Available Relievers

Tigers definitely need to do something quick. They have quite possibly the worst bullpen I've ever seen. And this is coming from a White Sox fan who had to endure the craptastic pen in '07.

Its doubtful that the Rangers willbe moving Benoit any time soon unless Wilson nails the closer role. The Tigers and the Phillies really dont match up well with Texas and Seatle is in the division, so i dont expect any of those teams as a likely partner.

Right now the Jays bullpen is Accardo Downs Wolfe Tallet Frasor League Wells. When Ryan comes back (soon), somebody is going to have to be optioned down, and it's not likely to be Wells because then the Jays would lose him. That leaves League the most likely to be sent down. The Jays also have Benitez who is looking good in spring and has always been able to get righties out. With David Purcey near ML ready (especially as a reliever) I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jays trade from their bullpen depth. Just don't want to strengthen the Tigers, another WC contender. SS or 3B prospects needed in return.

Marquis or Lieber + Marshall or Gallagher +...Hart if need by for Renteria.

Cubs could afford the hit...and we could use a upgrade at SS.

I could see Chad Qualls as an option, too. Arizona has a glut of good relievers -- Pena, Lyon, Cruz, Qualls. Qualls seems like the most obvious candidate to be moved into a closer role -- D-backs keep Lyon/Pena for 8/9 and Cruz doesn't seem like closer material.

But what would Detroit give up? They already sold their farm system to Florida. Take the Washington angle, either Rauch or Ayala. The Nats don't need an overpaid under hitting Utility player (Inge), they need starting pitching. Is Detroit going to be desperate enough to Porcello?

I doubt they would trade Renteria, but that would be huge. I guarentee he offers more of an upgrade than Roberts would...at least thats my opinion.

"Marquis or Lieber + Marshall or Gallagher +...Hart if need by for Renteria"

So let me get this straight: You think the Tigers are ready to dump Renteria for Lieber (Marquis is just dumb)and Gallagher ?

So that would mean they traded a great pitching prospect in Jurjens and a CF on the top 100prospect list in Hernandez to Atlanta, not for an all star SS, but rather for a mediocre pitcher and a 40 year old reliever?

Detroits desperate not stupid. Why would you assume they would accept less then what they gave up ?

Only Cubs fans !

At least be more realistic and say it would take Marmol, Murton and Wuertz for Renteria.

Porcello's not moving, that's for sure. I'm not even sure when he's allowed to be traded...what's the time period that teams must wait to trade guys they drafted in the previous year? But nonetheless, I'm a Nats fan and I don't even consider Porcello wishful thinking...I consider him "well maybe if the Tigers GM gets kidnapped by Jim Bowden and Bowden passes the trade through"...that's the only way Porcello moves for a reliever.

I could see the Nats being interested guys like Iorg, Hollimon or Worth (noting that Iorg and Worth would be in the same boat with Porcello that I don't think they can deal them at this point). The Nats need immediate MIF help and the Tigers have a handful of decent guys there.

"At least be more realistic and say it would take Marmol, Murton and Wuertz for Renteria."

Oh so the pitching prospect and top 100 CF prospect are worth Marmol (who is one of the top set up man already and could be a closer), and Weurtz (who is better than anyone Detroit has in their bullpen), AND Murton (who is probably better now than the CF prospect will ever be)... yea i guess you right, that would be a fair trade

Get serious, they gave away prospects not Major league proven players... those prospects might never get out of the minors for anything more than a sept. call up

The Tigers shouldn't panic. They should pick up a few scrap heap relievers like Snyder and Benitez and see if they can do better than the lot they have pitching for them right now (seriously, Aquilino Lopez?). Farnsworth is possible, but I'm not sure the Yankees deal to the Tigers, and the Yankees' pen isn't exactly deep either.

Brandon League isn't going anywhere, least of all to the Tigers. His value is too low right now. Besides, the Blue Jays don't have any obvious holes on their roster right now. Maybe later in the season if they need to fill a need, they can dangle Brandon League.

"At least be more realistic and say it would take Marmol, Murton and Wuertz for Renteria."

Key Word here is realistic.

Not ridiculous, or fair. Realistic. As in what's more realistic:

The Tigers trade an all star SS for a utility outfielder who is not on the active roster and may soon be DFA. As well as a stud reliever and a very good reliever, thereby filling 3 big holes.

Or,

The Tigers trade an all star SS for a 40 year old reliever with injury problems and a possible #3 prospect who doesn't help them with their immediate need of adding quality arms to the bullpen. K Hart is nice, but is not a vast improvement over what they already have.

So, whats more realistic ?

You know, reading your own assumptions into other people's words makes you look silly, not them.

I think a realistic offer for Renteria that they would have to think about would be

One of

Theriot
Cedeno
Patterson

One of
Gallagher
Howry

And Wuertz for sure

The Cubs wouldn't give up Marmol...unless it was straight up. Even then, I'm not sure you give up 4.5 years of a young K-Rod...

The Tigers probably turn that deal down, and talks end. Just my two cents

It was on person's suggestion and his trade proposal was not realistic, but neither are any of the other ones who claim to be more realistic. Marmol is not going anywhere and neither is Rentaria. Tigers need bullpen help and don't have many chips to bargain with, and Cubs aren't trading any bullpen guys for something they don't need. Tigers and Cubs just aren't a good match for a trade.