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Clayton Kershaw Undergoes Shoulder Surgery; Hoping For Summer Return

By Darragh McDonald | November 3, 2023 at 10:59pm CDT

Left-hander Clayton Kershaw announced on Instagram that he underwent a surgical procedure this morning to repair the gleno-humeral ligaments and capsule of his left shoulder. He says that he is “hopeful to return to play at some point next summer.”

Kershaw, 35, had a strange campaign in 2023. He had made 16 starts through the end of June with typically strong results, holding an ERA of 2.55 at that time. He was placed on the injured list in early July due to some shoulder soreness. It didn’t seem especially concerning at that time, with the hope seeming to be that the All-Star break would allow him to miss just one or two turns through the rotation.

However, a couple of weeks later, there seemed to be some confusion around the issue. He underwent an MRI in the middle of July and wasn’t activated from the IL, although he wasn’t in any pain. “I feel completely fine. The shoulder feels good,” Kershaw said at the time. “I’ve just been told it has to rest. It’s a weird deal. I’ve never had anything like it, to the point where, like I’m gonna go play catch today and throw it as hard as I can, and they say it needs to rest. It’s just weird, honestly. I don’t know what to make of it. But I’m just gonna have to listen to [doctors].”

He was eventually activated in early August, with more confusion to come. His results continued to be strong, as he posted an ERA of 2.23 in his final eight starts of the year. But he was clearly working with diminished stuff. While he averaged above 91 MPH on his fastball prior to that IL stint, it was down to 90.2 MPH in August and 88.6 MPH in September. His slider also lost a few ticks as the season wore on. Although he was able to continue pitching well in the regular season, the wheels finally came off in the playoffs. Kershaw was lit up in Game 1 of the NLDS against the Diamondbacks, allowing six earned runs while only recording one out.

It seems Kershaw finally got some answers from the medical community and went under the knife today. While solving the mystery around his ailment provides some clarity, it seems there’s plenty of uncertainty ahead. This appears to be the first time the phrase “gleno-humeral” has appeared on the pages of MLBTR, suggesting this isn’t a particularly common procedure to be working back from. Kershaw has also had plenty of other ailments in the recent parts of his career. His 131 2/3 innings pitched in 2023 were the most he’s logged since 2019, spending time on the IL in recent years due to back stiffness, left elbow inflammation, left forearm discomfort, right SI joint inflammation, low back pain and the recent shoulder soreness.

Even without the health issues, Kershaw has gone into the past two offseasons with an uncertain path forward. It was seen by many that he was deciding between returning to the Dodgers, joining his hometown Rangers or retiring. In both cases, he returned to the Dodgers on a one-year deal, with a $17MM salary in 2022 and $20MM this past year. Last month, he again expressed uncertainty about his future going into free agency once more.

The Dodgers opted against issuing Kershaw a qualifying offer in those two years, though he would have deserved one based on his performance. As a sign of respect to the long-tenured player, they afforded him the freedom to take his time making a decision, whereas issuing a QO would have required Kershaw accept or decline within a few days of receiving it. They were presumably planning the same course of action this winter but this surgery would seemingly take the QO off the table even if they were considering it.

More information will likely trickle out over the winter, but the fact that Kershaw is “hopeful” of returning to play in the summer suggests that it’s not a guarantee. Perhaps he will spend some time rehabbing and trying to get healthy before signing a new contract, though that’s entirely speculative.

For the Dodgers, they likely have to proceed under the assumption that they can’t count on Kershaw, though president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman previously stated they would welcome him back. Beyond the fact that he’s not officially on the team anymore, it’s not certain he will be able to rejoin them even if he were willing to do so. In addition to Kershaw, Julio Urías and Lance Lynn are now free agents, with the club declining an option on the latter today. Tony Gonsolin could miss all of 2024 due to Tommy John surgery, while Dustin May’s flexor tendon surgery should keep him out for at least the first half of 2024.

That leaves the Dodgers’ on-paper rotation with Walker Buehler, who missed all of 2023 recovering from his own TJS, in the top spot. He is followed by guys with very limited experience, such as Bobby Miller, Ryan Pepiot, Michael Grove, Emmet Sheehan and Gavin Stone. There’s also Ryan Yarbrough, though he might wind up non-tendered, the same way the Rays cut him loose a year ago.

Though the Kershaw news may complicate things, the Dodgers do have plenty of money to work with and figure to be active in all levels of free agency. The top of the market features names like Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Blake Snell, Aaron Nola and Jordan Montgomery, though there are plenty of other intriguing names from Sonny Gray to Lucas Giolito and Jack Flaherty and many more.

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  1. Tom Price

    2 years ago

    He should be retiring.

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    • Sunday Lasagna

      2 years ago

      Kersh is still one of the better pitchers in the game. 3.7WAR 2.46 ERA for the season The guy more than likely got on a few Cy Young ballots. Any team would want him, and it’s awesome he will be back in a Dodger uniform in the 2nd half of 24

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      • Hemlock

        2 years ago

        > awesome he will be back in a
        > Dodger uniform in the 2nd half of 24

        Huh? Not under contract for 2024 yet.

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        • Sunday Lasagna

          2 years ago

          Oh stop Hemlock, he’s not going anywhere but LA and Friedman has been as transparent as can be that he will be welcomed back

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        • Hemlock

          2 years ago

          Umm..
          Of course the LAD would welcome him back.
          All those nice happy thoughts aside, back in reality, he’s not signed for 2024. The end. Hope he comes back. One team and all. Fairytales, magic puppydogs and kittycats, and everybody gets a happy ending to their story. It doesn’t always work out that way so hey don’t assume anything.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          But considering how few pitchers make it back from shoulder capsule surgery, there’s a good chance he’s done anyway.

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      • filihok

        2 years ago

        WW

        “Kersh is still one of the better pitchers in the game. 3.7WAR 2.46 ERA for the season ”

        That ERA, as ERA often is, is misleading. His FIP, xFIP and xERA were all between 3.5 and 4ish

        Still a solid pitcher and I hope he comes back to LA

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        • toycannon

          2 years ago

          WAR, huh, yeah
          What is it good for?
          Absolutely nothing
          Say it again

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        • Sunday Lasagna

          2 years ago

          ToyCanon, WAR and many other advanced stats have been good for one thing they show that Jimmy Wynn, Reggie Smith, Ron Cey among others were all more valuable than Mr Overrated Steve Garvey.

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        • leftykoufax

          2 years ago

          They were all good ballplayers without looking at any stats of these guys.

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        • leftykoufax

          2 years ago

          I saw the Toy Cannon hit a blast in the 1974 WS, little strong man had that long swing.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          I saw him play 3B for the Yankees against the Mets in the 1977 Mayor’s Trophy game.

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        • gbs42

          2 years ago

          toycannon, thanks for the throwback to 2005

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        • carlos15

          2 years ago

          ERA is misleading unless of course you want to know how many runs the person gives up on average. It’s great for that. ERA is a reliable stat. Someone with a consistently mid 2’s ERA is awesome. It’s more reliable than a weighted stat created by nerds. It’s not a perfect stat but at least it’s methodology is sound and straightforward.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          c15

          “ERA is misleading unless of course you want to know how many runs the person gives up on average. It’s great for that. ERA is a reliable stat. Someone with a consistently mid 2’s ERA is awesome. It’s more reliable than a weighted stat created by nerds. It’s not a perfect stat but at least it’s methodology is sound and straightforward.”

          It’s methodology is horribly flawed, of course. Pitchers don’t give up runs, teams give up runs.

          If Kershaw had pitched his whole career with a bunch of MLBTR commenters as his defense, his ERA would suck. Not because he was any different, but because we wouldn’t make any plays behind him.

          How does ERA tell you anything about Kershaw, then?

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Fortunately he is playing with professional athletes and even the ones we say suck are 100x better than most of us. ERA might not be telling over a short sample size but no one has ever lucked into a career low ERA and consistently low ERA is a very good indicator of how good a player is.

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      • Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

        2 years ago

        Assuming he’ll be able to pitch next season….

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        At one strikeout per inning, Kershaw needs about a dozen games at 5 innings each to surpass 3,000 career strikeouts.

        A dozen games is probably enough to get him warmed up for the post-season where he has a 0.500 record rather than his superlative regular season numbers.

        Either way, retirement or a partial season with the Dodgers, he is a first ballot Hall of Famer, maybe unanimous, and along with Max and Justin, the best of his generation.

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    • unpaidobserver

      2 years ago

      He could pull a Shaq and just play half the season until his arm literally falls off his body.

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    • LordD99

      2 years ago

      Why?

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    • LordD99

      2 years ago

      The takes fans have when players have injuries or require surgery border on the comical.

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    • tangerinepony

      2 years ago

      Why should he retire when he can probably get 10 mil next year? He’d be an idiot to retire

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      • Blue Baron

        2 years ago

        Because a study by the National Institutes of Health found that only about 38% of elite pitchers make it back from shoulder capsule surgery.

        It may not be his choice to make.

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    • User 401527550

      2 years ago

      He’s only 35. No way should he retire.

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    • tangerinepony

      2 years ago

      Tom Price…. That’s a very very dumb statement to make. He’s only 35 and some team is willing to pay him 8-10 Mil I’m guessing. If your in his situation would you retire then? Didn’t think so

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  2. James Midway

    2 years ago

    Going through surgery to come back at his age? I don’t know. I think he is already a HOF guy so any need to get surgery and put more strain on the arm is something I don’t understand. I get players live playing and getting most to quit (especially someone with his success) can be tough, but does he need to come back? I think he could call it a day on a successful HOF career and be happy.

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    • Netflix&RichHill

      2 years ago

      He’s coming back to get to 3000 Ks. There is a short list of lefties who have reached that mark. Let him come back to chase that bit of history. He’s earned it.

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      • LATrolleyDodger

        2 years ago

        Yes, but please for the love of God can the rotation be healthy enough where this man doesn’t start in the playoffs?

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          Kershaw is 13-13 in the post-season. I would trust him over most number three starters in post-season even now. Of course there are guys like MadBum and Stras who have carried teams in postseason without Kershaw’s HOF regular season numbers. But his regular season greatness is what make his average stats in postseason stand out.

