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Jamey Carroll Traded To Indians

UPDATE, 12-7-07 at 8:19pm: Troy E. Renck says this deal is done, and right now it's for a player to be named later.  Dan O'Dowd said he wasn't eating any of the $2.15MM owed to Carroll, so that's some pocket change to put toward a free agent reliever.  Yes, I just referred to two million dollars as pocket change.

FROM 12-7-07 at 9:46am:

Tracy Ringolsby of the Rocky Mountain News says the Rockies are set to trade utility infielder Jamey Carroll to the Indians.  It was to be for minor league starter Sean Smith, but that part has changed.  The teams will talk today and figure out the return.  The Rockies will save a few million bucks by moving Carroll.  The Rox previously offered Carroll to the Indians for Josh Barfield, by the way.

As for their second base vacancy, Tadahito Iguchi and David Eckstein remain on the radar.  There are complications with both.

Iguchi is said to want three years, but could settle for two.  He likes the idea of playing second base, and the Rox are the current suitor offering that (though the Orioles could enter the picture).  However Iguchi's agent told Ringolsby that replacing countryman Kaz Matsui concerns Iguchi.

As for Eckstein, he's said to want four years.  I could see him settling for three, but two would be a pretty big concession.


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OK. Just out of curiosity...why would Iguchi be concerned about replacing Matsui, a fellow countryman? It's not like he is depriving Matsui of a job, since he has already signed with the Astros.

Carroll will probably compete with Josh Barfield and Andy Marte for the utility role. Those are some good utility options.

Theres a chance The marlins that might aqcuire either Barfeild or Marte

Oooh - A Jamey Carroll rumor! Be still, my heart.

Somebody needs to take a flyer on Barfield. He is way too good to suck for much longer. I would have loved for him to be the second baseman over Castillo, who I like, but cant really walk anymore. Its sad to watch. The guy has the body of like a 65 year old man.

My guess is that Barfield will begin the season in AAA.

Nah, the Indians have been looking for a True Utility Infielder for a long time now. They have only been able to find someone to play SS or 2B, but usually not both ~ and when they have actually found someone who can do both, he cant hit better than a 5YO…

Marte is as good as gone. He is out of options so he cant be sent to the minors. He will be traded, more than likely with Cliff Lee or someone in a package. The Indians wont wave him for fear of another Brandon Phillips situation, so if he isn’t dealt then he will rid the bench until a team is in dire need for someone for 3B.

Barfield cant play SS from my understanding ~ he just hasn’t spent any time there so he is kinda lost ATM. I would assume he spends most of 2008 in AAA learning that position and working on his hitting. Well, that’s if he inst dealt atleast, which of course could happen. They are probably reluctant to deal him though because of the unknown production from AsCab in his first full season. There is always the possibility they begin moving Peralta to 3B soon as well, this would possibly make Barfield the 2B with Cabrera at SS.

Carroll is a fine utility guy for us I guess, and Smith isn’t much to give up for him if that is what happens. I’m thinking that the two sides might be trying to expand the trade a bit though; the teams have expressed interest in multiple players from eachother…

humm, why does it sometimes post or replies without our names? Typekey has to be the single worst system I have ever seen in my life...

we should have resigned gomez.....

I am a little confused. Shapiro says the Indians are not looking to make a trade. Maybe he is just trying to play it close to the vest, but there has been little trade talk thus far (most of the Bay trade rumors where false).

But when I look at the team, I see 2 more players than positions. We have both Barfield and Cabrera at second. Peralta at short. Marte and Blake at third. Guteriez in right. Delucci and Michaels in left. And now Carroll as the utility guy.

I have heard talk that we will keep Marte on the roster (out of options) even if he is not starting. And that we might have Barfield start the year in AAA. But that seems like it will stunt the development of Marte and make Barfield unhappy.

Doesn't Shapiro need to make decision on Marte and Barfield now? You don't want to wait until one of them is demanding to be traded.

Maybe you could start Marte at third and use Blake as some sort of utility guy (LF, RF, 3B, and 1B). You would need to dump Michaels to make that work, but eh...

But I think that the Barfield situation has to involve a trade. You have three players for two positions. (Maybe you could move Peralta to third, trade Marte and use Blake as a utility guy.)

Look I know there are risks involved here. You could commit to a young player, and he could fail (in a year where are trying to make the playoffs). Or we could trade a kid that goes on to be a star. But is doing nothing really a better option? Is there any chance Marte keeps developing getting little playing time? How can you expect Barfield after two years in the majors to go back to AAA, keep a positive attitude, and play his way back to the bigs?

I know some of the above post have Marte and Barfield on the move. But if they are actively being shopped, then why aren't we hearing more about it?

Any thoughts?

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