Sox haven’t made the playoffs much? What profound observation. The Cubs have been worse, and for a longer period of time. That’s the story of sports in Chicago. New York is no better, except for the Yankees in a rigged system in baseball. A salary cap puts an end to that.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Why? They do not have a closer because none of them, but Wilson, was in that role last year? Davis used to be a setup guy as well.

        Morrow will be fine closing with his stuff. Wilson was closing very well for Detroit last year.

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  64. the baseball expert

    7 years ago

    The Rockies need more starting pitching if hey are even gonna contend but this is a great piece for their bullpen

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    • matthew102402

      7 years ago

      They made the wild card last year with the pitchers they have now (excluding Tyler Chatwood of course) and they were young. So now they can’t contend? Also, if we’re being honest, pitching staffs rely on the bullpen. You don’t need a great rotation. The bullpen is where it matters now. The Rockies realize it, and look at what they’re doing.

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      • Bryzzo2016

        7 years ago

        The Dodgers are a beast, but I agree. It’s perfectly within reason to think that the Rockies can be legit wild card contenders.

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      • Marcos A. Cruz

        7 years ago

        I do think this is a very good sign for them……

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      You say that and you call yourself the baseball expert?

      Reply
  65. Yoda

    7 years ago

    I hope he has a great time in Denver!!!!!!!

    Reply
  66. cardfan2011

    7 years ago

    FINALLY a signing!

    Reply
  67. Marcos A. Cruz

    7 years ago

    I do agree with Matthew nowadays you only need your starting to give a good solid 5 o 6 innings and with a good bullpen your team will be fine.

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