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    • NickTheDev

      2 years ago

      Maybe its bad enough that he would have discomfort even just in regular every day life? Sometimes they still need to get fixed even to live without the pain.

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    • fred-3

      2 years ago

      He’s not old, though. He has a lot of miles on his arm, but he’s only in his mid 30s.

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      • Hemlock

        2 years ago

        > He has a lot of miles on his arm

        No wonder he needs surgery. He should walk using his legs or take an Uber.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        2 years ago

        “Keep going, kid! Plenty of room in our 40($MM)/40 club.” – Max and JV

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    • User 401527550

      2 years ago

      When did 35 become old?

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      • good vibes only

        2 years ago

        Since the beginning of time 35 has been old

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          At least it is in baseball

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  3. Gwynning

    2 years ago

    Well wishes Kersh… come back strong so we can beat ya at your best!

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      Reminds me of how Clemens at the end of his career would take his time to re-sign and would start his season in May or June. Hopefully he comes back healthy enough to get those 3000 strikeouts though!

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      • toycannon

        2 years ago

        That was to get the winter PEDs out of his system.

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      • Roll

        2 years ago

        thank you acoss

        i was trying to think of which big pitcher it was that started late. I kept thinking pedro for some reason.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        2 years ago

        Clemens made a spectacle out of it talking to the media. Kershaw: I’ll be back when I’m back.

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    • ElysianPark

      2 years ago

      Have some respect for a future HOFer. How many does your team have?
      I wouldn’t make jokes, with your team’s troubles.
      Stay classy, San Diego.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        2 years ago

        It sounded pretty classy to me, Ron. But since you asked, probably Machado if he gets to 500 HRs and Soto if he maintains pace.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Tatia, Hader and Boegarts all have decent shots too.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Machado, Bogaerts, Soto. Possibly Tatis as well.

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      • acoss13

        2 years ago

        San Diego Hall of Famer? Hmmm…

        Just some guy that spent his entire career and was an absolutely cool dude.
        Tony Gywnn.

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      • Brew88

        2 years ago

        @Elysian. What a clown for dissing Gwynning there, he was merely wishing Kersh well.

        HOF in Pads uni: Gwynn, Hoffman, Winfield
        hOFers who were Pads: Rickie H, Ozzie Smith, Rollie F, Goose G, Greg Maddux, Willie McCovey, Fred McGriff, Gaylord Perry, Roberto Alomar, Mike Piazza.

        Tatis gets in

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        Elysian

        You probably Gwynning too quick, his post seemed fine.

        I am pretty neutral here my favorite players are Fernando Valenzuela, Clayton Kershaw, Tony Gwynn and Fernando Tatis (yes, his cheating is shameful, but he’s an electric kid) and pretty much every Cub.

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  4. Pads Fans

    2 years ago

    Oh! That is huge news. Hoping he comes back with the Dodgers.

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  5. RyanD44

    2 years ago

    In my head, it seems like Kershaw is always injured and can’t stay on the field. However, he’s still averaged 25 starts dating back to 2018 (not counting 2020). Considering those 25 starts/year have still yielded a sub 3 ERA. That’s pretty impressive.

    I know he’s not the Kershaw of his early to mid 20’s, but he’s still out there most of the time. I think he’s up there with Pedro, Clemens, Maddux as the best of this crazy hitting era (and of all-time)

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    • unpaidobserver

      2 years ago

      Even Kershaw at his peak was not on the level of any of those guys at their peakiest, though he was as good for as long for sho.

      Also, Clemens cheated.

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      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        That is very, VERY debatable

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        • JCL10

          2 years ago

          How is either of those points debateable?

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Kershaw has better numbers than all of them.

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      • amk1920

        2 years ago

        Kershaw’s peak was 2010-16. He was the best pitcher in modern history for that stretch. Not even debatable

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        • ellisburks

          2 years ago

          “Best pitcher in modern history.” Pedro Martinez and his peak of 97-2003 of 213 ERA+, 118-36 w/l, 2.20 ERA,2bb/9 and 11.3k/9 in the steroid era is on line one for you.

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        • differentbears

          2 years ago

          Kershaw’s peak was 10 years, and included 2017.

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      • Pads Fans

        2 years ago

        Outside of 2020, in the expansion era no pitcher has had an ERA+ over 240 except Maddux and Martinez and each of them did it twice.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Any stat with a plus on it is a made up stat by some random people we don’t even know how qualified they are.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          ALL stats are made up. If you don’t know how qualified they are that tells us you are not really a baseball fan. Maybe start by figuring out who developed those stats.

          The + means that its adjusted for park, season, and league. Can’t discuss one era of baseball vs another or one home park vs another without knowing making those adjustments.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          No stats aren’t all made up. They are Math. Adjusting for era parks and season is just fantasy projections on what could have been. The only thing that matters is what actually happened between the lines. True baseball fans know this.

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      • good vibes only

        2 years ago

        I was like “no way” when I read this but looking at the numbers, I agree. Even Kershaw’s peak years aren’t as good as all 3. He comps best with Pedro, but Clemons and Maddux careers and peaks are a step up. Godshaw is still a first ballot HOF, all the same.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          7 year peak

          Kershaw – 49.7 WAR/2.10 ERA/173 ERA+/Best season – 197 ERA+
          Maddux – 56.3 WAR/2.15 ERA/190 ERA+/Best season – 271 ERA+
          Martinez – 58.2 WAR/2.20 ERA/213 ERA+/Best season – 291 ERA+

          Pedro was 23% better than Maddux and 40% better than Kershaw over their 7 year peaks. For a single season Martinez was arguably the best pitcher in the modern era.

          IF 2023 is Kershaw’s final season. all three finished their careers as unquestioned, 1st ballot HOF.

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        • Brew88

          2 years ago

          Randy Johnson 99-05 had a WAR of 53, but missed most of 2003

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          Maddux, Clemens*, Martinez, Randy Johnson, Kershaw, Verlander, Scherzer – all first ballot hall of gamers

          The best that I have seen in person Johnson, Maddux and Kershaw

          I did see Carlton, Seaver and Ryan, but that’s a different generation to me

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          He was 40% better then Kershaw but gave up less runs? Do you not see how dishonest these stats with projections are? Any stat with a plus on it is fun to look at but doesn’t mean anything? They are just projections.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          The Big Unit was insanely dominant. Absolutely loved watching him pitch. Could not even imagine being a LHB and stepping in the box against him.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          That you do not understand that they pitched in a different era is apparent. Maybe start by learning what the stats MEAN.

          Pedro and Maddux pitched in the steroid era. In 1995 the average ERA for a starting pitcher was 4.55. In 2000 the average ERA for a starting pitcher was 4.87. To put up a 1.56 ERA in 1995 like Maddux did or a 1.74 ERA in 2000 like Martinez did meant more than putting up a 1.77 in 2014 when the average ERA for a starter in MLB was 3.82.

          That you don’t understand things like that makes your opinion suspect at best and I am trying to be nice.

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      • baseballhistory

        2 years ago

        Kershaw was better than Maddux when they were both at their peak.

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        • stevewpants

          2 years ago

          Taking nothing away from Maddux, definitely agreeing that Kershaw had better peak, those on here old enough to have watched a lot of 90s Braves games can attest that Maddux got more pitches called for strikes off the outside corner than anyone else I’ve ever seen.

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        • RyanD44

          2 years ago

          Yea, I hate trying to compare eras, but it is a real thing that a large part of Maddux’s success was that the strike zone was about twice as large as it is today.

          I went back and watched a Cubs-Braves game from 1998, and it was insane how many strikes were called 2-3 inches off the plate, and no one argued. It was just how the game was.

          And yes, I know steroids were a significant factor in that era, but who is to say that Maddux or Pedro didn’t use them? Taking steroids doesn’t necessarily mean someone is jacked. Some help with recovery, adderall is a PED, and that has very little to do with physique, but can help someone significantly in both training and focus.

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        • unpaidobserver

          2 years ago

          Kershaw got a lot of gift calls too. This is yhe ultimeate hair split.

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        • unpaidobserver

          2 years ago

          Maddux didnt throw that hard and Pedro had an abbreviated peak.

          We thought it was unreal how Clemens was able to pitch like he did as late as he did. As it turned out, it was.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          That’s because he was the most accurate pitcher in baseball history. When you can get a ball moving and hit your spot 95% of the time why wouldn’t you pitch six inches off the plate.

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        • RyanD44

          2 years ago

          Bc if it’s not a strike, it’s not a strike. We need a concrete zone, not something that is so subjective.

          The zone is specifically defined, yet we have games decided by inconsistency and how well the umpires see an invisible zone.

          Maddux would not be as good of a pitcher if he pitched today.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          I’ll say that Maddux didn’t use steroids, his body aged naturally during his career

          I only saw Pedro in the NL

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        • 14thor

          2 years ago

          1997 NLCS game 5 strike zone was as big as a Cadillac.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          The facts say otherwise and its not particularly close. Both best individual season and best 7 year peak. Martinez was better than both Maddux and Kershaw. All of them were substantially better than any other pitchers in their era. All are no question HOF pitchers.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Maddux had the best control of any pitcher I have ever seen. In 2007 when he was with the Padres, while they were warming up in the bullpen before a start against the Reds I watched the bullpen catcher put a blindfold on and hold out his glove and Maddux put the pitch right in the glove. Maddux was 41 at the time. Maddux went on to pitch 9 innings giving up just a single run in that game.

          Part of the reason Maddux got calls was that his control was so pinpoint.

          None of that changes the fact that Maddux was much better than Kershaw at their peak.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          7 years is 7 years. Pedro was the best. Perhaps the best in the modern era.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Ryan is on crack. Maddux was insanely talented and would be just as good today. At age 41 he threw 198 innings with a better than league average ERA. That is not so long ago. Among starting pitchers in 2023, not one had a lower HH% than Maddux did in that 2007 season. At age 41.

          I agree that we need automated ball and strike calling, but that would not have hindered Maddux. His had control and movement on his pitches that would play today. He had 5 pitches that were considered plus pitches in his day. FIVE.

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      • Zerbs63

        2 years ago

        You are right Kershaw was better than them at his peak, not debatable.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Absolutely debatable. The facts say otherwise. Pedro was the best of those 3 without question. Maddux was a close 2nd. Kershaw is far behind both.

