Bogus Crisp To Mets Rumor

lol, for what??

not a terrible idea for the Mets, given Alou and Beltran's track record for missing games, but I can't imagine the Mets would give up anywhere near as much as some other teams that could really use Crisp in center field.

Isn't Angel Pagan with the Cubs?

no, pagan is a met

if your right tim, i wonder how that would make him feel. he would definitely get more playing time with the mets, but if alou returns, he will be a utility guy still and his playing time will get cut alot. he has to be really mad at his situation right now, frankly i dont blame him, it certainly sucks to be crisp right now...

I for one cannot fathom the point of a Crisp for Pagan trade from either team's perspective. There has to be someone else getting talked about here.

I just don't see the difference between the two. As a Mets fan, I'd rather give Pagan a chance in that role before making a move for Coco Crisp and paying close to 5 million a year for essentially the same guy.

I agree with AdropOFvenom. Just doesn't seem to make much sense for the Mets. Even if you want to say Crisp as the track record, Endy Chavez is virtually the same player with a better throwing arm. On a team without a Carlos Beltran, Endy would have as good a shot being a starting CF as Crisp would, he just never had the big year Crisp had a few years ago. But when you look at career averages and tendancies, they have the exact same skillset.

Cui Bono? (who benefits) im so confused...

I do wonder if this is a case of Omar Minaya looking to making moves to acquire pieces for other trades, as I can see where a Coco Crisp would be an interesting piece for the Pirates, for example, in a potential Xavier Nady deal.

If they dealt Pagan for Crisp, and then dealt Crisp and someone else for Nady, then Minaya would end up looking like a genius IMO.

Why don't the Mets pursue Andre Ethier who is blocked by Juan Pierre in LA????

maybe the dont want to trade inside the league pkkarate, thats not unusual

I don't feel bad for Coco Crisp in any way whatsoever. The dude is still set to make close to $10M over the next two years. If anything, he should feel bad for me, sitting at my desk hammering away at Excel all day.

I also agree that getting Nady back would be the best move.

touche mmontice

i agree andy, i dont really want this as much as everyone else.

the sox won't trade coco unless they get pitching in return, fat chance this happens

I honestly don't understand why the Cubs ever traded Pagan to the Mets in the first place. He did have the unfortunate bout with colitis last year, but when healthy he always played well for them. Great defense at any of the 3 OF spots, excellent speed, switch hitter, and a little pop in his bat to boot. Now here they are looking for another OF bat who can play CF when they got rid of Pagan for a couple of no-name prospects.

This was just on Newsday.com

Not really. A Mets official chuckled and said no when asked if the team had traded for Red Sox outfielder Coco Crisp, as had been rumored. The Mets need an outfielder, but they want to see what they have in spring sensation Angel Pagan and whether Endy Chavez is healthy enough to play against righties in Moises Alou's absence. They entered spring training needed a righthanded bat in the outfielder, and they still do. But they expect Alou to be back at some point.

Lou did not like Pagan plain and simple. The reason is because Pagan does not always have his head in the game. He does make bone head mistakes sometimes, which is sad. He can play all OF spots, has some speed, some pop and can go get 'em. I liked him as a back up player. I forget the game last year but he made a base running error and Lou lit him a new...I should watch the jokes with his situation. I knew he was not on Lou's good list.

Horacio Ramirez got released.

“I am curious to know why Crisp is sitting, but maybe its his day off.”

…Coco has been fighting hamstring tightness this pre-season. Coupled with a Dentist visit, he really hasn’t played at all yet. The hammy isnt supposed to be a real problem, but it couldn’t have come at a worst time for him…

Yeah, Coolpapabell, when Lou got suspended last year for the umpire inccident, it was a close play at 3rd and Pagan was the runner. That is not the time when Lou went off on Angel though. A few games later he made a bone head running play and after Lou lit into him. You did'nt see him much after that one game. Then his medical issues followed. Anyway, the Crisp rumor with Pagan made no sense to me before it was bogus.

Fun fact...

Over the last two seasons, 2006 through 2007, 122 hitters whose primary position is outfield have played in at least 140 major league games in total over those last two seasons. Crisp and Pagan are tied for 100th of the 122 in that group in OPS+ over 2006-2007, both with an OPS+ of 81.