MLB Rumors - MLB Trade Rumors
Subscribe to MLB Trade Rumors using RSS
Home     Contact     About     Advertise     Archives     Widget     Twitter      RSS Usage

« Yankees Interested In Harden? | Main | No Crede Trade Imminent »

Bonds Vows Not To Retire

Curious why Barry Bonds, he of the .480 OBP and undeniable baggage, doesn't have a job yet?  So is the Players Association; Donald Fehr and Co. will examine whether there has been collusion against Bonds this winter.  It's just part of an annual free agent market review by the union, so this isn't a huge deal.

It's tough to analyze Bonds' situation without inside information.  Perhaps certain clubs did look into signing him, but found his price prohibitive.  Other teams may be focused on bringing in good clubhouse guys.  Others may not have DH or left field vacancies. 

Bonds' agent says he could be ready in two weeks; he vowed directly to MLB.com that he will not retire.  It's not like Opening Day is some magical date after which Bonds cannot sign.  Injuries happen, teams get desperate, and maybe Bonds will drop his price under $5MM.  He mentioned on the MLB.com phone call that he'll come back in July if necessary.


Full Story |  Comments (27) | Categories: Barry Bonds

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d834515b9a69e200e551334bc78833

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Bonds Vows Not To Retire:

Comments

I'd sign him as a LOOGY for the Braves.

What a crock of BS. The Union is the reason why baseball is in the spot it is now as far as Steroids and PED's are concerned because of their refusal to institute drug testing. So, players get away with cheating and increasing their numbers and increasing their pay.

Then, once the poster boy is indicted for lying about what he has gotten away with (with the Unions blessing) and NOBODY wants him and his baggage, the Union decides to investigate.

This probably means the Union is going to file some type of suit and Bonds will get a ML contract for big bucks and those players who were either caught or who ahve admitted to cheating, will get off with NO punishment.

What an excellent example to give to the youth of the country. You can lie and cheat and steal money (that is what the players were doing when they chemically enhanced themselves so as to inflate their numbers. If this happened in business, with a person or people caught using accounting tricks to inflate the numbers and enhance the business, they would be caught, convicted, fined and sentenced to jail).

Oh, but not Major League baseball players....

collusion? give me a break. maybe we should also look into why best buy and circuit city charge the exact same prices for everything. after that we can look into why gas costs the same at every station. despite what some think, all gas stations do not pay the same for gas. in missouri the market is controlled by quiktrip. collusion is real and there is nothing anyone can do about it. its almost impossible to prove.

i agree with u very much ctown. people say why do all these players do steroids. lets see im gary matthews, i am about to be a free agent, and the difference in money is at least 30 mil. look for 10 mil ill shoot someone in the face. for 20 mil ill kill a cousin. all these guys did was drugs. jesus ive done tons of drugs and nobody ever paid me for it. i had to pay for them. the system is the problem, not the player.

Any sort of collusion accusation can be easily countered by all the owners saying, "Sorry ... we just don't want to sign someone who's under federal indictment." That's there prerogative. As Tim said, I don't think there's much to this.

Bottom line, Barry ... you made your big, juiced-up bed and now you must slumber juicily in it. Sucks to be you.

"Their" prerogative. Good thing I don't work as an editor or anything. Oh, wait ...

If I was a fan of a team that had a spot for him and my GM wouldn't sign him, I'd be ticked. There are plenty of lying steroid users on major league rosters now, probly guys some of you above posters root for. The guy is still a very productive baseball player, one day an owner is gonna get his head out of the sand and realize he's already got three guys in the Mitchell report on his roster, so what's the difference?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Bonds wasn't in the Players Union? Isn't that why he's not in any baseball video games?

Whats wrong with collusion ???

Thats the backbone of any good free market system. To say it doesn't exist is just hogwash for those stupid enough to believe it.

Bonds being out of work is the product of a good free market system, and hopefully it will continue to work and he'll retire and finally just stop being a nuisance.

I honestly don't think it's the steroid stigma... teams have shown they'll work with PED guys. It's the ego, the press baggage, the injury risk, and the fact that most teams have a DH and/or LF who 's either payed too much to bench, and/or good enough that Bonds isn't a big enough upgrade. Add in the possible money issue, and it's just not a good year to be the guy with that resume.

Whats wrong with collusion ???

Thats the backbone of any good free market system. To say it doesn't exist is just hogwash for those stupid enough to believe it.

What? Collusion is against every principle of a free market system. It creates barriers to entry and eliminates competition. In a free market, Bonds would be employed because at his price he generates the most wins per dollar. Instead, other left fielders/DHs are being paid more for worse production.

Yes, I thik Bonds is out of the Union now but he was in it when baseball was trying to implement the Steroids testing and the Union fought it.

Also, if he IS out of the Union, then WHY are they looking into a collusion issue? Wouldn't he be considered some type of SCAB? Wouldn't Union players be upset that a non-Union guy was getting time used on him instead of them?

Rossm,

thanks for proving my point.

Just lap it up and pretend you understand =)

Bonds is in the players union, he is not in the blanket licencing agreement of the union, so he doesn't get any licence fees from the MLBPA.

Additionally, if he meant the difference between my team going to the playoffs or going home, sign him. He's used illegal drugs and it's very likely he lied under oath. This in a business that accepts others who have failed drug tests, drive drunk and beat their wives. I'll take a guy who hasn't failed a test and one who doesn't risk the lives of others over one who does. If you're going to be holier then thou, be consistant at least.