          Does that mean Kershaw is not an all time great? No, because he is and a 1st ballot HOF also. Was he a better pitcher than either of those two? Not even close.

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  6. christopher8002

    2 years ago

    So with this and the unsurprising Lynn news, how many starting pitchers do the Dodgers need to add this winter? Four?! (that could include sufficient rotation depth, too)

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    • CardsFan57

      2 years ago

      The Dodgers will likely do what they always do sign a boring veteran or two then promote a few youngsters and win the division.

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      • acoss13

        2 years ago

        I wonder if Mo will kick the tires on Lynn…

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        • Pete'sView

          2 years ago

          Lynn is a batting practice pitcher.

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        • gbs42

          2 years ago

          acoss13, please no Lynn for Mo.

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        • acoss13

          2 years ago

          gbs42

          Sorry I was just joking how Mo can say he’s prioritizing something and then immediately pivot to the bargain bin lol

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        • CardsFan57

          2 years ago

          I hope MO doesn’t look at Lynn.

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        2 years ago

        For a Cards fan, you understand the Dodgers very well! They also like Japanese hurlers, Nomo had some nice years, Yamamoto could do the same.

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        • LATrolleyDodger

          2 years ago

          Yes! Hoping for this

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        Cards fan

        Not this year, either Ohtani or Yamamoto or both will be Dodgers

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        • CardsFan57

          2 years ago

          I should have mentioned that the Dodgers will also sign Ohtani. I didn’t because he won’t affect the pitching this year.

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    • Balk

      2 years ago

      Article on mlb says they are the favorite to land Ohtani. They’ll just have to wait a year more for some of that pitching though. As a Giants fan I expect him to sign somewhere else, although we can always wish right? Hahaha…also read that he’s intrigued by the Red Sox…didn’t know they were in the bidding.

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      • Pete'sView

        2 years ago

        Yamamoto more important than Ohtani to the Giants.

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        • Balk

          2 years ago

          I think they’re all important. But all I know is they need to land two of the top free agents

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  7. thronson6

    2 years ago

    Dodgers handled injuries poorly this year in my opinion. I know surgery is his choice but if they would’ve pushed for it and he would’ve done it when everyone knew he wasn’t right he could’ve been ready for the start of the season. Gotta give him credit for closing out the season and still attempting to pitch in the playoffs but that sucks. I wonder if he signs with the Rangers or stays with the Dodgers. I have a gut feeling he goes with the Rangers and the Dodgers either trade for a starter or sign someone like Yamamoto or both.

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    • NickTheDev

      2 years ago

      Well they now need FOUR starters… so I think they are certainly going to have to sign a few.

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        2 years ago

        Miller, Buehler and Sheehan will all be in the rotation, they will add 2, not 4.

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        • NickTheDev

          2 years ago

          Adding 2 is not enough… and you need more than 5… Buehler isn’t ready to go and Sheehan is not ready for a full time rotation spot.. Have you not seen what happens to the Dodgers when they have less than 8 starters?

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        • Sunday Lasagna

          2 years ago

          Buehler has already been through TJS, he and his docs know where he is and yes, ready for 2024.

          Sheehan was a different pitcher after his return from the minors, yes he will be in the rotation.

          You may not like those yeses but come April you will see those yeses.

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    • Pete'sView

      2 years ago

      thronson6 — Your “gut feeling” goes in contradiction to everything we know about Kershaw. He will retire as a lifetime Dodger.

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    • Deleted Userr

      2 years ago

      He’s not signing with Rangers! Deal with it!

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      • LATrolleyDodger

        2 years ago

        The legendary Harambe has spoken

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      • gbs42

        2 years ago

        He *could* sign with the Rangers. 😉

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        • Deleted Userr

          2 years ago

          And Margot Robbie *could* sleep with me.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          Legendary

          Only if Kevin Acee publishes a rumor that it might happen.

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        • Brew’88

          2 years ago

          but the resulting blonde-haired little harambe ape-like offspring “would” be hideous.

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    • central scrutinizer

      2 years ago

      @thronson6 I agree that Kershaw definitely noticed what the Rangers are building after their outstanding season. The Rangers also seem to have a very unified clubhouse, 1st class field manager, a GM/front office willing to take some chances, and an owner willing to spend. Not to mention a new ballpark and an energized fan base. If he decides to play in 2024 and go for the 3000 K’s, he will probably return to the Dodgers, but the Rangers never looked so good. Plus he lives in the Dallas metroplex.

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      • Deleted Userr

        2 years ago

        lol

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  8. filihok

    2 years ago

    Oof

    Doesn’t sound great

    Hopefully he can rejoin the Dodger rotation sometime next season and for the playoffs,

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  9. Slider_withcheese

    2 years ago

    Announced on IG for clout and to gain followers. Oldest trick in the book next to a bulldog in a costume, and a blonde girl wearing a sundress with a big hat.

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  10. amk1920

    2 years ago

    The Dodgers paid Bauer 20 million to pitch in Japan while a franchise icon’s shoulder was dying because there was no other option. Pathetic move by ownership leaving Kershaw out to dry. No offseason SP help and no in-season help outside of Lance “HR” Lynn

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    • NickTheDev

      2 years ago

      It certainly felt like Andrew should have gotten his wallet out and gotten them some more help at the deadline!

