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Marlins Hire Skip Schumaker As Manager

By Darragh McDonald | October 25, 2022 at 11:00pm CDT

The Marlins have settled on their next manager, announcing Tuesday evening they’ve tabbed Cardinals bench coach Skip Schumaker. He replaces Don Mattingly, who spent seven years in the role before he and the Marlins mutually agreed to part ways. Schumaker’s contract runs through the 2024 season, and the Marlins hold a club option on his services for 2025.

“After an extensive process, it is with great pride and excitement that we announced Skip Schumaker as manager of the Miami Marlins,” chairman and principal owner Bruce Sherman said in the statement announcing the news. Schumaker made a statement of his own. “I’m very excited and grateful that Bruce, (general manager Kim Ng), and the Marlins organization have given me an opportunity to manage a very talented team. Delivering a winning, sustainable culture with the expectation of getting into the postseason is the next step for this organization and South Florida – and I can’t wait to get started.”

As another disappointing season was winding down in Miami, it was reported that Mattingly and the club would go their separate ways. Over the past few weeks, recent reporting indicated that the final four candidates were Schumaker, Rays’ bench coach Matt Quatraro, Astros’ bench coach Joe Espada and Yankees’ third base coach Luis Rojas.

Schumaker, 43 in February, played in the big leagues from 2005 to 2015, spending time with the Cardinals, Dodgers and Reds. He signed a minor league deal with the Padres for 2016 but announced his retirement in March. It didn’t take long for him to get involved in post-playing roles, as he was hired by the Padres to be their first base coach for 2018. Prior to the 2020 season, the Friars gave him the title of “associate manager.”

One year ago, the Cardinals surprisingly parted ways with manager Mike Shildt despite a solid run in the dugout. Once they promoted Oli Marmol to take over, they suddenly had a vacancy at the bench coach position and hired Schumaker to take that over. The Marmol-Schumaker pairing seemed to work well, as the Cards went 93-69 in 2022 and recaptured the Central division. However, the club will now be looking for a new bench coach for a second year in a row.

For the Marlins, they are looking to take a turn after years of frustration. Outside of the pandemic-shortened 2020 season, they haven’t made the playoffs since way back in 2003. There have been many frustrating stops and starts for the fans in that time, with 2022 once seeming like it could have been the year that the Marlins made a serious jump into contention. They had a strong pitching staff and supplemented their position player mix by bringing in outside additions like Jorge Soler, Avisaíl García, Jacob Stallings and Joey Wendle. Unfortunately, all four of those players dealt with injury or underperformance or both. When combined with injuries and disappointing results elsewhere on the roster, Miami fell well out of contention again and ended up with a 69-93 record.

Ng and the rest of the front office will surely be hoping that Schumaker will be instrumental in turning things around. The impacts of coaches can be difficult to quantify, but there’s no doubting Schumaker has made a quick rise through the ranks. It was just a few years ago that he was still playing, and he quickly joined the big leagues as a coach without first requiring a stint in the minors. From there, he got a promotion in San Diego and then has been quickly poached by two different organizations, highlighting the respect he has around the game. If that’s not enough, Marlins players are quickly showcasing their approval, with Jazz Chisholm Jr. and Sandy Alcantara both taking to social media to share their enthusiasm (Twitter links).

Of course, a manager alone can not turn a poor team into a champion. There is still a lot of work for the Marlins to do this winter in upgrading their roster. But for now, they can cross one item off their to-do list, adding a young up-and-coming manager who seems to have tremendous respect throughout the game.

Craig Mish of SportsGrid and the Miami Herald was first to report the Marlins were hiring Schumaker, and to report Schumaker’s contract details.

Image courtesy of USA Today Sports.

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  1. RyanD44

    3 years ago

    Now they better have the nicest cleats in the league.

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      3 years ago

      You can say that again

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  2. RyanD44

    3 years ago

    Now they better have the nicest cleats in the league!

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    • User 3595123227

      3 years ago

      We get the message 44DD.

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  3. ajrodz1335

    3 years ago

    Common Marlins L

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    • Big Smoke

      3 years ago

      This is a bad move by the Marlins because… ?

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      • Deadguy

        3 years ago

        Skip Schumacher will be a great manager for the marlins. Was hoping he come back to STL for another year, but I’m happy for him

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        • chound

          3 years ago

          No he won’t. He is going to be just another manager in a horrible franchise. The greatest contribution he is going to make is helping young players get max trade value.

