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Padres Extend Brad Hand

By Kyle Downing | January 15, 2018 at 12:32pm CDT

MONDAY: Heyman has the full breakdown on Twitter. Hand will receive a $1.75MM signing bonus along with salaries of $3.5MM, $6.5MM, and $7MM in the three guaranteed years of the contract.

SUNDAY: The Padres have officially announced the deal.

SATURDAY, 7:15pm: Hand passed his physical, making the deal official, per Heyman. The club option is worth $10MM and comes with a $1MM buyout, Heyman adds (Twitter link).

9:54am: The Padres have agreed to terms on an extension with left-handed reliever Brad Hand, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. It’s a three-year deal that also comes with a club option. Hand, who is represented by Matt Colleran, will be guaranteed $19.75MM, Jon Heyman of Fan Rag tweets. The deal is still pending a physical.

At the end of the day yesterday, we noted that Hand’s arbitration case was still unresolved, and obviously we now understand why arbitration filing figures had not been reported. Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports notes in his own tweet that both sides had filed at $3.6MM, indicating that extension talks had almost certainly progressed to a point where both sides were quite confident that a deal would get done.

Sep 18, 2017; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Padres relief pitcher Brad Hand (52) gestures during the ninth inning against the Arizona Diamondbacks at Petco Park. Mandatory Credit: Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports

The pact, of course, means that the Padres will not need to worry about the arbitration process with their elite reliever again, as the deal is set to cover his final two arb years while giving the club at least one additional year of team control. The team option will allow the Padres up to four years of team control over the southpaw. As Rosenthal adds, that means he’ll be able to enter free agency prior to his age-32 season — though clearly this deal entailed a significant sacrifice of open-market earning upside in exchange for a life-changing guarantee.

Hand has long been considered a valuable candidate, and his new contract seemingly makes it less likely that he’ll be traded this offseason (though his trade value may have actually increased due to the added team control). A while back, MLBTR profiled his potential trade value, noting that he could warrant a return similar to that which the Yankees received from the Indians for Andrew Miller. Instead, the Padres have found a way to keep him in the fold a bit longer… perhaps even into their next window of contention.

The extension is another indication that a rebuilding Padres club could perhaps be gearing up for a return to contention. Earlier this winter, reports surfaced that the club had already made a seven-year contract offer to Eric Hosmer in the nine-figure range. 

Contention window implications aside, keeping Hand in the fold for an extra season or two will help detract from the workload of a fairly young Padres rotation. Last season, their starters averaged 5 1/3 innings per start during the 2017 season, while Hand ranked 6th in the majors with 79 1/3 innings out of the bullpen. Many things could change over the course of the next two seasons, but retaining Hand amidst a bullpen full of question marks will have at least a small benefit to the pitching staff.

The Marlins selected Hand in the second round of the 2008 draft. He came up through their system as a starter, but never gained much traction. Through the end of the 2015 season, he owned a career 4.71 ERA across 288 2/3 innings split between Miami’s rotation and bullpen. His 5.9 K/9 and 3.7 BB/9 were also indicative of a below-average pitcher.

After the Padres claimed him off waivers in early April of the following season, they employed him as a reliever full-time and watched him rise to elite status. Over the course of his career in San Diego, Hand has tossed 168 2/3 sterling innings to the tune of a 2.56 ERA with 11.49 K/9 against just 2.99 BB/9. His 6.14 WPA during that time ranks fourth among qualifying relievers in baseball. After the Padres traded Brandon Maurer to the Royals prior to the 2017 trade deadline, the team began to deploy Hand as its closer; he rewarded them by collecting 19 saves across the remaining 2+ months of the season (in addition to the two he’d earned already that year). If he can continue to perform at a similar level, the Padres stand to earn fantastic value from the added year(s) they’ll gain from Hand as a result of this extension.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. TheMichigan

    7 years ago

    From waiver claim to making 6mill a year ain’t bad. Thought they would try to trade him though

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    • padam

      7 years ago

      Still can. Even more so now that they have him under a nice deal. But for that pricetag and knowing you have a closer for 4 years, I’d keep him and consider that position filled with a focus on other areas, unless someone makes a crazy offer.

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      At this price, he somehow got even more trade value. Nice work by Preller.

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      • thesheriffisnear

        7 years ago

        Agreed. At least one more year of control at a fair price. Could bring in a nice haul at the trade deadline or whenever they’d decide to shop him.

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    • shoheiohtahnyy

      7 years ago

      If anything his trade value just went up with that deal and control

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      • One Fan

        7 years ago

        His trade value will depend on how he pitches. If he regresses his value goes down not up. Thats a lot of money if he shows he cannot dulplicate last season

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Not particularly. Unless he reverts to pre-2016 form or gets injured he’d have gotten a lot more in free agency.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Also, it’s been two years now and Hand is pretty clearly a different pitcher than the one the Marlins DFA’d. Can we stop acting like Hand regressing is likely to happen?

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  2. Slipknot37

    7 years ago

    Well, guess that probably takes him off the trade market. Like the extension though

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    • TheIncident

      7 years ago

      Maybe for this offseason, but they traded Solarte a year after his extension. Actually I think it makes him even a more attractive trade chip. He’ll make maybe 2 million more than his estimated arb this year and then will be well under market price the next 2/3 years.

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      • mjbissonn

        7 years ago

        ^^^Absolutely

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      • Slipknot37

        7 years ago

        Why I said probably. I definitely wouldn’t be surprised to see him traded if the right offer comes. Especially now that he has two more years of team control if the fourth year option is indeed exercised.

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        • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

          7 years ago

          And with a pretty reasonable contract, I’d guess his price would go up if they do decide to trade him.

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        • davbee

          7 years ago

          Probably takes him off the trade market or definitely wouldn’t be surprised if he’s traded, which is it? You can’t talk out both sides of your mouth.

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        • Slipknot37

          7 years ago

          Probably does, but you never know

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      Nope. As with Solarte, if Preller gets a trade offer he feels is fair, he will trade Hand tomorrow. If anything, this makes that more likely considering he now has two more years of control than before with the last one being in club option form.

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Quite the opposite, at that money he might never pitch again for SD and be traded by the end of this month.

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      Why does it take him off the trade market

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  3. chrisisinoside

    7 years ago

    Well deserved!

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  4. pinballwizard1969

    7 years ago

    Based on what relieves are getting in free agency that’s a very decent deal for the Padres and also a nice guarantee for Hand considering the injury potential for pitchers in general.

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  5. takeyourbase

    7 years ago

    Quite the turn of events. You gotta Hand it to him, that’s a nice extension.

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  6. LADreamin

    7 years ago

    A 27 year old lefty with good peripherals and what, 4 or 5 years of control? Sounds like SD has all the leverage.

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    • aff10

      7 years ago

      It was only 2 years of control, but now it’s 4, I guess. I’d have traded him, personally, but there’s a chance he’s great again next year and you can flip him then for more than you could’ve now

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      • LADreamin

        7 years ago

        I think Preller is still going to trade him this offseason. This just gives him more bargaining power. Lefties with good splits out of the back of the bullpen are in high demand. If they miraculously keep him, look for Hand to be on the move by the trade deadline. If he keeps up the good numbers, I expect an Andrew Miller type return for the Padres. Finally, all their posturing would have paid off.

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          Strongly agree. On that contract he somehow is even better value for money.

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        • aff10

          7 years ago

          I doubt it. You can’t really quantify trust, but to trade a player immediately after signing him probably doesn’t leave other players with a good taste in their mouth. Next year, or even at the deadline maybe, I can see, but trading someone immediately after extending them is something you don’t really see

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        Traded him for what? If the suggestions I keep hearing on here and Bleacher Report are any indication I’m glad they kept him. Extension doesn’t bar Preller from trading him at some point down the road.