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      • filihok

        2 years ago

        NTD

        “It certainly felt like Andrew should have gotten his wallet out and gotten them some more help at the deadline!”

        Pitching wasn’t the problem in the playoffs

        Also, don’t get confused, it’s not Andrew’s wallet

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        • padrepapi

          2 years ago

          filihok…

          “pitching wasn’t the problem in the playoffs”

          Really???

          Here is the combined line the Dodgers got from there three starters in the playoffs:

          4.2 IP, 16H, 13R, 5HR, 3BB, 2k

          That might be the worst pitching performance from a starting rotation in the history of the playoffs! 14 outs while giving up 13 runs… hard to do any worse!

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      • Pads Fans

        2 years ago

        The Dodgers pitching gave up 19 runs in 3 games in the playoffs. That seemed to be their biggest issue. Having a healthy Kershaw might have helped. A trade for a better starter than Lynn certainly would have helped.

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      You clearly don’t get it if you don’t understand why they cut Bauer loose.

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      • Yanks4life22

        2 years ago

        Honestly the Dodgers, MLB and the media should be ashamed of themselves for how they portrayed Bauer after the allegations came out. I’m ashamed of myself for being so quick to paint him as a villain without doing my homework. Just goes to show that it’s very hard to find the truth these days.

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        • LATrolleyDodger

          2 years ago

          He wasn’t convicted, that’s true, but the fact is is that he is a guy who gets his rocks off by giving people black eyes (consensual or not). Hard to root for someone who does that. He’s still playing baseball, his life didn’t end because of it.

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        • foppert1

          2 years ago

          You need to remember how Bauer portrayed MLB. He started that game.

          In regards to the allegations that gave MLB the opening, all you had to do was believe the man. Not very hard at all. The truth wasn’t hidden.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Truth.

          Bauer admitted to beating the woman in question. So did his attorney. Of that there is no question. We know both of those to be facts. He claimed it was consensual and he said, she said cases are rarely brought to court.

          MLB found Bauer guilty of violating their rules against domestic violence.

          An arbitration panel in Bauer’s appeal hearing found him guilty of violating MLB rules against domestic violence.

          Bauer filed 3 cases for defamation. One went to court. Bauer lost.

          He dropped the other two including the one against the woman who he admitted he beat immediately after he was called to testify in both.

          Those are the facts. That is the truth. If you don’t know those facts, maybe you should be ashamed for trying to defend him.

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        • Zerbs63

          2 years ago

          Bauer didn’t do any of that. Watch the video that was taken the morning after the alleged abuse. The girl isn’t injured at all. She was a total con artist trying to extort millions from Bauer and they have the text messages to her friends to prove it. She lost all her civil lawsuits, and no criminal charges. Bauer should sue MLB for the millions he lost while he was suspended.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          Zerba

          Muted

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        • Deleted Userrrr

          2 years ago

          Didn’t you say LH was going to re-file her lawsuit against Bauer because he violated the terms of the settlement?

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          I posted the FACTS. Truth. That you are even trying to defend Bauer is all I need to know about you and your lack of character. Goodbye.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          I said that her lawyer said they might and I could see them doing so. Instead she got $300k.

          What I know for sure is that Bauer refused to testify in the defamation case against her and dropped the case.

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        • Deleted Userrrr

          2 years ago

          No you said that Freedman said that they WOULD re-file the case, even though it was dismissed with prejudice which means they legally can’t. And then when asked for a link you gave a link to something unrelated.

          He can’t be forced to testify. Nor can the other side comment on his refusal to testify if he chooses not to.

          The $300k did not come from Bauer or anyone on his behalf.

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        • Deleted Userrrr

          2 years ago

          I ask because the case being re-filed would be interesting if it were in fact true but the only place I’ve heard that is from you.

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      • amk1920

        2 years ago

        Because people with blue check marks on twitter would get mad. Nobody is boycotting games and certainly not complaining when you get a good playoff performance instead of 6 runs before you even go up to bat

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  11. LATrolleyDodger

    2 years ago

    Looks like he plans on another season! I hope he rehabs well and focuses on getting his body back in shape. Kersh has been letting himself go (not as bad as Lynn). Changing up the diet and shedding some pounds could help him

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    • Slider_withcheese

      2 years ago

      So would stepping in a Time Machine and setting the year back 5

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      • LATrolleyDodger

        2 years ago

        Changing it up wouldn’t hurt. I’m not expecting him to be yoked or massive, just make movement easier and less taxing.

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        • Slider_withcheese

          2 years ago

          Agree. With the unlimited resources he has available to him there should be zero reason not to come into next season in shape.

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  12. KennyF’nPowers

    2 years ago

    Maybe he goes back home to Texas to fill in for Scherzer when he breaks down mid season.

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  13. Butter Biscuits

    2 years ago

    Don’t fall for it Friedman

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    • PutPeteinthehall

      2 years ago

      Have to agree. It’s time to shake hands and part ways. Urias, Bauer, and now Kershaw. Parting ways isn’t always pretty but at least they won’t have to pay him and can use the money to sign someone that can take the ball in the playoffs.