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        • smytds

          3 years ago

          So you’re saying he’ll be a great manager for the marlins.

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        • kmk1986

          3 years ago

          How do u know? Do u say that about anyone?

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  4. keysox

    3 years ago

    Low man on the pay scale won.
    Bad move.

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    • Pads Fans

      3 years ago

      No one knows what he signed for or what any of the others were asking for, so why troll?

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      • iverbure

        3 years ago

        Because these simpletons think they know what makes a good manager. These simpletons are the types of people who yell at the Tv wondering why a pitcher is pulled in the 6th inning when he’s pitching good. Imagine watching a sport and having absolutely zero clue as to what and how teams are constructed and how they’re managed?

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        • User 3595123227

          3 years ago

          When I used to go to work the first thing I did was send the guy home who was doing a good job. Just makes sense. Sabermetrics lol.

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        • bobsquad

          3 years ago

          and if you know from history that you get diminishing returns on that workload? that the tasks ahead are better suited for a specialist on the job? and it is in the longer-term interest that you keep that guy in shape for the next time you expect him?

          we’re not talking wRC+ here, you’re criticizing responsible management

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        • User 3595123227

          3 years ago

          Most people do their jobs and go home. Chances are the best guy is already doing the job. Responsible management is putting the best guy in there. Letting him do what needs to be done. You don’t kick him out when things are going well. If what you are saying is really the way to do it lol nothing good would happen. You leave your best in there until you you see a problem ahead. You aren’t going to sabermetric the world to death. It’s ridiculous.

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        • BeansforJesus

          3 years ago

          “Chances are the best guy is already doing the job.”

          Did you work on Earth with the rest of us?

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          Retired is the exactly the type of person I was referring to. Zero clue as to how baseball is played in 2022.

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        • User 3595123227

          3 years ago

          Lol

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        • knolln

          3 years ago

          he’s been about to break into managing a major league team for like 4 years. probably had a dozen interviews. it was going to happen somewhere. i don’t think they went for minimal cost

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        • User 401527550

          3 years ago

          How was it that pitchers had no problem throwing 130 to 150 pitches and pitched 250 innings a season not but thirty years ago? I guess bringing in a speciality guy like Aaron Loup in the 6th for bob gibson would be the way to go in responsible management. The reason pitchers can’t go longer today is because of artificial pitch counts placed at early stages in their professional careers.

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        • User 401527550

          3 years ago

          And that’s why the quality of the product is diminished in 2022 and they are marking constant new rules to combat it.

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        • User 3595123227

          3 years ago

          Trying to fix something that isn’t broken is stupid. Coming up with new rules to fix something that you broke trying to fix it is in another class of stupid. People (like yourself)that don’t understand that are the laughing stock. Clueless how baseball is played in 2022…….wow.

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        • Lanidrac

          3 years ago

          Because they leaned from trial and error that it wasn’t the best way to manage them. Throwing all those pitches and innings back then caused many otherwise avoidable injuries and otherwise wasn’t optimal for those pitchers’ long term health.

          Also, pitchers overall throw harder than they used to, and that extra velocity causes extra wear and fatigue that most pitchers decades ago didn’t have.

          There is also more bullpen specialization and overall reliever quality these days rather than when most relievers were the guys who just weren’t as good as the starters back before the ’80s

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        • User 401527550

          3 years ago

          Yes Nolan Ryan and Bob Gibson had such short careers and threw so much slower then today’s pitchers. The pitch count is usually an arbitrary number that sounds good. Like these guys arms will fall off after 90-100 pitches. The reason for the injuries now is the pitch limits. It’s making pitchers stamina’s low with little arm strength and then trying to throw 110.

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        • User 401527550

          3 years ago

          There are more injuries now then ever before. Medical advancements have allowed careers to continue and not arbitrarily having pitch counts.

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        • kmk1986

          3 years ago

          I bet u some of those guys couldn’t wipe their own butt or comb their own hair without grimacing

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        • kmk1986

          3 years ago

          That’s not true. People r more knowledgeable and understand better the risks of constant repetition of a unnatural motion

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        • Lanidrac

          3 years ago

          Guys like Gibson and Ryan had long and mostly healthy careers despite their excessive workloads. There are always exceptions.

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        • User 3595123227

          3 years ago

          Let me guess you still work for KMart?

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        • Pads Fans

          3 years ago

          They were not the norm. In 1969 the average time in the league for pitchers was 2 years 146 days. Today its more than a year more.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 years ago

          Players are paid more today, so owners protect their product by not forcing them to play through injuries.

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        • User 401527550

          3 years ago

          Players weren’t paid that good back then. Some left for higher pay in other careers.

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    • Chemo850

      3 years ago

      Dude…let’s be honest here…you’re talking about an organization that didn’t even wanna pay their own mascot. Everyone knows this guy was the lowest paid among the group without even needing to look at the numbers. There’s a reason they didn’t go after a vetted guy. The cheapness in Miami continues

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      • Pads Fans

        3 years ago

        No one knows that. Mattingly was certainly not the lowest paid manager in baseball. A bad manager, but not even close to the lowest paid.

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    • goalieguy41

      3 years ago

      Says the troll with zero baseball experience

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      • chound

        3 years ago

        Stupid comment is stupid.

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      • kmk1986

        3 years ago

        I love how a a fan has an opposite take from u they r automatically a troll no one else can have a different take from u get over it man it’s a free site to comment

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  5. steven st croix

    3 years ago

    Figured Espada would have been the pick.

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    • Orbit

      3 years ago

      Espada is taking over in Houston after this season.

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      • Pads Fans

        3 years ago

        You have talked to Crane about that? I guess that is why Espada interviewed for so many jobs during the playoffs this season?

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      • User 2079935927

        3 years ago

        That’s Espada was interviewing for other jobs huh huh.

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        • qbert1996

          3 years ago

          Or maybe Skip just interviewed better? Or is that too big a stretch for you to comprehend?

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        • Pads Fans

          3 years ago

          That is hilarious. Not that he is an extremely sought after talent that teams have interviewed for several years now. The ONLY reason he has interviewed is JUST because he is a minority. Yeah. Sure. Right.

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    • Yankee Clipper

      3 years ago

      Perhaps he did interview better. Or, perhaps Kim Ng was already familiar with Espada & his mentors from his time with the Yankees and she felt that wouldn’t translate well to their organization.

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  6. stretch123

    3 years ago

    Lol –
    Why does it feel like they hired the guy who would cost the least salary to manage the team??

    I think Skip will be a good manager but I absolutely felt like Joe Espada was the choice here. Maybe Espada told them that he is waiting for Houston job.

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    • Gothamcityriddler

      3 years ago

      It’s Skippy to his close friends. Ahahaha!

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    • rememberthecoop

      3 years ago

      That makes no sense. Why would Espada interview if he wasn’t interested?

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      • stretch123

        3 years ago

        I’m not saying he wasn’t interested. But maybe Houston told him their job is his after the interview. Or maybe his salary demands were not what the marlins wanted to pay him .

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        • thickiedon

          3 years ago

          They couldn’t have told him before he interviewed?

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    • rockofloveusa

      3 years ago

      Joe Espada was the choice here i disagree .
      at the end the choice was Matt Quatraro, or Skip Schumaker.
      cards know how to get most out of player’s.
      is he the bet pick maybe or maybe not. we wont know to he gone.
      we all forget game of baseball be play different next season. .

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  7. Rsox

    3 years ago

    It could be the Marlins didn’t want to wait for the World Series to be over to get an answer from Espada.

    Schumaker is an interesting choice, his name has been thrown around the past few years. Maybe the fish get lucky

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    • thickiedon

      3 years ago

      Couldn’t wait 2 weeks max? That’s unbelievable

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      • Rsox

        3 years ago

        In two weeks Schumaker could have been hired by the Royals (or White Sox, don’t know if he was on their list) and Espada could have decided to stay in Houston as either bench coach or Dusty’s replacement leaving the Marlins to have find another candidate that maybe they weren’t as high on. Obviously if they wanted Espada and if he wanted to go to Miami none of today would matter, guessing that wasn’t the case

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  8. BrettPhillips for Prezident

    3 years ago

    A new Skip for the marlins

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  9. SliderWithCheese

    3 years ago

    Tells you all you need to know when someone bolts the cardinals after only one year to go to the Marlins.

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    • Jonny5

      3 years ago

      Your comment tells me everything I need to know about your lack of intelligence.

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      • SliderWithCheese

        3 years ago

        Yes, graduating Harvard and managing hedge funds in my 20’s on. my way to becoming a billionaire was due to my lack of intelligence.

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        • DonOsbourne

          3 years ago

          …..and yet you’re insecure enough to upvote all your own comments. Interesting.

