Cody Bellinger is back with the Cubs. Chicago officially announced his re-signing on a three-year deal that allows him to opt out after each of the first two seasons. The team has scheduled a press conference for Wednesday to welcome him back to the fold. Chicago cleared the necessary 40-man roster spot with this afternoon’s trade sending Bailey Horn back to the White Sox.
Bellinger, a client of the Boras Corporation, is reportedly guaranteed $80MM. The deal pays him $30MM for the upcoming season. He’ll have a $30MM salary for 2025 and be paid $20MM if he remains on the contract in 2026. The deal contains an approximate $26.67MM average annual value for luxury tax purposes.
Bellinger returns to the Cubs after signing a one-year deal with the club last winter and delivering an excellent platform campaign. In 556 trips to the plate, the 28-year-old slashed .307/.356/.525 with 26 home runs and 20 stolen bases while splitting time between center field and first base for Chicago. That performance earned Bellinger a Silver Slugger award and a top-10 finish in NL MVP voting and seemingly left him poised to cash in this winter with a major contract. MLBTR ranked Bellinger as the #2 free agent in this year’s class behind only two-way superstar Shohei Ohtani, predicting a 12-year, $264MM deal for the outfielder in our annual Top 50 MLB free agents list.
As Bellinger’s offseason dragged on, it became apparent a $200MM+ commitment would not be in the cards. In his recent Wednesday mailbag, MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes predicted a three-year, $90MM deal with a pair of opt-outs. While Bellinger entered the winter with plenty of big market clubs seemingly in the running for his services including the Giants, Yankees, and Blue Jays, each pivoted in other directions throughout the month of December: San Francisco landed KBO star Jung Hoo Lee to patrol center, Juan Soto was shipped to the Bronx to fill the left-handed void in their outfield mix, and the Blue Jays changed course after missing out on Shohei Ohtani to instead focus on smaller deals for players such as Kevin Kiermaier and Isiah Kiner-Falefa. That left Bellinger with few clear suitors outside of the incumbent Cubs, though his free agency continued into Spring Training as his camp held out for a long term deal while the Cubs and president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer remained steadfast in waiting out the market. Ultimately, Chicago was rewarded for its patience, as the club will retain Bellinger’s services for at least the 2024 campaign on a relatively low-cost deal similar to the three-year, $105MM deal fellow Boras Corporation client Carlos Correa signed with the Twins two offseasons ago.
A number of factors beyond his relatively small number of suitors likely contributed to Bellinger signing a short-term deal. Excellent as he was in 2023, the slugger struggled badly while contending with shoulder issues and a fractured fibula during the 2021 and ’22 seasons. Though he managed to take the field for 900 plate appearances across the two seasons, he hit a paltry .193/.256/.355 during that time, a far cry from the career .273/.364/.567 slash line he entered the 2021 season with that earned him Rookie of the Year and MVP honors in 2017 and 2019.
While Bellinger’s strong and healthy 2023 campaign certainly helped to assuage the concerns brought on by his dismal campaigns in the prior two seasons, a look at his advanced metrics reveals some cause for concern that the 28-year-old’s 2023 campaign may not be entirely sustainable. While Bellinger’s career-best batting average last season was supported by a career-low 15.6% strikeout rate, it was also propped up by a .319 BABIP that eclipsed his career .277 mark entering the 2023 season by more than 40 points.
That leap in good batted ball fortune came in spite of unusually low contact quality peripherals. Per Statcast, Bellinger’s average exit velocity, barrel rate, and Hard-Hit percentage were all well below average, landing in the 22nd, 27th, and 10th percentile respectively among qualified major leaguers. Taken together, those peripheral numbers left Bellinger with a roughly league average xwOBA of just .330 last year, 40 points below his excellent .370 wOBA. Between his pronounced struggles in recent seasons and the concerning peripherals underlying his 2023 return to form, it’s not a complete shock that Bellinger would land a short-term, opt-out heavy deal that preserves flexibility rather than a lengthy deal that maximizes guarantee.
Such a contract could set Bellinger up for a much more significant payday in the future. As noted by MLBTR’s Steve Adams in his recent look at the possibility of a short-term deal for Bellinger, the slugger is unusually young for a free agent and, as such, may be uniquely suited for a short-term arrangement. If Bellinger can maintain a similar level of production to his 2023 rebound, he’ll be a near lock to opt out of the remaining two years and $50MM on his deal and return to free agency, where he would be marketing his age-29 campaign and be unimpeded by the Qualifying Offer, which the Cubs extended to Bellinger this winter. Next year’s free agent class is also likely to benefit from additional certainty regarding the ongoing Diamond Sports bankruptcy, which has impacted the TV deals of some contenders such as the Rangers and Twins. Those clubs were joined in mostly standing pat by big spending clubs such as the Padres and Mets that faced exorbitant luxury tax bills last year and took this offseason as an opportunity to reset.
In the meantime, Bellinger will return to Chicago, where he immediately improves the club’s lineup and odds of contention in a crowded NL Central dramatically. Bellinger’s 134 wRC+ and .525 slugging led all Cubs hitters with at least 100 trips to the plate last year, while he ranked fourth in terms of on-base percentage. The slugger also provides a much-needed lefty bat to a lineup who complements righty hitters in the lineup such as Dansby Swanson, Seiya Suzuki, Christopher Morel, and Nico Hoerner. In addition to providing the club’s lineup with potentially impactful offense, Bellinger’s versatility offers the Cubs flexibility as they look to incorporate their bevy young hitters into the big league lineup on a regular basis.
Infielder Michael Busch is likely to enter the season as the club’s regular first baseman after the club acquired him from the Dodgers in a deal last month, leaving Bellinger to begin the season as the club’s everyday option in center field. With that being said, top prospect Pete Crow-Armstrong lurks after making his big league debut last September and sports 80-grade defense in center field. The club’s reunion with Bellinger takes pressure off Crow-Armstrong, who went hitless in 19 plate appearances during his cup of coffee last fall, to immediately produce at the big league level and allows the Cubs to continue his development at Triple-A to open the year.
Should Crow-Armstrong prove himself ready to take on the everyday job in center sometime this season, Bellinger could shift to an outfield corner, first base, or even DH depending on the health and production of the rest of the lineup. One possibility for the Cubs would be either Busch or Morel establishing themselves as a capable defender at third base, allowing the other to handle DH duties. In that case, Bellinger would be able to move to first base and make room for Crow-Armstrong to get regular playing time in center, though that’s just one possible option for a Cubs team that could even see 2023 first-round Matt Shaw or top corner outfield prospect Owen Caissie debut sometime this year after strong performances in Double-A last season.
The reunion with Bellinger likely serves as a capstone for an offseason that saw Chicago also land left-hander Shota Imanaga and veteran relief arm Hector Neris in free agency. Club chairman Tom Ricketts recently indicated that the club was unlikely to exceed the Competitive Balance Tax threshold this winter, and RosterResource projects the club for a $234MM payroll in 2024 for CBT purposes, less than $3MM below the first $237MM threshold. That means a reversal of the stance would be nearly mandatory for the club to make further additions this winter, barring a trade that clears salary elsewhere on the roster.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan first reported the Cubs and Bellinger had agreed to a three-year, $80MM contract with opt-outs after the first two seasons.
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Any wild-card-caliber team should have taken the chance if that deal was on the table.
Good work by Jed Hoyer. Looks like a good deal for both the Cubs and Belli.
FAR from the long term big money that was predicted.
Boras must be dining on crow.
While I don’t think Boras has done Bellinger & friends any favors this offseason, I do wonder how much he would have gotten in a market like last year. Without the same worries over TV rights and teams throwing $200M+ deals to several guys, I can see a world where a resurgent Bellinger gets a long-term deal for $150M+. Of course, we’ll never know for sure, but I think these free agents may have met smaller-than-expected interest with any agent in the context of this offseason
Great contract for Boras. Last year he would have got close to 200 million. Mets had awful gm. Padres spending like crazy. Angels might have been in.
I think you’d need to know what other offers were out there and turned down to evaluate whether or not this was a great contract.
Despite his reputation, this has happened to Boras clients many times throughout the years. He often will get his clients top dollar, and always does when the market is right or they are the top guy. But his tactics backfire when the market isn’t as strong as he thinks or the player has more flaws than he wants to admit. Martinez is likely to suffer a similar fate, possibly Chapman too. I do think Snell will get his money once some top pitcher goes down in spring training with a big injury as always seems to happen. Montgomery might benefit from this too but otherwise will likely land on the has to settle list.
I have always felt Chapman would get a deal of around $75M over 5 years, and JD $12M for one year.
As for Snell, $125M 5 Years
Montgomery is the one Borris Client that I felt much safer offering a longer-term contract. I would feel safe at $180M for 8 years.
We don’t care about your feelings
Snell and montgomery should get long term deals as free agents since they havent been oft injured and are consitant in starts and lower era. I think the owners just dont want to continue or contribute to average of AAV of $35 milion + for top tiered players.
More likely the RSN fiasco.
i love when people say this. boras is certainly not reading this, but laughing at you all the same as he walks that check down to the bank and tells them to get ready for another one next year
30 million a year for this guy?? lol go cubs go… sign Alfonso Soriano 2.0
I hope so. This is, essentially, a one year deal. Soriano hit 33 HR in the first year of his deal.
And “thebirds” will eat crow.
no. weirdo
but, but…that’s cannibalism!!
no, Pete Crow
I hope you’re right and this becomes a one year deal. Because that would mean Belli has a huge year – and could move on.
Also, I’m encouraged since I didn’t see anything indicating there was a NTC included.
Yes, the Cubs needed him this year because it makes them more competitive and buys them a year of evaluation and development for the system.
But Belli at age 31 isn’t likely going to be the top player on the market in a few years. It’s likely Boras screwed up.
A year like 2023 and Bellinger is gone after 2024 and gets a deal for far more than the $20-22 million AAV.
I think you better look back at just how good Alfonso was for the cubs especially with his age going through that contract but hey the uneducated are the uneducated
8.2 bWar for $97,000,000 (in 10-15 years ago money) is maybe average.
I think you ought to. That was a terrible deal for the team.
cmj
Per FanGraphs, Soriano provided $116 million in value on his $136 million contract.
He didn’t quite produce what he was paid, but far from a disaster.
I think you better look back at just how good Alfonso
==================================
1.5 bWAR per year with the Cubs. Maybe you should look back instead.
Bellinger wishes he was Soriano and so do the cubs.
King B – Soriano was a horrible LF who was a 110 wRC+ bat. Belli is a +CF and probably just as good or better with the stick.
Soriano produced nearly 3 fWAR a year for great Cubs. He was a fine player
The Cubs, who missed the playoffs last year by 1 game are under the tax in a weak division with a top farm system. A 1-2 yr 30 mil flyer on a +CF is a dream scenerio for them.
The “flier” year was last season, when Hoyer was trashed by many for signing him for 17.5 mill. After the year he had and the camaraderie those guys developed (see Swanson, Hoerner, Steele, PCA quotes about him), this is no flier deal.
Ok – it’s a 1 yr deal – 2 yr deal tops. Call it what you want. The Cubs don’t want Belli long term at 25+
3 years max is not a long term deal. That’s why they waited out Boras. It’s worth the risk for a large market team.
When I called it the most of out of pocket free agent prediction MLBTR has ever posted, Tim Dierkes himself replied to my comment to push back.
It’s nice to know I’m not crazy. 12/$250 or whatever it was LOL. I mean it made no sense. Still don’t understand how they came up with that.
Boras comes up a wee 120 million dollars short of what he wanted to get for Bellinger.
Time will tell. Correa ended up with $235M over 7 years between his two Twins contracts.
And they will regret it before that contract is over.
I would bet they already do.
As many of us knew they would. When the Mets had originally signed him, I shook my head as a Mets fan because he’s so vastly overrated.
Correa will be fine. He earned his money last year in the playoffs alone, and he’ll have a good bounce back year this year.
Live, breaking news from 6 hrs ago. Thanks
Who cares? Did you need to know about a Cody bellinger Signing in the middle of the night?
Sounds like he knew it in the middle of the night.
Agree This is news ?
Keith, who cares? Apparently you care enough to grace us with your response. Lol
Dang MLB.com before MLBTR, thats a first for me…
MLBTR actually sleeps at night like most of us lol
Ok. First signing to ever happen in the middle of the night?????
Theirs been Trades in the middle of night.
If you post a article and no one is awake to read it does it make a noise?
I think that depends on whether or not the ads auto play.
No one’s dream GM–You make no sense…
dang! Lousy job there Boras! AAV is low and not even 9 figures?? my 90 year old grandma coulda negotiated a better deal than that
The AAV is low? It’s $30 million for the first year. If he’s any good this year, he’ll be back on the market next year. If he’s terrible and opts in, that AAV of $26.667 million is going to look pretty high.
A+ job Boras
AAV is much more than anyone expected him to get. Most sites were between $20 and $22 million. This deal gets Bellinger $30 million for 2024 and then he can be a free agent again. Another season like 2023 and his price is going to be 10/300 instead of 10/200.
I would have preferred holding Bellinger to an opt out after just the second year but finally a deal that works for both.
Interesting enough that this will push the Cubs just over the luxury tax threshold, I’m going to assume a follow up move happens.
Well the Mlb Tr overnight desk was on vacation or sleeping one off …however I will forgiving here
Excellent job Jed!!! People… we have a good front office in Jed and Carter!!!! They are making great moves!
Love this guy, so I’m happy he finally signed. Seems like a reasonable deal, since you never know what you’re gonna get from him.
A lot of nerve for folks who *don’t even pay for this site* to complain about not having a story up on a Saturday night. Who cares if MLBTR is first or not? If that’s all you want, just follow Passan and Co on Twitter.
Yea, Join Twitter, don’t be a Twit here!!!! 🙂
Superb post ted….
What a bunch of toddlers complaining that baseball news is “late”.
Back in the day, before internet and even ESPN, this might not have even made the Sunday paper (earlier cutoffs) so you might not have known until Monday edition of a printed newspaper!
Just some context for the “immediate gratification” crowd.
You must be Old, like me.
Aging gracefully!
Me Too, Retired last summer for good. Enjoying myself now with my hobbies.
Not late……..last (or near the end of the pile). I’m a little upset that my son texted me a little after 2:00 am and I automatically came to this site and kept refreshing until I went back to sleep.
Woke back up about 6—-jumped back on and figured my son had some bad info.
Then, I googled Belli and there were numerous reports going back five hours.
For the first time I made the mistake of using MLBTR as my number one for baseball news and rumors.
Still my number one—but need to admit they were a little slow to the party. All is forgiven and still have faith and trust in the staff.
Not bad for Bellinger actually. He can go back into free agency next year without the Qualifying Offer penalties. Shouldn’t be hard to pass up 2 years at $50 million total at that point, as long as he has another good year. Maybe 1B for the Yankees next season?
If he has a good season by all means he ll be opting out. Only way he stays is if he were to fall completely off again. Same type of contract Baez signed, unfortunately opting out did not become an issue for him. I think this is a great contract for both sides though.
I don’t know. If Soto isn’t extended by the Yankees, bellinger might not want to go through this anxiety for the third straight off season when he’s guaranteed 30 mil next year.
Brilliant minds think alike as I was thinking the exact same thing. If Bellinger has a similar year as 2023 I can see Yankees offering 6/150 to replace Rizzo. Its a perfect 1b replacement albeit 6 yrs younger.
This has Bellinger to Yankees written all over it for 2025. If he has another good season this is perfect replacement for Soto whom I don’t believe Steinbrenner meets his asking price. Bellinger either replaces Rizzo at 1B if they decline his 2025 option or he moves to LF for 1 season since Verdugo is a free agent then moves to 1B in 2026 when Jones is ready to take over CF/LF duties as both Dominquez or Jones can play either. Its win-win cause they avoid the outrageous $600 million tag for Soto and dip below at least the 3rd luxury tax hit in 2025 which is huge! They are predicted to be under luxury tax level in 2026 to reset if everything goes as planned.
Bellinger’s fiancé used to date Giancarlo. If it was me I might prefer to sign with a team where someone hasn’t previously banged my woman. But maybe that’s just me.
Absolutely would be my choice to replace Rizzo if he continues what he got back to last year.
Well, I’m happy he’s back but I feel like this is just going to end up as a one year deal.
Only if he repeats last year or better. If he is short of last year’s numbers by any appreciable amount, he won’t give up $51 million to risk it after year one.
I was close…I said 3 and 75 a couple of days ago, with no opt-outs. So this deal isn’t a team-killer. Good job Jed and Carter!
Played perfectly by Jed. He keeps the seat warm until Pete Crow Armstrong comes up in September and if he has another good season, opts into free agency next year. If he has a down year the cubs aren’t locked long term.
If PCA isn’t ready next year and Belli has an MVP-like season, opts out, and goes to an NL competitor, it doesn’t look so great next year. Cubs did fine but this could backfire.
What if PCA has a spectacular spring? What if Bellinger goes back to his doldrums? Lots of ways this could go wrong. Lots of ways it could go right.
I remember when Albert almora was gonna patrol wrigley for a decade.
That foul ball derailed his career IMO.
Almora had a 60 field rating PCA is a 70/80…so higher floor. Even if he sucks at hitting, he should still be able to stick in CF for a few years on defense alone.
Almora also had a 60 hit rating which should be very concerning for cubbies fans. Fans fall in love with prospects and many of them, even top 10 guys, never reach their potential that you dream on.
That is what i see here too. PCA is not even as good as Almora was plus he is a little nutty.
Then you need contacts.
Uncharacteristically slow newsbreak from MLBTR, but this is interesting for the Cubs. They didn’t HAVE to re-sign him.
Good-bye Matt Mervis, we hardly knew ya!
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Jimmy Buffett!
RIP to my #2 solo artist. Saw him live @20 times….
Jimmy rocks! Good dude, good tunes.
Actually met him during college in the British Virgin Islands. He was just chillin in this little bar on Tortolla, playing guitar on stage by himself @noon. My friend and I spent the next @6hrs hanging with him. Top 5 moment in my lfe.
putting another man on a pedestal
???
Too many peripheral stats showing too many warning signs for the 6year $180 mill deal that was expected right after the season. Cubs only in the hook for three years max if he sucks, and if he blows it out, he takes the opt out but the Cubs get a year or two. All good.
Now they need a number 4 pitcher and their usual bullpen farm, and they look pretty solid for,the division.