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  14. RyÅnWKrol

    2 years ago

    Is he going to play out the rest of his career like Pedro?

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  15. Deleted Userr

    2 years ago

    Still pushing the ridiculous “Kershaw to Rangers” narrative I see.

    And no, it doesn’t matter if “ThEy JuSt WoN tHe WoRlD sErIeS !”

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  16. leftykoufax

    2 years ago

    He wants another WS ring like I want another slice of pizza, all the power to him.

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  17. Datashark

    2 years ago

    Its interesting last year he could have joined the Rangers and got a WS Ring.

    I think this freeagent year might be different with that whole nun episode – left him with a bad taste, that he will stay in Texas and go to Rangers (hometown team) -He has a good relationship with Bochy.

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    • THEY LIVE!!!

      2 years ago

      The “whole nun episode” was quite disturbing.

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    • Deleted Userr

      2 years ago

      lol

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      • Deleted Userr

        2 years ago

        Already offered. If Kershaw signs with the Rangers I’ll renounce everything and delete my account. But if he doesn’t this site and its commenters need to stop saying “Player x will sign with team y because he’s from there/went to college there” FOREVER.

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  18. Blue Baron

    2 years ago

    He’s probably done.

    Johan Santana had the same surgery and never pitched again. He tried but couldn’t do it.

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      I think he’s coming back just to get 3000 strikeouts and then he’s out, which makes sense for him to just pitch 2-3 months instead of a whole season.

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      • Blue Baron

        2 years ago

        If he can still pitch at the MLB level after the surgery. I wouldn’t bet on it.

        The National Institutes of Health did a study of 287 elite pitchers with an average age of 27 who had shoulder capsule surgery.

        Only 63, or 22%, returned to pitching, and not at the same level as before surgery.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          I didn’t realize it was that low. To be honest I didn’t believe that so I looked it up and you are correct. Wow!

          Hoping for the best for Kershaw.

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  19. Monkey’s Uncle

    2 years ago

    This article left me feeling very gleno-humeral.

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  20. DickDollars

    2 years ago

    Gleno-humeral surgery is no joke.

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  21. HalosHeavenJJ

    2 years ago

    You know a guy just absolutely loves the game when he’s accomplished practically everything you can accomplish and made enough money for several lifetimes and still wants to come back after a pretty serious surgery (at least from a sports perspective).

    At this point the only question is when Kershaw starts the countdown to Cooperstown.

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      If he’s like most pitchers who undergo shoulder capsule surgery, he’s done and the clock starts now.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        2 years ago

        Agreed.

        Definitely not the way he wanted to go out but so few athletes end on a high note. These guys compete until there’s nothing left.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          Someone once said that everyone gets told they can’t play anymore.

          Most of us experience that as kids or young adults. Guys who play professionally experience it much later in life, but it still happens.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        Kershaw is already an outlier. I would not bet my money either way on this.

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  22. Shadow_Banned

    2 years ago

    I’d rather have Nathan Eovaldi numbers. Bad regular season exceptional post season numbers than Clayton Kershaw numbers. I’ve been saying it

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      I suspect you would like to have any major leaguer’s numbers.

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    • filihok

      2 years ago

      RE: Shadow

      Love it when someone who’s like a night manager at Walmart, or whatever, opines on the careers of the most successful athletes in the world.

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      • Shadow_Banned

        2 years ago

        I suspect your teams middle of the pack or bottom feeding. I’ve been blessed to watch non stop Dodger dominance to understand the differing levels of success. You can have regular season success or post season. Kike Hernandez, Joc Peterson all pedestrian performers until you the calendar turns to October. Those are the dudes I like

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          SB

          “I suspect your teams middle of the pack or bottom feeding.”

          We’ve identified the problem immediately – you think that you know more than you do and think that your opinion based on no evidence has some value.

          There’s no reason to think that, given the small samples involved, we can see who’s a clutch post season performed and who’s just having a bad couple of games.

          There are like 25 Wednesday games a season, so an everyday player would get around 100 PA’s a season on Wednesdays. Without doubt, there would be some clutch Wednesday performers and some Wednesday chokers. But no one would say that that was because of something mental.

          The exact same thing, undoubtedly happens in October.

          Sure, some players feel the pressure more than others. No doubt

          But we can’t know how that pressure impacts them just by looking at the numbers. There’s too much noise.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          2 years ago

          It’s easy for me to see, Chris Taylor, Kike, Joc, Seager and Eovaldi all produce in the playoffs it’s as simple as that and all I ask from my team is to go after those guys.

          Die hard Kershaw fan here but he got dismantled these playoffs why would I expect that to change when faces teams like the Astros, Rangers, D-bags?

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          SB

          Yes. It’s easy to see what’s happened in the past. Almost everyone can do it.

          It’s harder to see what will happen in the future

          Seeing what will happen in the future is harder than just looking at part of what happened in the past.