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        • SliderWithCheese

          3 years ago

          My interns do it for me Jeff

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          3 years ago

          Slider:

          That was funny! Even if you are in your Mommy’s basement.

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        • Cardsfanatik redux

          3 years ago

          anyone that’s got to boast about their livelihood, is probably making it up.

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          3 years ago

          Cool, what’s your name so we can look you up in the alumni database

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        • chound

          3 years ago

          The value of your hedge fund likely wouldn’t even pay for the hedges in your neighbor’s yard.

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        • rockofloveusa

          3 years ago

          you saying you never done it lol
          everyone has

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    • Pangolin

      3 years ago

      Tell me your dad signed a big fat check without telling me your dad signed a big fat check. ^

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    • outhaus33

      3 years ago

      As a Cards fan, Skip will be missed, but why wouldn’t he take a promotion given the chance?! That says absolutely zero about the organization

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      • Buster79

        3 years ago

        I may not be Harvard educated, but it seems like a promotion to me. He got the big job, and that’s not a knock on the cards. He may not be on his way to making billions, but I’m sure he’s making more than he did as a coach. Congratulations Skip! You’ll be missed.

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    • thickiedon

      3 years ago

      Skip bolted out of San Diego for the same job in St. Louis last year.

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    • qbert1996

      3 years ago

      Or maybe… just maybe… he wanted to be a manager?

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      • chound

        3 years ago

        Checks out!

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      I’d bolt, too, for a big pay raise and promotion.

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  10. Monkey’s Uncle

    3 years ago

    If Skip the manager is anything like Skip the player, I love this hire for Miami.

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  11. Cincyfan85

    3 years ago

    New managers are like a box of chocolates so I’m not going to judge this decision. Good luck, Skip!

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  12. petersdylan36

    3 years ago

    I think this is a great hire. He played a leadership role off the bench in front office in SD and apparently, people love him.

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    • CrikesAlready

      3 years ago

      I remember when he came to Padres spring training and, while he was vying for a spot on the roster, everybody was talking about him becoming a future coach and manager.

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  13. Sunday Lasagna

    3 years ago

    They cut Mattingly’s salary from 2.8M to an undisclosed number under $2M 3 years ago and now decided to part ways. It will not be a shock to hear that Skip will be making significantly less than Donnie did. Will the Marlins put the savings on the field?

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    • pinstripes17

      3 years ago

      Probably not

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    • rockofloveusa

      3 years ago

      who had control at time that happen???
      and don agree he wanted to be in miami for 10 to 12 . but that when loria was owner.

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    • Big whiffa

      3 years ago

      Lol. What’s 2 mil gonna get u on the field ?? A 5th outfielder or the low leverage bullpen arm with no guarantee to be on the big league squad. So yeah, they’ll sign a guy like that no doubt

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      What impactful player are you looking at for $800,00?

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  14. miltpappas

    3 years ago

    I like this move, They still won’t win. But it’s a good move.

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  15. Dogs for Hire

    3 years ago

    Mattingly is waiting on Boone to get the old Heave-Ho or the Yankees are going to play Jeopardy.

    I’ll take the IDIOT for $200, Alex.

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    • Lanidrac

      3 years ago

      I’ll take New Jeopardy Hosts for $200, Ken.

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  16. Pads Fans

    3 years ago

    Congrats Skip! Great hire Marlins. He was a stabilizing presence with the Padres and the Cardinals played well with him as their bench coach.

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  17. big boi

    3 years ago

    Skip the skip

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      3 years ago

      Darn skippy!

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  18. Slider_withcheese

    3 years ago

    Good hire. I’m attracted to him

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  19. Braves Butt-Head

    3 years ago

    They cannot draw anyone to their games and have the 2nd worst attendance figures in baseball. They are nowhere near contending and if they do contend the team will trade star players off. But other than that it’s a great job.

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    • SliderWithCheese

      3 years ago

      He knows all of this and still would rather be in that situation than in St. Louis.

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      • iH8PaperStraws

        3 years ago

        If they are in baseball and desire to manage anyone would take the job. If you don’t succeed the first time, it can be chalked up to terrible circumstances and you almost always get a second shot. Mike Matheny even got a second shot and he could barely tie his shoes. Mattingly got a second shot too and he was terrible with the Dodgers. You can also go back to bench coaching, but you may never get the second job offer to manage if you don’t take the first one.

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      • kmk1986

        3 years ago

        Maybe he wants all the glory hmm. He’s dreaming of winning the World Series and being carried off into the sunset of Miami with his teammates

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    • Sunday Lasagna

      3 years ago

      Marlins drew 2.2M in 2012 for a 69-93 team and a decade later in 2022 drew only 900K for a 69-93 team. What happened? People in Miami don’t like baseball anymore?
      The Dayton Dragons drew half that in just 56 home games. Dayton has a population of 140K vs Miami’s 440K……sad times for baseball in Miami.

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      • Big Smoke

        3 years ago

        Yeah, I wonder what happened to the Marlins in 2012? Such an enigma.

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      • Big whiffa

        3 years ago

        Wow. Dayton must draw more fans on average than Cincinnati. I’m only shocked bc Dayton is a reds affiliate.

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      • cuban363566

        3 years ago

        That team had just changed their name to the Miami Marlins, hired a new manager in Ozzie Guillen and signed a handful of free agents in Jose Reyes, Carlos Zambrano, Heath Bell and Mark Buerhle all in anticipation of moving into a new stadium and the team went out and $hit the bed right from opening day. This should give paise to all those saying the Marlins need to spend money as though that promises winning, instead of doing what the Rays and Astros have done in taking advantage of being cellar dwellers and developing their draft picks and building from within.

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        • Sunday Lasagna

          3 years ago

          @cuban363566, thank you, and agreed the Astros and Rays can be learned from. But when the Astros develop players they sign them to 5 year deals that buy out their arbitration years so that a core of solid players keeps them winning. When the Rays develop players, they may sign one or two but generally make trades to bring back hoards or other useful players. Alcantara aside, the Marlins have not received great hauls for the players they develop and when they have a young star they sign them and have contract remorse (Stanton) or they just don’t sign them.

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      • rockofloveusa

        3 years ago

        wont be saying that during wbc..
        i just think everyone tire of city jersey has nothing to do with miami. lol

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    • rockofloveusa

      3 years ago

      They are nowhere near contending
      you for get marlins have 49 1 run losses
      they drew more without jeter this year also

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  20. stubby66

    3 years ago

    Good for Skip. This will be a stepping stone to him getting a real managerial job in a year or two. Surprised that Mike Redmond hasn’t been given a shot yet with a real team.

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  21. DonOsbourne

    3 years ago

    Congratulations!?!?! Tell Sandy Cardinals fans send their regards.

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  22. fre5hwind

    3 years ago

    “It’s our skip, skip.”

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  23. Get Off My Mound

    3 years ago

    Good for Skip. Always nice to see former, well-respected players get their opportunity to run the dugout.

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    • Yanks2

      3 years ago

      Aaron Boone is the one exception

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  24. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    Meanwhile Miami is trading their mascot to Richmond for theirs.

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    • rockofloveusa

      3 years ago

      no that the reds

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  25. vaderzim

    3 years ago

    I’m just happy their new Skip is named “Skip”

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    • Jon M

      3 years ago

      Skip is a nickname. His real name is Manager Schumaker

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      • Rick Wilkins

        3 years ago

        Well done Jon!

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  26. rockofloveusa

    3 years ago

    i remember everyone in Cardinals place telling him don’t take marlins job.
    he call them out . said he not waiting to get a manger job. . hat cards may not give him.
    at lest it not anther new york failure.

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  27. Hired Gun 23

    3 years ago

    I can’t get behind this hire. Something says he’ll have moderate success at best. You cannot hire a guy named Skip to be your next skipper. Just kidding…good luck, Schu!

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    • rockofloveusa

      3 years ago

      all he has to do not do what don done . do the opposite. lol
      not put lewis brison type player over 100 abs and Miguel Rojas in abs a lot in key time like base loaded.

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      • utah cornelius

        3 years ago

        Do you ever type English?

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        • rockofloveusa

          3 years ago

          do you read it

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    • Big whiffa

      3 years ago

      “Something” hmmm…..like being in the NL east ??

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  28. Braveslifer

    3 years ago

    Great hire.

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  29. Champs64

    3 years ago

    Great hire by the Fish. I would have loved to continue having Skip in the Cardinal’s dugout. I think he has learned a great deal and is ready for the job. Congratulations.

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  30. bravesfan

    3 years ago

    Meh. The marlins, where managers dreams go to die lol

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      The Marlins have one more World Championship than the Astros.