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        • aff10

          7 years ago

          Well sure, I’m assuming there were actual offers out there, because he’s good and cheap, but I’m not in the SD FO, so I could be wrong.

          As I said in my original post, I know they’re not barred from trading him in the future, but this seems to decrease the likelihood he goes anywhere in the next few months. Relievers are fickle, so I’m usually a proponent of rebuilding teams moving them while they have value.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          This doesn’t decrease the likelihood at all. Preller will move him tomorrow if he gets an offer he likes. If anything, it increases the likelihood he gets traded because now teams might actually pay up since he has four years of control as opposed to two.
          Generally I would agree with you on rebuilding teams trading relievers, but if the offers I heard are any indication, teams were seriously lowballing Preller. With two (now four) years of control left, Preller was under no obligation to trade him so if teams want him, they’re gonna have to pay up. Like I said before, Hand will still have value at the deadline. Idk why everyone seems to think he’s about to regress.

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          If anything, it justs increases his trade value !

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  7. amjr

    7 years ago

    Great to see the Padres extend a hand.

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    • AlvaroEspinoza 2

      7 years ago

      Bravo! Give amjr a hand.

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    • ernestofigueroa87

      7 years ago

      HAAAAA!

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    • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

      7 years ago

      For the win!

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    • thesheriffisnear

      7 years ago

      When it comes to giving a Hand job, no one better than SD

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      • brucewayne

        7 years ago

        It might just be a happy ending after all!

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  8. beersy

    7 years ago

    Didn’t see this coming. Makes you think the Padres might be going all in for Hosmer now. I hope they don’t changes gears too much and mess up this rebuild.

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    • Padres Armchair GM

      7 years ago

      Not necessarily. Preller couldnt let hand walk for free and nobody seemed willing to meet his price.

      Now, he has 4 years of team control instead of 2, making below market value, and britton was his only competition on the market, who is now hurt majority of the year.

      Hand possibly could fetch a miller even chapman type return now given the amount of control and price.

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  9. PBABowler27

    7 years ago

    To me, this says that they’re closer to competing than we might expect. Weird for them to go from nearly trading him all last season to now extending him for multiple years. They might have something up their sleeves.

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    • ernestofigueroa87

      7 years ago

      They might have the hot hand!

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    • Adios pelota!

      7 years ago

      Yeah they might have something up their sleeves but it’s early and they are showing their hand

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      It all depends if their farm hands produce or not. Hopefully they do as it would be great for their fan base

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  10. jdgoat

    7 years ago

    Great deal for the Pads

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  11. walls17

    7 years ago

    Dave Cameron signing????

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  12. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    Hmmm nice move !!!! They buy out some free agent years and he will be on the team if the young guys come up and improve the team to head towards contention. If the rebuild still needs more work he could be traded and get a ton back as he isn’t getting paid a ton either. 6.58 million per year is peanuts for his talent !!

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  13. astros_fan_84

    7 years ago

    Seems like a smart use of money, and may not have anything to do with the bigger picture.

    I think it would be foolhardy to assume this automatically sets up more moves bc hand was already under control and the team isn’t going to win this year.

    I still think he gets traded by July.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      You have a point but keeping him for longer does help the rebuild. They can try to win with him and if all else fails flip him

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  14. MB923

    7 years ago

    3 years/$19.75 Million is a steal

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    • Padres Armchair GM

      7 years ago

      Preller turned out to be smart again by not trading hand at the deadline.

      With britton down the extra year of control significantly boosts his price if he has a hot start again.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      6.58 million per year makes these big closer contracts out there seem like overpay lol (I love Chapman but still)

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  15. Padres Armchair GM

    7 years ago

    Well the price for hand just went up in trades again now that he has more team control and is making below market value.

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  16. Ski to Coors

    7 years ago

    Hand took the deal because its guaranteed money, so if he gets injured, he still gets a decent payday instead of being stuck below 4M AAV. Plus his saves number was never going to make for a great arb case playing on the Padres.

    Padres made him a more attractive trade chip if it comes to it, since the deal is front loaded and comes with an extra year of control now. Bet they’ll make the smart move and trade him, eventually, for some prospect bats to pair up with their insanely deep stash of young pitchers.

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  17. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    Does anyone think he will be in San Diego for the whole 4 years of control that the pads have ?

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      He might not even last into next week.

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  18. halfastros7

    7 years ago

    I was holding out hope that the Astros would work something out to get this guy. I would have loved for him to share closing duties with Giles.

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      So why can’t the Astros still trade for him?

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    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      Id like to see the Cards go after him for sure!

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        I mean, I hope you like giving up Reyes or Flaherty.

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  19. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    Think Padres are all over the place with another sale of team on horizon

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    • dvmwitt

      7 years ago

      Zero signs of that happening. If so, they wouldn’t have spent $80 million on J2 signings in ’16

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        Just ignore him. What most of the other commenters have learned to do.

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Marlins did exactly this.

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        • Padres Armchair GM

          7 years ago

          The marlins signed over priced free agents in buerhle, reyes, bell, traded for zambrano and did a fire sale the following season.

          The marlins this year are under new ownership and selling their best pieces to a. Clear salary and b. Rebuild.

          The padres are doing nothing the marlins have done nor are currently doing. Wtf are you talking about?

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    • Injediwetrust

      7 years ago

      Based on what exactly?

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      @ Padreforlife

      Does anyone know less about baseball then you?

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  20. marinest21 2

    7 years ago

    This seems like a win-win for both: Hand gets paid and the Friars keep him under team control for two more years at a very affordable price.

    On the last point, I don’t think this extension now precludes a trade. In fact, it may cause the Padres to actively shop him more than before. If there is anything we know, Preller thinks way outside the box, and he may believe he now doubled Hand’s value on the trade market with this move.

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  21. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    7 years ago

    Great move by Preller. Were I Hand I probably would have asked for the fourth year to be guaranteed, but oh well.
    And to everyone saying this means he won’t be traded or that the Padres will be trying to contend sooner, not necessarily true. When you have the chance to extend a guy this good for this little money, you do it regardless if how close you are to contending and this probably makes him even more valuable in trades.

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  22. TennVol

    7 years ago

    Hmm, I don’t think the Padres can trade him until July based on rules for new contracts, but, could be wrong. I think that if he is having a great year, the Padres could trade him for a kings ransom at the July deadline.

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Those apply to normal free agents, not sure on extensions.

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      • One Fan

        7 years ago

        It does not apply to extensions

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      99% sure that rule doesn’t apply to extensions.

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    • brucewayne

      7 years ago

      He was already signed with them

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      • brucewayne

        7 years ago

        and not a free agent signing

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  23. Soxman81

    7 years ago

    Love this deal for the Pads! If they intend to keep him as their closer he would’ve warranted more and more money through arbitration because the system rewards closers with saves more than middle relievers, even dominant ones.

    Padres can hang onto Hand and they have a top-10 closer, or if they can get a huge haul for him I think this contract makes him more attractive to other teams.

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  24. hiflew

    7 years ago

    The funniest part about this whole story is the idea that the writer thinks at some point the Padres actually might have a window of contention. I chuckled.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      Will contend before the Reds do

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      • davidcoonce74

        7 years ago

        Or the Braves. I like the Hand extension, I like him more as a multi-inning reliever than a one-inning closer, especially for a team that presumably won’t be defending too many late leads. But he’s been a great find for the Pads.

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  25. driftcat28 2

    7 years ago

    I think this is a mistake by the padres, should’ve traded him while his value is still high

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    • Padres Armchair GM

      7 years ago

      He proved he can be a dominant closer in the 2nd half, just signed a 4 year extension aav about 6.5 mill and you think he lost value since last years deadline? And britton is out till mid season. Hand is the top lefty on the market and has only gone up in value.