They do need one more SP. Last week I looked at the projected CHC OD starting lineup and thought, “Wow, they REALLY need Bellinger in that lineup.” This should mean we won’t see Tauchman as a starter on Opening Day, and that makes it all worthwhile.
Tauchman did more than they hoped for, last year.
What’d he do, steal your girlfriend?
“Predicting a 12 year $264 million” ..This is a completely ridiculous salary fabrication/projection. “Trade Rumors” must get their “projectuons” directly from Scott Boras. The free market just determined Cody to be worth less than a 1/3 of that. I have to think that anybody pushing this kind of cash for completely inconsistent, somewhat injury-prone players is trying to lead MLB towards insolvency.
Yes they were almost double every other site on his contract prediction. It never made any sense.
They’re usually pretty realistic and accurate most of the time. Never understood how they got 12 years for $264 mil. That has to be one of their worst predictions since they started to do their top free agents lists with predictions.
The Athletic predicted over $200 million. It wasn’t just this site.
Where can we see your predictions at? You called them out on the article they made it right?
You got that all wrong. The free market just determined that Bellinger is worth 36% more than MLBTR predicted. If he has a 2024 season equal to 2024 this just bumped the value of his next deal to over $300 million.
Life – No offense, but you have no concept of higher AAV for short term deals vs lower AAV for longterm deals.
Total guaranteed value of a contract indicates what a player is worth at that point in time, not AAV.
If Belli’s peripherals are a true indication, he will have regression this year. And if he has another 1-2 injury plagued seasons, he’s screwed.
No offense but you have no idea what I understand and don’t have a clue about how the market works. Bellinger just won big time. Instead of maxing out at $20-22 million AAV, he just reset his market value to $30 million and will be back on the market in November. If he has a similar year his next deal will be $300 million. If he has an injury plagued year or two he will make $80 million guaranteed and go back on the market at 31. No matter what, he wins.
I also noticed you didn’t even try to mention what peripherals because that is a bunch of hooey.
He lowered his SO rate, increased his walk rate, and was on his career best for PwrSpd. He sacrificed power for batting average and contact and it paid off. He still hit a highly respectable 26 HR. He drove in baserunners at a rate 5% over MLB average and even his outs were productive as he moved over 50.9% of baserunners when NOT getting a hit. His BABIP was only 11 points higher than his average before the injury. That means at most a 6 point drop in BA.
There is literally nothing you can point to that indicates regression is coming.
Exit velocity/hard hit rate. Your understanding of economics is apparently worse than your understanding of baseball. I didn’t even know that was possible.
Time for the rest of the Boras Four to come down to earth.
Probably not Snell. I predict he’ll be the last to sign if at all this year. Chapman’s price will actually have to drop lower than Bellinger’s. After the mostly bad platform year he had in 2023, I think he needs a BIG bounce back in ‘24 for anyone to even consider signing him longer than 3 years.
30 million is still to much. Bellinger had a great year last year but flopped the two previous years.
Since Ben Nicholson-Smith left this site i feel like im reading a newspaper.
they do great analysis for FO subscribers – i get a handful of emails every week with great rundowns from the site’s writers, including a mailbag last week with Tim Dierkes where he talked about the Boras Four. Well worth the $2-3 per month to get that kind of insight direct to your inbox.
DitD
“they do great analysis for FO subscribers”
I haven’t seen much in their free stuff to suggest that that would be true.
FG’s analysis is heads and shoulders above MLBTR’s, IMO
Love me a good 2 in the morning deal! You can smell the cigarettes and coffee.
Well with that massive drop in asking price I think we have seen the shoe drop now and the others should get picked up quickly.
I wont be floored if the remaining 3 also go back to their teams from last year
BB
“You can smell the cigarettes and coffee.”
Gross
Funny, growing up in the mid ’70’s those 2 smells combined with toast were the smells of morning for me. I’d come down after getting ready for school and there was mom sitting at our kitchen counter with the newspaper, tv on, toast on a napkin, cup of black coffee and a cig in the ashtray and enjoying her morning.
Magical moments from my youth.
And no I never smoked.
“Boras Four to come down to earth”..A good sports agent operates in the background, keeps salary asks and details quiet, shields his client from negativity and does not grab every microphone, trying to be the star of the show. By this measure, the over-the-top, bombastic, mercurial Scott Boras is not a good agent.
Boras likes to get attention as much as his players. The man loves the media attention, and it shows with his colorful language during his press conferences.
“Boras likes to get attention”…Manny Machado’s & Ohtani’s agent got them WAY MORE $ and we don’t even remember their names. The only reason Boras is so well known is he never met a microphone or public forum he didn’t love.
A good sports agent also gets his clients as much money as possible, and gets them where they want to go. If Bellinger wanted to stay in Chicago, and if this was the best deal available, he did a good job.
“A good sports agent”..You ask for $264M and accept less than 1/3 of that and that’s a “good job?”. Nice spin bro and I’d certainly hate to hear your definition of a bad job.
It’s on for Snell and Montgomery now. Let’s see who gets them!
I wish the Tigers would offer Montgomery 5 Years & $100M with No Opt-Outs.
If he turns it down, let him walk.
He’s walking. I don’t think he’d choose Detroit for double that money.
Idk, they’re pretty widely considered an up and coming team with a lot of young talent that’s starting to click. I could see it, especially since it’s a pitchers park.
They’ve improved but Harris still has a lot of work to do. Tigers fans have to hope that all the draft capital they spent on Pitchers before they all got hurt bears fruit. They need them to come back healthy to take a step forward. The odds seem against that IMO. But Harris is a good man for the job.
Don’t be mistaken. He would easily choose the Tigers for double the money. It’s called business..
For Mariner fans that wondered if Seattle was making an effort…they weren’t.
Daniel Kramer had reported that they were never ‘in’ on him, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t interested, it likely means they checked in and learned they’d never be able to afford him and/or he wasn’t interested in Seattle.
Aloha folks, great job by Hoyer not giving into Boras demands and overbidding on basically themselves. Gives some time for the younger talent to develop. If Cody does well this season he’ll most likely opt out like Correa did in his first contract with Minnesota. Mahalo
It’s a safe deal for both player and club. Fair pay for his peak potential, manageable pay if he drops off, opt outs if he truly can get someone to hand him like 5 years/$160M or something crazy on the open market and a $26.67M AAV on 3 year deal that works out to mediocre value is extremely middle of the road in today’s market. Also if he completely flames out and this deal is it for him, it secures his financial future with a substantial final payday from baseball.
Meh but also quiet respectful hand clap for this conclusion to the Cody Bellinger free agency saga.
So not unlike the 3-year deal Correa took with the Twins then. If Cody puts up great numbers again in 2024, he’ll have two straight seasons of proven success, and by then, even the Cubs will offer a long-term deal. This also gives the Cubs a chance to see what PCA and Busch can bring to the table. I am pleasantly surprised by this.
Sure I’ll take the 30 million you know you deserve to pay me on the life of this contract. You can offer the option years, but at-least I’m getting paid to double down again on my market.
Cubs raked Boras over the coals on this one.
I think Jed Hoyer realized that he didn’t have to bend to what Boras wanted since he didn’t have any real suitors. Cubs never bid against themselves on this one.
For years and years Boras has been able to get top dollar for clients really not deserving of it. I think most owners are tired of his BS and let’s face it. His crop this year isn’t that impressive. Chapman is slightly above average 3rd baseman who hasn’t hit in years. Blake Snell is a 5 inning starter who walks way too many and this past year he got very lucky that a lot of those walks didn’t turn into runs. Jordan Montgomery is Jeff Suppan 2.0. Yes I know Monty is a lefty but he’s a middle of the rotation arm who had a great post season and now he wants to be paid like a number 1. Bellinger has to have mixed feelings. He got paid well despite all the red flags but it’s a 3 year deal. You now he wanted at least 5. Boras has to make this move. Collusion against the players no. Collusion against one agent yes. Boras’s “mystery team” and “better offers elsewhere” isn’t working out to well this off-season.
Chris
Glad you’re here to think about the poor billionaire owners getting taken advantage of by big mean Scott Boras.
:jerk off motion:
I bet that’s a motion your really good at. It’s millionaires against billionaires so I don’t have a dog in that fight. Boras’s tactics have made him into a comic book villain. He’s not robbing the rich and feeding the poor. He’s a sports agent.
Chris
“It’s millionaires against billionaires so I don’t have a dog in that fight. ”
But here you are licking boots anyway
“He’s a sports agent.”
So, not a villain at all? Just a dude doing a job.
“He’s not robbing the rich and feeding the poor.”
Nope. He’s not robbing anyone. He’s supporting labor against capital. Something you should probably be supporting – but, since you’ve been brainwashed and haven’t put any of your brain cells to thinking about the issue (or, it appears towards thinking about the valuation of baseball be players) – you just regurgitate the lines that you’ve been fed.
Chris
Muted (homophobia. And an idiot)
To even make that implication shows how truly small minded you are. You are defending someone who doesn’t even know you exist. You are obviously that rare paragon of virtue who is never wrong and always right. It shows how simple you really are.
Boras must have been desperate to get Bellinger signed. Seems like Cubs got a team friendly contract considering Boras & Bellinger were initially asking for $200M+
Bellinger’s signing may send a message to the remaining Boras clients. Boras’ waiting game backfired on him. The remaining Boras clients may not get the contracts they are seeking.
Current & future clients may re-evaluate their association with Boras.
I’m guessing Bellinger pushed Boras on signing. I think Bellinger was willing to sit out a week but not longer.
Agree 100%
Admittedly, I’m probably one of the older readers of these articles, but to me this opt-out stuff has gotten out of hand.
It’s just so Bellinger can have a great 2024 season and test the market again to get a long-term deal. For the Cubs, it’s a way to not be tied up long-term deal with a player that has a chance to regress again. They learned from the Jason Heyward deal.
The opt outs are in no way beneficial to the cubs. They’re all downside. If he’s good, he opts out, if he’s bad, they’re stuck with him.
It is the compromise for agreeing to a short-term deal. Cubs clearly want him to play well enough that opting out is a no brainer. The downside risk is tolerable in their view as far as only being a 3yr pill to swallow even though AAV is significant.
I think you’re confused. If he opts out it means he had a great year, likely the cubs make the playoffs. But they have an 80 tool CF waiting in the wings, how is that bad for the Cubs?
Because they are taking on the risk that he’s bad without the benefit of retaining him if he’s good. If it was just 3/80 and he was good enough to opt out, they’d be able to trade him for something if they wanted to let PCA play rather than letting him go for nothing. If it were 1/30, they’d be able to move on from him if he’s bad. However, they’re stuck with another 2 years/50m if that’s the case.
This really isn’t that complicated.
You are right it is not complicated, but it’s a negotiation. Bellinger and Boras wanted the opt out as the prize for accepting way less years and total contract guarantee than anyone envisioned. If his play declines or injury occurs, both lose relative to what their respective goals are.
Opt outs amazing for players. Awful for teams. I am probably one of the younger readers.
Next up for a mystery team……Chapman perhaps signing 2/40mil with opt out. That might be tops for a meh declining bat (6th type hitter in decent lineup) that still defends well at older age.
“Jason Werth will totally transform the way Major League teams view outfielders” – Scott Boras.
Definitely not the 12 year $250 million commitment that was predicted here. Still, 3 years and $80 million is far better than he could have done this late in the game. I suspect with Bellinger out of the way perhaps Snell accepts whatever the Yankees offer is and the ball starts rolling on the remaining free agents
Hopefully the Red Sox can get Montgomery, he makes a lot of sense for them, and the price should be dropping too.
If the prices for Snell and Montgomery drop I think you’d see half the league back in on them.
Way off what was predicted. Boras either screwed him by waiting this lo no or the predictions set the expectations were insane high and we our just shocked. Personally, belly and snell are similar profile to me. Yes, their great years are special, but their bad years can really sting. Especially if it’s at the cost these guys were projected to earn. It’s just a huge gamble for that kind of money.
Predictions high. This is a great contract for Bellinger.
This is a smart deal for Bellinger, if he puts together another good year he still can get his big payday!
Define big payday? Maybe 6/162 -180 but no way is he getting 12/265 that was thrown around and he becomes a year older next year. Lets see if Bellinger gets rid of his agent after this fiasco!
Think 10/300. Cubs just set his value at $30 million per and he will get 8-10 years if he has another good season in 2024.
Unless he crushes the ball again he will likely never see a season as good as 2023 again. Maybe he can get a few more hrs to make up for the lower average. Needs to hit the ball as hard as he did last decade if he wants a big long term deal.
A lot of criticism of Boras here, but I think he got Bellinger some security. The asking price of $200m or whatever isn’t necessarily outlandish given Bellinger’s age, but the risk in the profile is still a pretty obvious one and this gives Bellinger an $80m pillow. If he is more like the peripherals suggest, he’s still valuable as a league average hitter who can play a premium position well so the $80m isn’t all downside. But it’s still a fair bit to pay for that. Especially if he moves off of CF over the course of the deal or if actual production falls even lower than those peripherals suggest. I don’t see any downside here for Bellinger. Even if he does opt in to both those years He still has his age 30 season as a platform ahead of another chance at a multi year deal.
What peripherals are you talking about? The ones that matter, SO rate, BB rate, contact rate, PwrSpd all point to another great year from Bellinger. He said he sacrificed power for contact and still hit 26 HR.
Overly simplistic would be xwOBA. Or any of the metrics that attempt to be predictive that lead to almost all of the projection systems pointing towards a slightly above average hitter.
Chapman going to regret that 100-120mill extension from Toronto last year. Hope the Bluejays scoop him up on a similar 80mill deal.
“Chapman going to regret”…Chappy is essentially an all glove, no hit 3bman. It’s been said you can find this type of player in South or Latin America on virtually every street corner..Chapman is fortunate the media and baseball community even views him as worth more than 10-12M/yr.
While he is coming off one of his worst offensive years, he has a career 117 OPS+, you are acting like he is IKF!
Yeah, it’s overstated because he’s obviously better than IKF, but at this point he really is a just above average offensive player. And defense rarely ages that well.
It’s a win-win for both parties. Cubs stay in the mix to contend. Bellinger gets $30M to prove last year was not a fluke and try the market again next year. And if something happens, he can stay for year 2 at another $30M. At the end of the day, will he gross more than $260M in the next 12 years? Probably. Many of you are looking at today only. Look at the outfield free agents next year or in 2026. Look at the big salaries coming off the books in the next two years for many teams. The money will be there if Bellinger performs. And if he doesn’t, is life so bad with $80M in the bank?
He ain’t getting close to 260m let alone over.
For you, $80M would be outstanding because your peers likely do not command similar salaries. Belli was going for ~225 mil.
Now, he has to double down on a “prove it” year, which most of us and definitely all GMs know by now isn’t supported by metrics or common sense, so no, not such a bad life, but an awful outcome.
Who said he was going for $225? MLBTR? I don’t think they speak for Bellinger or Boras.
How is it awful?
He was bad for a couple years, the Dodgers non-tendered him, which is awful, but then he got $17.5MM from the Cubs, and is now guaranteed another $80MM over three years even if he reverts to 2022 form, which would bring his career earning to over $140 million. So basically he monetized his horrible 2022 into nearly $100MM over four years, and he can go out get even more if he has a solid 2024.
He took a shot to see if the market would give him more at this moment, it didn’t, so he got at minimum $80 million, and will get another shot a year on.
I’m not seeing the awful.
Cody earned that 80 million 2017-2019.
Boras flopped and landed ~40% of what was rumored as the request by industry insiders articled here and on twitter. Maximizing future earnings now requires future performance, which is at best kicking the can down the road.
Cause rumors and industry insiders are more knowledgable than Boras and the owners. Remind me to invest in the stock market based on rumors.
I think we can all agree his tepid market confirmed an inflated ask by Boras.
But yes, I do trust this site and industry sources for disseminated information which in this case was an initial ask “north of 200 million”.
So he can take 2024 off.
Glad he’s off the board.
Question: What would be this season’s numbers to validate $30M ?
This will help me predict if he opts out,
Curious.
wc
4 WAR
Repeat last year.
It’s interesting, looking at recent high-end signings who actually stayed healthy and performed in line with their contracts last year, Freeman, Seager, Semien, Olson, Betts are all decent examples. They come out to about $4M/1 WAR If you go more to the Ramirez, Swanson, Bogaerts level, they’re closer to 4.8M/1 WAR. If he puts up 6 WAR, that more than earns it using those examples as comps.
Yep same as last year. That’s worth 30 million. But unless he hits the ball harder last years numbers are unlikely to happen. But maybe he hits a few more hrs to make up for lower average. Steals more bases? Plays a good CF and they don’t use him much at 1b?
But he isn’t getting a mega contract unless he hits the ball harder. Unless one of the stupid teams gets stupid. Padres new ownership. Mets new gm. So that leaves Boston LA and we know which LA and Yankees. Boston doesn’t seem to want to spend anymore. Yankees will probably spend on Soto. Maybe a Colorado Detroit wants to waste some money. Not a great market for him.
That’s stupid. He hit 26 HR. If he has a 133 OPS+ in 2024 with 25-26 HR he is going to get paid as much long term as he is in 2024.
At best, I figured 7 or 8 years at 200 was the best Bellinger would get. 12 years is ludicrous!
Even sadder for the weakest member of the community who rarely makes any predictions and the ones they do are almost always wrong, to find such enjoyment from this.
Nice! I predicted another correct free agent signing.
NYY missed out here. This was their perfect CF to save AJ’s life and career. He costs what Stanton costs BUT IS PRODUCTIVE!!! Yankees were talking about signing “more guys” lol they must have meant to the minor still… zzzzzzzz
NYY missed out here.
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In retrospect, yes. I like the alignment of Verdugo-Belli-Judge better. And Belli would’ve been a heck of a lot cheaper.
He’ll be on the market next year when NYY will be shopping for a 1b and potentially an OF.
Bellinger’s deal ( or a similar deal with Snell) would cost the Yankees 185 million over 3 years. No chance they go there.
NY dodged a bullet.
Boras had fold on one of his FA to show that he can create safe deals for his players with an opt out. He’s probably going to do the same now on Snell/Montgomery deals.
Finally, the 2 big dogs are off the board. Bellinger and Tim Anderson
“Finally the 2 big dogs are off”..Once Tim Anderson backed off his demands for a statue the Fish quickly signed him.
