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Crawford To Cubs Rumor Shot Down
ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine suggested yesterday that the Cubs were preparing an offer for Carl Crawford. However, team officials told Roger Mooney today that there's nothing brewing. Apparently the rumor was Rich Hill, Eric Patterson, and a prospect for Crawford. That doesn't seem sufficient anyway. There was even some talk of a three-way deal involving the Brewers and Yankees, which was from Gotham Baseball. According to Mooney, none of it is for real. You be the judge.
In other Rays news, they picked up Al Reyes' $2.3MM option and passed on Greg Norton at $1MM. No surprises there. UPDATE: Reyes actually has a $1MM base salary plus $1.3MM in incentives.
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Posted by: Flatley | November 14, 2007 at 01:36 PM
No surprise here. The Cubs would have just been filling in one hole and opening up another one. In addition, the 'CF hole' may not end up being a problem at all with Felix Pie. He won't be as good as Crawford, but decent enough to not trade one of the best No. 3 starters in the league.
I hadn't heard the Brewers part, but there's no way the Cubs would go out of their way to do anything that might make the Brewers better. We are in the driver's seat. The Brewers have HUGE bullpen problems to solve. They will be the 2007 Reds if they don't sign/trade for 3 or 4 good SP or RP arms. Good luck catching the Cubs Central foes!
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | November 14, 2007 at 01:39 PM
The three-way deal was between the Rays, Brewers and Yankees. The Cubs weren't involved in that rumor.
Posted by: Cynic81 | November 14, 2007 at 02:31 PM
To fill the void created by Rich Hill leaving is much easier than acquiring talent like Carl Crawford.
Posted by: bjsguess | November 14, 2007 at 02:38 PM
"but decent enough to not trade one of the best No. 3 starters in the league."
and you've solved the riddle to the puzzle for cubs fans! its gonna take more than "one of the best no. 3 starters in the league" for someone of crawfords ability. who knows how good hill would be in the AL East. i mean he did pitch in the worst division in baseball.
Posted by: trober81 | November 14, 2007 at 02:46 PM
Oh really BJSguess, please tell me the number of quality left handed starters on the free agent market versus CFs like Andruw Jones, Torii Hunter, and Aaron Rowand.
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | November 14, 2007 at 02:46 PM
and another thing, i dont get why everyone has such a huge man-crush on hill. hes not that young, he'll be 28 next season. granted hes coming into his prime, but a 28 year old number 3 starter doesnt get me all worked up, theres one on the south side of chicago too, jon garland, who doesnt create such a love-fest. i guess that must be because of his contract status.
Posted by: trober81 | November 14, 2007 at 02:53 PM
lol, acting like Hill, Patterson and a prospect is too much to give up? I don't think the Cubs have enough to get Crawford.
And for losing Hill, who cares? they have the exact same pitcher in Marshall, who is younger. Granted he has less experience, but it's not like Hill is the next Johan Santana or anything like that.
Posted by: rype123 | November 14, 2007 at 04:32 PM
perfectly said Trober...
So sick of the Hill, Murton & Marshall talks from Cubs fans as if they are something really that special anyway. Most teams have a similar player to Hill, a couple of Marshalls buried in their system and countless Murtons; but those three will apparently bring the north-side Willie Mays and Bob Feller…
As far as Crawford ~ well, was it ever really a possibility anyway? Seems the posters here already proved it wouldn’t happen…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | November 14, 2007 at 04:32 PM
I think the Cubs are better off not making this move. Even though i agree Crawford is far superior from any player that would be included in these talks, the deal would cost the Cubs too much. Would the Cubs rather have Fukudome, Hill and those prospects, or just Crawford? Just think they are better off looking at free agency.
Plus Pie is gonna have to get a chance soon anyways, because he's starting to get to that point where i feel like if he doesn't produce for the Cubs soon then he might not ever. They should either hand him center field and commit to him, or include him in a deal for a shortstop/outfielder.
Also, what does anybody here think about the Cubs going after Carlos Quentin? The guy has great tools but just never put it together for the D-Backs. He's really the odd man out in that outfield, and if the Cubs were to offer them a good young pitcher i think they would bite. I don't think it would take Hill. Maybe Sean Marshall and Sam Fuld for Quentin?
Posted by: scribbletone | November 14, 2007 at 06:36 PM
or maybe include Hill in the deal and try to get both Valverde and Quentin. Valverde and Marmol at the back of that bullpen would be dominant in the NL
Posted by: scribbletone | November 14, 2007 at 06:38 PM
"And for losing Hill, who cares? they have the exact same pitcher in Marshall"
Have you watched the two of them pitch. Yes they are both lefties, and they had he same ERA last season, but Hill had a better record and over 100 more strike outs. Marshall may be younger, but Hill is still a much better pitcher right now. The Cubs aren't a rebuilding franchise. So Hill being so much better than Marshall right now makes him a lot more valuable.
They are simply not the same caliber of pitcher.
Posted by: Cynic81 | November 14, 2007 at 10:07 PM