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  31. Jon M

    3 years ago

    “very talented team”

    ?!?

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    • stretch123

      3 years ago

      Top 3 pitching staff in MLB? Duh.

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      • Chemo850

        3 years ago

        #1 Talent wise. But baseball ain’t played on paper or an analytics board so we’ll see.

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  32. Old York

    3 years ago

    Book the MLB championship parade in Miami for 2023!

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    • stretch123

      3 years ago

      2024 tbh

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  33. A'sfaninUK

    3 years ago

    He cant be any worse at managing than he was at playing, my god how did he win a title, when he was definitely handicapping the team? One of the worst regulars in recent memory.

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    • Yanks2

      3 years ago

      At least the Marlins didn’t sign Aaron Boone as manager

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  34. MarlinsFanBase

    3 years ago

    Well, we won’t know what he can do until we see him manage. But I will once again say that, if Ng does not get him a legit Closer, it won’t make a difference. This bullpen will blow leads no matter who the manager is.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 years ago

      I think Floro is ok as closer a power hitting 3B and a decent hitting CF are more pressing.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        3 years ago

        Maybe trade a pitcher to the Dodgers for Miguel Vargas, and trade a second pitcher to the Dbacks for Alek Thomas?

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        3 years ago

        @MannyBeingMVP

        I actually do not want Floro as our Closer. He has been part of the problem. Not one of the worse parts, but still part of the problem. Definitely not the guy for us. I’ve seen him melt under pressure too many times. And his body language always shows when he’s about to melt.

        I agree about 3B. With CF, I’d keep an eye on Bellinger with the Dodgers. He’s a guy that I’d love the Marlins to take a flyer on because I think he may need a change of scenery. A low pressure situation like Miami would probably be perfect for him.

        As for the lineup, I’d be inclined more to trade Pablo Lopez to add an additional bat as well at perhaps SS or 2B (Jazz to SS). I’d revisit that trade with the Yankees and Gleyber Torres. Here’s more or less what I’d do in the offseason.

        Sign Josh Bell and Brandon Drury
        Keep an eye on the possibility of getting Bellinger.
        Possibly trade for someone like Torres. Here’s how we’d look if we could do these.

        C – Fortes (Stallings backing up)
        1B – Bell
        2B – Jazz
        SS – Torres
        3B – Drury
        LF – Sanchez/Bleday/de la Cruz/Burdick
        CF – Bellinger/de la Cruz/Burdick
        RF – Garcia
        DH – Soler

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        • GarryHarris

          3 years ago

          That is still a last place team. The Marlins lack top of the order speedy set up men and do not have much of a pen. Even with all the free agents healthy, they weren’t a contending team.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          3 years ago

          Marlins

          I actually strongly agree with your suggested moves except the closer and Torres. If Floro is not the answer, then another Marlins pitcher will be it.

          If they would spend the money for Josh Bell that would be good, but they will have competition and he will not be cheap. Drury will be slightly less and is a position of greater need. Cooper will also make the roster. Fortes is the starter in a 60-40 time share. Bellinger is a good gamble for the Marlins if it is a one year deal. However, I do not see trading for Torres.

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        • Habeto

          3 years ago

          And also @MannyBeingMVP here is what I think about a potential Pablo López trade. It would be interesting reading your thoughts:

          fishstripes.com/2022/10/19/23412405/best-buddies-f…

          It would be wonderful to have both Bell and Belli (no pun intended), but that is quite a long shot. The FO will continue to be frugal. Maybe a Bellinger – Avisail García swap (involving more players or money, of course) can work for both teams since the Dodgers need a right-handed power bat in their lineup.

          I do not see the Fish spending on any top 20 position player in the FA market this winter but seems probable to allocate some money into two bullpen arms, e.g, Rafael Montero, Alex Colomé, Ken Giles, Jeurys Familia, Seth Lugo, Chris Martin, Trevor Williams, Leclerc (if opts out), among others.

          In any case, new bats will come via trade, I believe. Not tendering players like Anderson/Wendle, Hernandez, and Sulser can save them around $6M plus a modest payroll increase can do the required money to bring those arms.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          3 years ago

          Don’t think Cubs will part with Hoerner and doubt Dodgers want Avisail. But a lot of the other ideas are interesting and creative.