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      7 years ago

      His trade value is higher now than it was yesterday.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      Like I said before, this doesn’t preclude a trade and probably makes Hand’s trade value even higher. Every team who gets the opportunity to sign a guy this good for this cheap takes the opportunity, regardless of whether they are contending, rebuilding or doing whatever it is the Orioles are doing.

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Players don’t sign contracts because teams give them a chance they sign because their agent and them think it’s good deal aka Wil Myers who laughed his ass off signing extension

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Brain dead

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          So what is your point Padreforlife? No one said anything about Hand signing just because the team made an offer?

          Do you actually follow baseball???

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        100% Ryan.

        It’s a Solarte-esq. extension. Good for the team and the player. Padres keep him for cheap if they are good, trade him for a haul if they aren’t. Hand gets a guaranteed 19-20M with life-long financial security.

        I like it for all those reasons.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Solarte’s extension definitely wasn’t good for the player. I wouldn’t say this one is either.

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      Extending him has zero to do with trading him or not

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  26. lowtalker1

    7 years ago

    This is a great deal. Hand was probably all for the club friendly extension because preller gave him a chance

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      Thank you. Goodbye lowtalker

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Ahhh a keyboard warrior
        Greetings dbag

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  27. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    7 years ago

    Thinking about the return the Padres could get for that much team control over Hand makes me realize that the Pirates should probably trade Felipe Rivero.

    But he’s so much fun to watch that I hope they don’t even if it is the right baseball move. That slider looks like it will be a hit by pitch and instead nips the outside corner.

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  28. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    7 years ago

    Another smart move by Preller. This made Hand’s value even higher than it already was. Saying that, he will most likely still be moved in the coming year. If they don’t trade him by the deadline, then it might be next offseason. Regardless, he will be bringing back a very nice package.

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Another what’s the others?

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        Shields for Tatis and Kimbrel for Margot, Asuaje, Allen and Guerra. Then he signed Fernando Rodney for $3m to be just as good for the Padres as Kimbrel was.

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        • YODA777

          7 years ago

          Didn’t Preller trade Rodney to the Marlins for Naylor? Naylor may yet turn into a pretty good MLB player [if he can keep his weight under control].

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Nope. Rodney was traded for Chris Paddack. Paddack needed Tommy John surgery after 3 starts in the Padres org but if not for the injury would have entered 2017 as a top 100 prospect in baseball. Reports say he should be ready for Spring ball.

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      • SixFlagsMagicPadres

        7 years ago

        Does Padreforlife actually follow the Padres?

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          No he just rambles on this website about irrelevant horsecrap.

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    • YODA777

      7 years ago

      If Hand pitches as well in 2018 and he did in 2017, then his trade value will go up by a lot. I also think if Hand pitches well in 2018, he won’t be traded as the Padres will need a dominate closer and those would cost a lot more than Hands new contract.

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        He’ll still be traded if the price is right. Padres will just develop another dominant closer. They’ve got a good one in the minors named Andres Munoz.

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          The 18 year old that pitched in the AFL? He was hitting 100 often. Where will he start 2018?

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Spent most of 2017 in low-A but was promoted to A at the end of the season so I’m guessing there.

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  29. juicemane

    7 years ago

    Wild card here we come

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      No.

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  30. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    What’s so great about it dude has had 2 good years and years away from competing.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      One potato two potato three potato four

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    • Padres2019ha

      7 years ago

      moronforlife

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  31. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    Hand value was cheap and good and could of been flipped at deadline for prospects, now have to hope he’s good because trade value went down not up

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    • beersy

      7 years ago

      I shouldn’t even bother asking, but how did Hand’s value go down with signing this deal? If Hand’s value has gone down signing a contract with an AAV of $6.58M, what exactly is the value of all of these other relief pitchers who have signed this off season for a lot more money? It’s one thing to be a Debbie Downer, but this is a good deal for Hand, the Padres and his trade value.

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        Don’t get me wrong, padreforlife is a moron. But how is this a good deal for Hand? You just admitted that relievers like him are getting way more money these days than he signed for.

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        • beersy

          7 years ago

          Because he is getting damn near $20M over the next 3 years with a possible $10M pay day the year after. It doesn’t matter what everyone else is making, Hand just got set up for life, hence a good deal for Hand.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          You admitted that comparable relievers are getting more so that makes it a bad deal for Hand. He would have been set up for life without it. And that possible $10m payday will only come if he pitches well enough that he would have gotten it anyway so that doesn’t help him at all. Club options benefit the team and the team alone.

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        • beersy

          7 years ago

          He has $20M coming to him, I do not feel sorry for Hand in any way, no matter what others are making. If Hand were to suffer a career ending injury this year, I am sure he would rather have $20M then the $4M or $5M he would have had coming to him in arbitration. We all have our own opinions, ours do not match up I guess.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          So the only way this is a positive for him is if he suffers a career ending injury then? I personally feel it would have been okay if he had gotten the 2021 season guaranteed rather than in club option form.

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        • beersy

          7 years ago

          Have you ever been wrong about anything? And I am not even saying I am right about this. Opinions are opinions, everyone has one and with that, they are not always the same.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Plenty of times. And I just feel that Hand could have done better.

          Reply
  32. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    Also what team diverts 60 mil of a contract extension to Wil Myers till 2020? Teams that sell before they have to pay that’s who and offer 100 mil to good not great 1B

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    • dvmwitt

      7 years ago

      What logic are you using to say that Seidler/Fowler are about to sell the team? Because they extended Myers before last season? Because they extended Hand’s contract? None of that makes sense. They just invested over $80 million in their farm system. That doesn’t sound like a sell off to me. They are about to compete in the next 2-3 years.

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      • Padres2019ha

        7 years ago

        Don’t even respond to this girl

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          I realized several months ago that padreforlife has no earthly idea what he or anyone else is talking about. Finally looks like others are realizing it. He’s either the best troll ever or belongs in a mental hospital.

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  33. jd396

    7 years ago

    Insert pun here

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    • eduardoaraisa98

      7 years ago

      I might be able to give you a Hand 😀 ….I’ll leave now

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  34. lowtalker1

    7 years ago

    Still a good deal at a good rate. If he keeps this up this year… it’ll be more expensive. If the padres do trade him… the haul will be more impressive

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      More impressive then what? The haul they never got in the first place?

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  35. ttinsley1434

    7 years ago

    Lol!

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  36. BennyTheBoss

    7 years ago

    Hand for Ohtani!

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  37. cubsbearsbulls2018

    7 years ago

    Bahahahahahahahahaha! Preller is an idiot! Hand isn’t too bright either! Have fun sucking the entire contract in San Diego!

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    • One Fan

      7 years ago

      So Hand is an idiot for signing and Preller is an idiot for offering? Huh? How can you say its a bad deal for both sides?

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      • cubsbearsbulls2018

        7 years ago

        Hand could’ve not signed and gone to free agency after his (now old) deal was up and gotten way more than he did. Preller is dumb because why wouldn’t you trade him for a max return now? The Padres are not going to compete for another 7-10 years easily.

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Trying to show everyone how ignorant you are on purpose. Got it. You did well son

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          @cubsbearsbulls

          Your counter makes no sense but you never do

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        • Injediwetrust

          7 years ago

          AJ is giving Brad security when not too long ago there was a question whether he.d be able to play baseball at all. In return the Pads buyout the expensive arb years to get surplus value plus another year of control. Two, if they pick up the option.

          Using your logic, your boy Rizzo is just as stupid. If not more for signing a 7 yr 41M deal four years ago. Think he could have made more if he just went through arbitration for three years.