I hope everyone is ready for Deez predictions!!!
1. Cards 86-76
2. Reds. 83-79
3. Cubs. 81-81
4. Brew. 80-82
5. bucs. 78-84
Unless the cubs add snell or Montgomery I can’t take them seriously. Reds are young and exciting and could sneak in and win the division if the cards struggle.
But you take the cards pitching seriously
Bro Lance Lynn is your number three starter..simmer down. U guys will be lucky to have third place in my estimation. We will see. Cubs or Reds win the division.
Seems like a reasonable prediction Deez. I also wouldnt be surprised if the order of finish, and the associated W-Ls were completely flipped.
You have the cardinals improving by 15 games when they are basically rolling out the same team with another year of declines from Goldschmidt and Arenado. They were 19th in all MLB in runs scored last year, after being hyped as in of the best lineup in history. They replaced wainrights 7 era with Lynn’s 5.7 and Gibsons 4.7. It amazes my how actual production and results are so often ignored by Cardinals fans and I was a season tickets holder for a decade.
ihps
“You have the cardinals improving by 15 games when they are basically rolling out the same team ”
Nothing weird about that
The team underperformed last year.
Regression in 2024 is likely
They didn’t under perform last year, they just performed. They were 20 games over .500 against the central in 2022 and 10 under last year. Goldschmidt’s decline started late 2022, continued last year and will be furthered this year. Baseball is not kind to 36 year old 1B. Arenado started declining last year to. 3B is hard in the body, he will continue to decline as well. So I’m not sure where a regression happens. The offense is low mid and the rotation is terrible. They will won’t get to the 2023 71 win total. They could very well only get to 60 wins.
ihps
“They didn’t under perform last year, they just performed. ”
Citation Requested
They had 14 pitching fWAR and 19 batting/defense fWAR
That’s 33 fWAR which is an 81 win total.
“They will won’t get to the 2023 71 win total. They could very well only get to 60 wins.”
Wanna bet?
Citation? They played 162 games last year, they were what their record says they were. They were bad. I projected it going into last year. And they are going to run the same team out there again this year with Goldschmidt and Arenado one more year removed from their prime and a pitching staff that didn’t get better. Meanwhile the entire rest of the division got better for the second year in a row.
Ihps
“Citation?”
Yes.
“they were what their record says they were. ”
Citation requested.
“They were bad. I projected it going into last year. ”
No, you didn’t
But, I tell you what. Let’s make a bet
If the Cardinals are over .500 this year, you delete your account.
If they are under 71 wins, I’ll delete mine
Money where your mouth is?
They were 71 and 91. You can look up their 2023 record on a number of sites.
As far as my prediction last year, my screen name at the time was Guest678. My prediction was sub .500 season finishing no higher than third in the division behind at least the cubs and brewers. My reasoning, they were only 3 games above .500 outside of the division in 2022, so with the rest of the division ready to compete in 2023, a putrid pitching staff, and the intro of the balanced schedule they were going to get exposed for being able to hide how bad the team actually was.
Sure, I’ll delete my account if they finish over .500. No worries about that one.
ih8
“They were 71 and 91. You can look up their 2023 record on a number of sites”
No one is arguing what their record was
Any nerd who just looks at stats and Evo never played the game can see that.
“Sure, I’ll delete my account if they finish over .500. No worries about that one.”
Marked and noted
Don’t let me down
I’m sorry I don’t hold on to the past and can see past the propaganda pushed by the local media. The current state of the cardinals wasn’t hard to predict. It started going down hill after TLR left. I didn’t renew my season tickets in 2017!after having them for a decade. I told my sales rep when Mozaliak is gone, I’ll be back. I’ll still watch every game and look forward to laughing at Oli’s post game comments. But just like last year, I’m expecting a bottom 5 or 6 team in all of baseball. With Chase Davis and a top ten draft pick this year and next, I’m looking forward to a good team in 2027.
ih8
Ok,sir. But this is a Wendy’s
Like many divisions I think any of the top 4 could win the division and 1 more to get a WC.I think win totals for MIL, CUB, and CIN should be higher but not much. I could see division up for grab going into the last week. No disrespect to PIT intended, improving team. Show me state fans can be sceptical StL of Lynn’s contribution. You would think Matz will improve even if as a pt or ft reliever
I think the Reds have the most potential and balance. If the kids all take a step forward they could run away with that division the way it is situated.
I like Cody, but not at $30 mil! Wooow, good the Cubs didn’t go long term. Similar contract on deck for Snell!
It’s going to be interesting to see how Boras works the next 3 contracts. If he doesn’t land what he needs to keep his reputation, I’m wondering if he changes his tactics and/or players move on from him. Right now other agents are probably progressing that money on the table is mostly gone when Boras arrives and those that do have luxury room are normally too cheap to pay the ask.
My guess is that this turns into a lousy contract for the Cubs. They probably pay year 3 (and maybe year 2) without Bellinger even playing for them.
Ha, that makes no sense. He was projected to get 200+ for 6/7 years(THAT would have been a “lousy” contract) this is a GREAT deal for the Cubs. They didn’t panic, didn’t budge and got their guy for what they were comfortable with.
I guess Bellinger really did want to go back to the Cubs and good on Jed for not bidding against himself.
He’s not a pitcher. He will play. Likely won’t be worth 30m or even 20m worth but he will play.
Go Cubs Go!!!
I’m as anti Boras as the next guy but if the market wasn’t there (or isn’t in the case of Montgomery/Snell) it wouldn’t magically be there if they had different representation.
Problem is I think Boras has rejected so many deals in his time he creates this non market for his players because lot of GM’s don’t like dealing with him. I firmly believe it’s less about his players than it is about him.
Somewhat agree, but if an GM or POBO refuses to consider the player just because he’s repped by Scott Boras, they shouldn’t be a GM or POBO. IMHO
Don’t know why anyone pays attention to Boras. I wouldn’t even have a agent or find one to work for cheap. If you can negotiate fine enough and understand contracts no need to give away your money.
Glad it got done. It is essentially a one year thirty million dollar deal while he keeps the seat warm for PCA. I am happy..Glad it wasn’t the five year deal people had been talking about. Now let’s go win this winnable division.
Too much sentimentality in this deal. I think Chapman would’ve been the better get overall. PCA will hit enough to stay in CF and any combo of Mervis/Bush/Wisdom, etc at 1B would’ve been the biggest risk, but worth taking if they saved enough to get say… a Michael A Taylor at 4-5m to play CF.
He could be next on a similar deal…
Finally! Jed really cooked on this one. Would have preferred the opt out after only the second year, but way better than a 6-8 year deal.
Glad Bellinger is both off the board and back with the Cubs. The fit was there. While it’s not $200mill, ultimately this is a very player friendly deal. If Bellinger continues his pace from last year, he can test the market again and if not he’s covered.
I wonder if Bellinger would have accepted this all along and Boras was Borasing.
I wish the Tigers would offer Montgomery 5 Years & $125M with No Opt-Outs.
If he turns it down, let him walk.
Was Belli on the team last year when the cubs choked away a playoff spot the last ten days of the season..
Yes, but you know who isn’t returning? Davis Ross. The choke was on him.
Replaced with another choker Counsel
Hey to be fair, Counsell only chokes once his team is in the playoffs.
WOW! Well done Jed! The Cubs never wanted to commit to 200+ million for several years. They stood their ground and still got their guy! Boras really took one on the chin.
Be ready Cubs nation gonna be fun in chicago. Its gonnna happen. Again.
For those few stating Bora$$ did well with this signing, I have a bags of doggie doo on sale if you are interested….. it’s really good S***, lets make a deal?
*opt out of final 2 years and $40M not $50M right? Or am I missing a bonus or something?
Jay Z
“*opt out of final 2 years and $40M not $50M right? Or am I missing a bonus or something?”
It’s $80 million.
So, 30, 30, 20
So, if he opts out after year 1, it’s $50 million
Judge will be getting $40 mil a year until he’s 39.
Cubs did well here.
The massive difference is overall consistency from the player. Judge’s production had never been up and down like Bellinger’s has.
Still a wain foe Boras. Belli not close to a 30 mil a year player and he’s guaranteed 2 at that price.
thats the dumbest comment of the day
He’s not wrong.
Good job by the Cubs to finally get their “whale” ummm one year rental. Gives them flexibility and options depending on how PCA and Busch play this year and good for Belli to prove last season wasn’t a one year thing. Boras will be fine. Win some lose some. If Belli does well and Yankees fail to sign Soto next season, Belli probably gets to bank on a big fat contract with the Yankees (especially if Soto signs with the new ownership group in Baltimore).
For the Padres, any chance we get some crumbs and Cubbies trade Tauchman to us now and save you a little petty cash on your payroll?
They hope it’s only a 1 year rental.
I bet Bellinger switches agents before he hits the market next year or the year after.
Hopefully this will help other impactful free agents to finally make a deal. Teams like SF, TOR, LAA, NYY, BOS maybe NYM I suspect
Giants roster is already set.
So if Bellinger replicates or betters his numbers from last year and opts out, what type of contract is he looking at at age 29?
15 years $250 billion. payments deferred to the year 2058.
Similar to this or not exercising his player option. Unless it’s the betters path and the better is exit velocity and hard hit percentage etc.
