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Rosenthal's Latest

Ken Rosenthal posted a new article this afternoon.  A good read as usual, though not chock full of new rumors.

  • Rocco Baldelli remains the Devil Rays' best trading chip; they hope to see the 25 year-old return and re-establish the trade value he had in 2006.  Many are already saying the Rays waited too long on Baldelli, but let's see what they get for him before making that judgment.
  • Reggie Willits has hit his way into a starting job for the Angels.  Nice to see an Angel drawing walks 12% of the time.  That will enable Willits to remain effective after his batting average regresses.  Rosenthal says third base is the clear position for upgrade for the Angels.  Garrett Atkins is desired, and Rosenthal would consider Brandon Wood a reasonable bounty.  If I'm Dan O'Dowd, I'm making that deal.  Meanwhile, Bill Shaikin believes the Blue Jays would ask for Wood for Troy Glaus, but would settle for Ervin Santana and 1B/3B/DH Matt Brown.  Shaikin's source says J.P. Ricciardi is not yet prepared to trade Glaus, however.
  • Rosenthal speculates that the Braves would like to add a big-time starter to get away from the current plan of "Hudson and Smoltz and pray for lightning bolts."  Sorry, that was the best weather rhyme I could come up with.  He mentions Rich Harden and Dontrelle Willis, accompanied by the obligatory Jarrod Saltalamacchia rumor.  Poor Salty.

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A few toughts on the TB situation: Upton's arm is going to waste at 2b, he's an outfielder, probably a CF. Young continues to hack at an unprecedented pace with diminished returns. Baldelli won't ever fetch a ton because he's fragile, can't draw a walk, and only valuable at one of the most physically grueling positions. They won't get much for Baldelli or Dukes, if they want pitching it will have to be Upton or Young that gets dealt.

Agreed, but is anyone going to trade an absolute top tier pitching prospect? Maybe the Dodgers?

They're probably just better off keeping the high-upside hitters and trading Baldelli for some useful parts. Will they get a top of the rotation starter? No, but a a #3 and a good bullpen arm, maybe. Salti is a no-brainer if the Braves bite.

Anyway, they'll draft Price, and with Kazmir, Shields, and the AAA rotation they currently have (Sonnanstine and Hammel especially), they've got a great young pitching core.

I definitely am in the us Salty to get a young arm camp, it just seems to make the most sense. Our offense is young and is good, so why not get a young ace to accompany that for the next five years.

How about Baldelli for a relief pitcher. They could use a league average guy to try to hold some of those leads.

Baldelli is still worth more than a relief pitcher, even though I agree with the first poster about how he isn't that great.

Baldelli would still be a nice addition to the fish. He could slide into the 6-7 spot in the lineup and not have to worry about the OBP and leading off. He could then hit behind a Willingham/jacobs. We have plenty of arms down below one or two of them have to interest them. Something like a Jose Garcia (solid pitching spec) and a Harvey Garcia (RP very good we got from the Red Sox in the Hanley trade).

I think he could be a good fit in florida still.

As for Willis going to the braves, that is amusing. But, I cant see florida trading a 25 year old pitcher in division to their most hated rival. Now the mets they ahve traded with in the past but normally it has been older guys (delgado and loduca) being shipped off. This is a whole another can of worms. We are also only 4-5 games out of the WC and been dealing with a lot of injuries in the rotation which some will be back soon. We could make a good run.

I love Salty's potential. I think he will be a star actually in the league. But, I just cant see it happening with florida. Plus we would want a CF prospect when we trade willis as well.

"Baldelli would still be a nice addition to the fish. He could slide into the 6-7 spot in the lineup and not have to worry about the OBP and leading off. He could then hit behind a Willingham/jacobs. We have plenty of arms down below one or two of them have to interest them. Something like a Jose Garcia (solid pitching spec) and a Harvey Garcia (RP very good we got from the Red Sox in the Hanley trade).

I think he could be a good fit in florida still."

Every single day you want to tell us what an amazing fit he would be in FLA. Next your going to say that they dont need a closer, Henry Owens is just hurt lol. What makes you think that if the rays want Salty for Rocko, you are going to get him for 2 mid level guys. Dont think so, but hey, what should I expect from a guy who thinks Willis should net Fernando Martinez, Mike Pelfrey and Tony PEna.

And for the record, baseballfan, your an idiot. All you do is come on here and talk about how all you need is a stud catcher and that is the missing piece for your "championship run". Lol. But you dont want to go after the best catching prospect on earth? Interesting. Closer, centerfielder, until the the fish are just treading water.

And for the record, baseballfan, your an idiot. All you do is come on here and talk about how all you need is a stud catcher and that is the missing piece for your "championship run". Lol. But you dont want to go after the best catching prospect on earth? Interesting. Closer, centerfielder, until the the fish are just treading water.

Posted by: nrmax88 | May 22, 2007 at 01:38 PM


If Brandon Looper can for most of a season be a closer for a championship team then anyone can be.


Once more my statement was if the value of Baldelli and price on him has dropped that is very different. Also I dont see florida making a trade with Atlanta where they send a young lefty pitcher in division like willis. They have not done such before. The closest they have done was in the hampton trade with JP going to florida and colorado getting our salary dump and hampton to Atlanta. But that is a totally different aspect then a Willis to Atlanta.

Also please dont call folks idiots if they disagree with you. I dont think Willis should get that for what he is truly worth. But the value of pitching in MLB right now is extremely high and he could pull large amounts from other teams.

Even the article that I posted such in the comments stated the marlins would require 3 elite prospects.

Please be polite and dont show ignorance.

I'll be polite...

I am assuming you are talking about Braden Looper?

Pretty much most of the year in 2003 the fish used him as closer when they made their run at the WS. My point was an elite closer is not needed to make a run at a world series. Urbina came later on (in the adrian gonzalez trade, damn love to have him back).
But Looper was the primary closer for much of the year.


Also for those that dont know the marlins bullpen isnt that horrible this year. Kevin Gregg has been 5 for 5 with a very low era in the 2s. Lindstrom has been excellent with an era in the 1-2 range. Pinto the same, Owens the same. Tankersly before the one bad start recently (where jorge gave up the grand slam of inherited runners) was in the low 2s as well for Era. Couple that with martinez coming back and we have a lot of solid canidates for future closer there in florida.

CF is a concern with DeAva out of the lineup, and Ross gone too. But if the marlins lineup continues to hit like it has, and their pitching gets it back together having 1 bad spot isnt a horrible problem for the team. This is something that can also be addressed in the offseason if they really need to. There is enough potential CF in FA that the marlins (if they spend some cash) can get an average CF (unlike the mets and yankees we dont need a star everywhere nor is it viable to believe we could ever get to that point). This team was built around the idea of 2008-2009 in mind to compete for something special. :)

They gotta start with playoff contention in a division with Atlanta, Philly, and the Mets....2010 is more likely.

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