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Brandon Phillips Signs Four-Year Deal
According to Hal McCoy of the Dayton Daily News, the Reds have agreed in principle to a long-term deal with second baseman Brandon Phillips. The arbitration hearing is off. The AP says it's a four-year, $27MM contract. There is also a fifth year option that becomes mutual if he's traded.
The deal buys out one year of free agency. Sometimes I have trouble evaluating deals of this nature, I'm not going to lie. The question is, what is the projected amount of savings the Reds are getting here? Chase Utley signed his extension in January of '07. For his fourth through seventh years in the bigs he'll get $38MM, plus a $2MM signing bonus. Robinson Cano will make $39MM for the same slice of his career if his 2012 option is exercised. Viewed that way, the Phillips deal seems solid.
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Cool dude, way to get the inside scoop... I guess with this new job you can be flexible with your sleeping hours.
Posted by: gogopalehose | February 14, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Gosh remember when the reds picked him up off the scrap heap? Who could have imagined he'd turn out this good. I thought they could have gotten another steal in cantu but I guess they saw more in keppinger.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | February 14, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Phillips and then Hamilton off the scrap heap... That's outstanding. And, of course, they have a good farm system and a few great prospects...
Posted by: jrfukudome | February 14, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Ahhhh if only there was a bullpen.
Posted by: ksesxe | February 15, 2008 at 12:33 AM
"Ahhhh if only there was a bullpen."
You would think they could have gotten a couple of decent relievers for Kearns and Lopez.
Bray sucks and Majewski was/is hurt. That was an awful, awful trade.
Posted by: PDubs | February 15, 2008 at 02:01 AM
"You would think they could have gotten a couple of decent relievers for Kearns and Lopez.
Bray sucks and Majewski was/is hurt. That was an awful, awful trade."
You're right that was a terrible trade, Kearns and Lopez are doing great right now.
SIKEEE
Posted by: NorrisHopper30 | February 15, 2008 at 06:45 AM
It's not that Kearns and Lopez are not great now that makes it a bad deal, it's that they had more value.
The Reds could have gotten a LOT more in return if they werent so desperate. Lopez was a power/speed SS, and Kearns had unlimited potential and was/is a great fielder.
You do not trade two almost star type position players for two middle relievers. All these players had plenty of time under the teams control so it wasn't about the money.
Posted by: Mark | February 15, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Bray is not a bad reliever.
Posted by: ianoconnor | February 15, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Make no mistake I'm not saying they have a good bullpen but I think it could be better then what we are thinking.
CP Cordero should be above league average
SU Weathers- very underated
Rp Majewski-if healthy is good
Coffey- bad year but is a much better pitcher reds need to leave him on the big league club all year.
Now they are like three relievers short I'll admit. Stanton is done. They shoul be looking for a situational lefty. Jamie walker from the orioles could be made available since they just picked up sherrill. But on emore hard throwing right hander would do the trick.They should just roll he dice and sign benitez and alfonseca. On minor league deals these guys could end up being bargains.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | February 15, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Yeah, let's just start signing washed up guys who will get rocked from the second they step on a mound. The 7th, 8th, and 9th are settled with Burton, Weathers, and Cordero. And you still have Bray, Majewski, Coutlangus, Coffey, and others. Stanton will be there because of his contract. There's no reason to bring in any washed up vets on minor league deals, it will only stunt the growth of the younger bullpen guys.
Posted by: redleg16 | February 15, 2008 at 02:12 PM
It's a minor league deal anything you get is just iceing. I forgot about burton and Count but reall y you don't have much of a track record. I just sign these guys as insurance. And I have to imagine the reds are kind of in a win now mode with dunn leaving soon and griffey and with the money being spent I don't think there main concern is th growth of middle relivers it's winning right now.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | February 15, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Mark - there were other players included in the Lopez/Kearns trade. Brendan Harris, for one, who is not a bad middle infielder himself - not great, admitedly, but he put up better numbers than Lopez did last year, and I think he's just a late bloomer and will get better this year.
As for Bray and Majewski - Bray is a good reliever, and at the time of the trade was considered a future closer. Majewski IS good, and the Nats thought he was healthy - so did the Reds when they first acquired him.
Which makes me ask, does anyone know if MLB ever handed down a verdict over that whole controversy?
Posted by: bignatsfan | February 15, 2008 at 02:20 PM
I don't think they will ever make a decision on the damaged goods situation. I can't imagine the Nats thought he was perfectly healthy when he was getting cortizone shots in his shoulder prior to the trade.
Bray can be good, he's had some freak injury problems since the trade but at the end of 06, we were talking about possible closer material and letting Weathers go back to set up. If Bray can be healthy he can be a good late innings left handed option.
Posted by: Bank Street Grounds | February 15, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Bray is left-handed. He'll never be a full blown closer in the current baseball world. He's has some very good stuff however. He was the reason Kriv-dog made that trade. Kearns and Lopez were both due for significant salary bumps, and the Reds were still operating on a Pirates-esque budget. It wasn't a good deal, but the jury is still out on it being an awful deal.
Posted by: Tommy | February 15, 2008 at 08:55 PM
What makes you think a lefty can't close? I think BJ Ryan would argue with you on that score.
Bray was hurt most of last year and hasn't really shown what he can do. With he, Weathers, and Burton setting up Cordero, that's pretty solid.
Majewski didn't miss many bats when he was healthy for the Nats, so I think his value is debatable even if he is 100%.
I'd still take them both over Kearns and Lopez and they got a starter out of the deal the Reds are pretty high on in 3A.
I really don't know where so much of the Krivsky critcism comes from. I love the guy, and this signing just confirms it.
Phillips, Bruce and Votto are the core of this team for years to come.
Posted by: bweav44 | February 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM