Crasnick's Latest: Encarnacion, Hamilton, Jenkins

His eye socket got obliterated. A comeback will be nearly impossible.

I think that Edwin is far more valuable than Lowry. If Lowry's peripherals catch up to him he will be a piss poor pitcher. Edwin still has a lot of hitting potential. And Lowry going from the NL West parks and pitching 1/2 his games in the Giants park to going to Great American...ouch. I think that The Reds will go after someone better than Lowry but less than the Linecums and Bedards of the world. Perhaps a Scott Hatteberg for Edwin Jackson type swap? The Rays supposedly need a good lefty hitting 1B/DH/clubhouse/cheap guy and Hatty fits the bill. Maybe a prospect goes to CIN as well, Jackson could fill out the rotation and hopefully reach some of his potential.

There is no way Hill will be traded in the division...especially for a guy the cubs gave up for a couple hundred grand. I know it was already set up and blah blah...but Hendry is NOT going to give up Hill for Hamilton. What about Marshall and Gallegher? That way they have two guys to fall back on? I don't know...just a thought...but thats probably not enough. They can have Cedeno or Murton too...? Hell...take them all.

If you are going to knock Lowry for pitching in a pitcher's park, than you must knock Edwin for hitting in a hitter's park.

Although the talk of the town this off-season seems to be prospects, it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Giants to give up a proven LHP in Lowry, who is a proven winner in the MLB, for a young 3B who has a troubled past and has failed to play an entire season at the big league level.

Lowry is more valuable

Your argument hurts it more than it helps, Juice.

Encarnacion and Lowry's career home/road splits:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=encared01&year=2007
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=lowryno01&year=00

Lowry has given up more earned runs in about 90 less innings in his career on the road than at home. His ERA at home is 3.42 while his road ERA is 4.85 which would get worse if he went to American Great for most of his games. Encarnacion on the other hand has hit 30 points higher on the road and his OPS is .799 on the road and .790 at home.

Encarnacion is more valuable

Have a look at Edwin's final 2 months, he was excellent and really looked to turn the corner.

He was awful in July, but after he got rolling, he was an above average option at third base.

He gets on base, doesn't strike out all that much, and has some pop in his bat.

If the Reds were foolish enough to accept only Lowry for him, it would be a steal for SF and their rebuilding efforts.

Is there a reason why you used encarnacion's 2007 stats and lowry's career stats?

Way to manipulate the numbers to make your point.

Over Encarnacions CAREER he has hit 19 points higher at home and his OPS is 81 points higher at home, which tends to disprove your point. Nice try.

What about

Dontrelle Willis

for

Hamilton
Encarncion
pitching prospect not named Homer Bailey?

Then the Marlins go back to the Dodgers and ask for Kemp,Billingsley/Kerhsaw, and Loney for Miguel! It's a win win in both trades for them.

^^^

uhh... no. Willis isn't worth Hamilton alone.

The Reds would trade Hamilton in a heart beat straight up for Willis. Hamilton has been in the majors how many years and actually put up numbers?

From MLB.COM

Chicago Cubs
Selected OF Josh Hamilton from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays; Traded OF Josh Hamilton to the Cincinnati Reds in exchange for cash considerations;

And whats the Rule 4 Draft?

There is no way, I repeat, no way that the Reds will trade Hamilton within the division. If he plays, and there are plenty of ifs, he has the talent to be one of the best in the game. He's an absolute joy to watch play. If he's traded, it has to be for a lights out starter and would need to be West Coast or AL.

EE is a solid player, who hasn't played his best ball yet. As a Reds fan, I just don't like the lack of fire. That and the hundred dollar stops and 10 cent throws. He's on the verge.

Why not convince overrated Adam Dunn to waive the trade clause. I think SF needs another overweight power hitting left fielder who can't play defense. At least you know Dunn's not on the juice. He just drank alot of it.

Go Krivsky.

Would Lowry be your 5th starter? Seems to me like Lowry had better numbers than arroyo, belisle, and the endless stream of garbage pitchers with 6.00+ ERAs you were sending out there every 5th night. I agree I value Encarnacion more than Lowry, but that does not make him a 5th starter, especially on the Reds.

He would be worse than Cueto and Bailey I'm guessing. He's only pitched 150 innings each of the past two seasons. Someone with a WHIP of over 1.5 in such a weak division would probably be a 5th starter in the park the Reds have. He's just not that good and no smart GM would give much for him.

Lots of people call leaving Josh Hamilton off the 40 man a mistake on the Rays part.

I'm sure that the Rays and Cubs thought Hamilton was a talented athlete. But he also hadn't played in 03, 04, or 05 because he was either hurt or abusing drugs. When he did return in 2006, he put up a 260/327/360 line in LoA.
Add to this 2 bad knees...
How were the Cubs supposed to know to keep this guy on the 25 man roster all year?

Dunn has one skill, hitting tape measure homeruns....with no one on base. People who think he's so great always point to OBP, but that's been declining steadily. He doesn't play ANY defense in left, and won't work hard enough to move to 1st base and has no speed. For a college quarterback, his arm stinks. How come a guy with 40+ homers annually can't hit cleanup? Career best 106 rbi's? A joke. He should have 120-130.

I call him Adam Kingman. Hopefully the Reds don't sign him longterm. With Votto, Bruce and Hamilton they have enough lefties for awhile.

He may not be overrated nationally, but he sure is by Red's fans.

What do you mean? His OBP is as high as ever, getting on-base 38-39% of the time. It isn't his fault the Reds are so bad...and besides, he's got a good OPS with RISP. He walks a lot with RISP but that's how he does. He's very valuable offensively.

still dont know if i would consider that troubled.....Josh Hamilton= Troubled Past...Encarnacion's Lack of Hustle= Half of the MLB lol

Great stats on Dunn, should've double checked before I opened my mouth. I still can't stand him though.

On his behalf, he did do a much better job of hitting the ball the other way towards the end of last year and actually had some rbi base hits.

He's just never shown any inclination to working hard enough to be an upper echelon player. With his lack of speed and range, he should be at first. He half assed it one spring training and quit.

He's content to be a one dimensional guy and pick up his emmense check. If pitching and defense wins championships, he doesn't really help you.