According to MLBTR if that happens he’s looking at an Ohtani contract.
So basically a 1 year $30M…bleh Cubs got hosed as usual.
They hope. Might be 2 years 60m with 38 or 42m production. They hope.
If it ends up being a one year 30 million deal that means the cubs get another highly productive season out of bellinger and 50 mill in payroll freed up to spend on pitching or whatever roster retooling and adds they may need going into the 24-25 off-season. Bellinger gets another bite at the apple for a long term bag without the qo hanging over him. Basically win-win.
Except you’re ignoring that the cubs took on the risk of 80m, not just 30. It’s a win-win in the best case scenario, that doesn’t always happen.
Ya I know but I was responding to a person who was talking like the best case scenario is the problem with this deal.
Sounds good both ways. The Cubs likely get him for one year before he opts out. Belli gets at least $80M, and could easily line up for $100M/5 after this contract expires.
Cubs hope.
Now Cubs have a puncher’s chance at the playoffs. If they make it the deal was worth it in $$.
The only way Cody Opts out of the contract after this year is if he has a monster of a year and wins his second MVP and the Cubs go all the way.
He will opt out of the contract after the second year if he has bee playing like he did last year.
Oh, $30 Million per season for two seasons is more than enough.
Jake
“The only way Cody Opts out of the contract after this year is if he has a monster of a year and wins his second MVP and the Cubs go all the way.”
I do not think that is the ONLY way
He’s not getting higher amount of money.
His market never happened and he needs to prove last year was the turn in the right direction.
If he has a stunning year where it shows two consecutive years of plus hitting and his fielding stays gold glove then he opts to try the market but who is going to pay more than thirty a year and I truly believe he is not getting a contract that is five plus years.
He will try the market after the second year of this contract if he is healthy.
Being sign stealing and the juiced ball are no-more the MVP Bellinger will not be around.
He might opt out thinking another team is stupid enough to give him a contract with opt outs. Or he will do whatever Boras says and if he says opt out he will.
Nice signing and a reasonable price. This bumps their 2024 win projection to 84-78, making for a solid season.
They went from unlikely to a puncher’s chance at the playoffs. No real threat to Braves Dodgers, Philies, Dbacks, and possibly Reds.
Last season they should have made the playoffs but failed because of Ross.
They added pen help, rotation help and got Cody back, and if they can add Matt Chapman on a short contract then they will win the Central…
Heck, as weak as the Central is it is either the Cubs or Reds and my money is on the Cubs.
They have so much talent coming up that this team is built.
This year I will say they make the playoffs and next year they will win the World Series.
Oh, Cody plays First Base unless PCA runs a wall over and breaks his neck.
so when does he report to spring training?
All those news, rumors, articles were all wrong. They were mostly propaganda from Boras. Teams are not stupid. 150m, 200m bs.
$80m is still solid and what he earned.
“… low cost deal…” LOL
Someone pass the hat!
Yes, it’s not exactly low cost, but in comparison to what he was predicted to get, it is.
Inconsistent player. Good luck.
1. Good for tbe Cubs not giving in to Boras’ ridiculous commands of 200mil dollars
2. I wanted if Bellinger finally stepped in and accepted a deal because he knew he wasn’t gonna get 200 million or even 150mil.
3. The first domino of the remaining Boras clients signs. I hope Snell and Montgomery sign somewhere soon. Especially since games have started already. The longer they wait the less affective they potentially are and that can lead towards an injury.
Boras never made any demands. No one has written that he did.
This site predicted that he would get $264 million over 12 years. The Athletic predicted he would get $210 million over 10 years.
None of that came from Boras.
Boras just got his client a deal that sets his minimum AAV for the deal he will get in 2025 at $26-30 million. FAR more than anyone predicted.
He set his market at 200mil dollars. That’s what he asked for. That’s pretty much a demand. He did the exact same thing for Jake Arrieta. He set his market at 200mil based on his previous 2 years of pretty much dominance. Arrieta “settled” for 3/75 mil with the Phillies. And it wasn’t good.
Bellinger was one of the most talked about free agents in these comments for the last 3+ months now he gets signed and it seems like a big nothingburger story to me. Same team and a fraction of what everybody was saying he would get.
500 comments on a article that was half a day late.
A fair deal for the Cubs and Belli. An embarrassment for Boras. Be interesting if Bellinger fires him. Kudos to Hoyer for reining him in to further his comeback, mentor PCA and Busch.
Hp
Why would this be an embarrassment for Boras? What?
You said it’s a fair deal
People are crazy
Ahhh. Now he can go back to hitting .198
Well, he does have opt out after first and second yr, so there’s a good chance he will be trying. It’s a great deal for the Cubs.
Lisa must be credited. Even Passan has.
Bellinger lander in the spot I thought he would and with a contract similar to what I thought. NO ONE was going to give him a 6+, 25+ million a year contract guaranteed. He had a nice bounce back season but the injury and performance the two years before doesn’t equate big investment.
What is interesting is he metrics from last year do not equate to his final numbers. It is almost like everything fell his way. Even if he drops of to a .250, high strikeout, 780+ OPS guy it is still a good move for the Cubs. They aren’t locked long term if this goes south.
26 home runs for someone who had a barrel rate in just the 27th percentile.
Is that the most home runs for someone with such a low barrel rate?
Answered my own question, it is not. Alex Bregman, Brett Gardner, Didi Gregorious, Rougned Odor, Jose Ramirez, Adam Jones, Mookie Betts, Ian Kinsler, Brian Dozier, and Brian McCann have all had a season where they hit 26 or more home runs with a barrel rate of 6% or lower. However, it has not been done during the 2020s. The last players do accomplish this was in 2019 with Bregman and Gardner.
Bregman’s free agency will be interesting next year. Will he face the same scrutiny of the batted ball metrics? Similar guy but has shown it’s repeatable. Crawford boxes aren’t a feature at every stadium.
The thing is Bregman has always been productive despite meh batted ball metrics. 2023 was the first year Bellinger was an above league average hitter with a poor exit velo and barrel rate. Bregman’s highest single season barrel rate was 7.6% in 2018 when he had a 152 OPS+. Last two years he has a 6.3% barrel rate and 127 OPS+. If Bellinger can have another productive season while still having a mediocer exit velo and barrel rate, more teams might buy into it.
Yes. He’s had great results with those metrics. It’s the max exit velos that surprise me for a guy with consistent power production. But it’s really elite strike zone management so you believe in his ability to execute a plan. Also, for Bregman, there aren’t huge gaps between his xwOBAs and actual wOBAs the way Bellinger has.
And 2019 had the juiced ball
Gardner hitting 28 home runs was such a 2019 thing to happen. That’s not to say that Gardner never had any power, but 20.1% of his career home runs originate from 2019.
Ok. Admittedly a Dodgers fan here, but ZERO chance I would have given Bellinger a long, huge AAV deal.
He had three bad to downright terrible seasons in a row – and sure injury might have been in play BUT so was his absolute stubborn refusal to change his stance to something that makes sense. Plus, his underlying numbers suggest a future far closer to his 20-22 than his 23. He would have to repeat last year and even then, I’d probably still be afraid of a long, high AAV contract. Despite great defense.
Add to it the TV revenue uncertainty of a number of teams, the year after the year after a CBA spending splurge, and some bigger market teams pulling back spending, and this is what you get. I see it as a small win for Bellinger, and a BIG win for the Cubs.
As for the other Boras clients, did he over play the hand there? Unlike Bellinger, it is safer to say that Snell and probably Montgomery will NEVER have better platform years. These pillow contracts are harder for pitchers. Still betting they get paid – even if not the years and dollars they had hoped for when the offseason began.
But Boras is going to have to get that one team for each to bite – just takes one. Boston HAS to be lurking, Ditto Giants. And I bet the Cardinals are kicking themselves over wasting so much on Gibson and Lynn next year – cause allocating that money to Snell or Monty to pitch with Gray would have been a lot nicer!
Joel Wolfe could have got that done 3 months ago.
One of the worst Mlbtr contract misses ever?
some where out there , there was an NL only snake draft that went on this morning , whereby 9 of 10 owners relied solely on mlbtraderumors.com for information
The one owner who used another website was able to snag Cody Bellinger in round 19
I like that the Cubs re signed Bellinger I love that Boras wanted 200m and got 80m suck it Boras
30+20+20 =/= 80
Thanks!
I seem to recall a late season press conference where Jed was asked about the likelihood of bringing Cody back. And although he gave the usual GM non-response, the typically stone-faced Jed could barely hold back from grinning. I think he knew back then that Cody wanted to come back and he could leverage that to get a reasonable deal as he has just done.
Except it took the rest of MLB not wanting anything to do with his initial contract demands. Did Jed have a crystal ball to see it play out that way?
I think it’s quite clear that he did!
Or they just had a figure they were comfortable with and didn’t move off it and you’re reading way too much into something you think you saw at a press conference.
$30M per year is not reasonable for a good but not great player.
At this short of a term it’s incredibly reasonable.
Love the Boras haters. Bellinger is now the fourth highest paid outfielder in 2024 – only Judge, Trout and Soto will be paid more in 2024. And most likely 2025 as well if he stays. There are numerous avenues to $200M+ – And I’m sure at the end of the day, Bellinger and Boras will get $200M+
BS metrics about his average EV and hard hit rate scared away a lot of GM.