Deelron, I completely agree. However, I think he isn't signed because of his impending trial. Drugs or not, he should still be in Seattle. How is JOSE VIDRO keeping BARRY BONDS unemployed?

Max, his trial really shouldn't be an issue. A trial wouldn't be likely to start until after the season, and even if it were otherwise it's not difficult to work into contract language, nor is it unheard of (it didn't seem to kill Kobe Bryant's value as a player). Worst case is any team that would have him would have to bring up someone to replace him should a trial come at breakneck speed. Is starting the season with the 25th man on the roster really worth any of the results of Bonds?

As for the M's, dang straight! He's such an obvious fit, but as a newly minted Sound resident, the support for the team despite real results is just so utterly baffling that it really doesn't matter what they do, ponies notwithstanding.

Ok, I don't think a crappy fielding left fielder or DH are all THAT hard to find.

Send him to the D-backs...could definitely see him there for one year - gives them the offense they need...Bonds gets his 3000th...everyone's happy

its sad to see barry bonds mess up his career by using steroids.

without steroids i dont see him hitting that 70+ homers, but could have hit 40-50.

even though he is old he could still hit 30+, its his own damn fault he is outta a job.

Ok, I don't think a crappy fielding left fielder or DH are all THAT hard to find.

Posted by: V | March 18, 2008 at 11:48 PM

c'mon man, even though we all know barry bonds fawked up his career,
he could be what some teams need to win a ws

example= mariners

It is not so much Bonds, but the effect his entourage and media circus he will inevitably bring. There are so many possibly reasons why Bonds hasn't found a home yet and collusion is way down the list.

Can you imagine the production you would get from a Bonds/Alou platoon? Especially since it would keep them both relatively healthy.

Scary...

First the MLB union should shut up, Bons goes into retirement a multimillionaire. Just because Bonds want to play doesnt mean a MLB team has to sign him. Take a look at Raffy Palmeiro his OBA was not as good as Bonds when Raffy had his last season but the rest of the #s are pretty close. BTW Raffy was 2 years younger and healthier.
Based on 162 games
Raffy 27/88/.266
Bonds 32/95/.270
Raffy was forced into retirement cause of positive roid test.
Next look at who might sign Bonds--
Eliminate the NL cause of no DH and no team will carry a 4th OF at his price
Eliminate the small market teams as they will not spend the $$ on players.
Eliminate teams like Boston and NY as they have established DH/LF. So that leaves a handfull of teams that might have a use for him. MLB union look at the whole picture there is not a call for a high injury risk,40+ ,prima donna,steroid using players

There are a lot of reasons for Bonds not being signed yet. Without opening up the Pandora’s boxes of greed & pride two reasons off the top of my head are :

1) If you can only have his bat for 100-120 games do you want those games at the front end or the back end of the season? I would say I want them at the back end.

2) Why would Bonds want to sign now with a team on the fringes of the hunt when by waiting a couple months we can reduce the chances of playing on a pretender?

All and all collusion seems the least likely reason a this point.

The union should be including him as part of their annual free agency review, it's routine. That's what unions do anyway, look after their membership. If they're not looking, they're not doing their jobs.
Additionally, players arn't being forced out because of positive steroid tests (just look at those who have been signed, how is Mike Cameron these days?). They're being forced out from the percieved public reaction from signing them.
Just to look at who will sign could sign Bonds via ryno's list:
- He wasn't the worst LF last year, and there's nothing to say he'd be the worst this year as well. He certainly isn't good, but at the a higher or similar price teams have players such as Juan Pierre.
- Small market teams arn't afraid of spending $5 mil for a year. Hell the Royals signed Jose Guillen for 3 yr/36 mil. Wait, didn't he fail a Drug test?
- Oh and he's a prima donna. It's pretty rare to see one who isn't one way or another.
Finally for Dave, if you could only have his bat for 100-120 games ideally you would want for him to be on the backend of the season, but wins are wins, and you're trying to make the playoffs, they all count. If your team ends up being a pretender, you have a sunk cost of a one year contract. If it were my team that was on the cusp, I'd rather they spend the ~5 mil for one year and fail rather then trading the future (a la Jones for Bedard) then not. If management truely believes they are serious playoff contenders, then spending the 5 mil to make it much more likely seems like an easy baseball decision particularly when making the playoffs will bring in that much more.
All that being said, the most likely reason is my book is that it's much easier for a GM not to make a move then to make one, and most GMs where he'd fit either don't have the clout or the guts to weather the likely short term backlash.

If I'm a team with a demonstrable need for a Bonds-like player (the M's), I sign him and quick. He's a game-changer, adds a bunch of wins, and you can rest him if you need to.

I suspect the issue is price, productivity, and the impact on the fan base. Any contending team with a garbage DH/LF should be giving him a look, and I think one will eventually sign him. (FWIW, I own him in both of my fantasy leagues.)

I absolutely LOVE that Bonds is on the outside looking in.

He's a poor left fielder carrying more baggage than any player in ML history, and he's a lousy teammate to boot.

The Players Union should spend their time investigating what makes a player's shoe size and head grow so much after age 30.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment


Top Stories



Search MLBTR

Lijit Search

MLBTR Features



Recent Posts


MLBTR Mailing List

Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner


Rumors By Team



Monthly Archives


Live Chats


Tuesdays at 2 p.m. CST



Site Map     Contact     About     Advertise     Privacy Policy     Widget     Twitter     Rss Feed


MLB Trade Rumors is not affiliated with Major League Baseball, MLB or MLB.com.