          So let me get this right. Jed trades for Brad tomorrow and you would have the same opinion? Pretty sure that wouldn’t be the case.

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          Yes he certainly showed his ignorance … again

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        • cubsbearsbulls2018

          7 years ago

          You keep saying again, but I hardly ever comment on here. I’m sorry you don’t like what I think about the deal. Yes he’s set up for life. Yes Rizzo should’ve gambled on himself. My point is they are rebuilding and Preller could’ve made even more headway with trading him. There was no benefit of signing him to a extension for SD.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          You comment on here all the time. Preller isn’t going to make any headway by trading Hand if the offers I hear about on here and Bleacher Report are any indication and this extension doesn’t bar him from trading Hand later on. The benefit to signing him is getting an impact bullpen arm signed for 4 more years at below market value. That is a positive for any team, regardless of whether they are contending, rebuilding or doing whatever it is the Orioles are doing.

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        • cubsbearsbulls2018

          7 years ago

          Not quite all the time. Anyways, I’m not saying it’s the worst signing ever. Just didn’t make sense to me from either side. Yes I see the benefits, I just think it’s kind of pointless. If I were a MLB player, I’d want to get to a team that has a chance to compete. Sorry for voicing my thoughts. Everyone have a nice night!

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        • cubsbearsbulls2018

          7 years ago

          Note: you didn’t go on one of your rants about Hand is stupid for signing a extension even when he is going to be a free agent next year. Because why would ANY PLAYER not take the MOST MONEY THEY COULD GET?! Oh that’s right, it’s “YOUR TEAM”. A bit hypocritical, but have a nice night regardless!

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          It’s called injury or regression. Of course you can gamble on not getting I justed but this is pro sports. You weren’t just voicing your opinion, you bahahahah’d and called both Preller AND Hand IDIOTS!!!! Not sure how both can be idiots. It’s either one or the other in any “opinion.” Have a nice night!

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        • cubsfan2489

          7 years ago

          I think the point of an opinion is it can be however that person wants. Sounds like his is that both are idiots. It’s a OPINION. That’s the point…

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Cub Bear if you disagree with know it all Ryan he goes child and uses names we are used to it

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Doesn’t mean his opinion is informed. It’s impossible for both sides to be idiots. One side had to have gained from this. I would say that that side was the Padres. Obviously this move doesn’t preclude a trade and arguably makes a trade more likely because it boosts Hand’s trade value.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Another very, articulate, relevant, grammatically correct and well thought out comment padreforlife. The world basks in your intellect like the glowing rays of the sun.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          How doesn’t it make sense for either side? It has to make sense for one of them. If the contract is below market value, it’s the Padres. Otherwise, it’s Hand. I’d say the Padres were the ones who benefited. Hand was two years out from free agency, not one. Idk if I’d go so far as to call him an idiot considering he’s two years out as opposed to a week like Justin Upton, but I do think he could have done better. And you can stop it with your snide “Have a nice nights” now.

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        • cubsfan2489

          7 years ago

          Obviously he’d stop with the have a nice nights thing, it’s daytime. It’d be morning, or afternoon depending where you are in the U.S…..

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          Who are you to say Rizzo should have turned down $41 million. Boy the ignorance on here is amazing.

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          @cubsbearsbulls

          There you go again with b.s. Hand WAS NOT going to be a free agent after next year. He was controlled two more years

          Also who cares what you would want (to go to contender) you have no clue what you would do with $20 million on the table! And who says Padres will not contend? Or that he is not traded to contender anyway!

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          No an opinion had a point. When you take both sides its not an opinion its trolling

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          And there you go making padreforlife’s point

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          I mean in hindsight Rizzo definitely would have been better off not doing that. Arguably even without hindsight.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          He doesn’t have a point. If you pay attention to the comments sections more often you’ll realize that.

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          They can still trade him

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          Plus his value is prob even higher!

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    • Padres Armchair GM

      7 years ago

      Padres will have a winning season and make the playoffs before the bears and bulls do.