          You’re concluding that a coin that came up heads 50% of the time in 1000 flips is going to come up tails because it came up tails twice in a row

          That makes no sense

          Yes. People are different than coins. But, if a coin can be clutch or choke then we have to assume that a person can also do that without it being the result of their mental character.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          2 years ago

          I understand what you’re saying it’s harder to predict the future. I think it’s easier to future playoff performance by the size of those guys balls. There’s an intangible element that I’m speaking of that seems to be going over your head.

          There’s a reason why Chris Taylor, Kike, Hernandez, and October Nathan Eovaldi suddenly have great postseason numbers, outings, or at bats it’s because they are not afraid of the big moment they relish it

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          SB

          I have no doubt there is a mental element

          I don’t think you (or any of us that haven’t met these players or done biometrics can know what’s going on in their heads.

          And I think it’s pretty arrogant and ignorant you think you can

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          @Shadow_Banned: How does the Dodgers’ performance make you more knowledgeable about baseball than anyone else?

          By the same token, how does any team’s performance make filihok less knowledgeable?

          You remind me of dumb, arrogant Yankees fans who believe that all of the team’s championships, many of which came before they were even born, somehow makes them superior human beings.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          2 years ago

          Because I’ve seen great Dodger teams and excellent Dodger teams. The excellent teams have talent and clutch hitting. 2017 Dodgers had like 50 come from behind wins and I just knew that team was special. 2021 Dodgers won even more games but they were missing that spark (Puig, Joc, Kike).

          So if you’re a Mets fan, you’re used to being disappointed so any chance you think they’re good it’s harder to asses how good they really are when they’ve been ass their entire existence.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          But I have watched many teams play in more than 15 different ballparks over the years, and I have learned about the game from personal contact with those intimately involved, including your friends Fred Claire and Tommy Lasorda.

          Being a fan of a team goes back to childhood and does not necessarily make anyone a one-dimensional or myopic observer of the game.

          To paraphrase Crash Davis in “Bull Durham,” you being a Dodgers fan doesn’t mean that you’re not as full of it as anyone else.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          You certainly don’t appear to know much of anything.

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        • filihok

          2 years ago

          SB

          “Because I’ve seen great Dodger teams and excellent Dodger teams. The excellent teams have talent and clutch hitting. 2017 Dodgers had like 50 come from behind wins and I just knew that team was special. 2021 Dodgers won even more games but they were missing that spark (Puig, Joc, Kike).”

          You’re almost certainly looking in retrospect.

          “So if you’re a Mets fan, you’re used to being disappointed so any chance you think they’re good it’s harder to asses how good they really are when they’ve been ass their entire existence.”

          Again. You’re just proving that your ability to read minds doesn’t exist.

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        • Blue Baron

          2 years ago

          I bet I’ve seen more games at Dodger Stadium (outstanding ballpark experience) and Anaheim Stadium than he’s seen at Citi Field, Shea Stadium, and old or new Yankee Stadium, and watched the Mets play on the road more than he has the Dodgers.

          I even ate Dodger Dogs in the Dodger Stadium press box once!

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          So you got banned on one account and then created another? Says volumes about you.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          2 years ago

          @Pads yes.
          The Mets, Soto, Machado, and Lindor were a hot topic this summer.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      I think most would choose Kershaw’s career over MadBum.

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  23. differentbears

    2 years ago

    I know the Dodgers are going year to year with Kershaw, but I wonder if this news might result in a 2024 contract for an amount that’s calculated off the estimated amount of starts, with a mutual option for 2025.

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  24. l9ydodger

    2 years ago

    What was it, 2 or 3 weeks ago Friedman said “there will be no players having surgery this year.”
    First Peralta, now Kershaw. Yeah, maybe neither player is “technically“ not signed right now but, the P.O.B.O. of the Dodgers doesn’t know the physical condition of his players? I have a feeling Friedman will go bargain hunting in the dumpster again, Flaherty, Giolito, Lugo instead of signing better pitchers such as Snell, Nola or Yamamoto. Jordan Montgomery would/should be better than Flaherty or Giolito. There’s also the trade route for someone like Corbin Burnes, Dylan Cease, Shane Bieber or someone from Seattle or Miami. The Dodgers have the money and prospects to dictate how the offseason moves. Let’s hope Kasten, Walter et/all don’t settle for “well, we’re drawing 3.8 million per year and making MONEY! Why change anything?”

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  25. leftcoaster

    2 years ago

    With all those pitcher injuries it’s truly amazing they were able to win the West.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      Leftcoaster

      “Win the West by 15 games”

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  26. greg1

    2 years ago

    Hope he makes his way back at some point in 2024. Not a Dodgers fan, but love Kershaw. Anytime he hits the mound, we’re getting the opportunity to watch one of the best ever to do it. Also love that he’s one of the last old school pitchers, doesn’t need to throw 98MPH with a 96MPH slider to get guys out. Screw all the FIP, FWAR, etc garbage, Hall of Fame pitchers are Hall of Fame pitchers.

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  27. holecamels35

    2 years ago

    Good numbers during the regular season but seems like a liability because you never know what point he will get hurt and if he will be available or effective during the playoffs when it matters most.

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    • filihok

      2 years ago

      hc

      Not sure I’ve seen a taek as hot as “Kershaw is a liability”

      Another brain rotted by hot taek culture and sports TV and radio

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