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        • rockofloveusa

          3 years ago

          Stallings backing up wont happen.
          because pitcher trust him more. unless traded.
          at closer i would not be surprise marlins during spring call up Jorge Mercedes rhp
          dont see major trade for one. free agents only in closer role.

          only like bell 1b has to be fix .
          my question is what do you do with Miguel Rojas( (not traded 1st), ,Brian Anderson ,Garrett Cooper ,?
          Brandon Drury dont see unless Garcia DH – Soler one traded and their some teams asking.
          i would not do trade Pablo Lopez unless one good minor sp ,closer you want and a hitter

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          3 years ago

          Great comments from everyone.

          To add, I’m for a Lopez trade for a bat, but would love a Closer as well. But

          I’d prefer a free agent sort of signing for Closer. If the Marlins want to spend, I go all in on Edwin Diaz. If not, take a look at the possibility of Chapman or Kimbrel. If taking a flyer, see if someone like Ken Giles has anything left.

          As for questions about some players who are currently on the roster, I’d move on from Cooper and Miggy Rojas to look in other directions. Same thing with Wendle. I’d keep Anderson in a pivot role at 3B/OF to make him earn playing time. LeBlanc has pushed the other three off the roster in my opinion, especially when combined with Groshans and Berti.

          I get some people may hesitate about Stallings being the backup at catcher, but Fortes has been progressing at catcher and started getting a good deal of time as the season progressed. He’s the guy going forward. Some people may think it’s a little wacky to say, but he has been on a similar track as when we first brought Realmuto up (but Fortes having less running speed).

          Life would be easier for Marlins fans if Bruce Sherman bucked the trend of past Marlins owners, and actually went and spent like a team that is located in Miami…the same home as the Heat and Dolphins. We don’t ask to spend like the Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Red Sox, and other big market teams, but at least spend like the Braves, Brewers, Guardians, Twins, D-Backs, Rockies, etc.

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        • rockofloveusa

          3 years ago

          Anderson in a pivot role at 3B/OF to make him earn playing time..
          he has earn his playing time . in of along . he keep more runner at 2b , 3b than any marlins had last two years. and thrown more out at home.
          why i 100% did not agree with Garcia being brought in.

          why i would not trade Pablo Lopez . ( if do see if worth it / wont complain, like i did with zac from day one))
          . Cooper and Miggy Rojas Wendle should bring bat in . unless you trade for minor leaguers . witch we have at ss better hitter than Miggy Rojas.( maybe not defense) (speed better yes )
          i do support your ideal 1b bell – like him to share with Josh Naylor if not Cooper

          Heat and Dolphins. marlins never out do. unless they are winning only times they made more money than heat.. only thing that help marlins is tv rating in pass that better than panthers and heat. in the pass.
          Agree …the same home as the Heat and Dolphins.. but marlins never out do Dolphins. along..
          i only support 100% marlins inn miami . heat once in blue moon . cause of wade.
          what forget David Beckham will do marlins no favorites . like he would heat. he said that at lest 5 times in Miami times. mls i would never support in miami
          i do support what you saying…

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  35. Hello, Newman

    3 years ago

    Skip there it is!

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  36. Canosucks

    3 years ago

    Congrats to the Fish, when I heard they brought Rojas back for a second interview as a Mets fan I kinda hoped but as a human being I wouldn’t wish that upon anybody and wouldn’t want to win that way!

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  37. Canosucks

    3 years ago

    Marlins need to get Anthony Bass back in the pen; he was solid for them.
    Don’t think Toronto extended him yet?

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  38. tutopelotas1

    3 years ago

    ESPADA was Best Fit …. Marlins blew it again !!!

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    • Big Smoke

      3 years ago

      You were in the same room as Espada and Skip when they were interviewed? That’s crazy

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  39. TheOtherMikeD

    3 years ago

    Is he going to teach them to adjust their batting gloves after every pitch?

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  40. MarlinsFanBase

    3 years ago

    I see @CanoSucks giving misinformation again. Anthony Bass is not welcomed back to Miami. Of course a Mets fan would want Bass back with the Marlins. While pitching for the Marlins, Bass won more games for the Mets in 2021 than Lindor did.

    Troll job or another stupid comment.

    But I’m thinking the latter since he made that statement about Rojas. Rojas and Bass are both bad for the Marlins.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 years ago

      Just to clarify, you mean Luis not Miguel is a bad choice.

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        3 years ago

        Yes, I meant Luis Rojas.