      Go worry about aaron rodgers and pray bobby portis and mirotic can get along.

      Reply
  38. bleacherbum

    7 years ago

    Clean deal for both sides.

    It offers the Padres flexibility to keep Hand if they are trying to compete or trading him with club friendly control/cost. Hand gets 19M guaranteed, win for player as well.

    Now with Stammen, Matika and Hand all signed to 2 or more years collectively in the back end of the bullpen, it gives Preller the luxury to trade them at this year’s deadline for much more knowing that the acquiring team gets 1.5 years of them instead of .5 , same with Clayton Richard, if he gets off to a strong start ala: Drew Pomeranz, and someone blows Preller away with a prospect ala: Anderson Espinoza in a trade proposal the return will be much higher with the extension that Preller slapped on him, acquiring team would be getting 1.5 years of him for cheap.

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    • dvmwitt

      7 years ago

      Can’t see anyone offering us a decent return for Clayton Richard. If anything, you’d have to package him up like Cahill/Mauer/Buchter and hope that they get a Ruiz buried in the return.

      Reply
  39. aussiegiants53

    7 years ago

    So I haven’t read all the comments and I’m sure it’s been mentioned… but you think this has happened as to increase his trade value? Hope he has another good season and flip him??

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    • need_a_no-no_pads

      7 years ago

      Seems most people are split. Padres fans see it as a potential bargaining chip for the future, even if that future is before the start of the season. Non Padres fans see it as a win-win (generally) and this one idiot, PadreforLife sees it abstractly like a Van Gogh painting.

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      • Padres2019ha

        7 years ago

        For the record, he is not a Padre fan

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        • need_a_no-no_pads

          7 years ago

          Exactly why I didn’t lump him in with those two categories…

          Reply
        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Ok fan police.

          Reply
        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Ooooooh, what a sick burn!

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    • Yankeepatriot

      7 years ago

      At worst he is more valuable deadline bait. At best he stays long enough for the beginning of the padres (hopefully) upcoming

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  40. Jimcarlo Slaton

    7 years ago

    Padres have Hand but might not need him. Great trade chip if San Diego doesn’t go anywhere this year and Hand continues on his 2016-2017 success.

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  41. keepinthafaithsd1

    7 years ago

    Man you guys are idiots of course his value just went up. They basically added another year to a team friendly contract. Hand made out by not having to fight arbitration. Win-win both sides. This does not rule out a trade or mean that were going to keep him long term.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      How is it a win-win if the Padres gain control of two of his free agent years for below market value?

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      • keepinthafaithsd1

        7 years ago

        Is he not getting more money??

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          What did Hand get out of this that he wasn’t going to get anyway?

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          A guarantee of generational money.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          You mean the same generational money he was going to get anyway?

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          Only going to get if he did not get hurt the next two years. He is a pitcher. They can blow out the arm or elbow or shoulder anytime. Even a reliever. He chose to not take that chance and you knock him for it like he has some nerve to be conservative about it, non greedy, take a bit of a discount and lock up generational wealth. Easy for you to see WC Ryan

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Why shouldn’t Hand be greedy? You know Preller will trade him in a heartbeat if he gets an offer he likes.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Generational money ha

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Brain dead ha

          Reply
      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Good ? For Chatroom

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      • keepinthafaithsd1

        7 years ago

        I believe even Hand came out and said that he’s set for life now. I’m para phrasing here..

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        • One Fan

          7 years ago

          That is pretty much what he said

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      • One Fan

        7 years ago

        Because he is guaranteed almost $20 million! So he took a discount to guarantee the money.
        Who the heck are you to knock him for it

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          A discount isn’t a win-win. Not ever.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Ok Scott Boras

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Ok Tommy Jessop

          Reply
  42. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    It’s good if he stays healthy and performs. He’s had 2 good years.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      hurrrrr da durrrrr
      *fart noises*

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