Yankees should have pounced and put him at the top of the line up, but Cashman loves his power .2o0 hitters.
Cubs steal one.
Nothing bs about math.
it’s not the math, it’s the formula that is in error.
average EV only takes into account the number of times you put the ball in play.
So you can have one player hit the ball 3 times at 100 mph and strikeout the next seven times in a row and another player put the ball in play all ten times at 95mph and the first player will have a higher average EV.
Bellinger is getting his numbers skewed for putting the bat on the ball.
These metrics without batting average support to identify a success rate are meaningless.
And you think you know this and mlb gms don’t? Putting the bat on the ball without hitting it hard isn’t something they are thrilled about. Not for 200 million at least.
I have no idea what the GM’s know and dont know.
the entire argument against the big deal was his underlying metrics. That is all they talked about on all the sites and presented them as hard facts when in fact they weren’t, and I am laughing because even now you are making the same error in interpreting how average EV is attained.
You just can’t read and comprehend.
Yankee forever. You win Post of the day
Yankee forever You are correct. Don’t interact with that buffoon, he’s a well known troll.
obviously, my intellect is so far over your head, you would need to hire NASA to help you track it.
But dont fret, your are not alone when it comes to not looking at the data and just parroting whatever you are fed.
You’re just stupid. I know what you are saying. I know this. Anyone under 50 knows this. Teams know this. They still don’t like it.
What happened to the 200+mill contract these people were saying he will get. 80 for 3. Not even close
Ah the ole George Costanza maneuver, hold out for less money.
It’s essentially three one year prove-it contracts
Deal seems fine to me. Boras overplayed his hand but this isn’t horrible for Bellinger due to the opt outs, it reduces his risk, while still getting roughly what he projects to get over 3 years if he doesn’t. The Cubs trade-off for that is they don’t get stuck with a 34 or 35 year old Bellinger under any circumstance unless they re-sign or extend. This is a surprise for me though, I was kind of expecting something like 4/115, but it makes sense it would go down this way. Boras always asks for the moon, and often gets it, or at least forces the maximum contract possible, even if occasionally his players get the short end of that approach.
Still a huge overpay. So glad it’s the Cubs!
Naw its a win from both sides he wanted 6 or more years cubs get him on half that less risk..and 30 mill for the cubs is chump change really they have plenty..and he doesnt have to be the same as last year just somewhat close..his real value last year was his presence in the line up he put stress on pitchers cause you didnt wanna walk guys in front of him…leading to those guys seeing lil better pitches
Good, Glad this drama is finally over. Now get to work!
Boras promised him a 100 million more lol.
Glad to see Boras lose. Happy for Bellinger in securing 80 mil after looking like an MVP flameout not that long ago… hopefully he ditches Boras and signs a bigger deal in a year or two
Well they can trade him if there not close to the playoffs too not much of a huge contract to trade either
Opt outs complicate things.
Not will they go after Chapman I mean his offense is ok but not great and how much is Chapman worth now with this deal belly is way better offensive
I hope they sign Montgomery too over Chapman
I think bush will be the 3rd baseman now tho with Belk signed maybe Montgomery I don’t see Chapman now with belly but you never know.
I heard they might do a trade for a 1 baseman and move belly to cf
Wait I thought Boras was going to get him 12yrs/$264mil? LOL.
Hi! I read a lot of the comments here and I’m glad there’s so much interest. Just to touch on few things:
– Our coverage generally ends at 11pm central and starts back up at 7am the following day. During really busy times of year we might end at midnight. So I am leaving the site open for something to break not long after we sign off and then we’re as much as eight hours late. This was one such situation and we were a good six hours late.
It sucks but even in times of better ad rates I don’t think I would be paying someone to cover the site at 1:15am on Feb 25. 99% of the time there’s no reason to have that.
Many times our awesome staff members happen to be online and they do write up late stuff, but that’s not in their job description. Steve wrote up Carlos Correa in the middle of the night once, Anthony, Darragh, and Mark have done those as well.
Waaaaay back in the day I asked some key newsbreakers if they’d be up for literally just calling me on the phone and waking me up. Ken Rosenthal actually did this once. It was kinda cool.
– Our $264MM Bellinger prediction was terrible, awful, all the adjectives. All those shots are justified, we took a big swing and missed by a ton.
I think overall we’re as good as others at predicting stuff, but here we went well outside the consensus (most said about 150 mil) and paid for it. It’s OK – not the first or last time for that. I think some people stake our reputation to predictions. We try our best on them and it’s fun to do but I think it’s more important to analyze things well after they happen and I’m proud of our work doing that.
Some of this stuff is somewhat unpredictable and that’s what makes it fun, in my opinion. So yes, six years and $150 mil would have been a more accurate prediction in total dollars, but it wouldn’t have really served our readers in that it was still far off. In October, nobody thought Bellinger would have to settle for 80 mil. I find it pretty interesting that he had to and there’s a lot to unpack with that.
Believe it or not, I do think precedent supported $200MM+ on Bellinger. I think we’ve made that case in places but I’m sure this will be a topic of podcasts and such. You can check that out and consider the argument, or you can just call us dumb and move on, your mileage may vary!
Take a deep breath tim..you have an awesome websight been a member for years..you can’t always be right but its not a big deal..you provide valueable insights …don’t let the haters get to you..the fact that you even take the time to respond shows you care and puts you far ahead of most similar sights..keep doing what you do all is good
+1 to justme’s comment, Tim. MLBTR is a great site, and one reason for this is your down-to-earth willingness to engage with your audience in posts like this. I appreciate you and Steve and the other writers at MLBTR for being so genuine.
Websight?
I wouldn’t pay for anyone to work graveyard. If you were willing to get up at 2 am and write a article you could give your bat phone burner number to trusted night owls. After a few weeks you would find out who the best legit options are and can change number to eliminate the trolls.
Just looking at hard hit data it’s obvious he would never get even half that amount. Unless a weak front office team wanted him. Padres new ownership. Mets new gm. Rockies Tigers already spent their stupid $. Maybe Angels. Yankees paid Ellsberry but seem to have wised up a bit. Giants were desperate for a star but likely one bigger than Bellinger. Odds weren’t good at finding a buyer. Terrible miss but you took a swing. Learn and move on.
I don’t think anyone in the business realized how much the media revenue uncertainty was going to affect this market. Over half the league has uncertainty after this year. It didn’t affect the top or the bottom of the market but the second tier has been affected a great deal.
Next year may be worse if the revenue uncertainty isn’t resolved. I don’t see the Dodgers spending like this again next year.
I love your predictions, I think they’re basically always in line with most other prognosticators from any number of other sports news publications and commentators.
Predicting contracts- landing spot, years, dollars, structure, etc.- and analyzing the final actual contracts are, personally, my favorite part of baseball outside of the game itself.
I can completely understand why you guys projected $264M given market conditions and the type of player Bellinger is and there are precedents for that projected contract value and the years.
I don’t think anybody could have predicted that the league would collectively decide to stop capitulating to the Boras model and force some equanimity within the market place.
Ultimately I don’t think many people could have predicted Bellinger’s 3 year/$80M deal in its final form. I am sure a lot of people might have predicted 1 year/$30M or $35M or 2 years/$60M or even 2 years/$75M, etc. but 3 years/$80M was probably not a common projection by any stretch, so I think it caught literally everybody off guard.
Keep doing what y’all do around here. You’re the best.
Bellinger got a $12.5 million raise for next season and if he repeats 2023 goes right back on the market and gets a 10/300 deal?
If he reverts to 2022 the Cubs still owe him $50 million?
That’s a huge win for Bellinger. He gets a much higher AAV than anyone thought possible which sets the base for his next deal and he is a FA again at 29.
Hard hit data needs to improve a lot to get 300m. Like last decade numbers. Even then it was only 1 year and he is another year older. Likely 300 isn’t happening.
He gets 26.3 million aav. MLBTR predicted 26 million over TEN years. Boras said before Christmas he expected to get 200 million minimum. That is most certainly not a huge win.
MLBTR predicted 12/264 which is $22 million AAV.
mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/2023-24-top-50-free-age…
It’s not a huge win for Belli. It’s a great insurance and a good deal for him and the Cubs. If he gets hurt and falls apart agin he gets 80 mil regardless. Had he signed a 200 mil contract he gets 200 mil regardless. I think both sides are happy. Cubs fans are thrilled. Boras is hoping Belli can get 200 after ’24 or it will look bad for him.
He just got a raise to $30 million from $17.5 million. By having another great year like he did in 2023 he proves it wasn’t a fluke He will be a free agent again at season’s end and will be looking at a deal for 10-11 years at $30 million AAV instead of the $22 million this site predicted or the $20 million most sites predicted.
I don’t know what world you are living in, but in the real one back here its a huge win.