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  41. User 163535993

    3 years ago

    Well I guess Shumaker figures he can get some experience with not a lot of pressure. Other than a good young rotation there’s not a ton to like here but wish him luck. With Soler and Garcia’s bad contracts they’re probably not deep diving into FA. I can see him going to Ng and saying hey we need this and her opening up her purse and moths flying out.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      Ng’s purse isn’t the issue — it’s Sherman’s wallet that matters.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      “He cant be any worse at managing than he was at playing, my god how did he win a title, when he was definitely handicapping the team?”

      A +0.8 bWAR, 91 OPS+, .283 BA and .333 OBP doesn’t seem like much of a handicap.

      Yuli Gurriel has a -0.3 bWAR, 84 OPS+, .242 BA and .288 OBP this year, and he’s playing in the World Series. The Astros played him as their primary starting first baseman.

      Besides, playing and managing require different skills. No manager won more World Series than Joe McCarthy, and he never made it to the majors as a player.

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  42. Fire Krall

    3 years ago

    About time he gets a shot! Skip was a class act with the Reds. He was great with my kids at Redsfest. Wish him success!

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  43. Edp007

    3 years ago

    Too much made of language issues. Every one of them , coaches , players etc are all bilingual. They all speak fluently the language of baseball and the language of $$$

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  44. User 3663041837

    3 years ago

    Good for Skip. He’s been well liked throughout his playing career and within the Pads and Cards organizations as a coach. Hopefully he can bring a level-headed approach to the young players and motivate them.

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  45. BobGibsonFan

    3 years ago

    “the Friars gave him the title of “associate manager.””, is that anything like Assistant to the Regional Manager?

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  46. Nick W

    3 years ago

    At least he is taking over with a plus rotation. Hopefully the Marlins can do something to acquire a bat or two

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  47. msqboxer

    3 years ago

    I was hoping the CWS would hire Guillen and trade him to the Marlins again….

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  48. SharksFan91

    3 years ago

    Gee, imagine that. Another typical keeping the status quo MLB “good ‘ol boy” manager hire (just like the NFL)! Ridiculous!

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  49. BigFred

    3 years ago

    My favorite Skip Schumaker story… “One day when Skip Schumaker was a little boy, several prominent Dodgers refused to sign his glove. Orel Hershiser then came along and said, “I’m not famous, but I’m on the Dodgers, and I’ll sign for you.” Schumaker wore Hershiser’s 55 for his most of his career.”
    mlblogsdodgers.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/when-orel-…

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  50. Canosucks

    3 years ago

    @Marlins Fan Base I was trying to be nice on both accounts; if you read my comment on Rojas I was happy for you and your team he did not go with your club!???

    Secondly Bass numbers in 2022
    Wins 4 Losses 3 ERA 1.54 Games 73 IP 70.1 SO 73

    I would take that all day long compared to Lowly Rodriguez of the Mets.

    How is that a bad line and wishing you and the Marlins bad as a troll. Wow Dude!
    No good deed goes unpunished!

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  51. nottinghamforest13

    3 years ago

    They found someone so desperate for a managerial role that he would agree to never challenge or question the decisions of the destructive and overmatched Kim Ng. The team is doing everything it can to save face in the wake of the decision to give this individual the GM job to appear woke.

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    • utah cornelius

      3 years ago

      Why do you hate women so much you have to go after Ng in every single Marlins article? Why don’t you go after all the bad male GM’s who have been bad for years and years and years? Why just this one woman who has been around for like five seconds? Your comments say more about you than her.

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    • SharksFan91

      3 years ago

      Your IQ is showing. That’s not a good thing when it’s close to the number of fingers on your hands.

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  52. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    As a White Sox fan, I’m very happy with this. No offense to Skip in the least – he’ll probably do a fine job – but I was hoping at least one of Washington or Espada would be available after the Royals pick. Now they’ll have at least one of those two and Quataro. It’s always possible Dusty steps down and Espada takes his place, but if that were a done deal, you’d think the team would’ve told him by now and he wouldn’t be doing these interviews.

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    • utah cornelius

      3 years ago

      hyrax: I would guess that the answer to the question why haven’t they told Espada that they want him to be the manager (assuming that that’s what they want) is that they don’t want ANYTHING like an impending managerial change to distract Dusty, the coaching staff and the team from the World Series. Just my guess.

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  53. Interim GM

    3 years ago

    It’s a way to get your foot in the door managing but I can’t believe anyone wants this gig? Right when you’re ready to compete they take it all away.

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