Boras has a track record that speaks for itself but he way overshot here and as much as I dislike the Cubs I hope he does enough to opt out and get a deal he should have already. Bellinger had the same issue Snell has. Very inconsistent highs and lows. He totally banked on the platform season and organizations overlooking bad seasons. There were opportunities for Bellinger to get solid long term deals perhaps with opt outs but he was so unrealistic demands everyone moved on to mostly trade acquisitions. The same thing will happen with Snell. The Yankees would have probably been able to pull off both but after hearing the sizable gap in expectations they pivoted to a trade for Soto and signing of Stroman. Snell will end up with a very similar contract. Personally on Montgomery I don’t think he was ever worth the kind of money that was even predicted. He was very solid for the Cardinals and through his career but his asking price is all about a amazing run with the Rangers but that’s a pretty small sample size of dominance to ask for dominant starter money. When the Cardinals traded him there was talk of resigning him because at the time he wasn’t a frontline starter and one the Cardinals were willing to pay but he looked so good in Texas I guess Boras thought was enough to command top market dollars. Really he has three guys that could use one more season to show they really have the goods consistently but he priced them over the market no I see no other choice. Boras has had success waiting out the market for one high caliber guy but not 3-4 that have question marks
Boras did well. Needed a stupid team to be interested. They weren’t. Nothing he could do. To get what I thought to not be a stupid team give him this risky contract this late was pretty impressive.
F for Chicago. If he somehow starts crushing the ball again he is worth the 30m. Hasn’t done that since 2019 so how likely is that. Then he just opts out. You risked 80 million on very poor odds and only got 1 year. Not likely he gets as lucky this year so probably back next year for another awful 30 million. He can hit 20 some hrs. Steal a few bags. Doesn’t K much. If you play him only in CF he would be worth about 20 million. Could have given them a D. He could get some luck. He could hit the ball a bit harder. The odds don’t favor that outcome though. And they will probably play him at 1b too much.
A for Bellinger.
My dream.GM. would know enough about baseball to know that signing an All-Star level player (which is what Bellinger will be if he opts out) for 1/$30 is not a F under any circumstance
I don’t project him to be a all star player in 2024. So you want to ignore future projections because of past results? Not a very good plan. His hard hit numbers don’t project all star production. He can always get lucky again or start hitting the ball hard again. He might opt out anyways. I wouldn’t bet a guarantee of 80m on it happening though. I hope this off season he made a adjustment or got stronger or healthier or something and opts out and gets paid. Unless he did something to get his exit data up I don’t think he is getting that 200 million deal.
YDGM
I may have misread the first part of your previous comment
FG projects Belli for about 8 WAR over the next 3 seasons,
8 WAR is worth about $64 million. So, $80 million would be an “overpay”, but not egregious. So, not an F.
Negative 16 million is a F. You failed. If it was 1 year 30 million it would be C. Unlikely you get positive value but you need him and it’s 1 year. With opt out no matter how awful he is or if he destroys his knee or needs tj or something crazy you get to pay him another 30 million in 2025. Team is hoping he opts out. Not a good situation.
YDGM
Negative 16 million is a rounding error – $5 ,million a year. A fraction of a win.
“ith opt out no matter how awful he is or if he destroys his knee or needs tj or something crazy you get to pay him another 30 million in 2025. Team is hoping he opts out. Not a good situation.”
This is always the thing that short-sighted people get wrong.
The options were something like $80 million with the optouts or $90 million with no optouts. If Bellinger sucks or tears up his knee, they saved money by including the opt outs.
I don’t think it’s a great deal for the Cubs. But certainly not an F.
Simply don’t offer opt outs. Or only offer 1 year deal. That’s why it’s a F. Weak negotiating.
YDGM
My dream GM would see the value of opt outs to the team
Since they have value to the player, they save the team money.
Again, signing Bellinger for 3/$80 with opt outs is better than signing him for 3/$90 with no opt outs if something goes bad.
I agree. I see the value. I just don’t want to do those types of contracts. If I think there is no way he is opting out I want the 10m cheaper one. But I wouldn’t sign him for either. Or if someone wanted to do 3 for 80 no opt out. If another team wants to give him opt outs fine. Let them have him. If I thought he was going to put up mvp numbers I would gladly do the 3 for 90 vs 3 80 and he is gone after 1 year.
My dream GM wouldn’t see gray situations so black and white
Your dream gm sounds like a lot of current weak gms.
YDGM
Uh huh
You sound like every week dude ever. Cocky and insulting to hide their lack of self-esteem
Guy was worth 4+ WAR last year while missing a month. Even if he is just a league average bat a good CF who can run a little is a 3WAR guy and worth more than $30 mil.. Add to that he is a good 1B – a gold glove corner OF and only 28?
I think clubs wanted to make sure Cody can do what he did in 2023, again. When he was in LA last few years, he was terrible. If you can’t get it together I. LA, then something is wrong. He had a great season last year but to committ 200million to a player who had a career year, seemed unwise. 2024 should be interesting.
@Dodgerfan34 The problem is, they didn’t do that.
The Cubs didn’t take out an insurance policy in the contract, they GAVE Bellinger an insurance policy. If he’s good he takes $30m and departs, where if he’s terrible, he takes $80m and sits.
Terrible deal for the Cubs, given he’s hugely unlikely to do better than 4 WAR in 2024.
If he’s good, they break even. If he’s bad, they’re paying 3/$80m for a backup OFer.
Jack, you’re just dumb .So there’s no point even engaging with you.
Nah. He is spot on. At least it’s only a 80Mil gamble. Not a 250Mil gamble.
Personally I think its a good gamble.at least he ain’t Vlad Junior who is eating and drinking himself out of the league.
‘One of free agency’s top hitters reached [an agreement] early Sunday morning..’ Does nobody proof read these before they get posted?
How do you know? Maybe the story is he did a reach around early Sunday morning
Holy overpay Batman
Eh, the AVV is a bit high because it’s a short term deal. Also Belli is a 28 yr old +CFer who was worth 4+ WAR last year after missing 1 month+ Even if the bat regresses into the 110-120 range it’s a good deal for the Cubs.
The one thing I never liked about free agency is the expectation that a new club is to overpay a player for the excess value he gave his old club. 28 teams don’t owe Snell a dime.
Good deal for both I guess. Cubs grab Cody for well below what the projected contract amount was, Cody gets the chance to re-enter FA as early as next year if he has another good season.
The speed of a 21 year old Billy Hamilton combined with the defense of a 24 year old Kevin Kiermaier combined with the power of Albert Pujols. Amazing that it took so much time for Belli to be signed
Congrats to the Cubs on this move to make them essentially about as good as they were last year.
Although I knew it wasn’t going to happen but he’d do well in GABP.
Wondering how “exit velocity” accounts for not over swinging), hitting a ball where it’s pitched, to the opposite field, etc. Same questions go with some of these other fine tuning stat attempts to predict the future, that are now taken as gospel. There are a myriad of variables around most of these stats that are not taken into account.
He brings a bunch of other positives into that dugout/lineup and was a pretty necessary signing with the current Cubs landscape. Risky contract only if he completely fails, which is pretty unlikely. Play ball.
@Heywally
Expected stats are not really worth their weight in gold. Fangraphs community did a good job of dispelling the gospel of them.
community.fangraphs.com/properly-diving-into-expec…
“Once you have a large enough sample size on a player, previous batting average, on-base percentage, weighted on-base average, home runs, and stolen bases are the best way to estimate what a player will accomplish in an upcoming season. There’s a lot of variability in surface-level statistics from one year to the next, but if you’re taking a weighted average of multiple seasons, that matters much less. Remember, baseball features a 162-game season, and is thus an inherently large-sample-size sport.”
Last to comment. Nice. What a great deal for both the Cubs and Bellinger. The Cubs get one more year of Bellinger and for PCA to develop in the minors. They pay a premium and jump over the CBT threshold, but they get a premium player for their money.
Bellinger gets $30 million for 2024 and goes back on the market after the season if he repeats 2023 on the field. Now instead of predictions between 8/160 and 12/264 that had been floated this offseason, he will be looking at a 8-11 year deal with a $30 million AAV. If he goes back to being the injury plagued player with stats like 2021 and 2022, he is still guaranteed $80 million.
For the idiots that will try, by now have tried, to say that Boras lost because he didn’t get what some WRITERS predicted, that is not how the market works. Boras is smart enough to realize that. You apparently are not. Boras got Bellinger a great deal
Mr. Deeds is straight-up incompetent, even more so than that hack Steve Adams. “Excellent as he was in 2023” is NOT PROPER ENGLISH. The word “as” to start each sentence is not optional. Furthermore, “as such” shouldn’t have a comma before it. Fire this kid—he doesn’t understand basic grammar or punctuation.
Last couple of years the trend was to set the price and divided in too as many years posible (padres, rangers, mets, yankees). These year is more of a high average short term.
Borass misreading the market. I wonder what Julio Urias would had got? An unknown souse says Boras had a 350M on the table. I bet he would be unsigned yet.
The speed of a 21 year old Billy Hamilton combined with the defense of a 25 year old Kevin Kiermaier combined with the power of a 28 year old Albert Pujols and the hustle of a 29 year old Peter Rose.
Amazing it took this long for him to be signed.
Interesting note… the Cubs are around $ 3 MM below the CBT threshold meaning anyone signed above that value incurs penalties..
Emmanuel Clase’s 2024 salary number is $ 2.9 MM…
With the addition of Bellinger and or a more serious approach to the NL central race.. a deal that might hurt a little might be worth consideration..
Thoughts?
Why didn’t the defer 20 million a year till 2040? Oh wait its the cubs not Dodgers
Kind of bummed that boras was able to sign anyone. Looking forward to his demise and not having to hear about his bs anymore
What a hoot, they are already praying he’ll opt out, which he won’t ever do.